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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by opes: 9:26pm On Jun 11
mank1234:


Top on th list is Segun Odegbami and 94 set of SE.

Honestly, I dont understand his disdain for foreign coach. He critized Rohr until he got sacked, same continued under Peseiro. Not that the local coaches he was pushing were doing anything special. Sudan yet to lose a game in group B and toping with 10pts, guess the coach? Kwesi Appiah...It is well

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:31pm On Jun 11
Someone listed many factors and u are basking on tribalism. Show me one company, ministry etc that doesn’t have other tribes besides the big 3. Yes there is not tribalism in the land.

codemaniacs:




If there was corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism then Finidi would have never gotten the S.E job it will be Ndubuisi Egbo that would have gotten the job..

if there was tribalism then the N.F.F will be filled with mainly Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have topped the group because the Igbos, Yorubas would have done everything to ensure their foreign born players are capped.. how would Eze, Tella be invited and not capped that is madness..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have a playing pattern because most of the players will come from one ethnic nation and would understand each other better the same way the Catalans helped Spain win the Euros and World Cup and created a playing pattern that the whole of Spain has adopted and integrated if it was Nigeria another ethnic nation would have rubbished and talked down on the pattern..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would play as a unit because most of them will come from the same academy..

the only way S.E can do well is for both government and private sector to invest in training facilities... that's the way France gets people from different cultures to blend and play well and they also maintain the Coach Deschamps that took them to finals...

You cannot get people from different cultures who don't train together often and don't have a playing and coaching pattern to dominate games they will have to play Mourinho or Simeone pattern of football..

If I pick a team based on corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism and with foreign born players then my starting 11 will be:

Karim Adeyemi as LSS
Elijah Adebayo or Osimhen as CF
Lookman as CAM/SS
Saka as RW/RSS ( if he wasn't capped by england ) or Amoo regardless of his issues.
Onyedika as CM
Tijani or Onyeka as DM
Osho or Udogie as LB
Alaba as CB
Akanji or Ekong as CB
Ola Aina as RB
Okoye as GK
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:32pm On Jun 11
mrwilliams9:


What do you mean an automatic berth is out of our hands? If we win our remaining 6 games there’s a chance to top the group.

We should focus on that alone. Playoffs is a long thing. First you have to win two legs to be the CAF representative. Then you have an inter confederation playoff as well before qualifying for the WC.

Let’s focus on what we have infront of us.


I no knw y ppu Dey press panic button Abi dem don change the teams In our group?

No b Benin 🇧🇯 Lesotho 🇱🇸 Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 Rwanda 🇷🇼 and SA

Aside SA DT might prove stubborn at home ,odas re very beatable on our good day with serious players and a good coach.

We have Benin 🇧🇯 in uyo

Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 in uyo

Rwanda 🇷🇼 in uyo

And away in Rwanda 🇷🇼

Lesotho 🇱🇸 in a neutral ground (probably SA),even if we play the match in heaven, we suppose win


With a good team selection and a good coach ,we shouldn’t have problem winning this 5matches.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bazkanova: 9:39pm On Jun 11
codemaniacs:




If there was corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism then Finidi would have never gotten the S.E job it will be Ndubuisi Egbo that would have gotten the job..

if there was tribalism then the N.F.F will be filled with mainly Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have topped the group because the Igbos, Yorubas would have done everything to ensure their foreign born players are capped.. how would Eze, Tella be invited and not capped that is madness..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would have a playing pattern because most of the players will come from one ethnic nation and would understand each other better the same way the Catalans helped Spain win the Euros and World Cup and created a playing pattern that the whole of Spain has adopted and integrated if it was Nigeria another ethnic nation would have rubbished and talked down on the pattern..

if there was tribalism then the S.E would play as a unit because most of them will come from the same academy..

the only way S.E can do well is for both government and private sector to invest in training facilities... that's the way France gets people from different cultures to blend and play well and they also maintain the Coach Deschamps that took them to finals...

You cannot get people from different cultures who don't train together often and don't have a playing and coaching pattern to dominate games they will have to play Mourinho or Simeone pattern of football..

If I pick a team based on corruption, godfatherism, tribalism, favouritism, nepotism and with foreign born players then my starting 11 will be:

Karim Adeyemi as LSS
Elijah Adebayo or Osimhen as CF
Lookman as CAM/SS
Saka as RW/RSS ( if he wasn't capped by england ) or Amoo regardless of his issues.
Onyedika as CM
Tijani or Onyeka as DM
Osho or Udogie as LB
Alaba as CB
Akanji or Ekong as CB
Ola Aina as RB
Okoye as GK
Rubbish. Take this garbage talk to the shitty politics section.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Bazkanova: 9:40pm On Jun 11
dijon:
Patriotism isn’t always about local solutions.

Patriotism is about wanting the best for the country even if the solution is foreign while also closing the recognized gaps and improving on the local solution to be at par with foreign solutions.

Our local media and NPFL apologist damaged SE.

Thank you. Blind patriotism will be the death of many.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:41pm On Jun 11
Joebie:
Someone listed many factors and u are basking on tribalism. Show me one company, ministry etc that doesn’t have other tribes besides the big 3. Yes there is not tribalism in the land.


There are many companies that consists mainly of 1 tribe or at worse 2 tribes.

Many state governments consists mainly of 1 tribe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 9:44pm On Jun 11
Bazkanova:

Rubbish. Take this garbage talk to the shitty politics section.

This is what I'm saying you're already calling it rubbish grin grin grin even though it's fictional grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:45pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


Also remember we are not a patient nation when the results are not going our way. Once the team is not entertaining we say it’s negative football. The same thing we said during keshi reign, in fact if I remember well majority said he won afcon by luck. I believe in further building on top any little success and not belittling it all in the name of eye catching football. We will keep going round cycles.

I believe working towards effective possessive play and building on it will result in success. Going through just getting result will end with the team being toothless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:53pm On Jun 11
Goke7:


we said then that we needed a Lesson learned strategy from Afcon but all the attacking football analysts said it's anti naija football.

sticking with Finidi is a higher risk, am sorry he doesn't have the charisma to charge the boys forward. We have lost something huge after Afcon, the pattern Finidi is trying to play, we don't have the full personnel to execute as Finidi is trying to add something he thinks is missing from the Afcon experience. What he's trying is what Paseiro also tried before Afcon that did not work, make we no deceive ourselves

Yes you're right. After the first game at afcon that we drew he saw that we were poor in defending and that we struggle when we conceed first. He changed strategy. This his disciple that was with him and should have learnt something, jetissn the idea and gave us the worst of defences.

A team is as good as its leader. A zebra can not lead a pride of lion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 9:56pm On Jun 11
lbrichman2:


We were never going to beat South Africa and Benin, let's tell ourselves the truth..
Finidi's issues nothwithstanding, SA and Benin had been in camp for weeks training and perfecting team strategy and cohesion

Our own players strolled into camp late, thinking they would have it easy.

Finidi is the scapegoat and he may probably be sacked
But truth be told, we were never going to beat both teams with such lackluster behavior from our players
And it showed on the field
No fight, no urgency
See how Benin players wan die for pitch!
That's what I'm talking about

True. That's because they don't regard the coach. We saw all this when we were saying let's stick with Peseiro. We're they behaving like that before now?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 10:05pm On Jun 11
mrwilliams9:


What do you mean an automatic berth is out of our hands? If we win our remaining 6 games there’s a chance to top the group.

We should focus on that alone. Playoffs is a long thing. First you have to win two legs to be the CAF representative. Then you have an inter confederation playoff as well before qualifying for the WC.

Let’s focus on what we have infront of us.

It is out of our hands because winning the rest our matches does not guarantee us 1st place. We need Benin and SA to lose (or maybe draw) the rest of their matches in order for us finish with higher points. Those possibilities aren't certain.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:24pm On Jun 11
mank1234:


Top on th list is Segun Odegbami and 94 set of SE.

You see that 1994 set they're the problem of the super eagles
Besides keshi and siasia the rest of them are pests to our football development

The earlier we get rid of them off our football growth the better for us

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:25pm On Jun 11
Any stick with finidi theory is a recipe for a cruel reality that will shake that glass house and scatter everywhere. Nothing impactful he can do enough to compete with the mid teams in Africa. Not to talk of the top dogs. He should getat.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:27pm On Jun 11
NFF should please as a matter of urgency sack Finidi and quickly employ that pep former assistant or any other good foreign Coach with zero tolerance for mediocrity charge with the task to qualify Nigeria for the World Cup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 10:28pm On Jun 11
daveP:
Any stick with finidi theory is a recipe for a cruel reality that will shake that glass house and scatter everywhere. Nothing impactful he can do enough to compete with the mid teams in Africa. Not to talk of the top dogs. He should getat.
Nigerians are already infuriated any more loose with finidi incharge will spark outrage

I don't know why Finidi can't just humble himself and resign

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 10:35pm On Jun 11
For immediate solution to defense issues I think Nigeria needs Tosin Adarabioyo urgently
maybe the AC Milan guy too if it’s not too late
Quick & urgent fix
Last time some people should be called up to eagles .eg. Ajayi
We also have one or two good centre backs in the South African league
I’d personally prefer solid home based centre back or two but there’s no time for try outs or experiments anymore
How to win 6 straight games
Phew
Desperate times call for tough decisions
NFF should go on fire-approach to resolve this totally
We need centre backs
We need creative midfielders
We need world class box to box midfielders
So we can’t find any solid replacement for Zaidu, why’s Osayi playing left back
How can we rely on only Iwobi to create for us
Bassey and Tosin pairing would work because they’ve spent over a season together and they’re use to each other
We need top top level guys
We can win all 6 if we get the best legs who are Nigerians from anywhere on earth.
With one or two friendlies to work on team chemistry & tactics
Nigeria FF should do everything to get Ekong & Osimhen fit o
Nigeria can salvage this if sports ministry and NFF get their acts right and address the issues with urgency
6 straight wins to qualify
Difficult task but nothing is impossible
They need to go on a winning streak
I don’t believe in the coach though
Don’t know why they didn’t pick Amunike
My opinion
Do you guys think we need Gift Orban too ?
We shouldn’t invite strikers with similar play style

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:41pm On Jun 11
You said “mainly”. But u for apply same logic for ur write up na if e for make sense.

codemaniacs:


There are many companies that consists mainly of 1 tribe or at worse 2 tribes.

Many state governments consists mainly of 1 tribe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:41pm On Jun 11
do4luv14:



Which Equeavon did you learn at all,

That's the finidi your were fronting for to get the Job, now he should step aside

Finidi-Ball must stay

Thank you very much. Humility33 clearly wanted Finidi. All because he didn't want Amunike, he wanted Finidi, a man he knew nothing about from a tactical coaching perspective. All those who chose Finidi or preferred Finidi just so that Amunike should not be considered should sit tight coz Finidi is our coach for now.

Una wanted this Finidi ride, not so? We dey here together. Lol

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 10:44pm On Jun 11
mank1234:


Top on th list is Segun Odegbami and 94 set of SE.
the most useless ex international. One man I can easily shoot on sight if given the opportunity 😡
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:44pm On Jun 11
The problem here isn't the local coaches. The problem here is the choice of Local Coaches.

And you clearly have bad taste in picking them.😂

charlesemeka85:
This is the second time I supported the hiring of a local coach and dem fail me

The first was oliseh and now finidi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I swear anybody wey mk case for local coaches here i go knack am jazz

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 10:56pm On Jun 11
He qualified Nigeria to the 2018 Worldcup with a game to spare from a group that has Africa champions Cameroon, Algeria and Zambia.

His team was deducted two points just because of NFF carelessness yet it didn't affect the Super Eagles qualifications.

Qualified Nigeria for the 2022 FIFA Worldcup qualifying playoffs but clueless NFF decided to sack him.

Qualified for the 2019 and 2021 AFCON with games to spare.

We wanted Nigeria to play like Manchester City.

Here we are, no hopes of playing at the 2026 Worldcup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:57pm On Jun 11
More fair? Fairness isn't by local or foreign. It is down to the actual selection decision-making competence of the individual involved.

Was it not Lars Lagerback who also picked nonsense? Rohr, in his final 2 years with us was rubbish too in his selections and decision makings.

We have had them both local and foreign mess us up in terms of selection.


Not ripe for a local coach? Was Festus Onigbingbe from Togo when he led Nigeria to Afcon Silver in 1984?? Amodu Shuaibu remains the only coach who has qualified Nigeria successfully for 2 World Cups AND HE IS BLOODY LOCAL.

It is the choice of local coaches that matter. So snap out of your delusional fallacy.

chidekings:
no matter how we see it,Nigeria is not ripe for a local coach......no matter the sins of a foreign coach,they are more fair with their selections.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:03pm On Jun 11
TheSuperNerd:
Wilfred Ndidi - It is so sad but your time in the Super Eagles Starting XI is up.

I enjoyed your rise and early days jn the GWG but right now, you are not starter material.


semid4lyfe:
No one mentioned Ndidi was woeful yesterday
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:12pm On Jun 11
Tell him. Don't mind Charles. He even preferred Finidi take the job rather than a better qualified and more technically sound Amunike.

Now see where such "banter" has gotten him..... now to the point of him eating his own words and calling for Finidi's sack. And it has not even been 3 months. I shake my head.

zicky:
He should be sacked when many here was shouting the finidi is no good enough for SE, you turned it to Apc, PDP banter.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 11:12pm On Jun 11
Nwabali is better than Okoye o
Don’t know why you guys are disrespecting Nwabali because he’s not playing in Europe

Nwabali appears more comfortable with the ball on his feet and playing from the back.

Okoye still has a lot of experience and playing time to do to catch up with Nwabali
Udinese that were somewhat battling relegation
That’s how you guys will say they should use a gittery national team goalie and blunders would reappear left and right
Bassey made an error and Nwabali did the right thing
He was quick to action
Unfortunately they scored
None of the goals were his fault
The last time he made an error was corner kick against Ivory Coast in final where he misjudged and came out of the post
His quick thinking and rushing out made us avoid a clear one on one goal situation against South Africa
The one Taminu eventually nodded out

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 11:16pm On Jun 11
TheSuperNerd:
Tell him. Don't mind Charles. He even preferred Finidi take the job rather than a better qualified and more technically sound Amunike.

Now see where such "banter" has gotten him..... now to the point of him eating his own words and calling for Finidi's sack. And it has not even been 3 months. I shake my head.



What shld we do now 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹, I don tayya 🥹🥹

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:16pm On Jun 11
TheSuperNerd:
Tell him. Don't mind Charles. He even preferred Finidi take the job rather than a better qualified and more technically sound Amunike.

Now see where such "banter" has gotten him..... now to the point of him eating his own words and calling for Finidi's sack. And it has not even been 3 months. I shake my head.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:17pm On Jun 11
TheSuperNerd:
The problem here isn't the local coaches. The problem here is the choice of Local Coaches.

And you clearly have bad taste in picking them.😂

🤦‍♀️
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 11:23pm On Jun 11
elyte89:



I no knw y ppu Dey press panic button Abi dem don change the teams In our group?

No b Benin 🇧🇯 Lesotho 🇱🇸 Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 Rwanda 🇷🇼 and SA

Aside SA DT might prove stubborn at home ,odas re very beatable on our good day with serious players and a good coach.

We have Benin 🇧🇯 in uyo

Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 in uyo

Rwanda 🇷🇼 in uyo

And away in Rwanda 🇷🇼

Lesotho 🇱🇸 in a neutral ground (probably SA),even if we play the match in heaven, we suppose win


With a good team selection and a good coach ,we shouldn’t have problem winning this 5matches.
Na like this u dey sound before we played these two matches assuring us of 6 points,at the end na only 1 point reach us.

People are panicking because they neither trust Finidi to do the job nor NFF to do the right thing,simple.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Napoleon55(m): 11:24pm On Jun 11
TheSuperNerd:
The problem here isn't the local coaches. The problem here is the choice of Local Coaches.

And you clearly have bad taste in picking them.😂

100% fact.

And again USA 1994 set are not the problem either as some people keep saying

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 9JAMac10: 11:33pm On Jun 11
typicalgamer:


Are you kidding niqqa wrote absolutely rubbish with no solution to our current Predicament


Please highlight anything we can take from what he wrote and implement on super eagles moving forward
I am for utilizing homegrown talent . Our foreign born players don’t possess that naija mental fortitude which was glaring even at the Afcon. Yes look man is exceptional but an exception is not the case here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 9JAMac10: 11:35pm On Jun 11
Remember 2010 World Cup. Mozambican team helped Nigeria qualify ahead of Tunisia 🇹🇳. Never say never naija can still sneak in the World Cup

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