lauzun:

Ok, I'll humor you.
Pray tell. The Jerusalem of Biblical King David's time is located where? Your father's house?
Going by your logic, historically the Jews are the original owners of the land as Israel as a people and nation have existed for centuries before we heard of anything like Palestinians.
Palestines are Arabs, simple.

Lolz. First and foremost, lets not use slurs, okay? I didn't use any slurs on your father, so you can jolly well make your own point without making slurs. Don't be that guy who has no regards for his father.

Now we are talking about contemporary history, and you are talking about biblical history, your knowledge of which is obviously flawed. Okay. I'll humor you. Who are the Palestinians? The original Palestinians? The original occupiers of what is today Palestine and the land of Israel? The Philistines.

So in talking about the Biblical time of David, u are talking about Canaan and the land to it's east, towards the red sea. So who were the original occupiers of this land? The Philistines. So your logic falls short.

Now let me make my point. You mention the Palestinians today as Arabs. But who are Arabs and who are Jews? Both descendants of Ishmael and Isaac respectively. And who are these two descendants of? Abraham. So we all, including you and me, the modern day Israelis who are either originally Palestinian or resettled from all over the the world (after the second world war) and the Palestinians most of whom who can trace their heritage in Palestine all the way back, sometimes, 10 generations are descendants of Abraham.

Hence I make the case that:

1. Once we separate the politically formed state of Israel which is a mere political contraption of a handful of individuals, from what it means to be a Jew, a Christian or a muslim living in the geographical space called Israel or Gaza or the west bank, there is no need for all the needless killing and genocide that has been going on since the state of Israel was formed in 1948.

2. Since we are all descendants of Abraham, the ancestor of both Christianity and Islam and Judaism and by inference the first Jew, we are all Jews wether we know it or not (yes, including your Arabs).

So why should one Jew, feeling superior to another pick up arms to try to exterminate another Jew? The answer? Zionism. Which in essence is a form of racism, or colonialism - The belief that one Jew or one race is superior to every other.

That is the crux of the matter today. Please get that right.

Obaranje:
you made a very stupid and incompatible analysis therefore you deserve no answer until you come up with something more tangible and relating

Lol. Okay.

Krismas:
Call off which war? Israel is losing the war wotowoto. It is Israel that need to start begging. Killing civilians does not give u military victory

you sound mentally ill. So in an event of war, those who left the comfort of their home and make your home the battle ground are the ones that will be begging for the war to stop?

They can go back to their home when and however they want, make love to their wife's comfortably, and play with their kids and return back to your home to continue the war

In your house if they want they can sleep with your wife's, daughters, sisters, mothers and you can do nada

Deprive you of your comfort and community life. You open the gutter you called mouth that such person will be begging to go instead of the deprived.

If you know what war is only then you will understand what the people of gaza are going through, thus you will not be making all this unguided statement

The Palestiner people should save themselves from Israeli army by mountain pressure on Hamas

As this war is going they might not survive this for long. Israel has gone on rampage and are not ready to stop.

Dey here dey yawn opata.

Obaranje:
since Israel and the west want me to believe Hamas is hiding behind civilians.

Sure hope all Jazeera is not trying to make you also believe that 36,000 people killed are all civilians women and children no fighters.

If Israel has not been killing fighters, I wonder why we are not seeing 5,000 rocket still flying to Israel on a daily basis again just like in the begining of the war.

Does it mean civilians have been the ones firing those rocket all this while?

You must be a fool to believe that all 36,000 people killed are all civilians no Hamas fighters among them.

Al Jazeera will tell you 47 people killed, who are the 47 people? If 47 terrorist were sent to their maker how does that transcend to civilians?

Al Jazeera have never reported the death of one Hamas terrorist, all are civilians.

Una dey wyne una self abi?

Lol. Suit yourself. Whatever rocks you boat. It's your choice what you choose to believe.

I asked you a simple question on your other mention, but you couldn't even come up with a coherent answer. It's obvious who is "whyning themselves"

DeepSight:


I have no doubt that you would defend Israel if they sold your family into slavery.
You are the lowest of the low of human beings, a vile, demented enslaved amoral pervert who is a shame to the name and body of Christ.

It just came to my mind to ask you this. In this conflict, do you think that the Palestinians (not only Hamas) have done any wrong or is it all Israel's fault? I am taking of since 1948.

Krismas:
U and Israel know NOTHING about Hamas tunnels. Some of those tunnels have railway train tracks. Some are so deep like 4storeys into the ground. Fully air-conditioned. Why was Israel not able to flood the tunnels with sea water as they boasted? Israel claim there are 50tunnels into Egypt. Lie lie as usual. Israel does not know where the tunnels are. Some of tunnels even lead inside Israel itself. It’s very possible Hamas is getting from inside Israel as we speak. Israel know they cannever defeat Hamas. So stop wasting ur breath

I refuse to believe you are the one saying this. Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

A beg no let me pee for body

unity004:
I mean if Israel can defeat arab nations, they are capable of taming terrorism

Sure they will, it will just take time

Originalsly:


The question asked for a yes/no answer.

Then your question is unrelated and illogical.

Hopeless terrorist supporter

Obaranje:
you sound mentally ill. So in an event of war, those who left the comfort of their home and make your home the battle ground are the ones that will be begging for the war to stop?

They can go back to their home when and however they want, make love to their wife's comfortably, and play with their kids and return back to your home to continue the war

In your house if they want they can sleep with your wife's, daughters, sisters, mothers and you can do nada

Deprive you of your comfort and community life. You open the gutter you called mouth that such person will be begging to go instead of the deprived.

If you know what war is only then you will understand what the people of gaza are going through, thus you will not be making all this unguided statement

The Palestiner people should save themselves from Israeli army by mountain pressure on Hamas

As this war is going they might not survive this for long. Israel has gone on rampage and are not ready to stop.

Dey here dey yawn opata.

U are daft, that’s ur prob. Did America not occupy Afghanistan for 20yrs? Did they not beg wen they were leaving? Or wot rubbish are u saying? For 10yrs did America not occupy Vietnam? Did they not kill 3 million innocent civilians? Did they win? Is occupying and killing civilians the way to military victory? Keep talking nonsense. Israel is the one who is feeling the pinch of losing its military men and equipment on daily basis. Israel will beg las las. The useless genocide nation

Freestar:



Lol. Suit yourself. Whatever rocks you boat. It's your choice what you choose to believe.

I asked you a simple question on your other mention, but you couldn't even come up with a coherent answer. It's obvious who is "whyning themselves"

I will still ask you again and again.

All 36,000 people killed are they all civilians no fighters among them?

Who makes this count?

Obaranje:
I refuse to believe you are the one saying this. Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha

A beg no let me pee for body

u know, I have told u be4, u don’t know anything. Israel can’t defeat Hamas. Israel can’t figure out Hamas tunnel network or stop Hamas ammunitions.
All the special experts from America and Britain Israel hired to do this have all been killed by Hamas in the tunnels. American SEALs have been killed by Hamas in those tunnels. U need to forget all this ur ignorant analysis of the Gaza war

Goyims never learned anything from over 400 years of African slave history. See as they are supporting modern slave master (Israel).

Obaranje:
I will still ask you again and again.

All 36,000 people killed are they all civilians no fighters among them?

Who makes this count?

the bombings were all in civilian residence. Hamas lives in the tunnels.
All 36k killed are all civilians.
Or how can u assume the civilians u just bombed are Hamas? Is dat not foolishness

DMerciful:
You're not a Christian

because i no like obi, i swear to God i be christian

nawa for you o

DMerciful:
You're not a Christian

or you mean a christian is forgiven, no, a terrorist must die

Obaranje:
I will still ask you again and again.

All 36,000 people killed are they all civilians no fighters among them?

Who makes this count?

There's a world body called the United Nations.... Are you familiar with it? Or is it only the propaganda from Israel and the US you consume as news about the whole conflict?

tctrills:

It just came to my mind to ask you this. In this conflict, do you think that the Palestinians (not only Hamas) have done any wrong or is it all Israel's fault? I am taking of since 1948.

Now you want to blame an entire people for their oppression.

Tell me what black South Africans did wrong to suffer apartheid. Tell me what black Americans did wrong to suffer Jim Crow and Segregation.

Tell me what Mandela did wrong to be called a terrorist by Margaret Thatcher and kept on the US terrorism watchlist till 2008.

Which people will not fight back when cornered and violently repressed by another group?

And when they fight back, the only thing the oppressor does is to criminalize their fight back by tagging it terrorism.

And being the bankrupt, slavish creature you are, you join them to chorus that.

You hear every day "Israel has a right to defend itself."

Why do you never hear "Palestine has a right to defend itself?"

Are they less than human?

Israelterrorist:
I don't know why the Muslim countries keep looking and watch the Zionist over run and kill the Palestine to take their land, the evil Jews are less than 10 million people, Saudi Arabia could destroy them in two days, I don't know why they are keeping quiet, our brothers are being killed unjustly.
I know the Zionist shall pay for their sins. I condemned the Zionist and their supporters, they shall die miserable death. I strongly condemn this injustice.

"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both"

Shey, you don't know the way to the airport ni? Quietly board a plane and go to Palestine to fight instead of making a ruckus on this forum. Nairaland is not an Islamic platform.

Krismas:
U are daft, that’s ur prob. Did America not occupy Afghanistan for 20yrs? Did they not beg wen they were leaving? Or wot rubbish are u saying? For 10yrs did America not occupy Vietnam? Did they not kill 3 million innocent civilians? Did they win? Is occupying and killing civilians the way to military victory? Keep talking nonsense. Israel is the one who is feeling the pinch of losing its military men and equipment on daily basis. Israel will beg las las. The useless genocide nation

like I said before you are mentally ill.

What is the proximity between America and Afghanistan?

What is the proximity between Israel and Gaza

I told you before now, that an Israeli army on free pass can rush back home within a short while make love to his wife rush back to Gaza without spending much

This is to tell you how close the both country are. They don't need a base in Jordan or Egypt to sustain the war like America did in Afghanistan

I don't think Israeli jet burns up to 5 litres of fuel before getting to any of it destination to drop bombs, same with their tanks

Wherever they conquer they built settlement.

Instead of Israel to run out of Gaza, they will build settlement in all of Gaza after the war

Israel is fighting for her existence among the Arab nations, America was fighting for democracy far from home

Only if you know the small dot Israel started with before this their current size you will never have made this statement

In all I pity for the Palestiners, I am a realist not an emotional fanatics neither am I a martyr.

This two goals are not the same.

Freestar:


Lolz. First and foremost, lets not use slurs, okay? I didn't use any slurs on your father, so you can jolly well make your own point without making slurs. Don't be that guy who has no regards for his father.

Now we are talking about contemporary history, and you are talking about biblical history, your knowledge of which is obviously flawed. Okay. I'll humor you. Who are the Palestinians? The original Palestinians? The original occupiers of what is today Palestine and the land of Israel? The Philistines.

So in talking about the Biblical time of David, u are talking about Canaan and the land to it's east, towards the red sea. So who were the original occupiers of this land? The Philistines. So your logic falls short.

Now let me make my point. You mention the Palestinians today as Arabs. But who are Arabs and who are Jews? Both descendants of Ishmael and Isaac respectively. And who are these two descendants of? Abraham. So we all, including you and me, the modern day Israelis who are either originally Palestinian or resettled from all over the the world (after the second world war) and the Palestinians most of whom who can trace their heritage in Palestine all the way back, sometimes, 10 generations are descendants of Abraham.

Hence I make the case that:

1. Once we separate the politically formed state of Israel which is a mere political contraption of a handful of individuals, from what it means to be a Jew, a Christian or a muslim living in the geographical space called Israel or Gaza or the west bank, there is no need for all the needless killing and genocide that has been going on since the state of Israel was formed in 1948.

2. Since we are all descendants of Abraham, the ancestor of both Christianity and Islam and Judaism and by inference the first Jew, we are all Jews wether we know it or not (yes, including your Arabs).

So why should one Jew, feeling superior to another pick up arms to try to exterminate another Jew? The answer? Zionism. Which in essence is a form of racism, or colonialism - The belief that one Jew or one race is superior to every other.

That is the crux of the matter today. Please get that right.

Dude, it's a question.
Sorry if you felt offended.

Krismas:
u know, I have told u be4, u don’t know anything. Israel can’t defeat Hamas. Israel can’t figure out Hamas tunnel network or stop Hamas ammunitions.
All the special experts from America and Britain Israel hired to do this have all been killed by Hamas in the tunnels. American SEALs have been killed by Hamas in those tunnels. U need to forget all this ur ignorant analysis of the Gaza war

hahahaha 🤣 hahahaha hahahaha Bros you know what? You are actually making my day with all this laughter

I will advise you join comedy line, you will do very well there.

Krismas:
the bombings were all in civilian residence. Hamas lives in the tunnels.
All 36k killed are all civilians.
Or how can u assume the civilians u just bombed are Hamas? Is dat not foolishness

God Bless you for this. If anyone is taking about who doesn't have the balls to face who, it's actually netanyahu and the IDF.

They don't have the balls to go into the tunnels to meet their mates but they can bomb the whole Gaza strip upandan, from the north to the south and back to the North killing civilians in their homes and in UN run shelters and hospitals, yet they are too ashamed to ask themselves how come they have swept the whole strip twice, levelled the whole place yet they haven't uncovered the more than 120 hostages that are still missing.

They are simply too ashamed and too afraid to admit that they don't have the cojonès to go into the tunnels and fight like men. With all the superior firepower that they have, instead taking their vengeance out on hapless men women and children in refugee camps.

Krismas:
the bombings were all in civilian residence. Hamas lives in the tunnels.
All 36k killed are all civilians.
Or how can u assume the civilians u just bombed are Hamas? Is dat not foolishness

really!!!!!

Obaranje:
really!!!!!

Get that !! Joke is one you!!

lauzun:


Dude, it's a question.
Sorry if you felt offended.

It's alright, man. No offense taken.

The future of Nigeria is not that bright. Majority of people commenting on Israel/Palestinian conflict are 50 years and below which Nigerian govt considers "youths".

There is a clear distinction between Western youths and African youths. Western youths do their research and make informed decision and cut ties from long-standing view sold to them by their govt. This is why western govts are trying to ban tiktok because youths have overwhelmingly seen through what Isræl truly is.

But African youths (Christians basically) do no research, have no knowledge about history probably because history was removed from schools. University students across America have been protesting against Israel's genocide in Gaza and this Saturday, we are having a huge protest in Washington DC again against Israel. But students and youths in Nigeria are supporting genocide. Nigerian youths can not think beyond religion "the Bible says" just because Israel is mentioned in the Bible. That's why they don't think beyond Oct 7.

We can see clear difference between civilized youths and religious slowpoke youths in Africa. In America, it is the old generation that are supporting Israel. .

Freestar:


There's a world body called the United Nations.... Are you familiar with it? Or is it only the propaganda from Israel and the US you consume as news about the whole conflict?

I don't think you are up to date in this war.

Now let me help you

Hamas Media control agency that gives the count, now tell me how can such agency seeking for international sympathy gives an accurate figure if not hoax?

Obaranje:
like I said before you are mentally ill.

What is the proximity between America and Afghanistan?

What is the proximity between Israel and Gaza

I told you before now, that an Israeli army on free pass can rush back home within a short while make love to his wife rush back to Gaza without spending much

This is to tell you how close the both country are. They don't need a base in Jordan or Egypt to sustain the war like America did in Afghanistan

I don't think Israeli jet burns up to 5 litres of fuel before getting to any of it destination to drop bombs, same with their tanks

Wherever they conquer they built settlement.

Instead of Israel to run out of Gaza, they will build settlement in all of Gaza after the war

Israel is fighting for her existence among the Arab nations, America was fighting for democracy far from home

Only if you know the small dot Israel started with before this their current size you will never have made this statement

In all I pity for the Palestiners, I am a realist not an emotional fanatics neither am I a martyr.

This two goals are not the same.

U be Mumu. Honest truth. For one, it’s absolutely a LIE, that an IDF can leave his position and go home, cos it’s close by.
It’s also a big lie that America operated their planes far away from Afghanistan. Do u know how many bases America have in those areas? Why do u keep talking nonsense?
If Israel is fighting for her existence, is dat why they are losing soldiers on a daily basis in exchange for civilians in Gaza, who have no military value? Is dat not same as fighting for ur DESTRUCTION?
Israel only hope is that America will come to her rescue in the event of any serious war. Cos right now, Israel is almost under. Israel can’t even go up against hezbollah who killed over 24 IDF yesterday and burnt up all their towns in the north. Yesterday alone, 120k Israeli refugees fled the Golan heights. Israel is too embarrassed to even talk about those things. Hamas have slaughtered so many IDF, that fresh mobilization is a headache for Israel. Israel is losing. That is d fact. Slaughter civilians from now till forever, Israel can’t prevail as long as Hamas is alive

Obaranje:
really!!!!!

ask urself, how does Israel select targets for bombing? Thru AI Lavender
It does social media profiling. Anyone who has ever like Hamas post, commented positively or share similar name to a known Hamas member, is automatically Hamas member. How stupid can dat be?
This is how Israel wants to defeat Hamas?
Killing civilians have never guaranteed military victory. They just wasting their bombs, the 60billion USD they used so far and all the IDF dying everyday since Oct7

Israel my Israel!! All we dey hear u say everytime you bombed small pikins and women is that Hamas fighters are hiding among them and using them as shield. But the corpse after each bombing na dat of children and women. Hamas fighters' bodies no dey ever dey among . Keep lying

Freestar:


Get that !! Joke is one you!!

see how Hamas terrorist take these one head dey play jongba

DeepSight:


Now you want to blame an entire people for their oppression.

Tell me what black South Africans did wrong to suffer apartheid. Tell me what black Americans did wrong to suffer Jim Crow and Segregation.

Tell me what Mandela did wrong to be called a terrorist by Margaret Thatcher and kept on the US terrorism watchlist till 2008.

Which people will not fight back when cornered and violently repressed by another group?

And when they fight back, the only thing the oppressor does is to criminalize their fight back by tagging it terrorism.

And being the bankrupt, slavish creature you are, you join them to chorus that.

You hear every day "Israel has a right to defend itself."

Why do you never hear "Palestine has a right to defend itself?"

Are they less than human?

Black South Africans did nothing wrong. Mandela did nothing wrong.
Now can you say the same of the Palestinians? That's my question?