DaddyCoool:


This is BLATANTLY FALSE!!!

Someone put up here the salary of political roles in the US, all above $150k per annum.

Please tell how many civil servants in that same USA make $70k per annum?

They are public servants. Their pay should correlate with public service as well.

And if it’s not outrageous for the economy seeing as everything is expensive now, then that means public servants need to be paid better as well.

If the same problem exists in the USA and so what?

Do you think regular Americans are not fighting everyday for better pay and benefits ?

I don’t understand this “logic”

StOla:


Be careful when you say what Nigerians in Nigeria make in Naira.

Stop confusing the obviously suffering civil service to what the private corporations pay.

Even in the US, political salary compares more with the private industry pay, and not with American civil service pay, despite that both civil service and private industry derive their pay from the same minimum wage as it is in Nigeria also.

Entry level salary at ExxonMobil for Engineers as at 2010, was about N1.5m in this same Nigeria.

That was about $10k monthly at the rate then.

I was at an NNPC interview in 2011, when a guy from Shell who applied for an experienced hire role, declared his salary as N2.5m

There was a time when mid level telecoms personnel were earning between N1.5m to N3m circa 2007.

The problem you have with Nigeria political office pay versus civil service pay, also exist in the US.

Your true comparison should be if such pay is outrageous for that economy.

The answer is hell No!

StOla:


Daddy Cool down.

What you have shown should not be allowed in terms of how the budget of the National Assembly has continued to grow while the minimum wage has stagnated.

However, you cannot blame some of us for not seeing anything scandalous about a salary that an OND graduate will earn in Total.

Yes, compared to the civil service that salary is way higher, but political service and civil service have never had the same pay structure and will never have.

What should not be allowed is having the political class easily adjust their own pay to cater for inflation, while doing nothing significant about minimum wage.

You are talking PURE NONSENSE!
As long as you are being paid by tax payers, your salary is commensurate to other employees also being paid by tax payers. Stop carping nonsense

StOla:


Someone put up here the salary of political roles in the US, all above $150k per annum.

Please tell how many civil servants in that same USA make $70k per annum?

Oh please 🙄

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

What is the retirement benefit of a level 15 teacher after 35 years? Also a police and soldier....what is it?

Most Nigerians are just daft, or choose to be daft foolishly.

StOla:


Someone put up here the salary of political roles in the US, all above $150k per annum.

Please tell how many civil servants in that same USA make $70k per annum?

What are you talking about??
There is no such thing as "political role" that has a different salary. As long as you are being paid by the TAX PAYER salaries are commensurate.
Google it!!!

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

Ah!
Past state governors are taking pensions.
That aside, salaries and pensions of civil servants put together still no reach anything comparable to what politicians take.
I am not saying salaries of politicians and workers should be the same o.

StOla:


Who ever declared a professor must earn more than an entry level tech professional or top law firm entry level lawyer, not to talk of an experienced attorney or experienced finance consultant who has been made partner?

The scenario above is even in the so called saner climes of USA.

I am not comparing a professor with any of the professions you mentioned above. It seems you are not aware of the present topic.
Please compare a professor to a political appointee not an experienced finance consultant.
Or someone in the private world. We are talking about being who the tax payers pay. Hope you get it now?

cococandy:
They are public servants. Their pay should correlate with public service as well.

And if it’s not outrageous for the economy seeing as everything is expensive now, then that means public servants need to be paid better as well.

If the same problem exists in the USA and so what?

Do you think regular Americans are not fighting everyday for better pay and benefits ?

I don’t understand this “logic”

You know the problem with Nigeria?

Everyone thinks the actual pay for political offices that they foolishly term as outrageous, is the reason why the citizenry are suffering.

A hypocrite friend of mine who makes close to $10k monthly, is always yapping about the salary of Nigerian politicians.

I have asked him if he would quit his job to go take up such a political role for the same pay he is always criticising, without any proceeds from corruption.

He is yet to give me a reply, but continue to yap about aimlessly.

I repeat again, why will I criticise the political salary that is not even up to entry level pay in some top private corporations that some Nigerians work for in this same national economy?

This is just like a short-term contract. The amount stated here is not much for the position let's be reasonable

StOla:


Daddy Cool down.

What you have shown should not be allowed in terms of how the budget of the National Assembly has continued to grow while the minimum wage has stagnated.

However, you cannot blame some of us for not seeing anything scandalous about a salary that an OND graduate will earn in Total.

Yes, compared to the civil service that salary is way higher, but political service and civil service have never had the same pay structure and will never have.

What should not be allowed is having the political class easily adjust their own pay to cater for inflation, while doing nothing significant about minimum wage.

Stop confusing yourself. There is no such thing as "political service" that is different from "civil service". They are all PUBLIC SERVANTS and their pays are commensurate.
See below, pay of a US senator compared to an FBI director

Obi~idiots want to set this nation ablaze, may be because they loss election or they want Biafra.
They are now the real enemies of nigeria.
Ask your lord and saviour(Obi) if he wasn't in their shoe when he was governor.

youngestgrad:

Just Stop with the bragging, we are talking of percentages here, how many Nigerians graduates with suitable qualifications are earning a quarter of that amount in a month. You just want the whole Nairaland to know u earn high in your privileged private sector job. Congrats

If you earn poorly, then sorry. The reality is that many people earn well in this country

DaddyCoool:


Stop confusing yourself. There is no such thing as "political service" that is different from "civil service". They are all PUBLIC SERVANTS and there pays are commensurate.
See below, pay of a US senator compared to an FBI director

tctrills:

I am not comparing a professor with any of the professions you mentioned above. It seems you are not aware of the present topic.
Please compare a professor to a political appointee not an experienced finance consultant.
Or someone in the private world. We are talking about being who the tax payers pay. Hope you get it now?

cococandy:
They are public servants. Their pay should correlate with public service as well.

And if it’s not outrageous for the economy seeing as everything is expensive now, then that means public servants need to be paid better as well.

If the same problem exists in the USA and so what?

Do you think regular Americans are not fighting everyday for better pay and benefits ?

I don’t understand this “logic”

hegelian:

Why defend g something that we know to be so wrong.. So because it's a political appointment and for a short term, it means it should earn more than a level 16 or level 17 director.. Why do we always like defending our oppressors or must we defend everything cos we benefit from it

See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.

Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

hmohammed:


If you earn poorly, then sorry. The reality is that many people earn well in this country

It is always difficult when you try to let them know things even from your own personal experience in a bid to show them it is not a fable.

They end up getting angry and claim you are boasting.

This is why many who earn well are always quiet about their real financial status and blend in with the suffering masses.

Maybe it’s not the exact salary they get that’s causing the issues with citizens not getting their fair pay, but the overall cost of governance is outrageous.

And I don’t know why we keep reverting back to the dollar conversions?Why? Is Nigeria’s local currency dollars?

Since you want to go there, Many people I know make more than your friend does. But the average American income is maybe half of that. So in comparison, it’s 2-3 times the normal pay when someone is making 200k annually

So then does it justify a personal assistant in Nigeria making the same pay when the average locals are only making a 10th of it. Do you know what proportionality entails?

StOla:


You know the problem with Nigeria?

Everyone thinks the actual pay for political offices that they foolishly term as outrageous, is the reason why the citizenry are suffering.

A hypocrite friend of mine who makes close to $10k monthly, is always yapping about the salary of Nigerian politicians.

I have asked him if he would quit his job to go take up such a political role for the same pay he is, always criticising, without any proceeds from corruption.

He is yet to give me a reply, but continue to yap about aimlessly.

I repeat again, why will I criticise the political salary that is not even up to entry level pay in some top private corporations that some Nigerians work for in this same national economy?

Their pay is maybe 3x the average citizen.

Why can’t Nigerian politicians be the same way?

StOla:


See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.

Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

LegendHero:


Lol no mind these guys. Poverty don destroy their brain so they think 850k is much for an SA at that level.

I am even surprised it is that low. So these guys are earning roughly what I pay bi-weekly for state tax alone?

I see why Nigeria is corrupt now. From this amount, some constituents will ask him for money, people will bring their problem to him, and then the guy will now have incentive to steal more.

I’m curious about his CONPSS grade/level. It’s not clear how they wrote that GL 33 or maybe na me no understand.

What is the correlation between your bi-'weekly state tax in the US and what a special assistant earns in Nigeria?

None whatsoever.

StOla:







See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.

Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

You are still doubling down on your nonsense.
Google pay of a college lecturer in US then compare it to the salary of a US senator.
Then compare to the outrageous ridiculousity of Nigerian senators compared to Nigerian proffessors!

Nothing much to bother about, I know a Legislative aide to House of Reps member who receives above 850k monthly let alone a P.A in the office of the SGF where all the implementation of everything is done.

That name you called him really fits him..."online dangote"

They know how to deceive themselves... that's how they're able to sleep at night after all the asslicking.

nedu666:


You pay state tax bi weekly. Online dangote

DaddyCoool:


You are still doubling down on your nonsense.
Google pay of a college lecturer in US then compare it to the salary of a US senator.
Then compare to the outrageous ridiculousity below

See below.

DaddyCoool:


You are still doubling down on your nonsense.
Google pay of a college lecturer in US then compare it to the salary of a US senator.
Then compare to the outrageous ridiculousity below

A state public college/university or a privately funded Ivy league University?

You want to convince yourself that a professor at Havard is a civil servant?

Are you a clown or what?

You think the school teachers at BIS, Meadow Hall and Greensprings, and that fancy school that just opened in Lagos, do not earn more than your most senior civil servants and public university professors?

Why not show us the salary of a public school principal in the US, or a fire Service or Prison/Correctional Service head?

How many of the top civil servants in US still earn way less than the US private sector, while mere political appointees in the white house are earning more than these professors of yours?

Exactly same scenario on the payslip we are debating.

Senior Civil Servants in Nigeria earning N400k to N600k monthly in 2022, while a political appointee at that same 2022 was earning about N1m monthly in a country where some entry level Engineers in the private oil industry were earning N1.5m as at 2010, with some experienced Engineers already earning circa N3m as at 2011?

hegelian:

Why defend g something that we know to be so wrong.. So because it's a political appointment and for a short term, it means it should earn more than a level 16 or level 17 director.. Why do we always like defending our oppressors or must we defend everything cos we benefit from it

how is it wrong

hegelian:


You begin to wonder why we always enjoy defending g the very people we are suppose to unite and call to order.. They don't even need to defend themselves cos there are plenty of slaves ready to defend them against common sense.. If ordinary SA warn abeg why won't anyone lick ass just to be given SA job cos of its lucrativity...

nobody is stopping you from cask them to order for the pay 64yrs

That should not stop other s from collecting or instead of wasting time like you

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

Which country that this rogues will not include pension and benefits.... Nigeria....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣....

Eheeeee.... and Eheeeee....!!..

Senate persido... dey collect... salary as former minister governor and now 3rd man in the country....🤣🤣🤣🤣

All i know is that they will answer God..... for the sufferings of the Nigerian.. People..!!

Agreed, but wait
Imagine earning dis amount for 96 months
And tell me why you need 6 million naira gratuity
Think twice

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

StOla:


A state public college/university or a privately funded Ivy league University?

You want to convince yourself that a professor at Havard is a civil servant?

Are you a clown or what?

You think the school teachers at BIS, Meadow Hall and Greensprings, and that fancy school that just opened in Lagos, do not earn more than your most senior civil servants and public university professors?

Why not show us the salary of a public school principal in the US, or a fire Service or Prison/Correctional Service head?

How many of the top civil servants in US still earn way less than the US private sector, while mere political appointees in the white house are earning more than these professors of yours?

Exactly same scenario on the payslip we are debating.

Senior Civil Servants in Nigeria earning N400k to N600k monthly in 2022, while a political appointee at that same 2022 was earning about N1m monthly in a country where some entry level Engineers in the private oil industry were earning N1.5m as at 2010, with some experienced Engineers already earning circa N3m as at 2011?

Is this guy totally daft or something? Guy is there something wrong with you?
You have Google. Make screenshot let's see!
I've shown mine! See below, AVERAGE salary of a US professor.
Are you nuts sir? What is the minium wage in US??
Something that is TOTALLY outrageous and you should be calling for riots you're here carping NONSENSE!

StOla:


See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.

Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

Are you comparing them to Nigerian professors or American professors?

I want to know who you’re comparing them before I even judge your reasoning

If you’re comparing them to Nigerian professors, I don’t know what to tell you.

If you’re comparing them to American professors, those professors make maybe slightly lower income compared to them or in extreme cases in low paying states, they are making 1/3 of those political appointees incomes.

Why can’t Nigerian political appointees make 3x the average salary of the Nigerian local man? Why does their income vary so vastly from what’s generally obtainable?

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

They are called to serve. In serving you don’t need pay people this high amount of money else you will attract the wrong ones to service.

StOla:










See below the pay for Trump regime white house employees.


Ranging from advisers to assistants.

How many university professors or civil servants who have spent 20years or more on their jobs, earn that much for a 4year or less political role?


https://cdn.govexec.com/media/gbc/docs/pdfs_edit/070317whsalaries.html

At least you could have done your research before posting.
Now, you just posted the pay of presidents employees not a governor and the average was about 160k .
A professor in the US makes an average of 155k.
On the other hand, a professor in Nigeria makes 400k but you want to pay a government appointee in the millions. Don't you have conscience?
You are the problem of this country.

muykem:
Let us be realistic. Political appointment is not employment. It's just for little time, no pension, no retirement benefits.

Let us say things as it is. Why appoint a political assistant when there are career civil servants in the agencies and ministries that can do the job. We just waste money, highly paid political appointees are being used to do administrative jobs while the career civil servants have nothing to do, they just sit there at work and sell ankara handbag and co.......we waste money for political rubbish.