NewT123:


Sincerely I was moved by this your post. What we have today is subtle racism. Many whites may not like you but they won’t say it to your face. I can only imagine the trauma those little kids who came with their parents during the wind rush would have faced by being rejected and treated with disdain by humans like you. Things have really changed since then. Where I currently live, I would walk in the busy town centre and may not come accros any one of color. Sometimes I wonder how do these folks perceive me as one different from them but I see they are more happy to relate with me and my kids which is nice. Although deeply some may have resentment. If only Africa could break the chains of poverty…

If you keep looking for/imagining racism, you will find it in some form. Most Brits are not racist today, they may have preconceived notions and might be reserved to start with, but most are fair and will ultimately judge a person on merit. If you work hard and are honest and open/friendly/polite, you will get on fine with most people in most places.

Besides, Africans/Nigerians have just as many stereotypes and isms against white people. "They are lazy, they are not clean, why don't they wash their trainers, they are not home trained etc etc" - these are examples of comments I have heard made against Brits, which is obviously not nice and we would cry racism if they made similar comments against us.

Zahra29:


If you keep looking for/imagining racism, you will find it in some form. Most Brits are not racist, they may have preconceived notions and might be reserved to start with, but most are fair and will ultimately judge a person on merit. If you work hard and are honest and open/friendly/polite, you will get on fine with most people in most places.

Besides, Africans/Nigerians have just as many stereotypes and isms against white people. "They are lazy, they are not clean, why don't they wash their trainers, they are not home trained etc etc" - these are examples of comments I have heard made against Brits, which is obviously not nice and we would cry racism if they made similar comments against us.

There's nothing to add to this really. That first sentence in bold? I've said it to many people time and time again.

And just to add about stereotypes and discriminatory attitudes, I challenge anyone to go take a look at any front page thread on this same Nairaland, and then come to talk about British racism. Doesn't matter the subject, every single thread degenerates into vile ethnic mudslinging, and it's so normal there's a whole culture around it. And it's not just online either, but let's not go into that.

Zahra29:


If you keep looking for/imagining racism, you will find it in some form. Most Brits are not racist today, they may have preconceived notions and might be reserved to start with, but most are fair and will ultimately judge a person on merit. If you work hard and are honest and open/friendly/polite, you will get on fine with most people in most places.

Besides, Africans/Nigerians have just as many stereotypes and isms against white people. "They are lazy, they are not clean, why don't they wash their trainers, they are not home trained etc etc" - these are examples of comments I have heard made against Brits, which is obviously not nice and we would cry racism if they made similar comments against us.

I wish I can get the opportunity to meet you. Maximum respect to you for your contributions on this platform.

Goodenoch:


There's nothing to add to this really. That first sentence in bold? I've said it to many people time and time again.

And just to add about stereotypes and discriminatory attitudes, I challenge anyone to go take a look at any front page thread on this same Nairaland, and then come to talk about British racism. Doesn't matter the subject, every single thread degenerates into vile ethnic mudslinging, and it's so normal there's a whole culture around it. And it's not just online either, but let's not go into that.

💯

"those Mgbati mgbati people..., those okoro people..." I've heard uncles and aunties sling around these slurs casually and I'm like

A uni friend of mine wasn't allowed to marry his then girlfriend (Nigerian) just because she wasn't Yoruba. In England oh.

We're the same ones who expelled our neighbours in droves because of fear/anger that they were taking over Nigerian jobs. I remember when I learned how the "Ghana must go" bag got its name 🙈

Point is, blacks and ethnic minorities also discriminate and are racist/tribalist towards others. We should aim to be the change we want to see.

BeckyB1:


I wish I can get the opportunity to meet you. Maximum respect to you for your contributions on this platform.

Aww bless you, thanks for the kind words🤗

Zahra29:


I agree with the bolded, which is why I stated that most migrants and black people in general have it much easier today, although there will always be progress to be made.

Australia and some other countries are even more expensive than the UK. E.g. In Australia, immigrants have to pay school fees for their children. Education is free here within compulsory school age.They also have to undergo medical tests which affects the premium of the health insurance they have to purchase. In the UK, every immigrant pays more or less the same to access unlimited NHS treatment whether they are fit as a fiddle or have diagnosed/undiagnosed conditions.

I think recent data showed that around 95% (or thereabouts) of recent immigrants are on health and care visas, which means they and their families do not pay IHS. Even those in NHs admin roles are exempted. So the cost to them is a great deal less than £19k for the same size family.

The passion you have for 'anything' UK is unrivalled! Typing volumes back to back!!! Hand no dey pain you? I get back from work and I am gassed out!!!

Are you with the government?

Zahra29:


I think people need to stop conflating UK and Nigerian politics/ politicians. For starters there are checks and balances here and accountability to the electorate, and if Labour were to come in and be absolutely abysmal and not keep to a single of their manifesto pledges, they would be punished at the polls come the next election, so it's in their own interest to perform well after so many years in the political wilderness.

I've experienced Blair's Labour ,when I was old enough to start paying a bit of attention to politics ,circa 1999, and then obviously the last 14 years of the Tories. It's definitely time for a change of government. Same thing happened towards the end of Thatcher's reign, people grew disillusioned and needed the hope of something better.

The Tories, as they are now ,have lost direction and identity. They are largely self-serving and have become complacent, dictatorial and accustomed to power. David Cameron's government was better, which is saying something. They need a stint in their own political wilderness in order to regroup and find themselves and what they stand for and then maybe they can come back into power in 5, likely 10 years.

I agree with you Zahra but Keir is not the man for the job, he lacks charisma and is very evasive. He couldn’t even answer any of the questions thrown at him. I wish Labour had another frontman or person(since they can’t define a woman). I knew we were fighting a lost battle when he said he won’t pay for private healthcare for his dying relative. At this rate I will be voting Reform UK.

jedisco:


Even folks wey don gel go struggle to cough up that kind money go give government. How many of the 2.8m people on longterm sick have contributed upto that sum (aside taxes) to the government in their whole life? Meanwhile, dem no go gree us rest. Interesting thing is that many coughing up these sums are low-average earners. Folks dey struggle with no appreciation. We go survive and multiply.

My only prayer is that after all this struggle, let their kids grow up with sense appreciating their parents struggle.

That divorce dey fear me. Its one of very few things that can take man back to the trenches. I don reason whether to pack some investments in 9ja first. But the currency dey evaporate. Na why I still dey single lane but man gats join dual carriage soon.

Never would have imagined you were single from your write ups, experience and exposure.

Zahra29:


I agree with the bolded, which is why I stated that most migrants and black people in general have it much easier today, although there will always be progress to be made.

Australia and some other countries are even more expensive than the UK. E.g. In Australia, immigrants have to pay school fees for their children. Education is free here within compulsory school age.They also have to undergo medical tests which affects the premium of the health insurance they have to purchase. In the UK, every immigrant pays more or less the same to access unlimited NHS treatment whether they are fit as a fiddle or have diagnosed/undiagnosed conditions.

I think recent data showed that around 95% (or thereabouts) of recent immigrants are on health and care visas, which means they and their families do not pay IHS. Even those in NHs admin roles are exempted. So the cost to them is a great deal less than £19k for the same size family.

NHS admin are not exempt from IHS payment. They may only ask for refund later and payment is annoyingly in piecemeal and even at that, many are unaware.

Cyberknight:


Just remember that there are various types of dual carriageways.

Was gonna echo this... Most whites I've met here are in partnership. I've only seen two with full marriage, with engagement and nuptial ring on the wife. The rest are just partners living together, but not in a marriage. Small time, they scatter. No time

Peerielass:


I agree with you Zahra but Keir is not the man for the job, he lacks charisma and is very evasive. He couldn’t even answer any of the questions thrown at him. I wish Labour had another frontman or person(since they can’t define a woman). I knew we were fighting a lost battle when he said he won’t pay for private healthcare for his dying relative. At this rate I will be voting Reform UK.

Lol. Let me say it in Yoruba, e má s'òbò nù. Don't waste votes 😁

Peerielass:


I agree with you Zahra but Keir is not the man for the job, he lacks charisma and is very evasive. He couldn’t even answer any of the questions thrown at him. I wish Labour had another frontman or person(since they can’t define a woman). I knew we were fighting a lost battle when he said he won’t pay for private healthcare for his dying relative. At this rate I will be voting Reform UK.

Why was this the wrong thing to say? I only know of 1 private ITU in London. If you are critically ill, you want to be in an NHS hospital. Critical care is unmatched in the NHS.
He knows this, his wife is a doctor,i believe.
I want a PM who uses the NHS , he will fight to fund the NHS properly.

Do you know the reform UK plan for immigration? It's not a coincidence that all the skinheads are in that party. Do not vote for Christmas if you are a broiler chicken.

missjekyll:


Why was this the wrong thing to say? I only know of 1 private ITU in London. If you are critically ill, you want to be in an NHS hospital. Critical care is unmatched in the NHS.
He knows this, his wife is a doctor,i believe.
I want a PM who uses the NHS , he will fight to fund the NHS properly.

Do you know the reform UK plan for immigration? It's not a coincidence that all the skinheads are in that party. Do not vote for Christmas if you are a broiler chicken.

"Do not vote for Christmas if you are a broiler chicken."

Wow! You talk this one 👍🏾

ehizario2012:


"Do not vote for Christmas if you are a broiler chicken."

Wow! You talk this one 👍🏾

This would make turkeys envious...... ☀️🦃🦃🦃🦃🍗

jedisco:


Even folks wey don gel go stru

My only prayer is that after all this struggle, let their kids grow up with sense appreciating their parents struggle.

Proper upbringing and once in a while living in Nigeria are the best ways to go about preventing such. They need to see how and what the alternatives look like. On the other hand, they need to see/experience that there are other ways black people succeed rather than the few means in the UK. I believe it is important for black kids raised in societies with few black people to live and experience life in black-dominated societies and see that it is possible to thrive in any condition.

That divorce dey fear me. Its one of very few things that can take man back to the trenches. I don reason whether to pack some investments in 9ja first. But the currency dey evaporate. Na why I still dey single lane but man gats join dual carriage soon.

With a British passport, you are almost a global citizen. Nigeria should not be your only option and is not the only black-dominated country. There is South Africa, the Cayman Islands, Barbados, Ghana etc., depending on how your investments grow. If it gets too big, there is Hong Kong and Singapore.

Lexusgs430:



This would make turkeys envious...... ☀️🦃🦃🦃🦃🍗

Lol. I even noticed turkey is more synonymous with Christmas here. So all join. Let's add Christmas goat too 🍽️

Peerielass:


I agree with you Zahra but Keir is not the man for the job, he lacks charisma and is very evasive. He couldn’t even answer any of the questions thrown at him. I wish Labour had another frontman or person(since they can’t define a woman). I knew we were fighting a lost battle when he said he won’t pay for private healthcare for his dying relative. At this rate I will be voting Reform UK.

Labour is indeed uninspiring, and in fact Labour is actually matching the Tories in harsh promises against immigration (the usual rubbish to seem tough and hopefully win voters). While its the usual playbook to promise all sorts and do something else if you get into power, dialing up anti-immigration rhetoric constitutes demonising visible minorities of different skin colour, irrespective of their immigration or citizenship status and people believe this stuff readily.

But instead of throwing your vote away by voting for Reform UK, which is just a slightly cleaned up and public-schoolboy-fronted version of the old National Front of those days and which has no tangible policies apart from talking about immigration and taxing immigrants more than the double taxation we already pay (something that might put off companies from hiring anyone with a non-British name, irrespective of citizenship status (HR people in this country tend not to know anything much about immigration laws), abeg throw your vote away through the Lib Dems who are now the real national left wing party, or the SNP if you're in Scotland.

missjekyll:


Why was this the wrong thing to say? I only know of 1 private ITU in London. If you are critically ill, you want to be in an NHS hospital. Critical care is unmatched in the NHS.
He knows this, his wife is a doctor,i believe.
I want a PM who uses the NHS , he will fight to fund the NHS properly.

Do you know the reform UK plan for immigration? It's not a coincidence that all the skinheads are in that party. Do not vote for Christmas if you are a broiler chicken.

As an avid Labour supporter, can you honestly say that you were impressed by his performance on Tuesday night’s debate? I’m sure that debate did more damage than good for Labour.

His response to the NHS question was based on political ideology rather than commons sense. He will not use private healthcare to help a dying loved one, he would continue to wait on NHS waiting list. That to me is either foolishness or plain white lie but each to their own. Same reason he finds it difficult to define a woman.

I can vote whoever I want to vote for or even spoil my ballot paper. Labour does not deserve my vote because I don’t know what they stand for. They have refused to provide clarification on a whole lot of issues which I’m interested in. At least with the Tory’s and Reform UK, what you see is what you get!

toughest007:


The passion you have for 'anything' UK is unrivalled! Typing volumes back to back!!! Hand no dey pain you? I get back from work and I am gassed out!!!

Are you with the government?

Or maybe I'm just a loyal citizen.

My hand is not paining me lol. Working from home so I have enough gas in the tank.

Peerielass:


I agree with you Zahra but Keir is not the man for the job, he lacks charisma and is very evasive. He couldn’t even answer any of the questions thrown at him. I wish Labour had another frontman or person(since they can’t define a woman). I knew we were fighting a lost battle when he said he won’t pay for private healthcare for his dying relative. At this rate I will be voting Reform UK.

Fair enough, I see your points about Keir. I'm not convinced about him either but I'm approaching it with the view of not letting the "perfect become the enemy of the good". He's not perfect but he's good enough for now and in fairness to him he's done a good job in turning Labour around from the worst electoral defeat in 2019 to being projected to win the largest number of seats ever.

Re the bolded, I don't think that's a bad idea at all. Reform is currently polling 3rd above Libdems so it might not be a wasted vote afterall. Even if they won just a few seats, it would be good to have them in parliament to keep the government on its toes.

Asides Reform, we don't have a viable right wing party - all the other parties are either far left, leftish or centre left/centre right depending on which way the wind blows. I think a few right wing MPs will help bring some balance to UK politics and some of Reform's policies are actually good, plain common sense (they're not only focused on immigration).

Zahra29:


Fair enough, I see your points about Keir. I'm not convinced about him either but I'm approaching it with the view of not letting the "perfect become the enemy of the good". He's not perfect but he's good enough for now and in fairness to him he's done a good job in turning Labour around from the worst electoral defeat in 2019 to being projected to win the largest number of seats ever.

Re the bolded, I don't think that's a bad idea at all. Reform is currently polling 3rd above Libdems so it might not be a wasted vote afterall. Even if they won just a few seats, it would be good to have them in parliament to keep the government on its toes.

Asides Reform, we don't have a viable right wing party - all the other parties are either far left, leftish or centre left/centre right depending on which way the wind blows. I think a few right wing MPs will help bring some balance to UK politics and some of Reform's policies are actually good, plain common sense (they're not only focused on immigration).

It was not his doing...... Conservatives walked themselves out of power.......😂

Lexusgs430:



It was not his doing...... Conservatives walked themselves out of power.......😂

True, the Tories have helped his cause lol

However think for a second if Corbyn was still Labour leader....would he be projected to win over 400 seats? I think most voters would be tempted to stick with the Tories if the alternative was Corbyn, so Starmer's image has definitely helped win voters back to Labour.

Zahra29:


True, the Tories have helped his cause lol

However think for a second if Corbyn was still Labour leader....would he be projected to win over 400 seats? I think most voters would be tempted to stick with the Tories if the alternative was Corbyn, so Starmer's image has definitely helped win voters back to Labour.

If a donkey was the leader of Labour at the moment, I guarantee you most voters would still tilt towards labour........

Labour is enjoying the vice president privilege, that slides in when Oga dies .......🤣

Lexusgs430:


If a donkey was the leader of Labour at the moment, I guarantee you most voters would still tilt towards labour........

Labour is enjoying the vice president privilege, that slides in when Oga dies .......🤣

I guarantee you that if Corbyn or David Lammy or Angela Rayner or Diane Abbot or even Wes Streeting (as examples) was leader, Labour would not be polling so high and projected to win so many seats. Best hope would be a hung parliament.

The Tories would wipe the floor with them and would come across way more credible.

Zahra29:


I guarantee you that if Corbyn or David Lammy or Angela Rayner or Diane Abbot or even Wes Streeting (as examples) was leader, Labour would not be polling so high and projected to win so many seats. Best hope would be a hung parliament.

The Tories would wipe the floor with them and would come across way more credible.

The conservatives have myriad of issues...... They cannot offer new/any promises now, people would ask why could you not deliver in the 14 previous years......

Electorates simply want a change, conservatives are currently tainted with all sorts of negativities, from corruption, collapse of key sectors of the economy, ineptitude, lack of empathy etc etc etc ........

I just hope we don't jump from the mouth of tiger, into the mouth of a crocodile.... ..🐊🐯

Lexusgs430:


The conservatives have myriad of issues...... They cannot offer new/any promises now, people would ask why could you not deliver in the 14 previous years......

Electorates simply want a change, conservatives are currently tainted with all sorts of negativities, from corruption, collapse of key sectors of the economy, ineptitude, lack of empathy etc etc etc ........

I just hope we don't jump from the mouth of tiger, into the mouth of a crocodile.... ..🐊🐯

We'll be fine, we have to stay positive 😊....we can't let fear of the unknown stop us from leaving a situation that is clearly no longer working.

It's like expecting someone to remain in an abusive relationship because better the devil he/she knows....

Lexusgs430:


I just hope we don't jump from the mouth of tiger, into the mouth of a crocodile.... ..🐊🐯

Just as Nigeria (2015) cursed ‘16 horrible years of the PDP’.

Elected an APC which clearly did not have a plan.

Look where Nigeria is today.

Question: How will you stop the boats?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs.

Moderator: How will you smash the gangs?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs by smashing the gangs.
Moderator: How
Keir Starmer: (looks like a rabbit in the headlights): scratches head. Zip.
Moderator: Will you send boat arrivals to a 3rd safe country?
Keir Starmer: YES, I will.

Me watching at home: So Labour policy aligns and agrees with sending boat arrivals to another country. Why did the pretend to be opposed to Rwanda?

ReesheesuKnack:


Just as Nigeria (2015) cursed ‘16 horrible years of the PDP’.

Elected an APC which clearly did not have a plan.

Look where Nigeria is today.

Question: How will you stop the boats?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs.

Moderator: How will you smash the gangs?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs by smashing the gangs.
Moderator: How
Keir Starmer: (looks like a rabbit in the headlights): scratches head. Zip.
Moderator: Will you send boat arrivals to a 3rd safe country?
Keir Starmer: YES, I will.

Me watching at home: So Labour policy aligns and agrees with sending boat arrivals to another country. Why did the pretend to be opposed to Rwanda?

Not forgetting Keir clearly stating, he would rather his loved one's died in pain, than get procedure done privately.........😂🤑

ReesheesuKnack:


Just as Nigeria (2015) cursed ‘16 horrible years of the PDP’.

Elected an APC which clearly did not have a plan.

Look where Nigeria is today.

Question: How will you stop the boats?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs.

Moderator: How will you smash the gangs?
Keir Starmer: I will smash the gangs by smashing the gangs.
Moderator: How
Keir Starmer: (looks like a rabbit in the headlights): scratches head. Zip.
Moderator: Will you send boat arrivals to a 3rd safe country?
Keir Starmer: YES, I will.

Me watching at home: So Labour policy aligns and agrees with sending boat arrivals to another country. Why did the pretend to be opposed to Rwanda?

Haba that's not accurate. He was saying that they would be processed in a 3rd country before being allowed to come into the country (for those who qualify). Similar way the Ukrainian refugees were processed off shore before being given visas to continue to the UK.

Those who don't qualify will remain in the 3rd country or elsewhere which sounds more common sense than the current system of allowing them all into the UK and then paying £ millions per day to house and feed them while they wait years for their claims to be processed.

Neither Starmer nor Sunak went into detail on their plans. It's just not realistic in the < 30 seconds they are given to answer a question while the opponent (mostly Sunak lol) is shouting over you.

These types of debates are focused on generating headlines like Sunak was trying to do with the "£2k tax" line he kept repeating over and over.

Lexusgs430:


https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/disputes-and-problems

Thank you.🚶‍♂️

Zahra29:


Or maybe I'm just a loyal citizen.

My hand is not paining me lol. Working from home so I have enough gas in the tank.

I'm also a loyal citizen na, even more loyal than you

You highlighted the question but carefully didn't answer it... Typical of politicians!