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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by faithtemisan93(f): 9:55am On Jun 12
humility33:
NFF should please as a matter of urgency sack Finidi and quickly employ that pep former assistant or any other good foreign Coach with zero tolerance for mediocrity charge with the task to qualify Nigeria for the World Cup
2030 world cup?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:58am On Jun 12
lovewins:


What you fail to realise is that our qualification is no longer in our hands. Even if we hypothetically win all of our games, any of those teams with 7 points can still afford to lose one game to us and win the rest and still qualify. So we do not just need to win we need 3 teams to lose to us and draw or lose at least 1 more game.



I can say only Benin 🇧🇯 might have dt mentality to win all deir games (due to rohr factor),but d South Africa 🇿🇦 I knw are also bottlers .Dey can be very funny at times,just like our team


Like I said …d team characters in dis group has shown dt Dey re susceptible to dropping points .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by faithtemisan93(f): 9:58am On Jun 12
komekn:


Nwabali made a huge school boy error, running out of his goal in panic leaving it WIDE OPEN gifting a goal to Ishola Olaitan.

Bassey missed the clearance but had time to recover narrow the angle, block the shot, out muscle Ishola and or tackle him.

Nwabali gifted the goal poor decision making.

Nwabali is not better than OKOYE that's not proven, add to that players improve. The Okoyr of today is not the same as yesterday

Nwabali is miles ahead of Okoye


And it has been proven

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 10:01am On Jun 12
Yes we have a problem defensively, but we have an even bigger problem offensively.

Since the World cup qualifiers started we have played a total of 14 games and have scored a total of 14 goals. With our supposed world class attacking roster we average just one goal a game. We are struggling to score goals and the simple reason is because we've been figured out offensively.

Nigeria for the most part plays through the wings to score. Any coach worth his salt who has watched enough of our tapes will easily figure that out. Once upon a time we have skillful players like J.J (maybe Mikel) who provided options for us who could drive the ball through the middle and get some defensive attention freeing the wings a little. Now we don't have that.

South Africa and Benin just focused their defensive on Lookman and Chukwueze. The middle was the freest in both games but we had no player who could take the initiative to go through the middle. If we had explored both we probably would have scored more goals. This is where players in the mold of Eze and Olise could help.

Guess how we scored both goals? Fisayo and Onyedika through the middle.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 10:02am On Jun 12
elyte89:



I can say only Benin 🇧🇯 might have dt mentality to win all deir games (due to rohr factor),but d South Africa 🇿🇦 I knw are also bottlers .Dey can be very funny at times,just like our team


Like I said …d team characters in dis group has shown dt Dey re susceptible to dropping points .

I don't disagree, I just wanted to bring to the fore the fact that it's no longer in our hands.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 10:09am On Jun 12
lovewins:
Yes we have a problem defensively, but we have an even bigger problem offensively.

Since the World cup qualifiers started we have played a total of 14 games and have scored a total of 14 goals. With our supposed world class attacking roster we average just one goal a game. We are struggling to score goals and the simple reason is because we've been figured out offensively.

Nigeria for the most part plays through the wings to score. Any coach worth his salt who has watched enough of our tapes will easily figure that out. Once upon a time we have skillful players like J.J (maybe Mikel) who provided options for us who could drive the ball through the middle and get some defensive attention freeing the wings a little. Now we don't have that.

South Africa and Benin just focused their defensive on Lookman and Chukwueze. The middle was the freest in both games but we had no player who could take the initiative to go through the middle. If we had explored both we probably would have scored more goals. This is where players in the mold of Eze and Olise could help.

Guess how we scored both goals? Fisayo and Onyedika through the middle.


and we still want to stick with this man-city pattern with no available players abi, dey play
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:12am On Jun 12
lovewins:
Yes we have a problem defensively, but we have an even bigger problem offensively.

Since the World cup qualifiers started we have played a total of 14 games and have scored a total of 14 goals. With our supposed world class attacking roster we average just one goal a game. We are struggling to score goals and the simple reason is because we've been figured out offensively.

Nigeria for the most part plays through the wings to score. Any coach worth his salt who has watched enough of our tapes will easily figure that out. Once upon a time we have skillful players like J.J (maybe Mikel) who provided options for us who could drive the ball through the middle and get some defensive attention freeing the wings a little. Now we don't have that.

South Africa and Benin just focused their defensive on Lookman and Chukwueze. The middle was the freest in both games but we had no player who could take the initiative to go through the middle. If we had explored both we probably would have scored more goals. This is where players in the mold of Eze and Olise could help.

Guess how we scored both goals? Fisayo and Onyedika through the middle.




One issue I've observed is that Iwobi is doing too much currently. He drops deep to receive and the buck of progression and creativity still lies on him, especially due to expectations. He can't be doing that all 90. Another person gats do that and allow this guy flourish in his main role. This is where Ndidi needs sit out henceforth too. He was nowhere available for connecting passes from the CBs in that 1st half. It was too Terrible. Off the ball, it was still iwobi trying to create options just by moving into space and was also the quickest with passes compare to the other two midfield partners. We can't even be fast on counter. We allowed them to keep recovering and then have no idea to break them down until we lose the ball and they use sleek passes to progress into our box without any resistance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 10:23am On Jun 12
Funny how some still manage to blame the players knowing full well that the coach/NFF were responsible for their invitation and roles on the pitch.

Modern footie is highly scientific from the coaching perspective and I think this is where most of our coaches come up short.

Rohr did a thorough homework on our team especially after the SA game and apparently Finidi did a very shabby job in prepping his team. Eguavoen and Finidi have shown difficulty finding a way around teams that sit deep in a low block... simply throwing in more forwards doesn't increase the chances of goal scoring.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 10:24am On Jun 12
daveP:


One issue I've observed is that Iwobi is doing too much currently. He drops deep to receive and the buck of progression and creativity still lies on him, especially due to expectations. He can't be doing that all 90. Another person gats do that and allow this guy flourish in his main role. This is where Ndidi needs sit out henceforth too. He was nowhere available for connecting passes from the CBs in that 1st half. It was too Terrible. Off the ball, it was still iwobi trying to create options just by moving into space and was also the quickest with passes compare to the other two midfield partners. We can't even be fast on counter. We allowed them to keep recovering and then have no idea to break them down until we lose the ball and they use sleek passes to progress into our box without any resistance.

Iwobi can help offensively and I agree Ndidi shouldn't even be in the conversation again, but Iwobi is still not that guy. You'll notice his reluctance anytime he has an opportunity to shoot, it is because he's not a great shooter of the ball. We need someone who is actually a threat offensively, not just someone who creates chances and Iwobi isn't that person.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 10:31am On Jun 12
Please let's focus on our darling Super Falcons and their preparation for Olympics and forget those yeye super chickens. Female football makes more sense now than male.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 10:58am On Jun 12
What is a Midfielder that can't shoot?

IWOBI (Offers nothing than passes, can't even dribble to save his life) yet lazy.


Onyedika is so sweet on the ball. Proper baller. .. let me stop there8) please what can we do to get Nwakali in this team to pair ONYEDIKA in our Midfield? cool

I need someone with good football formation knowledge to tell use if, Onyedika, Nwakali and Dele Bashiru Midfield can work.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 11:00am On Jun 12
lovewins:


Iwobi can help offensively and I agree Ndidi shouldn't even be in the conversation again, but Iwobi is still not that guy. You'll notice his reluctance anytime he has an opportunity to shoot, it is because he's not a great shooter of the ball. We need someone who is actually a threat offensively, not just someone who creates chances and Iwobi isn't that person.
Please tell us what IWOBI offers than pass. Yeye passes, someone that can't shoot or dribble.Get me Nwakal please cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by faithtemisan93(f): 11:11am On Jun 12
joelsteron:

Please tell us what IWOBI offers than pass. Yeye passes, someone that can't shoot or dribble.Get me Nwakal please cool
Even the pass don dey turn baby pass


We thought it was only baby shoot
But we don dey see baby pass

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:13am On Jun 12
lovewins:


Iwobi can help offensively and I agree Ndidi shouldn't even be in the conversation again, but Iwobi is still not that guy. You'll notice his reluctance anytime he has an opportunity to shoot, it is because he's not a great shooter of the ball. We need someone who is actually a threat offensively, not just someone who creates chances and Iwobi isn't that person.
Very correct. For example, Fisayo's goal is that offensive threat we need from our MFs. I wasn't expecting he would shoot at all, heck the SA defense were anticipating double marking Lookman on the left because they were not expecting a shot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 11:43am On Jun 12
Yeah even in club football Iwobi barely scores except for last season even then the figures were modest.

Against SA there were times he could have unleashed a first time shot but his hesitation allowed them to get back into defensive formation.

Fisayo looks a more goal scoring minded midfielder not yet sure what he will be able to bring creative wise.

JJ despite being a defensive and sometimes tactical liability brought both aspects to the team.

Our attack is still too predictable needs more freshening up.

lovewins:


Iwobi can help offensively and I agree Ndidi shouldn't even be in the conversation again, but Iwobi is still not that guy. You'll notice his reluctance anytime he has an opportunity to shoot, it is because he's not a great shooter of the ball. We need someone who is actually a threat offensively, not just someone who creates chances and Iwobi isn't that person.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by faithtemisan93(f): 11:46am On Jun 12
chrisooblog:
Yeah even in club football Iwobi barely scores except for last season even then the figures were modest.

Against SA there were times he could have unleashed a first time shot but his hesitation allowed them to get back into defensive formation.

Fisayo looks a more goal scoring minded midfielder not yet sure what he will be able to bring creative wise.

JJ despite being a defensive and sometimes tactical liability brought both aspects to the team.

Our attack is still too predictable needs more freshening up.

Funny enough Jay Jay only scored 14 goals for the super Eagles


Iwobi has scored 10

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:22pm On Jun 12
faithtemisan93:
Funny enough Jay Jay only scored 14 goals for the super Eagles


Iwobi has scored 10
This is the difference…Okocha goals are remarkable goals,scored when we needed it most,oh you forgot his free kick goal against Cameroon and scored four goals in Afcon ….Reason why players like Emenike and Ighalo would always be remembered cuz they did it in Afcons 2013 and 2019 respectively.Don’t let me forget Sunday Mba and also Ahmed Musa with four WC goals.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:24pm On Jun 12
joelsteron:


I was expecting s logical conversation though I grin grin
There is nothing logical about your insinuation.

1. You're using the fact that Finidi (a tactically limited coach) subbed out some player at half time, to determine who should be axed from the team. Does that make sense to you?

2. Iwobi and Nwabali have been integral part of that team since AFCON but you want them out of the team.

Again, think and ask yourself if that doesn't sound dumb. If you as a fan are making these kind of suggestions, what is now the difference between you and Finidi?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:25pm On Jun 12
Odunayaw:
No be majority of these players wey go AFCON?
Some of them no dey the team now especially the starters.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:26pm On Jun 12
Joebie:
Your children go boarding house dem behave themselves. When Dey come house, they misbehave. Who you go come blame?

If your 14 year-old boy come back from boarding house begin shit for body, who people go blame?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 12:29pm On Jun 12
solonnachi:
Please let's focus on our darling Super Falcons and their preparation for Olympics and forget those yeye super chickens. Female football makes more sense now than male.
No too put mind for that one Chief. They will be facing Brazil, Japan and Spain. And their coach is Randy Waldrum.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 12:37pm On Jun 12
lovewins:
Yes we have a problem defensively, but we have an even bigger problem offensively.

Since the World cup qualifiers started we have played a total of 14 games and have scored a total of 14 goals. With our supposed world class attacking roster we average just one goal a game. We are struggling to score goals and the simple reason is because we've been figured out offensively.

Nigeria for the most part plays through the wings to score. Any coach worth his salt who has watched enough of our tapes will easily figure that out. Once upon a time we have skillful players like J.J (maybe Mikel) who provided options for us who could drive the ball through the middle and get some defensive attention freeing the wings a little. Now we don't have that.

South Africa and Benin just focused their defensive on Lookman and Chukwueze. The middle was the freest in both games but we had no player who could take the initiative to go through the middle. If we had explored both we probably would have scored more goals. This is where players in the mold of Eze and Olise could help.

Guess how we scored both goals? Fisayo and Onyedika through the middle.

not really figured out. Our strikers just seem to have forgotten how to score during this period you highlighted. Right from the qualifiers to the afcon. We created more than enough chances but it seems our strikers were shy of the net for some reasons.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 12:37pm On Jun 12
You're right however Alex's goal return over the past few years has been limited. I think he can do more.

faithtemisan93:
Funny enough Jay Jay only scored 14 goals for the super Eagles


Iwobi has scored 10
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:37pm On Jun 12
ChrisKels:
Personally, I think SA stands a better chance of making it to the world cup ahead of Nigeria.

The day i made this post in May even long before Finidi released his world cup list, the kind of attacks I got especially from some immature guys who felt that the post was to spite Finidi in the favour of Amunike. Now breeze dun blow for fowl yansh angry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 1:03pm On Jun 12
mostob:
There is nothing logical about your insinuation.

1. You're using the fact that Finidi (a tactically limited coach) subbed out some player at half time, to determine who should be axed from the team. Does that make sense to you?

2. Iwobi and Nwabali have been integral part of that team since AFCON but you want them out of the team.

Again, think and ask yourself if that doesn't sound dumb. If you as a fan are making these kind of suggestions, what is now the difference between you and Finidi?

You have singled out 2 persons from my list. Good, now tell us what Iwobi offers to that team other than pass. Yeye pass. To shoot na work. Check Onyedika now.. We need Nwakali please.

Nwabali cannot lace Okoye's boot. Passing around balls to defenders doesn't translate to a good keeper. He has cost useless Uzoho kinds of Goals. Fans will soon have his time. End.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 1:05pm On Jun 12
ChrisKels:


The day i made this post in May even long before Finidi released his world cup list, the kind of attacks I got especially from some immature guys who felt that the post was to spite Finidi in the favour of Amunike. Now breeze dun blow for fowl yansh angry

If NFF mean business they will sack FINIDI.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:06pm On Jun 12
lovewins:


Iwobi can help offensively and I agree Ndidi shouldn't even be in the conversation again, but Iwobi is still not that guy. You'll notice his reluctance anytime he has an opportunity to shoot, it is because he's not a great shooter of the ball. We need someone who is actually a threat offensively, not just someone who creates chances and Iwobi isn't that person.

That shooting aspect just dey vex me. Fact however is that the team needs him more now. I dunno why no coach has screamed down his neck to shoot. Like what happened to the kind of stunner like Europa League final that year. He's indispensable right now because without him in the setup, creativity is gone. And that's annoying. Iwobi will create and drag bodies to himself which is his Fulham pattern too. Na tap in he dey score pass😂

If only he can do more with shooting. Oyo for whoever things he no dey do anything in the middle o. Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:07pm On Jun 12
joelsteron:


If NFF means business they will sack FINIDI.


It’s eida Dey sack him or employ a competent coach whether local or foreign to d crew as technical adviser …simple

If we can do dt, we re qualifying 💯,anything sort of this ,it’s zero
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 2:14pm On Jun 12
daveP:


That shooting aspect just dey vex me. Fact however is that the team needs him more now. I dunno why no coach has screamed down his neck to shoot. Like what happened to the kind of stunner like Europa League final that year. He's indispensable right now because without him in the setup, creativity is gone. And that's annoying. Iwobi will create and drag bodies to himself which is his Fulham pattern too. Na tap in he dey score pass😂

If only he can do more with shooting. Oyo for whoever things he no dey do anything in the middle o. Lol

Una wan force am Dey shoot? Na by force? 😂

Abeg make Una leave the boy alone if he begin shoot now Dey balloon anyhow na we go still complain o!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 2:16pm On Jun 12
elyte89:



It’s eida Dey sack him or employ a competent coach whether local or foreign to d crew as technical adviser …simple

If we can do dt, we re qualifying 💯,anything sort of this ,it’s zero

Sack or leave Finidi we have lost our way! Can’t see this team winning all the remaining matches they may not lose but to win all without draw soup na tall order
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 2:29pm On Jun 12
Goke7:


Sack or leave Finidi we have lost our way! Can’t see this team winning all the remaining matches they may not lose but to win all without draw soup na tall order

Den if we can’t win those games(an afcon finalist) ;most especially

Our home games against Benin 🇧🇯, Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 and Rwanda 🇷🇼


And a game with Lesotho 🇱🇸 at a neutral ground

Haba ,den we shld be banned for 10years den,we re worse Dan been called minnows niyen
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:34pm On Jun 12
Based on reports in OGN and Score, NFF doesn't look like they would fire FG. In that case, I feel and think we would miss out with FG still in charge.

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