zeusis:

Summerville is not fit to sit on our bench. At this point it seems we are desperate for signings and I hope we don't make panic buys.

That summerville they play like Vinicius.

airmark:


Nobody can predict that the likes of Manchester utd, Liverpool, Spurs won't fix their issues against next season. Had we got a better finisher and no injury issues, we wouldn't be stuck with looking at just making top 4 next season.

We created gazillion big chances, and with a better finisher we would have got enough 3 points to make top 4 last season, despite the injuries to key players.

I have answered your question numerous times, this team don't need to spend lavishly on other departments. Get two quality natural finishers better than Jackson, with Tosin added and another quality LW, we can win the league if our players are not plagued with injuries.

We shouldn't' be thinking like Brighton and Aston villa, happy to be making top 4. We should give preference to fixing our major problem - scoring goals.

For the record, no one is content being just top four. I went on record last season with an ambitious forecast of winning the league.

I also have been on record saying our problems last season were purely tactical, and that a better tactical manager would have finished top four easily.

So let's put that whole Brighton, Aston Villa talk to bed once and for all. .

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To the striker situation, again i don't think anyone opposes upgrading any positions; and this includes Jackson. Let's not conflate issues.

The debate is about understanding what is realistic arguments and what isn't.

1. Don't ask us to spend £100m on strikers who are at worst, on par with Jackson, or at best, only marginally better. It makes no financial sense.

2. Don't tell us we need to sign a new striker to compete for the league or even win it. It's just not true.. And there's a plethora of examples.

3. The club is not going to spend £80m on any striker aged 25+. It's just not going to happen. So there's no need recommending those.

Katcall:
Clinical in what? Tap ins

Yet the best striker in the EPL scores only tap ins and penalties. I ask u a simple question which u have refused to answer. Name a better Portuguese center forward better than him right now

hensben:
Three greatest footballer of all time are all South America. Top ten footballers of all time six will definitely come from South America. Messi pele and maradona took the three spot in that order.

Messi is never better than Pele.

forgiveness:


Messi is never better than Pele.

says someone who has never watched pele play active football

nateevs:


For the record, no one is content being just top four. I went on record last season with an ambitious forecast of winning the league.

I also have been on record saying our problems last season were purely tactical, and that a better tactical manager would have finished top four easily.

That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.

nateevs:



To the striker situation, again i don't think anyone opposes upgrading any positions; and this includes Jackson. Let's not conflate issues.

The debate is about understanding what is realistic arguments and what isn't.

Good, let's upgrade the wasteful Jackson.

nateevs:


1. Don't ask us to spend £100m on strikers who are at worst, on par with Jackson, or at best, only marginally better. It makes no financial sense.

Gyokeres and Dovbyk are massively better than Jackson. That's how someone ignorantly posted Sesko's goals per match stat to show he is not better than Jackson. When I showed their goal per minute stat, he ran away.

Important stats like Goal per minute, big chances missed, possessions lost etc, expose Jackson as a liability that must be replaced.

nateevs:


2. Don't tell us we need to sign a new striker to compete for The league or even win it. It's just not true.. And there's a plethora of examples.

With volume of big chances we created and missed and with Jackson as the major culprit, this your view is null.

Even when we had Hazard and better wingers, Costa's effectiveness in front of goal was the cherry on the cake that gave us Epl trophies.

nateevs:

3. The club is not going to spend £80m on any striker aged 25+. It's just not going to happen. So there's no need recommending those.

There are strikers better than Jackson that don't cost 80m and are still below 25. Dovbyk, Alvarez, even Rodrigo Muniz (injury concern) are all better than Jackson in front of goal.

Maresca would be foolish, going into the season with Jackson as our main striker again.

andrewbaba44:


Good transfer by Madrid and nothing wrong in that

Same way with city getting haaland for 50M plus

You are still crying over Mbappe's Real Madrid move?

You never begin cry

forgiveness:


Messi is never better than Pele.

And how is Pele better than Messi? Messi went to world final twice, won Olympics and under 20 wc for Argentina, he was the best player in all of this.

Exclusive: Chelsea have earmarked Thiago Silva as potential future manager in long-term coaching vision. (via @NickPurewal)


nice to hear

airmark:


That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.

you were not right about Jackson you were just unhappy, you expected this and they got something else. It happens

Gyokeres and Dovbyk are massively better than Jackson. That's how someone ignorantly posted Sesko's goals per match stat to show he is not better than Jackson. When I showed their goal per minute stat, he ran away.

Important stats like Goal per minute, big chances missed, possessions lost etc, expose Jackson as a liability that must be replaced.



With volume of big chances we created and missed and with Jackson as the major culprit, this your view is null.

Even when we had Hazard and better wingers, Costa's effectiveness in front of goal was the cherry on the cake that gave us Epl trophies.



There are strikers better than Jackson that don't cost 80m and are still below 25. Dovbyk, Alvarez, even Rodrigo Muniz (injury concern) are all better than Jackson in front of goal.

Maresca would be foolish, going into the season with Jackson as our main striker again.

it's sad and pathetic that you mentioned Alvarez, it shows how desperate you are, why not let Nkunku be CF instead then and stop your noise. By the way Artem Dovbyk isn't 25, he is almost 27. And the fact you mentioned Muniz is better than Jackson just says it all.


All the noise you have been making you haven't mentioned one single striker that would fit Maresca style and still bang in goals and will definitely bench Jackson.

Chelsea ain't looking at Osimhen and Viktor because of price and age, they have made an offer for Sesko who may must likely not join Chelsea.

airmark:


That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.



Good, let's upgrade the wasteful Jackson.



Gyokeres and Dovbyk are massively better than Jackson. That's how someone ignorantly posted Sesko's goals per match stat to show he is not better than Jackson. When I showed their goal per minute stat, he ran away.

Important stats like Goal per minute, big chances missed, possessions lost etc, expose Jackson as a liability that must be replaced.



With volume of big chances we created and missed and with Jackson as the major culprit, this your view is null.

Even when we had Hazard and better wingers, Costa's effectiveness in front of goal was the cherry on the cake that gave us Epl trophies.



There are strikers better than Jackson that don't cost 80m and are still below 25. Dovbyk, Alvarez, even Rodrigo Muniz (injury concern) are all better than Jackson in front of goal.

Maresca would be foolish, going into the season with Jackson as our main striker again.

You posted stats for the just concluded season and I asked you to go bring the one of two seasons ago where both were regulars in their team, you begin dey foam for mouth but na me run away.

nateevs:


No one cares about farmer's league around the world. I am talking the PL and championship.

How many players his age are wreaking havoc in the PL and Championship?

You want to add summerville who is not even taller than sterling to the dead woods we have upfront. Goodbye to winning aerial duels up front. We are not winning aerial duels upfront, we are not winning aerial duels in the middle of the park

stulp16:
says someone who has never watched pele play active football

As e no fit argue with him Ronaldo again e switch to pele

airmark:


That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.



Good, let's upgrade the wasteful Jackson.



Gyokeres and Dovbyk are massively better than Jackson. That's how someone ignorantly posted Sesko's goals per match stat to show he is not better than Jackson. When I showed their goal per minute stat, he ran away.

Important stats like Goal per minute, big chances missed, possessions lost etc, expose Jackson as a liability that must be replaced.



With volume of big chances we created and missed and with Jackson as the major culprit, this your view is null.

Even when we had Hazard and better wingers, Costa's effectiveness in front of goal was the cherry on the cake that gave us Epl trophies.



There are strikers better than Jackson that don't cost 80m and are still below 25. Dovbyk, Alvarez, even Rodrigo Muniz (injury concern) are all better than Jackson in front of goal.

Maresca would be foolish, going into the season with Jackson as our main striker again.

airmark Don come again. Which one is Rodrigo Muniz as upgrade on Jackson

lordfalcao:
with this analysis, we even need olise more than ever.

We can't be sure madueke can guarantee 10 league goals

madueke ke...that brother isn't him

airmark:


That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.



Good, let's upgrade the wasteful Jackson.



Gyokeres and Dovbyk are massively better than Jackson. That's how someone ignorantly posted Sesko's goals per match stat to show he is not better than Jackson. When I showed their goal per minute stat, he ran away.

Important stats like Goal per minute, big chances missed, possessions lost etc, expose Jackson as a liability that must be replaced.



With volume of big chances we created and missed and with Jackson as the major culprit, this your view is null.

Even when we had Hazard and better wingers, Costa's effectiveness in front of goal was the cherry on the cake that gave us Epl trophies.



There are strikers better than Jackson that don't cost 80m and are still below 25. Dovbyk, Alvarez, even Rodrigo Muniz (injury concern) are all better than Jackson in front of goal.

Maresca would be foolish, going into the season with Jackson as our main striker again.

as for the last statement,the board will surely get a striker...But we don't which one for now

lordfalcao:
airmark Don come again. Which one is Rodrigo Muniz as upgrade on Jackson

😂😂

airmark:


That's one of the issues I have with you - faulty judgement of players' ability. While you thought Jackson could lead us to winning the Epl, It's on record I asked for a better striker before the season started. Eventually, I was right as Jackson flopped in front of goal, repeatedly and we couldn't win Epl as you dreamt.

Sir, you are renowned for faulty judgement of player's abilities..... on an infinite level, everyone knows this. It literally takes up 60-70% of the arguments of this space. You probably go to Torres and Morata, and that's about it for me. You on the other hand though....I will let Dayo and the crew remind you.

To the topic at hand. We did not fall short of winning the league because of Jackson. That's disingenuous. You recommended bloody Vlahovic. You think he instead of Jackson would have won the league? Are you seriously kidding us.

On the other points, I make good judgement with data. Chelsea has won the league only twice with a striker scoring more than 20 goals. Matter of fact, the first two league titles were won by all of the support casts, not by main strikers. This is despite having renowned names like Crespo, Mutu, Shevchenko and Drogba.

Madrid has no renowned no 9 scoring 20+, yet they coasted to a CL trophy.

In the years of Liverpool's dominance under Klopp, they had no renowned no 9.

Arsenal did not fail to win the league because they had no renowned no 9.

The list goes on.


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The likes of you would have preferred Darwin Nunez to Jackson 3 seasons ago. Until they show up in the PL and are posting poverty numbers. Meanwhile Jackson shows up and scoring 60% of Nunes' total in one season, despite his misses.

Tactically, the one very important thing you completely miss is that Jackson is a hardworking, intelligent and elite-level footballer who constantly makes runs for his team mates and shows up in the right places. This is a precursor to missing chances in the first place. That's an inherent ability.

The fact that he misses chances doesn't automatically equate to Vlahovic arriving in those same right places. Therefore there is an argument to be made that it does not automatically translate to higher scoring prowess.

In all, no one is saying that for the right player, don't upgrade Jackson. That's not even close to what the debate is about. I for one would sign Alvarez in a heart beat.

But to be bringing us Dobvyk, Muniz, Vlahovic all because you don't like Jackson is pure nonsense.


5 seasons ago, Airmark would have been telling us Bellotti is better than Jackson.

BlueAngel444:
you were not right about Jackson you were just unhappy, you expected this and they got something else. It happens


.

You were busy twerking on Real Madrid thread that time, so get out.

nateevs:


To the topic at hand. We did not fall short of winning the league because of Jackson. That's disingenuous. You recommended bloody Vlahovic. You think he instead of Jackson would have won the league? Are you seriously kidding us.

While you erronously believed Jackson would lead our line to win the league last season, below was my post in August. Do I need to post the curses many Chelsea fans later hurled at Jackson?

airmark:


Nkuku is not a natural top striker, we need another 9. Broja should go on loan, he is not ready yet to do 25+ league goals.

Our major problem that I can see is, putting the ball at the back of the net. We are creating plenty of chances but still don't know how to bury them. I am not against Olize, but we need another natural striker, so that pressure of scoring won't kill this young Jackson.

I don't need to waste time on this as Chelsea already saw the need to replace your wasteful Jackson.

Be that as it may, if you are Juventus Chairman, will you swap Jackson for Vlahovic? No sane club owner or coach would do that and that's why your view that Vlahovic is not a better finisher, is ludicrous.

I will find time to address other horrendous claims in your post. I just parked briefly, to reply this.

Say no to Alvarez. That nigga too short and weak and can't lead the line

Anyone posting poverty numbers when leading the line for City is a big suspect

See our guy Jesus at Arsenal as example

City want dupe us like they did with Sterling. That guy has been playing rubbish at City this last season

hensben:
And how is Pele better than Messi? Messi went to world final twice, won Olympics and under 20 wc for Argentina, he was the best player in all of this.

Pele won 3 world cups and he was the best in two. That's tko.

hensben:
Peru can beat any European team not France, Spain, Portugal, England and Italy. What are we not saying. Euro is entertaining and enterprising due to financial strength of the continent and not because they produce better talent than South America. Learn or you perish.

Peru came to 2018 world cup and lost to Denmark hensben

stulp16:
says someone who has never watched pele play active football

Because you never saw him play means Messi is better, right?

Grealish and Maguire will miss the Euros

andrewbaba44:


As e no fit argue with him Ronaldo again e switch to pele

Pele and Ronaldo are not in the same level

BlueMann:
Grealish and Maguire will miss the Euros

Deserved

airmark:


While you erronously believed Jackson would lead our line to win the league last season, below was my post in August. Do I need to post the curses many Chelsea fans later hurled at Jackson?



I don't need to waste time on this as Chelsea already saw the need to replace your wasteful Jackson.

Be that as it may, if you are Juventus Chairman, will you swap Jackson for Vlahovic? No sane club owner or coach would do that and that's why your view that Vlahovic is not a better finisher, is ludicrous.

I will find time to address other horrendous claims in your post. I just parked briefly, to reply this.

Alhaji park well. Vlahovic was valued at £80m +, whilst Jackson was valued at £30m. That's £50m of difference in value.

Whilst Vlahovic is posting 16 goals in the season in a weaker and slower league, Jackson posted 14 goals in the Premier League, with the biggest debate being that he could have scored more.

We don't care about Juventus' chairman. At £80m +, if that ninjah is not posting 35 goals in the Serie already, Chelsea's board have concluded, pound for pound, he's not better than Jackson. And that's the ultimate data-driven verdict.

airmark:

I will find time to address other horrendous claims in your post. I just parked briefly, to reply this.

No crash oh. Who dey park car to reply Nairaland post. Rest abeg

nateevs:


Alhaji park well. Vlahovic was valued at £80m +, whilst Jackson was valued at £30m. That's £50m of difference in value.

Whilst Vlahovic is posting 16 goals in the season in a weaker and slower league, Jackson posted 14 goals in the Premier League, with the biggest debate being that he could have scored more.

We don't care about Juventus' chairman. At £80m +, if that ninjah is not posting 35 goals in the Serie already, Chelsea's board have concluded, pound for pound, he's not better than Jackson. And that's the ultimate data-driven verdict.

Calm down baba, which one be Alhaji?

Jackson already admitted that he was wasteful for us, so no need to defend him abeg. I even want him to go on loan after we get his replacement, so that his development won't be stalled on the bench. I still believe he can improve, for now he can't use Chelsea senior team as academy.

Vlahovic's value rose again after we fumbled the chance to nab him last summer. You don't buy diamond the price of bronze. I was in support of Lukaku+ 30m that time and it would have helped us. He is not useless in front of goal as Jackson.

A natural finisher is what we need most next season.

Ibime:


No crash oh. Who dey park car to reply Nairaland post. Rest abeg

Actually munched something on the road.

nateevs:


Alhaji park well. Vlahovic was valued at £80m +, whilst Jackson was valued at £30m. That's £50m of difference in value.

Whilst Vlahovic is posting 16 goals in the season in a weaker and slower league, Jackson posted 14 goals in the Premier League, with the biggest debate being that he could have scored more.

We don't care about Juventus' chairman. At £80m +, if that ninjah is not posting 35 goals in the Serie already, Chelsea's board have concluded, pound for pound, he's not better than Jackson. And that's the ultimate data-driven verdict.

Vlahovic scored 2 penalties as well
So 14 non pk goals 3 assists, in 2300mins

Nicholas Jackson 14 non pk goals 5 assists in 2800mins