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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 4:57pm On Jun 11
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 4:58pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


All those do not equate to transforming a teams playing philosophy in less than a month. Same with Tuchel who used two training sessions to achieve.

The fact is that with the right coach, in two international windows, we can at least play a good possession game and with nice fluidity.


Sorry to have quoted you I thought you were different from the rest

Seems youā€™re more delusional than them


Physio are not important

Proper diet and nutritional needs are nor important

Proper training facilities are not important

A coach would suddenly make all the players play well and in turn very healthy to execute the coach plan on the field

Bro youā€™re worse than them Iā€™m sorry to say this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:59pm On Jun 11
typicalgamer:



Sorry to have quoted you I thought you were different from the rest

Seems youā€™re more delusional than them


Physio are not important

Proper diet and nutritional needs are nor important

Proper training facilities are not important

A coach would suddenly make all the players play well and in turn very healthy to execute the coach plan on the field

Bro youā€™re worse than them Iā€™m sorry to say this

After calling me delusional, are you saying Finidi or Eguavoen or Rohr etc did not have dietician and physio. Please.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:00pm On Jun 11
The NPFL Sanctions on Enyimba.

1. A fine of One Million Naira only (N1,000,000) for failing to ensure the proper conduct of your team.

2. A fine of Five Million Naira only (N5,000,000) for disrupting a live broadcast.

3. A fine of One Million Naira only (N1,000,000) for throwing of objects unto the field of play.

4. A fine of One Million Naira only (N1,000,000) for encroachment unto the Ļield of play

5. An order forfeiting 3 points and 3 goals in favour of your opponent refusing to allow the penalty awarded in favour of your opponents to be taken, thereby disrupting the match and bringing the game to disrepute.

6. A fine of Two Million Naira only (N2,000,000) for causing the disruption and discontinuation of the match.

7. An order for Enyimba to identify and produce for further investigation and appropriate sanctions, other players and officals complicit in the disruptive conducts (particularly against the match ofĻicials) that led to a discontinuation of the game, in addition to the following identiĻied players; Eze Ekwutoziam (Jersey No.6), Chibuike Nwaiwu (Jersey No.27), and Akanni Elijah (Jersey No.10).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:01pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


If you try to understand the philosophy, you will not make such statement.

Possession football results in right positioning, defending as a unit, and cutting down the amount of time the opposition can attack. This reducing conceding silly goals.

Finito.

You have been told we don't have the personnel for it except you want to manufacture the players yourself which cannot happen in a national team setting like Nigeria. By the time we are done trying even Nations Cup, we won't qualify
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:03pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


You have been told we don't have the personnel for it except you want to manufacture the players yourself which cannot happen in a national team setting like Nigeria. By the time we are done trying even Nations Cup, we won't qualify

I have told you with more deligent scouting, we can find the right personnel. It is not by folding arms and expecting Real Madrid and Manchester City to build personnel for us.

We have to take scouting seriously and also develop the right template to fit them.

Onyedika is a good example how the right personnel can be overlooked and it will seem they don't exist.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:03pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

If u r 100% sure,why not rush to bet9ja and stake your life savings on Nigeria to qualify and make yourself some cool money
You didn't understand his post cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 5:05pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

The inclusion of Taminu in that defense line up automatically disrupted our defense system which affected players like Bassy and no so good Ajayi,
it does not matter whether he struggled to impress or not.
Then you throw stones at Finidi and not mock Tanimu

Why logic con hard like this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 5:07pm On Jun 11
mostob:
Read that post again.
I didn't finish reading before rushing to post like Komekn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:07pm On Jun 11
#Opponent watch

1' South Africa 1 Zimbabwe 0

2' South Africa 1 Zimbabwe 1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:10pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:
I didn't finish reading before rushing to post like Komekn
It is ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:10pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


I have told you with more deligent scouting, we can find the right personnel. It is not by folding arms and expecting Real Madrid and Manchester City to build personnel for us.

We have to take scouting seriously and also develop the right template to fit them.

Onyedika is a good example how the right personnel can be overlooked and it will seem they don't exist.

Finito.

By the time we are done scouting, we would have missed out on several editions of nations cup and world cup. See I understand your drift but you know in today's National football setting in sub-Saharan Africa it's not possible and I think that's where some of us are coming from. The logistics of having European-based players reporting to camp in Africa for national duty doesn't suit your approach. The days Westerhof can camp players in his hotel in Holland for several days are over. You can't even have your players in camp for up to a week to any National competition or any match even friendly sef.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 5:10pm On Jun 11
mostob:
#Opponent watch

1' South Africa 1 Zimbabwe 0

2' South Africa 1 Zimbabwe 1
Dem no allow south Africa supporters sit down sef. I shock when I see Zimbabwe equalize and na 2 mins for Twitter.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 5:13pm On Jun 11
Odunayaw:
Then you throw stones at Finidi and not mock Tanimu

Why logic con hard like this
I'm not mocking Tanimu nor anyone, is Finidi that I'm blaming for his questionable call ups
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:14pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


By the time we are done scouting, we would have missed out on several editions of nations cup and world cup. See I understand your drift but you know in today's National football setting in sub-Saharan Africa it's not possible and I think that's where some of us are coming from. The logistics of having European-based players reporting to camp in Africa for national duty doesn't suit your approach. The days Westerhof can camp players in his hotel in Holland for several days are over. You can't even have your players in camp for up to a week to any National competition or any match even friendly sef.

That is why the coach has to start with the basics. Use what you have at your disposal and select the best that can keep the ball naturally.

Train them to keep the ball.

Select the best goalkeeper amongst the ones you have that is good with his feet and can equally save.

Include players that their teams share a similar philosophy.

Then build from there. The program will run from window to window.

Performance will improve and with time good results will come.

Far better than working with negative ideas that keep us stagnant for years.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 5:16pm On Jun 11
If you want to sack Finidi, sack him now. We have a full round of AFCONQ for the rest of 2024 so if you want a new coach, get one now before AFCONQ start in September. Next round of CAF WCQ will be in March 2025. That should be at least 6-8 games the new coach would have with the team before next round of WCQ.

Right now we should just hope all our opponent matches end in draws. It will leave us 4pts off the top. In a bad situation but by no means is it finished

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:21pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


That is why the coach has to start with the basics. Use what you have at your disposal and select the best that can keep the ball naturally.

Train them to keep the ball.

Select the best goalkeeper amongst the ones you have that is good with his feet and can equally save.

Include players that their teams share a similar philosophy.

Then build from there. The program will run from window to window.

Performance will improve and with time good results will come.

Far better than working with negative ideas that keep us stagnant for years.

we cannot be training so-called European professionals on how to keep the ball na, it means we don't even have the players and that's where the problem lies in this philosophy that we have mentioned before, the materials are lacking.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:21pm On Jun 11
None of the teams in our group is not susceptible to slipping at some point down the road. We just need a 100% record for our remaining matches and we will have a chance. We have the players at least, but can we pull it off?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:24pm On Jun 11
Itā€™s a discipline issue. Even at their clubs they could do the same but lose their position etc. we need to run this SE like serious business and with high degree of professionalism. Inviting players that have no business in the team is in itself another distraction.

Goke7:


we cannot be training so-called European professionals on how to keep the ball na, it means we don't even have the players and that's where the problem lies in this philosophy that we have mentioned before, the materials are lacking.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 5:27pm On Jun 11
Amedino99:
Dem no allow south Africa supporters sit down sef. I shock when I see Zimbabwe equalize and na 2 mins for Twitter.
It is shocking. This is sad to say but so far so good, the two results that matter are going well. Draws in both match.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:29pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Itā€™s a discipline issue. Even at their clubs they could do the same but lose their position etc. we need to run this SE like serious business and with high degree of professionalism. Inviting players that have no business in the team is in itself another distraction.


but na we go shout if coach drop player wey we like o!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 5:31pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

I'm not mocking Tanimu nor anyone, is Finidi that I'm blaming for his questionable call ups
Gbam. Charles sha wan mud Tanimu and na that one I resist.

Finidi set himself up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:33pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


we cannot be training so-called European professionals on how to keep the ball na, it means we don't even have the players and that's where the problem lies in this philosophy that we have mentioned before, the materials are lacking.

Manchester City had Pro players and Guardiola trained them on how to keep the ball. Chelsea had pro players and Tuchel thought them how to keep the ball.

In Guardiola's first training session with Manchester City players, he thought them how to pass the ball.

When Guardiola signed Douglas Costa to Bayern Munich, the first thing he told him on the training pitch is that, are you ready to learn how to play football.

Pure possessive football is footballing education.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 5:33pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola will kill it. That one is not even a topic. That national team will play breathtaking football.
It depends which country.

In Africa, it's possible with few countries like Nigeria, Senegal,CIV,Egypt. vs other African countries.

In Europe and South America,
Spain,France,Holland, Italy,Germany ,Brazil and Argentina.

Even with Pep,England is not likely to dominate the rest of the world
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 5:35pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
None of the teams in our group is not susceptible to slipping at some point down the road. We just need a 100% record for our remaining matches and we will have a chance. We have the players at least, but can we pull it off?
It takes a coach with a win at all cost mentality actually and where we go find am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:37pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

It depends which country.

In Africa, it's possible with few countries like Nigeria, Senegal,CIV,Egypt. vs other African countries.

In Europe and South America,
Spain,France,Holland, Italy,Germany ,Brazil and Argentina.

Even with Pep,England is not likely to dominate the rest of the world

If Pep Guardiola holds England, they will dominate wholly. I have pointed England as a funny case, where their best players train under high grade coaches and get coached by Garrett Southgate who will never cut it in the EPL. That is the problem. With a coach like Pep, they will fly.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:40pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


Manchester City had Pro players and Guardiola trained them on how to keep the ball. Chelsea had pro players and Tuchel thought them how to keep the ball.

In Guardiola's first training session with Manchester City players, he thought them how to pass the ball.

When Guardiola signed Douglas Costa to Bayern Munich, the first thing he told him on the training pitch is that, are you ready to learn how to play football.

Pure possessive football is footballing education.

that's club football you're talking about, no national team coach in Africa except if he has more home-based players has that time to fine-tune any possession football. He can only expect his players to be professional in their approach. I heard Udeze saying in those days Amodu would tell him in match briefing by drawing a straight line on the board for him and tell him he should know what to do. in your own word, Finito!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:46pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


that's club football you're talking about, no national team coach in Africa except if he has more home-based players has that time to fine-tune any possession football. He can only expect his players to be professional in their approach. I heard Udeze saying in those days Amodu would tell him in match briefing by drawing a straight line on the board for him and tell him he should know what to do. in your own word, Finito!

That is why I said, such program would be tailored to the window. No one is to become Man City but the principles should grow in each transfer window.

One transfer window will be about the basics of keeping the ball.

Next tactical and positional insights.

Next defending as a unit.

And grow from there.

But from the first two windows, we must see a very clear identity and possessive play.

It can be done.

Five years down the line like we wasted with Rohr, we would have a sound possessive side that will terrify any side.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 5:47pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


If Pep Guardiola holds England, they will dominate wholly. I have pointed England as a funny case, where their best players train under high grade coaches and get coached by Garrett Southgate who will never cut it in the EPL. That is the problem. With a coach like Pep, they will fly.
England have been flying since.

what I really meant is ,dominate by winning world cup like Spain and France did,is not just winning some matches.

I know why I excluded England.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 5:48pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


After calling me delusional, are you saying Finidi or Eguavoen or Rohr etc did not have dietician and physio. Please.


Itā€™s clear for all to see who Iā€™m arguing with.

Sorry bros I forgot itā€™s only good engine that makes a car not body frame, or Aerodynamics

Have a good day sir
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:49pm On Jun 11
Napoleon55:

England have been flying since.

what I really meant is ,dominate by winning world cup like Spain and France did,is not just winning some matches.

I know why I excluded England.

My idea of flying is dominating and winning. I have never seen England as flying team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Katcall: 5:51pm On Jun 11
Zimbabwe and Lesotho doing eagles a favor. If you like don't pray

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