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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 5:51pm On Jun 11
The one saving grace is that our group has no clear strong team. If results hold, we’ll be 4pts off the top. Far far from ideal but we win the next 3 matches and we’ll be right at the top/near the top.

We have the players, but they have to play like a team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 5:55pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


That is why I said, such program would be tailored to the window. No one is to become Man City but the principles should grow in each transfer window.

One transfer window will be about the basics of keeping the ball.

Next tactical and positional insights.

Next defending as a unit.

And grow from there.

But from the first two windows, we must see a very clear identity and possessive play.

It can be done.

Five years down the line like we wasted with Rohr, we would have a sound possessive side that will terrify any side.

Finito.

With which players? We are better be humble. How many of our players are even in the top flight in Europe compared to even Senegal or even Ivory Coast. We got to be honest

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Katcall: 5:57pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


My idea of flying is dominating and winning. I have never seen England as flying team.
They have the capacity but lack the capability. England v France, 2022, England pressed and pressed. However, in the end, France won
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:58pm On Jun 11
The players know themselves. It’s not about the fans. It’s about instilling discipline and promoting excellence.

Goke7:


but na we go shout if coach drop player wey we like o!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:00pm On Jun 11
Katcall:
They have the capacity but lack the capability. England v France, 2022, England pressed and pressed. However, in the end, France won

I don't doubt the English capability, but I am not down with their overall playing style and do not see them dominating the game until they change their philosophy to meet with what the players are used to in their clubs. Especially the top players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:00pm On Jun 11
Yes it will be a gamble to keep Finidi. We need a coach with that mentality and who can instill it on the players. Anything else is still a gamble.

Odunayaw:
It takes a coach with a win at all cost mentality actually and where we go find am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 6:01pm On Jun 11
WCQ 2026

South Africa 1-1 Zimbabwe (HT)
Lesotho 0-1 Rwanda (HT)

Now grab your calculator. it is
Rwanda (8pts),
Benin (7pts),
Lesotho (5pts),
South Africa (5pts) ,
Zimbabwe (3pts),
Nigeria (3pts)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:02pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


With which players? We are better be humble. How many of our players are even in the top flight in Europe compared to even Senegal or even Ivory Coast. We got to be honest

You are missing the point. It is not a one way process but dynamic one. Scouting is a bit part of the process. Grooming is also it. The team has to keep growing and time will show. With time, playing the right way will have us having the materials to challenge any top side but we need to get serious and start.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:03pm On Jun 11
solonnachi:
WCQ 2026

South Africa 1-1 Zimbabwe (HT)
Lesotho 0-1 Rwanda (HT)

Now grab your calculator. it is
Rwanda (8pts),
Benin (7pts),
Lesotho (5pts),
South Africa (5pts) ,
Zimbabwe (3pts),
Nigeria (3pts)


Rwanda 7points

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:03pm On Jun 11
Well what is the mentally and attitude of Finidi.

There is a lot of factors to our bad performance, but I don’t get the attitude part.
Napoleon55:

Finidi is not capable of winning 2 out of 6 remaining matches especially with this same mentality and attitude.

And I'm almost certain that Osimhen won't be available for half of the remaining matches.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 6:04pm On Jun 11
This our group is just a mumu group, see as Lesotho is struggling against Rwanda, trailing 0-1🤦🏼…see SA and Zim playing 1-1…
I pray lesotho equalize and Zimbabwe wins😜🤪
Kai imagine 9ja was winning all games
By now we for don qualify with 6games to spare with all this mumu result im seeing

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:04pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
The players know themselves. It’s not about the fans. It’s about instilling discipline and promoting excellence.


The coaches that tried to instil the discipline and grind out the results we say they are playing negative football. We got to decide what we want
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Katcall: 6:06pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


You have been told we don't have the personnel for it except you want to manufacture the players yourself which cannot happen in a national team setting like Nigeria. By the time we are done trying even Nations Cup, we won't qualify
Beside the SE has never been a possessional team. They wait and let the opponent lose the ball and then they breakaway
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 6:07pm On Jun 11
current standing with ongoing play as @ 6:07pm 😅😀
Benin 7pts
Rwanda 7pts
Lesotho 5pts
SA 5pts
Nigeria 3pts
Zimbabwe 3pts
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 6:08pm On Jun 11
minfelix:
This our group is just a mumu group, see as Lesotho is struggling against Rwanda, trailing 0-1🤦🏼…see SA and Zim playing 1-1…
I pray lesotho equalize and Zimbabwe wins😜🤪
Kai imagine 9ja was winning all games
By now we for don qualify with 6games to spare with all this mumu result im seeing

Bro that is what I’m saying. There is no reason we should not be at minimum 10 pts. This is a group that we should have wrapped up by the 7th match day so we can now start experimenting with different line-ups and formations.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Katcall: 6:08pm On Jun 11
Rwanda has scored. 7 points and they go top
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 6:09pm On Jun 11
elyte89:



Rwanda 7points

Thanks bro. We are still within reach....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:09pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


You are missing the point. It is not a one way process but dynamic one. Scouting is a bit part of the process. Grooming is also it. The team has to keep growing and time will show. With time, playing the right way will have us having the materials to challenge any top side but we need to get serious and start.

Also remember we are not a patient nation when the results are not going our way. Once the team is not entertaining we say it’s negative football. The same thing we said during keshi reign, in fact if I remember well majority said he won afcon by luck. I believe in further building on top any little success and not belittling it all in the name of eye catching football. We will keep going round cycles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:11pm On Jun 11
Same coach could only register 2 points after 2 games.

Let’s not forget Finidi didn’t have Osimhen, who was very instrumental to our AFCON run whether he scored or not.

Granted Finidi made bad choices in his selection, and maybe tactics as well.
Goke7:


The coaches that tried to instil the discipline and grind out the results we say they are playing negative football. We got to decide what we want
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:13pm On Jun 11
Gajagojo:

You are majoring in minors

I am interested in the big picture. Not Finidi or Boniface but a strategic long term view
I started watching Nigerian football in 1978 . The coach is not the problem

It is the NFF and the fans

You see nothing wrong with not appointing a coach on time but are telling me about Boniface
Do you know how many coaching assistants Finidi has been given? How many scouts or support staff?
#

Who appoints a coach one year after the qualifiers have started?

Well this is what I like to hear, I am in complete agreement with your expectations. Success is built over the long term not the short term.

The English FA decided over a decade ago that the players being introduced into professional football ⚽. Through the academy systems were simply outdated, technically inept, lacking skill and creativity. Essentially kick 🦵🏿 and rush was obsolete.

As a consequence the English football academy needed to produce players who can play top level technical football and have the athletic ability to compete with players anywhere in the world 🌍

The whole youth training programme was changed and great emphasis placed on technical proficiency skill and athleticism.

Arsene Wenger once said if you don't have technical skill at 14 it's almost impossible to develop after that age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qFjCaheDE?feature=shared

What I am saying maybe the problem is much deeper, our football development has regressed very badly unfortunately. For how long have we been waiting for the next Jjay ,Finidi, Olise, etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 6:14pm On Jun 11
Katcall:
Rwanda has scored. 7 points and they go top
make lesotho score them back and drop back to 5points…na only Benin go dey dat 7pts till next year 2025…the rest go gap us with 2points, possibly sef make Zimbabwe jus score a winning goal..e go too sweet…I prefer Zim to win that game oo…SA must not escape to 7points oo.
All this yeye calculator i dey do, it depends on these our super ugwu to capitalize on it..those guys eehn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 6:16pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


My idea of flying is dominating and winning. I have never seen England as flying team.
Spain and France dominated Europe by winning Euro.
They dominated the rest of the world by winning world cup playing good football along the way.
Can England do so with Pep?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 6:16pm On Jun 11
komekn:


Well this is what I like to hear, I am in complete agreement with your expectations. Success is built over the long term not the short term.

The English FA decided over a decade ago that the players being introduced into professional football ⚽. Through the academy systems were simply outdated, technically inept, lacking skill and creativity. Essentially kick 🦵🏿 and rush was obsolete.

As a consequence the English football academy needed to produce players who can play top level technical football and have the athletic ability to compete with players anywhere in the world 🌍

The whole youth training programme was changed and great emphasis placed on technical proficiency skill and athleticism.

Arsene Wenger once said if you don't have technical skill at 14 it's almost impossible to develop after that age.

What I am saying maybe the problem is much deeper, our football development has regressed very badly unfortunately. For how long have we been waiting for the next Jjay ,Finidi, Olise, etc



Stuff is Nigerian football had a coaching problem. From my observation the average Nigerian coach lacks knowledge of basic things in modern football.
Coaching is fundamental to football as teaching is to education. We don't coaching seriously.
Most Nigerian players are badly coached from their youth that's all. We need a coaching revolution.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:16pm On Jun 11
Katcall:
Beside the SE has never been a possessional team. They wait and let the opponent lose the ball and then they breakaway

It was from the okocha era we started getting addicted to this eye catching football. In fact those days it was when the eagles was leading by a comfortable margin like 3-0 they start showboating with cheers from the crowd eeeee no coach needed to teach the team possession football then, they get the job done and entertain the crowd later. But now we got to teach them how to trap ball sef, may God have mercy!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:17pm On Jun 11
minfelix:
current standing with ongoing play as @ 6:07pm 😅😀
Benin 7pts
Rwanda 7pts
Lesotho 5pts
SA 5pts
Nigeria 3pts
Zimbabwe 3pts

Chei I shane 🙈🙉🙈 see supposed giant of African football ⚽⚽⚽
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 6:20pm On Jun 11
komekn:


Chei I shane 🙈🙉🙈 see supposed giant of African football ⚽⚽⚽


Let’s even forget finidi …sincerely our players shld be ashamed of themselves,sense far from dem

Instead of dem to focus ,na mumu interview and skit dem Dey do ….too many distractions,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:20pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Same coach could only register 2 points after 2 games.

Let’s not forget Finidi didn’t have Osimhen, who was very instrumental to our AFCON run whether he scored or not.

Granted Finidi made bad choices in his selection, and maybe tactics as well.

The same Osihmen we don finish for here? Abegi
And like I said much earlier I would have preferred paseiro taking all these hit than finidi who has finally made a bad case for local coaches
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 6:20pm On Jun 11
South Africa scores
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 6:23pm On Jun 11
Amedino99:
South Africa scores

South Africa- 7pts
Rwanda- 7pts
Benin- 7pts
Lesotho - 5pts
Nigeria - 3pts
Zimbabwe - 2pts

We are in for a long thing ooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:26pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


It was from the okocha era we started getting addicted to this eye catching football. In fact those days it was when the eagles was leading by a comfortable margin like 3-0 they start showboating with cheers from the crowd eeeee no coach needed to teach the team possession football then, they get the job done and entertain the crowd later. But now we got to teach them how to trap ball sef, may God have mercy!

Unfortunately while we were in deep sleep corruption, mediocrity, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism, ineptitude, incompetence took over our NFA now NFF.

We must realise that while we were in a deep comotose sleep other nations , were wide awake building up their football ⚽ development. Andbsime have left us behind or are now able to compete.

Top level entertainment football is still being played at the highest levels.of football ⚽ just not by us sadly and UNFORTUNATELY.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Gajagojo: 6:32pm On Jun 11
komekn:


Well this is what I like to hear, I am in complete agreement with your expectations. Success is built over the long term not the short term.

The English FA decided over a decade ago that the players being introduced into professional football ⚽. Through the academy systems were simply outdated, technically inept, lacking skill and creativity. Essentially kick 🦵🏿 and rush was obsolete.

As a consequence the English football academy needed to produce players who can play top level technical football and have the athletic ability to compete with players anywhere in the world 🌍

The whole youth training programme was changed and great emphasis placed on technical proficiency skill and athleticism.

Arsene Wenger once said if you don't have technical skill at 14 it's almost impossible to develop after that age.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4qFjCaheDE?feature=shared

What I am saying maybe the problem is much deeper, our football development has regressed very badly unfortunately. For how long have we been waiting for the next Jjay ,Finidi, Olise, etc



My diagnosis is that we have been mentally colonized with football
What happened with Music has to happen with football
When we were kids people travelled from Lagos to Ibadan Benin following stationary stores
Now young people know about the premiership players more than their family members
It is inferiority complex
Players who are made in Nigeria have a ruggedness that Iwobi cannot have.
The defenders technically are embarrassing.
Honestly I haven't seen any player as good as Oliseh since he left
Let us NEVER forget
That 1994 team was ranked NUMBER 6 in the world
It was Westerhof that facilitated their moves to Europe after he arrived in 1989
They were all home based
Again Keshi won with home based defeating Drogba,You're and others in the best Ivory coast team
We must start from the basics
Forget about winning but build a home grown team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:33pm On Jun 11
elyte89:



Let’s even forget finidi …sincerely our players shld be ashamed of themselves,sense far from dem

Instead of dem to focus ,na mumu interview and skit dem Dey do ….too many distractions,

Dude we have regressed look at our midfield, outside of Iwobi zero invention, creativity. Out midfield anchored ⚓ on Onyedika and Ndidi with Iwobi the only technical gifted inventive and creative player.

What do you except the results will be.

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