casualobserver:


The annoying thing is these people mostly are unskilled and have a bad attitude and poor work ethic. You would think that common sense would tell them that the best way to get a salary increase is to work so hard to get noticed and make themselves indispensable.

Very annoying. It's because it's very convenient to be lazy.
I don't rate any public servant, including their counterparts, the political office holders.

SanctifiedSista:
Great news

Oya. Put on the light abeg

Thank God tomorrow is midweek service, let.me go and thank God

have you had sex lately

DeOTR:

Very annoying. It's because it's very convenient to be lazy.
I don't rate any public servant, including their counterparts, the political office holders.

The bold sums it up

Agree on all counts.

When I first got to england despite being a graduate, I had 2 full time minimum wage jobs as a security guard and at macdonalds. After finishing 12 hours of standing, I will go and do macdonalds where there is not a second of rest. I did what I had to do to improve myself. In Nigeria, you are a minimum wage worker you earn 30k or less and you have time to go to church for overnight vigil and revival?

We are not serious

casualobserver:


I didn’t read all you wrote but let me tell you a basic principle in emplotlyer employee relations. If you feel your employer is exploiting you, you are free to quit and find another job. It is not slavery, it is not forced Labour. You likely can only get what you get because that is what your productivity and skill set (or lack there of) is worth in the open market.


Like I said you are free to quit. You have a sense of entitlement. Nobody owes you a job or 3 square meals, you earn it by the value of your work. If 30k is all anyone is prepared to pay you, then get a second job. Or go and work for your father’s company where you can be idle all day and get a salary that is comfortable.

I have repeated this many times: the reason why most employers are only willing to pay minimum wage workers so little is 1) they are unproductive…you need 3,4,5 to do the job of 1 person so the salary that should go to 1 person is shared amongst them. As a Nigerian business you are competing with imports from other countries with productive workers not workers who spend their day singing and playing praise songs. In the end the customer does not care whether The employer paid you and the 3 other unproductive workers he has to employ N100k each for every 1 worker his competitor abroad does. He is only interested in the price of the product.

You reply me without reading because you want to live in denial of the truth.

I haven't announced to you that I work under anyone so why calling me entitled ?

And it's not a matter of being entitled,but the consciousness to know that your employee is an extension of yourself and so deserve better. You sound like a very selfish and self centered individual who cares only about himself.
I'm different.

In the business I do,I can't bring myself to employ anyone if I know what I will offer won't be enough for him to take care of himself.

That's how I operate and I know so many others who do. Everyone is not the same . You can do what you like an employ just anyone to work for you, that's if you even have a business that you operate..

DeOTR:

Ask most of them if they can pay their cleaners at least 150k as they want the minimum wage to be, it'll be another story.
I've learned one thing in life: the best way to get a pay raise is to change your job. No profit oriented organization will wake up one morning and decide to double your salary.

You're as ignorant as the person you replied.

We have employers of labour who use their workers to make excessive profits and still pay them less. Is that not true?

For instance, there are teachers in private schools in Nigeria teaching more than two or three subjects, which is not supposed to be,yet they're are paid peanuts despite the large students population and exorbitant school fees that they charge.

Yes, that's happening with nobody to check them.

Both of you are quick to judge others because you're very shallow in your thinking..

casualobserver:


The bold sums it up

Agree on all counts.

When I first got to england despite being a graduate, I had 2 full time minimum wage jobs as a security guard and at macdonalds. After finishing 12 hours of standing, I will go and do macdonalds where there is not a second of rest. I did what I had to do to improve myself. In Nigeria, you are a minimum wage worker you earn 30k or less and you have time to go to church for overnight vigil and revival?

We are not serious

Not everyone who earns 30k in Nigeria will not improve himself. You're generalising and it's very stupid to do so.

So many in Nigeria have moved from that position by attending part time school.

You far from reality and don't know what's happening around you.

triplechoice:


Not everyone who earns 30k in Nigeria will not improve himself. You're generalising and it's very stupid to do so.

So many in Nigeria have moved from that position by attending part time school.

You far from reality and don't know what's happening around you.

The figures do not lie and the evidence says otherwise. The GDP per capita of the average Nigerian worker is N150k a month. An avearahe worker is a graduate with a few years experience according to civil service salary scale. It means that a minimum wage worker likely only contribute economic Labour or work to the value of the 30k he earns.

It is across board. From the refinery worker collecting salaries for over a decade but has not refined a single barrel of oil to the typical Nigerian professor in a government university earns 250-400k. Ask that professor how many research papers he has produced that are cited by his international peers? Then you start to understand why he is paid so portly. If he was actually worth the title professor he wouldnt be working for a federal university.

Argue with yourself but the figures do not lie. That’s the beauty of stats and measuring things, it removes the emotions and brings the realities home.

casualobserver:


The figures do not lie and the evidence says otherwise. The GDP per capita of the average Nigerian worker is N150k a month. An avearahe worker is a graduate with a few years experience according to civil service salary scale. It means that a minimum wage worker likely only contribute economic Labour or work to the value of the 30k he earns.

Argue with yourself but the figures do not lie. That’s the beauty of stats and measuring things, it removes the emotions and brings the realities home.

The above has not nothing to do with my previous reply. You're talking to yourself and no longer coherent. The evidence is there in your reply.

Read it again.

triplechoice:


The above has not nothing to do with my previous reply. You're talking to yourself and no longer coherent. The evidence is there in your reply.

Read it again.

You need to understand English. Average is not minimum.

Look my friend, the bottom line is this: if anyone feels he is worth more than he is being paid he should resign and test his worth with other employers. This is not slave Labour or forced Labour. If you feel you are worth more than you are being paid please please please feel free to leave your “exploitative” employer.

Is it by force you work for someone who is paying you less than you feel you are worth?

Abi kilode? Them force you?

owiko:
Hope the strike suspension was with a clear mind, and not brown envelope induced?

Not brown envelope induced but alert induced.

casualobserver:


You need to understand English. Average is not minimum.

Look my friend, the bottom line is this: if anyone feels he is worth more than he is being paid he should resign and test his worth with other employers. This is not slave Labour or forced Labour. If you feel you are worth more than you are being paid please please please feel free to leave your “exploitative” employer.

Is it by force you work for someone who is paying you less than you feel you are worth?

Abi kilode? Them force you?

If you don't own a business where you employ people to work for you, then shut up because you have no experience to discuss this with me.

Besides I haven't announced that I work under anyone. So keep your unsolicited advice to your selfish and self centered self or maybe your siblings,and stop the very wayward assumptions about my person .

Modified. Are you sure you're alright? Who's confused about average. You said you schooled in the UK, yet you struggle to express yourself very well in English language. And who's saying you can't leave if you feel exploited where' you work?

triplechoice:


If you don't own a business where you employ people to work for you, then shut up because you have no experience to discuss this with me.

Besides I haven't announced that I work under anyone. So keep your unsolicited advice to your selfish and self centered self or maybe your siblings,and stop the very wayward assumptions about my person .

Modified. Are you sure you're alright? Who's confused about average. You said you schooled in the UK, yet you struggle to express yourself very well in English language. And who's saying you can't leave if you feel exploited where' you work?

Like I said, anyone who thinks he is worth more than he is being paid is free to resign and rest his value in the market, there is no fight there.

Many of you will realize how overrated you are. If you were worth more than you currently earn, you would be earning it already. You are where you are because that is what you are worth. If you don’t like that reality check seek to improve your value in the market place.

Good. Night!

N

casualobserver:


Like I said, anyone who thinks he is worth more than he is being paid is free to resign and rest his value in the market, there is no fight there.

Many of you will realize how overrated you are. If you were worth more than you currently earn, you would be earning it already. You are where you are because that is what you are worth. If you don’t like that reality check seek to improve your value in the market place.

Good. Night!

And where did I say you shouldn't resign ? You blind bat that hardly reads what he has been replying to.

If you have no experience of ever employing anyone, then please shut. You're only making sense to your selfish self. That's all.

triplechoice:


You're as ignorant as the person you replied.

We have employers of labour who use their workers to make excessive profits and still pay them less. Is that not true?

For instance, there are teachers in private schools in Nigeria teaching more than two or three subjects, which is not supposed to be,yet they're are paid peanuts despite the large students population and exorbitant school fees that they charge.

Yes, that's happening with nobody to check them.

Both of you are quick to judge others because you're very shallow in your thinking..

So how's this minimum wage increase supposed to force those organizations to pay?
You should ask yourself if they've complied with the current wage before thinking of the new one. Is the labour union even concerned about enforcing the minimum for private organizations to start with?
You probably don't know what you're talking about.

casualobserver:


The bold sums it up

Agree on all counts.

When I first got to england despite being a graduate, I had 2 full time minimum wage jobs as a security guard and at macdonalds. After finishing 12 hours of standing, I will go and do macdonalds where there is not a second of rest. I did what I had to do to improve myself. In Nigeria, you are a minimum wage worker you earn 30k or less and you have time to go to church for overnight vigil and revival?

We are not serious

People would rather pray hoping for miracle on issues they have control over.

Foolish folks both nlc and tuc
na god save una oo

DeOTR:

So how's this minimum wage increase supposed to force those organizations to pay?
You should ask yourself if they've complied with the current wage before thinking of the new one. Is the labour union even concerned about enforcing the minimum for private organizations to start with?
You probably don't know what you're talking about.

People with conscience who also want to hire and retain the best hands will pay.

And I believe you're aware that some private sector employers have already increased the salary of their workers during this period without waiting for government to ask them to. Those ones understand what their workers are going through and have done what is right, but others haven't. See what I mean?

My focus on the minimum wage act is not about the issue of payment but the reason for having the law in the first place which is to protect workers from exploitative employees. Nigerian business owners are very notorious for underpaying their workers.

Yes, if you feel exploited you can resign the job, but how many people know what they are
worth,? Only a few, and business owners are aware of this fact ,hence the exploitation.

Let's discuss the benefits of minimum wage or disadvantage of it before any thing eise.

So tell me why are you against the government fixing minimum wage?

Modified. The responsibility for enforcing minimum wage lies with the government and not labour. Labour are not policemen that enforces the laws of the land.

Employees in the private sector should be aware of what the law says concerning minimum wage and report any one paying shortchanging them.

However, not everyone in the private sector in Nigeria is paid minimum wage. There are not of exemptions there.