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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 12:31am On Jun 04
Lexusgs430:


I would save that £10, and conduct the basic checks by myself.......😂
Na so your ijebu reach cheesy? £10 fah?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:38am On Jun 04
babajeje123:

Na so your ijebu reach cheesy? £10 fah?

If i refuse to spend £15 to wash my car, I shall not be paying £10 to conduct pre-mot checks.......... 😜

I shall not be using my left hand, to point towards my father's house....... 🤣😁
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 1:27am On Jun 04
Zahra29:


I think in about 10 years there will be a massive reverse migration (expatriation lol) to red list countries such as in Africa, whose governments will be forced to pay foreign doctors, nurses, teachers, medical professionals, engineers etc to come in and plug massive skills and experience shortages in their healthcare, education and other sectors.

It's not just the west that needs or will need immigration due to skills shortages. Unchecked brain drain, as is happening in countries like Nigeria, can only go on for so long before it brings a country to its knees. Hopefully these governments are planning and saving ahead.

With a population of over 250m people, countless universities, countless graduates churned out annually, countries like Nigeria might never really lack enough skilled hands. What might happen is that these countries become a kind of feeder to Europe in terms of skilled professionals. Study in Nigeria, get a degree and go work in Europe if privileged. The multitudes remaining would cater for those at home.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 1:30am On Jun 04
kwakudtraveller:

€1,027 per month in blocked funds. The visa fee is just €75 or so and Health Insurance can be gotten privately. Full details can be found below. It’s a really sweet deal and The Indian Times has already posted about how Indians can benefit from it. be like say dem wan reduce their population 😂

https://india.diplo.de/in-en/service/-/2659810

Deutschland über alles... Hehehe
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Teedol: 7:43pm On Jun 04
Better to go through this route than failing the MOT, for example if i want to buy a used car i run away from cars that are serial mot failures, do you know that the number plate lights or even fog lights not working is an MOT failure?


Tier4Dependant:


Google garages near you when you can get a FREE or at most £10 vehicle health check (VHC).

It’s not a guarantee to pass MOT but they will be able to advise you if anything needs to be fixed or if any thing can jeopardise your car’s chances of passing it’s MOT.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by meowvinn: 8:02pm On Jun 04
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:47pm On Jun 04
ehizario2012:


With a population of over 250m people, countless universities, countless graduates churned out annually, countries like Nigeria might never really lack enough skilled hands. What might happen is that these countries become a kind of feeder to Europe in terms of skilled professionals. Study in Nigeria, get a degree and go work in Europe if privileged. The multitudes remaining would cater for those at home.

WHO placed nIgeria on the red list for a reason.

... world’s most fragile health systems do not have enough and many are losing their health workers to international migration,

According to 2019 data there were less than 24.6 thousand doctors in Nigeria for a population of about 206 million people (this number is most likely lower now) - hardly multitudes and certainly not enough to the population
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by gmacnoms(m): 10:48pm On Jun 04
I been wan talk for that License something, but I say make I lockup make e no be like say I go talk or make e no be like say I no to wise . But I see say some people don learn.

Now na MOT. Okay o 😁
Some things aren’t worth the stress. Na small thing Dey jeopardize a lot of things.

Do the right things and have peace of mind.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:11pm On Jun 04
jedisco:


People generally get too emotional about this immigration stuff. Immigration to the UK has never been about a lottery or diversity drive but largely about labour crunch and local need. The inability to formulate a longterm framework has led to these wide swings.

Every government has looked to reduce immigration for a while now. Guess what? Its easy. Just cap the number of sponsorship licenses to say 5000 a month and the annual cap becomes 60000. It can even be made 1000. Its that easy.
The hard part is what does the government do when there are a lack of farm workers, drivers, care workers, health workers e.t.c? Do they allow growth to be restricted, wages/prices to shoot up/mandate local folks to take up these roles or do they look for the universal cheatcode (i.e immigration)?
With all the abuse and surplus in the care sector, why is there still a care visa? Why can't a reasonable chunk of the 2.8m on longterm sick be supported to become carers. Can't a good chunk of those reading vague courses in Unis be shoehorned into healthcare roles so the UK doesn't need so many foreign nurses?

It is when the government faces the stark reality of these that they always turn to immigration - not out of want but need. The question is when next and what sector?

Are the 2.8 M truly sick or half of them disguise, again who are the dr diagnosing them and putting them on long term sick list. 🤔
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 11:15pm On Jun 04
Who watched the election debate and saw how Labour Party are clueless on how to fix the economy. It’s dejavu happening all over again before our very eyes, just like the thunderous sounds of CHANGE many Nigerians chorused without asking what plan APC has to effect the change.

I hope we do not get to experience the same scenario happening in the UK as the main opposition are clueless

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 11:23pm On Jun 04
National service aka NYsc grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 11:55pm On Jun 04
NewT123:
Who watched the election debate and saw how Labour Party are clueless on how to fix the economy. It’s dejavu happening all over again before our very eyes, just like the thunderous sounds of CHANGE many Nigerians chorused without asking what plan APC has to effect the change.

I hope we do not get to experience the same scenario happening in the UK as the main opposition are clueless


This is why I said, I would remain optimistic, but not delusional......... 😁😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 2:18am On Jun 05
NewT123:
Who watched the election debate and saw how Labour Party are clueless on how to fix the economy. It’s dejavu happening all over again before our very eyes, just like the thunderous sounds of CHANGE many Nigerians chorused without asking what plan APC has to effect the change.

I hope we do not get to experience the same scenario happening in the UK as the main opposition are clueless

Those who've experienced both UK parties should speak up please... The bandwagon effect of 2014 really drew Nigeria backwards. Buhari was a c*rse. If it's for an anti - bandwagon effect only, I'll be voting the conservatives to remain in power. Voting on bandwagon effect never really ends well.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 8:52am On Jun 05
ehizario2012:


Those who've experienced both UK parties should speak up please... The bandwagon effect of 2014 really drew Nigeria backwards. Buhari was a c*rse. If it's for an anti - bandwagon effect only, I'll be voting the conservatives to remain in power. Voting on bandwagon effect never really ends well.

I think people need to stop conflating UK and Nigerian politics/ politicians. For starters there are checks and balances here and accountability to the electorate, and if Labour were to come in and be absolutely abysmal and not keep to a single of their manifesto pledges, they would be punished at the polls come the next election, so it's in their own interest to perform well after so many years in the political wilderness.

I've experienced Blair's Labour ,when I was old enough to start paying a bit of attention to politics ,circa 1999, and then obviously the last 14 years of the Tories. It's definitely time for a change of government. Same thing happened towards the end of Thatcher's reign, people grew disillusioned and needed the hope of something better.

The Tories, as they are now ,have lost direction and identity. They are largely self-serving and have become complacent, dictatorial and accustomed to power. David Cameron's government was better, which is saying something. They need a stint in their own political wilderness in order to regroup and find themselves and what they stand for and then maybe they can come back into power in 5, likely 10 years.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 1:12pm On Jun 05
Lexusgs430:



This is why I said, I would remain optimistic, but not delusional......... 😁😂

Uncertainty vs Certainty
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Preshila(f): 1:53pm On Jun 05
My people, please I need counsel on how to go about retrieving my deposit from my Landlord. Have moved out from his property and it's been 3 months and counting, yet he is yet to pay. Just even realized that the money was not deposited in any Government deposit protection scheme, as we were not even aware of that, being that, it was the first house we rented when we moved to the UK.

Please where can I officially report this matter and have our money returned back to us.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ReesheesuKnack: 3:26pm On Jun 05
Preshila:
My people, please I need counsel on how to go about retrieving my deposit from my Landlord. Have moved out from his property and it's been 3 months and counting, yet he is yet to pay. Just even realized that the money was not deposited in any Government deposit protection scheme, as we were not even aware of that, being that, it was the first house we rented when we moved to the UK.

Please where can I officially report this matter and have our money returned back to us.

Did you sign a rent contract (agreement)?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Preshila(f): 3:59pm On Jun 05
ReesheesuKnack:


Did you sign a rent contract (agreement)?

Yes. It was an assured shorthand tenancy Agreement.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:26pm On Jun 05
Preshila:
My people, please I need counsel on how to go about retrieving my deposit from my Landlord. Have moved out from his property and it's been 3 months and counting, yet he is yet to pay. Just even realized that the money was not deposited in any Government deposit protection scheme, as we were not even aware of that, being that, it was the first house we rented when we moved to the UK.

Please where can I officially report this matter and have our money returned back to us.

https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/disputes-and-problems

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 5:29pm On Jun 05
NewT123:


Uncertainty vs Certainty

KS simply wants to bluff his way into Number 10....... By not doing much, not saying much and just stroll into downing street........

KS is forgetting, pot wey must chop pepper, hin yansh must hot ........😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 6:22pm On Jun 05
Lexusgs430:


WHAT........😞🤔

£19,000 for only 5 years visa ....... Haba, the cost of immigration is equitable to paying a deposit on a mortgage + all other logistical cost ....... Loads of respect.....👍

I keep thinking about this and wondering. 19k? shocked People dey try. This is aside a higher sum for masters (if they came through that route) and an even a much higher sum for ILR and finally passport when tge times comes
After 6 years, the total immigration sum paid for a small family of 2 parents and 2 kids is well north of 50k. These same folks go still need get mortgage and plan for retirement e.t.c while being restricted in job search.

Why then do those who are not encumbered by these fees and free to work as they see fit keep talking about cost of living/food banks/house price unaffordablility? Abi their suffering threshold (as one put it) is less than immigrants who are created to suffer?

More needs to be done to put these numbers out there. As anytime the talk of immigration comes up and I bring these numbers up, folks begin to stutter.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 6:42pm On Jun 05
ehizario2012:


With a population of over 250m people, countless universities, countless graduates churned out annually, countries like Nigeria might never really lack enough skilled hands. What might happen is that these countries become a kind of feeder to Europe in terms of skilled professionals. Study in Nigeria, get a degree and go work in Europe if privileged. The multitudes remaining would cater for those at home.

I come across this quite often and just like the Chinese loan issue, my initial response is simple- why are you worried? Is it because you dont want foreign folks around or you are truly worried about Africa. This usually undresses the hypocrisy before I proceed.


Yes, migration of skilled professionals can represent an issue for developing nations and I'd much more prefer the Chinese model of being able to retain/return their best heads than India who exported theirs. The model for development is however not linear and the skill of many of these folks may not be fully utilised at home. This trend can be seen in countless nations including Ireland and the UK. Immigration is as old as man.

For centuries until 1985, Britain had a negative net migration. i.e more folks left than arrived. Britain donated millions of folks to the U.S, Canada, Australia, Zimbabwe, South Africa e.t.c (not even mentioning resources taken). How did that affect their development? There are well less than 1 million Nigerians in the UK. For a nation of over 250 million and increasing by over 5 million folks annually, we can decide to donate 1 million annually. Afterall, Britain did it for centuries and came out strong.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 6:52pm On Jun 05
jedisco:


I keep thinking about this and wondering. 19k? shocked People dey try. This is aside a higher sum for masters if they came through that route and an even a much higher sum for ILR and finally passport when tge times comes
After 6 years, the total immigration sum paid for a small family of 2 parents and 2 kids is well north of 50k. These same folks go still need get mortgage and plan for retirement e.t.c while being restricted in job search.

Why then do those who are not encumbered by these fees and free to work as they see fit keep talking about cost of living/food banks/house price unaffordablility? Abi their suffering threshold (as one put it) is less than immigrants who are created to suffer?

More needs to be done to put these numbers out there. As anytime the talk of immigration comes up and I bring these numbers up, folks begin to stutter.

I keep silently subconsciously whispering same to myself........

Where would funds for other needs and pressures of life, appear from .......

This is probably one of the main reasons, divorce and separations is very high + combining all the above with a self centered, egoistic, stingy, non financially cooperative, significant other........🤣😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:08pm On Jun 05
Abeg make we ho vote- whichever party.
Funny thing is that most immigrants tend to tilt more towards conservatidm (i.e Tories here). Maybe due to having a strong work ethic, religiousity, home values e.t.c.

Seems immigration is the top point. Nigel said the election is one of immigration hehe...
Only 310k Nigerians since 2021 (some of whom would return). Make them calm down. South Africa, Australia e.t.c are not complaining. SAFA was christened rainbow nation and they no cause chaos.

I for one love the increased diversity. When I arrived my town, I'm almost always the only black person on the high street. Today, we don get African shop noni. Nigerian restaurant soon to open. When we have party, na soso many little Brits jumping up and down. No complaints!

Met a Brit (born in Jamaica) and had been in my town for decades. She said when she came, na only two black people dey the whole town. Today, she comes to church and sees many black kids playing with themselves and is elated and almost in tears remenbering her children enjoy such.
My joy is that I follow contribute + support new folks. Rainbow nation noni. My prayer is that our second gen have sense and remember their roots.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:09pm On Jun 05
Lexusgs430:


I keep silently subconsciously whispering same to myself........

Where would funds for other needs and pressures of life, appear from .......

This is probably one of the main reasons, divorce and separations is very high + combining all the above with a self centered, egoistic, stingy, non financially cooperative, significant other........🤣😂

But isn't this where planning comes in? The fees are high yes, but they are also transparent and people should plan in advance how to pay them if they decide to migrate.

Immigration has always been tough. When my husband's family came over during windrush times, his grandparents could not afford to bring all their children so they had to bring them in gradually (one by one) over many years as they got settled and were able to save more money. It's called "send for" and many many families had to do the same. Come over and then send for the rest as and when they could afford it.

This was back in the 50s/60s when racism was rife and overt (Brixton riots and other race riots, the river of blood speech by Enoch Powell and more), Brits literally would not rent homes to blacks and they would display signs in their windows "no Blacks, no Irish, no dogs". So it wasn't even about the money, just finding a safe place to rent for you and your family was a huge challenge. Families were forced to live in single rooms in shared homes as that's all they could get. Banks wouldn't lend to them so they set up the pardner system to lend money to one another. Companies would outrightly refuse to hire or even interview a valid candidate when they turned up and saw they were black.

And all this even though they had been invited by the British government to come and work in the NHs and other industries to help rebuild after WW2. But they saw it as a sacrifice worth making, stuck it out without complaining and made a good life for themselves.

It's always been tough, in fact in a lot of ways it's much much easier now because the stigma of black and brown migration has been reduced by the efforts of those who came in before, there are laws to protect immigrants/ethnic minorities which didn't exist years ago and there is greater equality in the workplace.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 7:12pm On Jun 05
Lexusgs430:


KS simply was to bluff his way into Number 10....... By not doing much, not saying much and just stroll into downing street........

KS is forgetting, pot wey must chop pepper, hin yansh must hot ........😂

No be lie bros. Na correct adage be that😂😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:14pm On Jun 05
jedisco:


I come across this quite often and just like the Chinese loan issue, my initial response is simple- why are you worried? Is it because you dont want foreign folks around or you are truly worried about Africa. This usually undresses the hypocrisy before I proceed.


Yes, migration of skilled professionals can represent an issue for developing nations and I'd much more prefer the Chinese model of being able to retain/return their best heads than India who exported theirs. The model for development is however not linear and the skill of many of these folks may not be fully utilised at home. This trend can be seen in countless nations including Ireland and the UK. Immigration is as old as man.

For centuries until 1985, Britain had a negative net migration. i.e more folks left than arrived. Britain donated millions of folks to the U.S, Canada, Australia, Zimbabwe, South Africa e.t.c (not even mentioning resources taken). How did that affect their development? There are well less than 1 million Nigerians in the UK. For a nation of over 250 million and increasing by over 5 million folks annually, we can decide to donate 1 million annually. Afterall, Britain did it for centuries and came out strong.

Lol,I'm sorry but any country that "donates" skilled professionals abroad to the extent that it is left with an average of 1 doctor for every 8000 people, needs its head examining.

At least WHO is worried even if the governments and people aren't.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 7:21pm On Jun 05
Lexusgs430:


I keep silently subconsciously whispering same to myself........

Where would funds for other needs and pressures of life, appear from .......

This is probably one of the main reasons, divorce and separations is very high + combining all the above with a self centered, egoistic, stingy, non financially cooperative, significant other........🤣😂

Even folks wey don gel go struggle to cough up that kind money go give government. How many of the 2.8m people on longterm sick have contributed upto that sum (aside taxes) to the government in their whole life? Meanwhile, dem no go gree us rest. Interesting thing is that many coughing up these sums are low-average earners. Folks dey struggle with no appreciation. We go survive and multiply.

My only prayer is that after all this struggle, let their kids grow up with sense appreciating their parents struggle.

That divorce dey fear me. Its one of very few things that can take man back to the trenches. I don reason whether to pack some investments in 9ja first. But the currency dey evaporate. Na why I still dey single lane but man gats join dual carriage soon.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 7:35pm On Jun 05
Zahra29:


But isn't this where planning comes in? The fees are high yes, but they are also transparent and people should plan in advance how to pay them if they decide to migrate.

Immigration has always been tough. When my husband's family came over during windrush times, his grandparents could not afford to bring all their children so they had to bring them in gradually (one by one) over many years as they got settled and were able to save more money. It's called "send for" and many many families had to do the same. Come over and then send for the rest as and when they could afford it.

This was back in the 50s/60s when racism was rife and overt (Brixton riots and other race riots, the river of blood speech by Enoch Powell and more), Brits literally would not rent homes to blacks and they would display signs in their windows "no Blacks, no Irish, no dogs". So it wasn't even about the money, just finding a safe place to rent for you and your family was a huge challenge. Families were forced to live in single rooms in shared homes as that's all they could get. Banks wouldn't lend to them so they set up the pardner system to lend money to one another. Companies would outrightly refuse to hire or even interview a valid candidate when they turned up and saw they were black.

It's always been tough, in fact in a lot of ways it's much much easier now because the stigma of black and brown migration has been reduced by the efforts of those who came in before, there are laws to protect immigrants/ethnic minorities which didn't exist years ago and there is greater equality in the workplace.

Sincerely I was moved by this your post. What we have today is subtle racism. Many whites may not like you but they won’t say it to your face. I can only imagine the trauma those little kids who came with their parents during the wind rush would have faced by being rejected and treated with disdain by humans like you. Things have really changed since then. Where I currently live, I would walk in the busy town centre and may not come accros any one of color. Sometimes I wonder how do these folks perceive me as one different from them but I see they are more happy to relate with me and my kids which is nice. Although deeply some may have resentment. If only Africa could break the chains of poverty…

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:41pm On Jun 05
Zahra29:


But isn't this where planning comes in? The fees are high yes, but they are also transparent and people should plan in advance how to pay them if they decide to migrate.

Immigration has always been tough. When my husband's family came over during windrush times, his grandparents could not afford to bring all their children so they had to bring them in gradually (one by one) over many years as they got settled and were able to save more money. It's called "send for" and many many families had to do the same. Come over and then send for the rest as and when they could afford it.

This was back in the 50s/60s when racism was rife and overt (Brixton riots and other race riots, the river of blood speech by Enoch Powell and more), Brits literally would not rent homes to blacks and they would display signs in their windows "no Blacks, no Irish, no dogs". So it wasn't even about the money, just finding a safe place to rent for you and your family was a huge challenge. Families were forced to live in single rooms in shared homes as that's all they could get. Banks wouldn't lend to them so they set up the pardner system to lend money to one another. Companies would outrightly refuse to hire or even interview a valid candidate when they turned up and saw they were black.

And all this even though they had been invited by the British government to come and work in the NHs and other industries to help rebuild after WW2. But they saw it as a sacrifice worth making, stuck it out without complaining and made a good life for themselves.

It's always been tough, in fact in a lot of ways it's much much easier now because the stigma of black and brown migration has been reduced by the efforts of those who came in before, there are laws to protect immigrants/ethnic minorities which didn't exist years ago and there is greater equality in the workplace.

Immigration has always been tough for black/brown people, true. When you're European you're an expat, not an emigrant.
But its only in the UK now that it's this expensive.
Which is ultimately self-defeating, because when you take aspiring people, who have come to make a new life for themselves in a favourable environment, with all the drive that usually entails, double-tax them to near destitution and ghettoise them in the process, you end up with possibly less financially resilient citizens, who ultimately fall back on the state, as well as possibly less well educated/formed second generations, who might end up not being a credit to their now-home country.

It's the same way the virulent racism of the 50s and 60s and 70s held back many incomers from reaching their full potential because they simply never got the opportunity to and were forced to eke out livings doing the only jobs open to them. Ultimately this obviously does not benefit the country.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 7:43pm On Jun 05
jedisco:


Even folks wey don gel go struggle to cough up that kind money go give government. How many of the 2.8m people on longterm sick have contributed upto that sum (aside taxes) to the government in their whole life? Meanwhile, dem no go gree us rest. Interesting thing is that many coughing up these sums are low-average earners. Folks dey struggle with no appreciation. We go survive and multiply.

My only prayer is that after all this struggle, let their kids grow up with sense appreciating their parents struggle.

That divorce dey fear me. Its one of very few things that can take man back to the trenches. I don reason whether to pack some investments in 9ja first. But the currency dey evaporate. Na why I still dey single lane but man gats join dual carriage soon.


Just remember that there are various types of dual carriageways.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:54pm On Jun 05
Cyberknight:


Immigration has always been tough for black/brown people, true. When you're European you're an expat, not an emigrant.
But its only in the UK now that it's this expensive.
Which is ultimately self-defeating, because when you take aspiring people, who have come to make a new life for themselves in a favourable environment, with all the drive that usually entails, double-tax them to near destitution and ghettoise them in the process, you end up with possibly less financially resilient citizens, who ultimately fall back on the state, as well as possibly less well educated/formed second generations, who might end up not being a credit to their now-home country.

It's the same way the virulent racism of the 50s and 60s and 70s held back many incomers from reaching their full potential because they simply never got the opportunity to and were forced to eke out livings doing the only jobs open to them. Ultimately this obviously does not benefit the country.

I agree with the bolded, which is why I stated that most migrants and black people in general have it much easier today, although there will always be progress to be made.

Australia and some other countries are even more expensive than the UK. E.g. In Australia, immigrants have to pay school fees for their children. Education is free here within compulsory school age.They also have to undergo medical tests which affects the premium of the health insurance they have to purchase. In the UK, every immigrant pays more or less the same to access unlimited NHS treatment whether they are fit as a fiddle or have diagnosed/undiagnosed conditions.

I think recent data showed that around 95% (or thereabouts) of recent immigrants are on health and care visas, which means they and their families do not pay IHS. Even those in NHs admin roles are exempted. So the cost to them is a great deal less than £19k for the same size family.

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