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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:39pm On Jun 11
Gajagojo:


My diagnosis is that we have been mentally colonized with football
What happened with Music has to happen with football
When we were kids people travelled from Lagos to Ibadan Benin following stationary stores
Now young people know about the premiership players more than their family members
It is inferiority complex
Players who are made in Nigeria have a ruggedness that Iwobi cannot have.
The defenders technically are embarrassing.
Honestly I haven't seen any player as good as Oliseh since he left
Let us NEVER forget
That 1994 team was ranked NUMBER 6 in the world
It was Westerhof that facilitated their moves to Europe after he arrived in 1989
They were all home based
Again Keshi won with home based defeating Drogba,You're and others in the best Ivory coast team
We must start from the basics
Forget about winning but build a home grown team

Oga sorry to burst the bubble 💭 look at our nation and the state we are in . Apart from music 🎵 and films nearly every area of endeavour has gone backwards.

Our universities use to have world level ratings. Most government secondary schools are in a shambles.

Without deviating into politics without a will and a comprehensive reorientation of our national psychi , bros this is how it's going to be for years to come.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Katcall: 6:39pm On Jun 11
minfelix:

make lesotho score them back and drop back to 5points…na only Benin go dey dat 7pts till next year 2025…the rest go gap us with 2points, possibly sef make Zimbabwe jus score a winning goal..e go too sweet…I prefer Zim to win that game oo…SA must not escape to 7points oo.
All this yeye calculator i dey do, it depends on these our super ugwu to capitalize on it..those guys eehn
SA tilo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:40pm On Jun 11
komekn:


Unfortunately while we were in deep sleep corruption, mediocrity, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism, ineptitude, incompetence took over our NFA now NFF.

We must realise that while we were in a deep comotose sleep other nations , were wide awake building up their football ⚽ development. Andbsime have left us behind or are now able to compete.

Top level entertainment football is still being played at the highest levels.of football ⚽ just not by us sadly and UNFORTUNATELY.

I agree with you totally 💯 NFF refused to build on all the successes of yesteryears and we are paying dearly for it now

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:44pm On Jun 11
TheGoodJoe:


I don't doubt the English capability, but I am not down with their overall playing style and do not see them dominating the game until they change their philosophy to meet with what the players are used to in their clubs. Especially the top players.

Dude looks at the ballers England is producing now . They have ditched kick and rush, blood and guts long ball.

Look at the English players now you talk about them all the time.

That's two decades of investment in training emphasis on technical ability, skill and Athleticism etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:44pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


I agree with you totally 💯 NFF refused to build on all the successes of yesteryears and we are paying dearly for it now

💯%
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:48pm On Jun 11
Osimhen was criticized for lack of goals. But no one can question his impact in other areas.

Goke7:


The same Osihmen we don finish for here? Abegi
And like I said much earlier I would have preferred paseiro taking all these hit than finidi who has finally made a bad case for local coaches

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 6:51pm On Jun 11
One problem we have is that we waste our friendlies.
We should use fring players like samson tijani, taminu, ismaila sodiq, olawoyin in friendlies to find out how good or bad they are. Instead, we use our full squad for our friendlies.
This is the major problem. Have a midfield of samson tijani, nwakali and Raohael onyedika an attack of arokodare olakunle olusegub (u17 guy from russia) and yira sor in a friendly. Let them play for 90 minutes and see what happens. In that way we can discover new talents and if a player is not good enough we will know.
OK in our next friendly let us try ebenezer akinsanmiro and victor eletu to see what they can do.
If we claim our experienced players are not serious then the best way to replace them is in a friendly not when it is 10 minutes to go , ieobi and osimhrn are playing nonsense and it seems nobody can do anything from the bench.Friendlies are important I. Order to see who is good who needs time and who is outright horrible.
WE SHOULD STOP WASTING OUR FRIENDLIES!!!!.
NOW I DONT Wnt Any nwakali debate.
GOOD PLAYERS ARE DISCOVERED IN FRIENDLIES NOT IN DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:52pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Osimhen was criticized for lack of goals. But no one can question his impact in other areas.


Agreed without question ⁉️
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:57pm On Jun 11
Our woes will be compounded should we have a run away leader in the group. If SA does well against other teams even if they lose to us we are not gonna make it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:58pm On Jun 11
South Africa will lead Nigeria 5 points at the end of this round. We are in trouble
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:59pm On Jun 11
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Joebie:
Our woes will be compounded should we have a run away leader in the group. If SA does well against other teams even if they lose to use we are not gonna make it.


You be get hope before? Una Dey try o, I no get that kind mind grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Gajagojo: 6:59pm On Jun 11
komekn:


Oga sorry to burst the bubble 💭 look at our nation and the state we are in . Apart from music 🎵 and films nearly every area of endeavour has gone backwards.

Our universities use to have world level ratings. Most government secondary schools are in a shambles.

Without deviating into politics without a will and a comprehensive reorientation of our national psychi , bros this is how it's going to be for years to come.
There is no bubble to burst I was an adult when we first went to the World Cup. I know when we won the nations cup for the first time. I remember Odiye''s own goal.
So I know where we used to be
Many kids now think it is a right to be on top without earning it saying ordinary Benin as if it is by mouth
If it remains so for 20 years it is no tragedy . One day it will change because we have it in us but we must work

The koko is that there are good players all over Africa especially West Africa

Where did George Weah Come from?

A basic thing like appointing a coach on time should not be an issue

The starting point is government should stop funding NFF let the private sector fund it and control it like a business.
Afterall FIFA does not allow government control so why is government putting money that encourages corruption
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:02pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
South Africa will lead Nigeria 5 points at the end of this round. We are in trouble

When the SA coach said the draw they had in Nigeria was good for them, the man knows what he was talking about.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:02pm On Jun 11
Philosopher1979:
One problem we have is that we waste our friendlies.
We should use fring players like samson tijani, taminu, ismaila sodiq, olawoyin in friendlies to find out how good or bad they are. Instead, we use our full squad for our friendlies.
This is the major problem. Have a midfield of samson tijani, nwakali and Raohael onyedika an attack of arokodare olakunle olusegub (u17 guy from russia) and yira sor in a friendly. Let them play for 90 minutes and see what happens. In that way we can discover new talents and if a player is not good enough we will know.
OK in our next friendly let us try ebenezer akinsanmiro and victor eletu to see what they can do.
If we claim our experienced players are not serious then the best way to replace them is in a friendly not when it is 10 minutes to go , ieobi and osimhrn are playing nonsense and it seems nobody can do anything from the bench.Friendlies are important I. Order to see who is good who needs time and who is outright horrible.
WE SHOULD STOP WASTING OUR FRIENDLIES!!!!.
NOW I DONT Wnt Any nwakali debate.
GOOD PLAYERS ARE DISCOVERED IN FRIENDLIES NOT IN DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES

First of all youth football cannot be used to anchor ⚓ anything with regards to senior team selection.

Because you were good in youth football is only indicative of potential but it's not conclusive.

Until players play first team football week in and week out giving consistent continuous top level performances in Club and league. They should not be invited to the SE.

There is a need to place emphasis on merit's not sentiment and possible favouritism.

Good players are seen playing in club and league showing high level ability and quality, not in a FRIENDLY.

SELECTION must be by merit not sentiment.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:03pm On Jun 11
I no get hope again I was thinking SA would slip today. Those boys will never look back.

Goke7:
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You be get hope before? Una Dey try o, I no get that kind mind grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 7:04pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
South Africa will lead Nigeria 5 points at the end of this round. We are in trouble
they are on 7points now..thats 4points ahead of us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:04pm On Jun 11
Let’s just accept our fate. After the Olympics go for a proven Herve Renard and plan for the next AFCON and WC

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:05pm On Jun 11
Oh 7 my bad. It still looks bad.
minfelix:

they are on 7points now..thats 4points ahead of us
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 7:06pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Oh 7 my bad. It still looks bad.
They are clearly looking as the fave to grab the ticket
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 7:07pm On Jun 11
Very true. Think Senegal.

Our stupidity will always come back to bite us. Make we continue the Owambe and tribalism
komekn:


Unfortunately while we were in deep sleep corruption, mediocrity, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism, ineptitude, incompetence took over our NFA now NFF.

We must realise that while we were in a deep comotose sleep other nations , were wide awake building up their football ⚽ development. Andbsime have left us behind or are now able to compete.

Top level entertainment football is still being played at the highest levels.of football ⚽ just not by us sadly and UNFORTUNATELY.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:10pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
South Africa will lead Nigeria 5 points at the end of this round. We are in trouble

It’s 4 point and if deres any country dt can have a run away of points…no b South Africa 🇿🇦 …those ones Dey fumble pass anything ,I will rada place my bet on Benin republic (rohr factor) ,cos dem sef no too sabi,but Dey can defend deir slim lead with deir lives 😎



Even as d group stands…we can still qualify 100percent provided nff do d needful

Invite committed and inform players who is willing to spill d last sweat on d field

2 finidi shld be excused from d team and give any competent coach d chance to c us thru(thank God d new coach will have some nations cup qualifier games to knw d team wella ).
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 7:10pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


I agree with you totally 💯 NFF refused to build on all the successes of yesteryears and we are paying dearly for it now

Nigeria as a whole doesn’t know how to manage and maintain success. That’s why we constantly have to rebuild from scratch. We fail to manage and maintain.

Won the AFCON in 2013 then failed to qualify for the 2015 and 2017 editions.

Similarly, went to the 2023 AFCON final but are stuttering in our WCQ
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mrwilliams9: 7:15pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


When the SA coach said the draw they had in Nigeria was good for them, the man knows what he was talking about.

Definitely a good result for them. On paper, Nigeria away was their toughest match and they got a point out of it. We need three points when we meet them in Jozi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EEGA: 7:19pm On Jun 11
faithtemisan93:
Na onyedika start o
Finidi got it wrong by starting Ndidi alongside Onyedika.The pair seems to have no clear definition of roles whenever they start together, as evident in the match against Mali.

He should have dropped one for the other, while starting Yusuf.His mid-field needed a work horse like Yusuf.

Before the match I predicted a 3-5-2, with Chukwueze and Lookman leading the attack.

Onuachu was average against SA,Boniface is unfit while Moffi didn't have the best of games from the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:21pm On Jun 11
Gajagojo:

There is no bubble to burst I was an adult when we first went to the World Cup. I know when we won the nations cup for the first time. I remember Odiye''s own goal.
So I know where we used to be
Many kids now think it is a right to be on top without earning it saying ordinary Benin as if it is by mouth
If it remains so for 20 years it is no tragedy . One day it will change because we have it in us but we must work

The koko is that there are good players all over Africa especially West Africa

Where did George Weah Come from?

A basic thing like appointing a coach on time should not be an issue

The starting point is government should stop funding NFF let the private sector fund it and control it like a business.
Afterall FIFA does not allow government control so why is government putting money that encourages corruption

African players are dominating European football.

Many find this a hard pill to follow.

But the reality is that the bulk of our top level players are going to come from the diaspora. As the nation contends with decades of failed leadership. The word we hear 🙉 everywhere is JAKPA.

I wonder how many millions people of Nigerian origin are across Europe , America, Australia, etc.

But the reality is that the current system is not going to produce the next Okocha. There is no will and spirit to do so. Local Academies are looking for quick gains which means money 🤑.

Unfortunately I did not JAKPA.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:26pm On Jun 11
Make dem draft Sia Sia or amunike to d crew na

Make finidi go back to assistance
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MallamSpicey: 7:37pm On Jun 11
Omo if someone woke me up and told me the Super Eagles of Nigeria are dragging second to last position with Zimbabwe in an expanded world cup group that has teams like Lesotho, Rwanda, and Benin republic...I would have slapped the person for such insult and gone back to sleep thinking it was all a dream. But here we are, this is our reality in 2024.

Honestly this calls for an emergency situation in our football, Tinubu has to get involved and implement some tough decisions right now before it gets worse. Left for me, i no send person papa so I'm a firm advocate of overhauling 80% of this team, call up any fringe player(s) out there who will give his word and bond to fight till the last to salvage our world cup hopes, then such players should be made national heroes. I'm all for calling back or even begging veteran players like Victor Moses, Balogun, Ighalo and any other active player to come back and save us in our remaining games. These current set of guys apart from Osimhen and Ekong just don't have that rugged Naija never-say-never in them, these ones are IG models and banger boys on Twitter.

All hands must be on deck to make sure we win our remaining games and at least make the playoffs where we can decide our fate. NFF must send their best delegates to beg our veteran players who have retired to come back and make history for themselves! We are in a football crisis right now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 7:41pm On Jun 11
mrwilliams9:


Nigeria as a whole doesn’t know how to manage and maintain success. That’s why we constantly have to rebuild from scratch. We fail to manage and maintain.

Won the AFCON in 2013 then failed to qualify for the 2015 and 2017 editions.

Similarly, went to the 2023 AFCON final but are stuttering in our WCQ

I have always advocated we build on our successes no matter how little but that’s when we still start arguing about eye catching football

Honestly I saw this coming you can’t be changing coaching crew with important qualifying matches underway we shouted this but some will say the same coach drew the first two matches but that was before Afcon now something happened in Afcon, build from there, ok your midfield is weak, tweak it. If musa was motivating the team from the sidelines as a non playing captain why can’t he continue the role thru the qualifiers, why throw everything away why why why? For God’s sake are we cursed? What’s wrong with us as a nation. We keep self sabotaging, okay injured players the ones on the bench at Afcon nko why bring in too many new players now, so many questions. Ndidi was not in Afcon why make him captain or lead the team haba too many changes in just 4 months. Nonsensical nonsense

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 7:43pm On Jun 11
semid4lyfe:
Sack Finidi. Sack Finidi. Sack Finidi.

I am of the same ethnic stock as Finidi but I cannot in all honesty advocate for him to continue in the helms as Super Eagles coach.

It cannot get worse. The knife has been shoved deeper and twisted in our heart and we'll eventually bleed to death. WE CANNOT QUALIFY. That:s the realistic diagnosis. .

We lose nothing from sacking Funidi.

Sacking Finidi is bye to football without formation and tactics.

Sacking Finidi is bye to poor defensive setup.

Sacking Finidi is bye to unmerited call-ups.

Sacking Finidi is bye to questionable player invitations.

Sacking Finidi is bye to home-based quota.

Sacking Finidi is bye to susceptibility to NPFL journalists and their envelope-induced hyping of home-based players.

NFF should do fast and sack him.
Some of us shouted that finidi is not good enough for SE but some were thinking it's because of Amunike
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 7:54pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Osimhen was criticized for lack of goals. But no one can question his impact in other areas.

That boy dey work eh!
His work rate is crazy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 7:54pm On Jun 11
Here is the only way forward if super eagles is must go WORLD CUP.

(Nwabali, Ndidi, Osayi, Chukwueze, Onuacho, Moffi and Iwobi) these people should not play any games till the qualifiers finishes. End

They are not ready for world cup and I won't talk much. cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 7:57pm On Jun 11
MallamSpicey:
Omo if someone woke me up and told me the Super Eagles of Nigeria are dragging second to last position with Zimbabwe in an expanded world cup group that has teams like Lesotho, Rwanda, and Benin republic...I would have slapped the person for such insult and gone back to sleep thinking it was all a dream. But here we are, this is our reality in 2024.

Honestly this calls for an emergency situation in our football, Tinubu has to get involved and implement some tough decisions right now before it gets worse. Left for me, i no send person papa so I'm a firm advocate of overhauling 80% of this team, call up any fringe player(s) out there who will give his word and bond to fight till the last to salvage our world cup hopes, then such players should be made national heroes. I'm all for calling back or even begging veteran players like Victor Moses, Balogun, Ighalo and any other active player to come back and save us in our remaining games. These current set of guys apart from Osimhen and Ekong just don't have that rugged Naija never-say-never in them, these ones are IG models and banger boys on Twitter.

All hands must be on deck to make sure we win our remaining games and at least make the playoffs where we can decide our fate. NFF must send their best delegates to beg our veteran players who have retired to come back and make history for themselves! We are in a football crisis right now.

Good advice. Hope they are reading this. If we have a high quality coach to coach Nigeria on a part time basis like Randy Waldrum, I no go mind.

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