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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 2:54pm On Jun 11
charlesemeka85:
the deed hv been done already. He should be sacked
He should be sacked when many here was shouting the finidi is no good enough for SE, you turned it to Apc, PDP banter.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:07pm On Jun 11
Katcall:
Siasia is the man for the job. Let's rally round him

Please support Amunike.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:12pm On Jun 11
lbrichman2:


Dollars or Naira??
No be only dollars na bitcoin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:17pm On Jun 11
Goke7:
And for attacking football pundits here, I have a word for you, playing within Africa requires you to go for the grind when it matters most, if we qualify for the World Cup then you can experiment with all those Guardiola formations when you play with other teams from other continents but within this Africa, you have to play dirty to get your way through. During the Afcon final, the Ivorians kicked our players almost through the first half, when they realized our players were tired according to their coach then they started slicing through our team with their sexy football. Even in the afcon semi final, the Southies always went for the injured stomach of osihmen when he was in flight to weaken him and even Ekong had to take a card for the team to break the counter of the Southies in one instance.

During friendlies, we can experiment with formation or no formation according to our coach but in competitive matches, you have to go for the win or result in whatever circumstances. We need ruthlessness, packing the bus, jam bodi or whatever. A win is a win and that's what matters most. Is it not a shame that foreign coaches understand this better than our local coaches? Enough said.

People once thought Guardiola's football won't work in England. Same mentality you are showing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:20pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


People once thought Guardiola's football won't work in England. Same mentality you are showing.

we can't be toying with the future of our football because of experiments, that's why you have friendlies
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:23pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


we can't be toying with the future of our football because of experiments, that's why you have friendlies

Toying with future of our football is allowing negativity rule us for so long.

We need to roll our sleeves and start working. All that negative football has made it difficult for us to even know good players.

See how Peseiro kept Onyedika on the bench the whole Afcon and played Iwobi off position and he looked a shadow of himself.

When we are ready for tactical and sound man management techniques and player development, and intelligent scouting and grooming methods, we will grow and get serious with our football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:31pm On Jun 11
Odunayaw:
Na you know why you daft enough to keep avoiding the question if Tanimu did good or not. Seems you're too thick to understand no one is arguing with you if there we better players to be called up.

I hyped Sodiq? Bring receipt make you shame me if not stop urinating on my mentions
The inclusion of Taminu in that defense line up automatically disrupted our defense system which affected players like Bassy and no so good Ajayi,
it does not matter whether he struggled to impress or not.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 3:34pm On Jun 11
Goke7:
And for attacking football pundits here, I have a word for you, playing within Africa requires you to go for the grind when it matters most, if we qualify for the World Cup then you can experiment with all those Guardiola formations when you play with other teams from other continents but within this Africa, you have to play dirty to get your way through. During the Afcon final, the Ivorians kicked our players almost through the first half, when they realized our players were tired according to their coach then they started slicing through our team with their sexy football. Even in the afcon semi final, the Southies always went for the injured stomach of osihmen when he was in flight to weaken him and even Ekong had to take a card for the team to break the counter of the Southies in one instance.

During friendlies, we can experiment with formation or no formation according to our coach but in competitive matches, you have to go for the win or result in whatever circumstances. We need ruthlessness, packing the bus, jam bodi or whatever. A win is a win and that's what matters most. Is it not a shame that foreign coaches understand this better than our local coaches? Enough said.

Blue font, shey you don hear? grin tongue
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by poshemmanuel(m): 3:40pm On Jun 11
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:42pm On Jun 11
semid4lyfe:


Blue font, shey you don hear? grin tongue


Nigeria will grow when we are ready to grow in football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:42pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Can Finidi win us our remaining 6 matches? Na the koko question.

Finidi is not capable of winning 2 out of 6 remaining matches especially with this same mentality and attitude.

And I'm almost certain that Osimhen won't be available for half of the remaining matches.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Idiko1: 3:45pm On Jun 11
Is there anything good about Nigeria?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by semid4lyfe(m): 3:47pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


Toying with future of our football is allowing negativity rule us for so long.

We need to roll our sleeves and start working. All that negative football has made it difficult for us to even know good players.

See how Peseiro kept Onyedika on the bench the whole Afcon and played Iwobi off position and he looked a shadow of himself.

When we are ready for tactical and sound man management techniques and player development, and intelligent scouting and grooming methods, we will grow and get serious with our football.

Oga rest. Even Guardiola wouldn't be able to replicate his tiki-taka suffocating possession playing style with the Super Eagles.

You know why?

1. Our players don't have it in their DNA.

2. Our players are bang average with the exception of maybe 1 or 2.

3,. Our players don't have the stamina and the work ethic to impose that kind of suffocating pressure on their opponents.

4. That kind of style requires months/years of continuous training to master, time which is not available in national team football.

You need to be realistic and pragmatic, and stop building castles in the sky with this your fantasy of tiki-taka possession based football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 3:50pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


Toying with future of our football is allowing negativity rule us for so long.

We need to roll our sleeves and start working. All that negative football has made it difficult for us to even know good players.

See how Peseiro kept Onyedika on the bench the whole Afcon and played Iwobi off position and he looked a shadow of himself.

When we are ready for tactical and sound man management techniques and player development, and intelligent scouting and grooming methods, we will grow and get serious with our football.

and where has the onyedika taken us now? so you prefer to play eye-catching football and lose for the first time in a senior competition to Benin? common I feel you mix club football with national team football. Since Spain adopted Tiki Taka have they been winning the Euro or World Cup every four years?

What some of us call negative football is just fiction of imagination. National team football is pride, club football is business and entertainment, mixing the two can be complicated and even talking about club football, what is even the eye-catching football that real Madrid plays that they keep winning the champs league like their birth right. It doesn't add up jare.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 3:50pm On Jun 11
mostob:
Make una clam.dowm, Nigeria will still qualify for world cup. We will qualify..I'm 100% sure. Anybody wan bet?

It is just that I don't know which of the world cup we will qualify for.
If u r 100% sure,why not rush to bet9ja and stake your life savings on Nigeria to qualify and make yourself some cool money
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 3:57pm On Jun 11
Odunayaw:



But fact of life is that there is only two outcomes whoever you appoint. Abi no be Mancini no fit carry Italy over North Macedonia (a country that I only heard of in the Bible before the match)

If na JPes gather two draws again, are you saying you would have pat him? Na fear of choice de paralyze person pass.

I think we have AfconQ in between now and the next WCQ fixtures? If na new hand we de hire, now is our chance or else na miracles we go expect and then cry if e no sup

The hindsight that need become foresight is that no foreign coach has been exempt from huge criticism. From Jo Bonfrere days to Rohr and Jpes(before he gather small sense wey don make us forget as he carry us go final). So that alone is enough reason for anyone to put noise on any local coach coming to do lab scientist here. We don't have luxury of Time. I think only Equavoen is the local coach that had time against him and he did something as regards structure. The rest always wants time while doing crap. If we see some sense of structure, many will lean back. Finidi lacks everything here plus acts like he doesn't know what's at stake.

Now the way we rem Jpes is about final. That's how events do wrt history. Jpes didn't enjoy any patting, esp here na.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:06pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


and where has the onyedika taken us now? so you prefer to play eye-catching football and lose for the first time in a senior competition to Benin? common I feel you mix club football with national team football. Since Spain adopted Tiki Taka have they been winning the Euro or World Cup every four years?

What some of us call negative football is just fiction of imagination. National team football is pride, club football is business and entertainment, mixing the two can be complicated and even talking about club football, what is even the eye-catching football that real Madrid plays that they keep winning the champs league like their birth right. It doesn't add up jare.

Story. Spain are the current Nations League champions. Europe and World Cup is not beans. They have tried. You still have the likes of Germany, Italy, Belgium, England to deal with. Spain have been a consistent contender for titles. Not only just in senior football but even junior levels.

Unfortunately, I missed yesterday's game, was too tied down, so I can't analyze it but a tree does not make a forest but it is a start.

What I am saying is that we were stagnant under Rohr and Peseiro and that gives no pride.

We need to fix our midfield. We need to fix our build up play. We need to work towards dominating possessive play and sorry, I am not seeing it in Finidi. I hope he can sort this out fast.

However, that terrible show that you call pride football is negative and will take us nowhere.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:10pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


Story. Spain are the current Nations League champions. Europe and World Cup is not beans. They have tried. You still have the likes of Germany, Italy, Belgium, England to deal with. Spain have been a consistent contender for titles. Not only just in senior football but even junior levels.

Unfortunately, I missed yesterday's game, was too tied down, so I can't analyze it but a tree does not make a forest but it is a start.

What I am saying is that we were stagnant under Rohr and Peseiro and that gives no pride.

We need to fix our midfield. We need to fix our build up play. We need to work towards dominating possessive play and sorry, I am not seeing it in Finidi. I hope he can sort this out fast.

However, that terrible show that you call pride football is negative and will take us nowhere.

oh really? grin sorry club football and national team football cannot mix, end of story.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:22pm On Jun 11
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 4:24pm On Jun 11
semid4lyfe:


Oga rest. Even Guardiola wouldn't be able to replicate his tiki-taka suffocating possession playing style with the Super Eagles.

You know why?

1. Our players don't have it in their DNA.

2. [/b]Our players are bang average with the exception of maybe 1 or 2.[b]

3,. Our players don't have the stamina and the work ethic to impose that kind of suffocating pressure on their opponents.

4. That kind of style requires months/years of continuous training to master, time which is not available in national team football.

You need to be realistic and pragmatic, and stop building castles in the sky with this your fantasy of tiki-taka possession based football.

The bolded is the sad truth none of us ever wants to admit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:26pm On Jun 11
semid4lyfe:


Oga rest. Even Guardiola wouldn't be able to replicate his tiki-taka suffocating possession playing style with the Super Eagles.

You know why?

1. Our players don't have it in their DNA.

2. Our players are bang average with the exception of maybe 1 or 2.

3,. Our players don't have the stamina and the work ethic to impose that kind of suffocating pressure on their opponents.

4. That kind of style requires months/years of continuous training to master, time which is not available in national team football.

You need to be realistic and pragmatic, and stop building castles in the sky with this your fantasy of tiki-taka possession based football.

First of all, if Guardiola is the coach of Super Eagles, by his second game, we would be playing pure possession football.

When he took over Manchester City, it took him less than a month to change our playing Philosophy.

When Tuchel took over Chelsea, he totally transformed their playing pattern in two training sessions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:30pm On Jun 11
semid4lyfe:


Oga rest. Even Guardiola wouldn't be able to replicate his tiki-taka suffocating possession playing style with the Super Eagles.

You know why?

1. Our players don't have it in their DNA.

2. Our players are bang average with the exception of maybe 1 or 2.

3,. Our players don't have the stamina and the work ethic to impose that kind of suffocating pressure on their opponents.

4. That kind of style requires months/years of continuous training to master, time which is not available in national team football.

You need to be realistic and pragmatic, and stop building castles in the sky with this your fantasy of tiki-taka possession based football.

The reason why we look bang average is because our development approach has been bang average. We have employed coaches with limited philosophies and their approach have kept us on a low level.

It is not true we lack the possessive play DNA. Over the years, we have churned players with marvelous footballing IQ. Good examples are Oliseh, Mikel Obi and Celestine Babayaro.

The draw back is poor coaches with horrendous selection policies.

Like I pointed Rohr and Peseiro overlooking Onyedika for years. Despite him having the "DNA" you are trying to claim we don't have.

With the right approach, more honest and thorough scouting, we can build a team of players with the right DNA.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:31pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


oh really? grin sorry club football and national team football cannot mix, end of story.

From your perspective. We have had club coaches move over to national football and doing well. Blows big hole in your theory.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:32pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

If u r 100% sure,why not rush to bet9ja and stake your life savings on Nigeria to qualify and make yourself some cool money
Read that post again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 4:33pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


First of all, if Guardiola is the coach of Manchester City, by his second game, we would be playing pure possession football.

When he took over Manchester City, it took him less than a month to change our playing Philosophy.

When Tuchel took over Chelsea, he totally transformed their playing pattern in two training sessions.

Stop the cap 🧢 now you’re just yapping like every average joes in this group all for the sake of talk

You forget that city has the best facility in the country world class athletes in tip top shape, they were wining comfortably before he came

We don’t even have a gym or a Cadio area and you’re talking about tiki taka

Have you sat and watch our training do you see how poor our physios are ??

Signing guardiola won’t be enough we need to shell out billions to build even a semi world class facility for our team

No be to play 2 aside and call it training
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:35pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


From your perspective. We have had club coaches move over to national football and doing well. Blows big hole in your theory.

you are the one who said Spain has tried na, let Pep move to a national team, and let's see how many trophies he will win
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:37pm On Jun 11
typicalgamer:


Stop the cap 🧢 now you’re just yapping like every average joes in this group all for the sake of talk

You forget that city has the best facility in the country world class athletes in tip top shape, they were wining comfortably before he came

We don’t even have a gym or a Cadio area and you’re talking about tiki taka

Have you sat and watch our training do you see how poor our physios are ??

Signing guardiola won’t be enough we need to shell out billions to build even a semi world class facility for our team

No be to play 2 aside and call it training

All those do not equate to transforming a teams playing philosophy in less than a month. Same with Tuchel who used two training sessions to achieve.

The fact is that with the right coach, in two international windows, we can at least play a good possession game and with nice fluidity.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:38pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


you are the one who said Spain has tried na, let Pep move to a national team, and let's see how many trophies he will win

Guardiola will kill it. That one is not even a topic. That national team will play breathtaking football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:39pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


All those do not equate to transforming a teams playing philosophy in less than a month. Same with Tuchel who used two training sessions to achieve.

The fact is that with the right coach, in two international windows, we can at least play a good possession game and with nice fluidity.

and concede cheap silly goals without enough goals to show smh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:43pm On Jun 11
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:44pm On Jun 11
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:57pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


and concede cheap silly goals without enough goals to show smh

If you try to understand the philosophy, you will not make such statement.

Possession football results in right positioning, defending as a unit, and cutting down the amount of time the opposition can attack. This reducing conceding silly goals.

Finito.

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