MaxInDHouse:

OK nah!

Pls sir
Just ignore him completely
He's not worth your valuable time or comments
He wants you to interact with him

When I check my mentions and I see him name, I just simply scroll down or navigate back without reading his contents. Is his comments worth reading, is he worth answering him? He's not worth it

MaxInDHouse:

Continue deceiving yourself!
You have found out that an organization has been lying to you for so long but you're afraid of loosing those who are still buying and selling the same lies that you detest.

Ọmọ stop lying to your own soul.
You can never ever find real friends outside the organization of God that's what makes all apostates thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses always.
After leaving my former religion i never looked back for once in fact they are the ones begging me to come back and associate with them and that they will never ever speak against my faith again.
Something i thought could never be possible the way they all treated me as if becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses is the WORSTEST crime ever.
After almost two decades they now realized the precious gem they lost to the JWs!

God's organization that is covering up child sexual abuse cases.

Aemmyjah:

Pls sir
Just ignore him completely
He's not worth your valuable time or comments
He wants you to interact with him
When I check my mentions and I see him name, I just simply scroll down or navigate back without reading his contents. Is his comments worth reading, is he worth answering him? He's not worth it

Thanks my brother!

MaxInDHouse:

Sorry for your condition but i don't associate with the timid so if you're not bold enough to take your stand against all odds then you and i can never ever be on the same page !

The liar and manipulator calls him timid. One of your brother and friend in Jehovah's Witness definitely not enemies or neighbours just rendered your Jesus Christ began ruling in 1914 useless.


When he disassociate he won't be on the same page with you and now he already shows that your one line of thought in your midst na lies and manipulations

cc Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron

MaxInDHouse:

Of course they took away all the immoral lifestyles you are longing for now shey?

Abeg comot for God's organization and allow the humble ones seeking righteousness to enjoy God's organization!

I purposely ignored your thread after knowing who you are:

https://www.nairaland.com/8121602/13-critical-thinking-questions-every

If you're into pornography to the extent of joining the SEX section on Nairaland and posting nude pictures.
What profitable thing can come from you to benefit those seeking righteousness? Zephaniah 2:2-3

Wow
epic response sir
You're like an investigative agent
You should have blurred that image os painted it cos that person would remember what he or she did but these stupid apostates will try to manipulate it against you too fool immature, old people like Fxmasterz

wumiwumi100:

Bro, try to reason well. All my life I have been taught not to make friends with anyone outside the organization. I was baptized at the age of 10, became a Ministerial Servant at 19, and an Elder at 25. Earlier this year, I came to understand why I can't trust the Governing Body anymore. My difficulty in making friends was due to Watchtower's brainwashing teachings. I am thankful that I am making progress in making new friends, and by the end of this year, I will say goodbye to the organization that took all my youth away.

Maxindhouse cannot relate with you.

It is your shoes, you alone knows where it pinches.

You're right when you said that your inability to have friends outside the religion is as a result of their weekly brainwashing and indoctrination.

How can you make friends outside the religion when you were taught that all non-JWs are "worldy" people?

You were taught to see billions of non-JWs as "goats" who if they don't accept Watchtower and become a baptized JW, they stand the risk of been KILLED in the war of Armageddon where birds would eat their decomposing flesh.

Stay strong.

You have won half of the battle by recognizing the many LIES of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Remember that you're never alone - there are many others like you with similar experiences and they're thriving even after they left this religious cult.

Be open minded, learn to see the good in others and always remember that we're all brothers and sisters, no matter our religion, tribe or race.

Cheers bro!

wumiwumi100:
What does the Bible say about 607 B.C.E?
Zechariah 7:1 The "fourth year of King Darius" is December 518 B.C.E. The organization agrees with this.

Zechariah 7:3 The people of Bethel were asking the religious leaders if they should continue to weep and fast each year to commemorate the fall of Jerusalem. Since they asked this in December 518 B.C.E. they were asking about the upcoming month in July/August of 517 B.C.E.

Zechariah 7:5 "In the fifth month and in the seventh month" is a clear reference to the destruction of Jerusalem (2 Kings 25:8, 25). They said they had been commemorating Jerusalem's destruction for 70 years. So counting back 70 years from 517 B.C.E. takes you to exactly 587 B.C.E. That's around the year all archeologists put Jerusalem's destruction at. The Bible confirms that year internally.

Summary The organization has ignored this section of Zechariah for decades. An attempt was made to explain it in Aid to Bible Understanding (page 339) where the claim was that they fasted for 70 years, stopped for 20 years, and then asked if they should stop. Unsurprisingly, that paragraph was taken out of the Insight Books (volume 1, page 463) because the reasoning doesn't make any sense. There was even a two-part article about the date of Jerusalem's destruction in the October 1st & November 1st 2011 Watchtower, and Zechariah was completely ignored in that discussion. The governing body knows these verses are a problem, because it completely agrees with the date archeologists give.

Indisputable Facts In 1914 the world population was around 1.8 billion people. Over 110 years later, the population of China alone is 1.5 billion. When Muslim majority countries are included, at minimum there are well over 3 billion people with no chance of being contacted. So how can 607 B.C.E. and 1914 C.E. have significance if after 110 years of preaching and warning there are more uncontacted people than when the "last days" started?

I equally have something regarding this Zechariah too that they kept running away from. Na inside cooler that one dey. MaxInDHouse and Aemmyjah are still finding their feet in that religious organization.

Na la cram la pour dem dey do

wumiwumi100:
Seven Times : 607 : 1914
Daniel's prophecy of the Seven Times is key to the existence of Jehovah's Witnesses. This is used to determine that Jesus started ruling in 1914 and subsequently chose the Watchtower organization in 1919 to be his sole means of salvation before the battle of Armageddon.


This section is divided into sections, each proving from a different angle that Daniel 4 cannot be used to show Jesus started ruling in 1914.

Jerusalem did not fall in 607 B.C.
Watchtower 2011, Oct 1 & Nov 1

The October and November 1st 2011 Watchtower attempt to prove that Jerusalem fell in 607, rather than the historically accepted 587. Download in PDF format Part 1 and Part 2 of Carl Jonsson's brilliant examination of these Watchtower articles, which show the intellectual dishonesty of Watchtower by including inaccurate information and misquotes.

For the seven times to end in 1914, the Watchtower is forced to claim Jerusalem was destroyed and completely desolate in 607 B.C. However, it is universally accepted that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 B.C. This section shows that the evidence is conclusive that Jerusalem did not fall in 607 B.C.

The Watchtower claims secular evidence regarding 587 is incorrect because it disagrees with Bible Chronology. In reality, secular evidence does not contradict Bible chronology, but rather the flawed Watchtower interpretation of Bible chronology.
more …

Inconsistent Methodology
Discussion of the Watchtower interpretation of the Seven Times generally focuses on 607 or 587. The starting point really should be that Daniel 4 is not an end time prophecy. Since each prophecy in Daniel had only one fulfilment, there is no reason to believe Daniel 4 should contain two prophetic messages.

Recognising that Daniel 4 is not an end time prophecy makes the rest of the information presented somewhat redundant. However, for Jehovah's Witnesses intent on insisting that there should be a secondary application, examination of the Watchtower's interpretative methodology reveals it to be illogical and grossly inconsistent. This section dissects how the prophecy is calculated and the methodological flaws.
more …

When were the 70 years?
The Watchtower claims historians are wrong regarding 587 B.C. because the year 607 B.C. is necessary to reconcile the Bible's claim of a 70 year period of desolation. This is incorrect, as it can be shown that the 607 B.C. fabrication is not required for the 70 year period to hold true.
more …

Historical development of the prophecy
It is a common Witness misconception that the Watchtower was miraculously guided by holy spirit to understand that the last days were to start in 1914. In actual fact, the Watchtower interpretation of the Seven Times was taken from 19th century Second Adventist preachers. Furthermore, the prophecy was originally used to predict the world would end in 1914.
more …

Did the Last Days Start 1914?
The Watchtower attempts to support its claim that the Last Days started in 1914 by presenting information to prove there are substantially more earthquakes, wars, famine and sickness since the start of the twentieth century. This article shows how inaccurate and dishonest such information is.
more …


A person should be realistic about the ability of the Watchtower Society to interpret prophecy. To date there has been a proven time prophecy failure rate of 100%. As shown in the Dates section, the Watchtower used Bible prophecy to explain that the following dates were of significance; 1780, 1799, 1829, 1844, 1846, 1872, 1874, 1875, 1878, 1880, 1881, 1891, 1906, 1910, 1915, 1920, 1921 and 1925. Every single one of these interpretations is now admitted as wrong. Even 1914 and 1918 were not fulfilled as expected and subsequently reinterpreted after the event. This does not inspire confidence that Holy Spirit guides Watchtower prophetic interpretation, or that current understanding of 1914 is correct.

Another sweet rebuttal

oteneaaron:


Wow.

I can understand the fear of been shunned by your family members.

Congratulations for learning the truth about the "truth".

Evidence that MaxInDHouse one line of thought don't exist in their midst. Thousands na PIMO hanging in there until the conditions becomes right to leave for them

MaxInDHouse:

Of course they took away all the immoral lifestyles you are longing for now shey?

Abeg comot for God's organization and allow the humble ones seeking righteousness to enjoy God's organization!

I purposely ignored your thread after knowing who you are:

https://www.nairaland.com/8121602/13-critical-thinking-questions-every

If you're into pornography to the extent of joining the SEX section on Nairaland and posting nude pictures.
What profitable thing can come from you to benefit those seeking righteousness? Zephaniah 2:2-3

You are a mumu Man, the evernaija is a blog that carry viral gist, politics news and celebrity news not a porn.

Aemmyjah:

Wow
epic response sir
You're like an investigative agent
You should have blurred that image os painted it cos that person would remember what he or she did but these apostates will try to manipulate it against you two immature, old people like Fxmasterz

Please edit the derogatory names leave that for them.

What the apostate doesn't know is that Maximus has been fortified with wisdom and knowledge that no enemy of God's organization can silence rather we are the one that will silence apostates and render them speechless.. Isaiah 54:17
Of course there is room for insults but strong points no one can deby nah JWs get am!

MaxInDHouse:

Agreed!

That agreed na part of your lies and manipulations in your brains

wumiwumi100:

You are a mumu Man,

OK i'm learning from you now, can you please bring more?

oteneaaron:


Beth Sarim was a huge scandal related with the 1925 false prophecy.

J. F Rutherford was living large in Beth Sarim while the rest of JWs were bitten hard by the great depression.

And yet God's kingdom is coming . The same thing is happening now. They sold their brooklyn headquarters and started more sophisticated buildings and expanding it like never before. Yet God's kingdom is coming in 1914

achorladey:


They can choose to go to pluto to differentiate themselves from others, they will still give account like others .

Sure!

wumiwumi100:


It's not easy. I was born into the organization and have only known people inside it. However, I am working on disassociating myself. I am trying to prepare by making friends with non-JWs and engaging in different activities that will help me make meaningful friends outside the JW organization.

No problems at all. I always say that the queue for those wanting to leave is long. When you reach the front of the queue. You will drop your disassociation letter and leave.

Na time e go chop as you stay on the queue before you reach front. You don't know the extent of lies and manipulations your experience expose in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses

wumiwumi100:
They claim they are being directed by God's holy spirit, but they keep making false predictions. I always ask myself, does God's holy spirit lie? All the prophets in the Bible carried out God's messages correctly, and none were false. The Watchtower likes to call other religions false, but they are the definition of false religion.

We have come to see that others being false Christian or false religion is simply because they are not part of Jehovah's Witnesses religious organization. No more no less. Any other thing na wash

The experience, actions, words of MaxInDHouse and his crew of liars and manipulators confirms it.

MaxInDHouse:


I wasn't born a JW and it never took me more than few months to forget anyone who isn't a friend of God's organization:

Do not think I came to bring peace to the earth; I came to bring, not peace, but a sword.  For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and whoever has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not accept his torture stake and follow after me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his soul will lose it, and whoever loses his soul for my sake will find it. Matthew 10:34-39

Do you still remember the above speech?

Well it's from Jesus himself so if you're timid you can't be his friend!

MaxInDHouse is the wunmi your friend or your enemy or neighbour?

He is still one of Jehovah's Witnesses

MaxInDHouse:

Of course they took away all the immoral lifestyles you are longing for now shey?

Abeg comot for God's organization and allow the humble ones seeking righteousness to enjoy God's organization!

I purposely ignored your thread after knowing who you are:

https://www.nairaland.com/8121602/13-critical-thinking-questions-every

If you're into pornography to the extent of joining the SEX section on Nairaland and posting nude pictures.
What profitable thing can come from you to benefit those seeking righteousness? Zephaniah 2:2-3

Shame on you Max.

Why didn't you take a screenshot of all the threads he has ever created?

It is quite obvious that around 2016, wumiwumi100 was managing a blog called - evernaija(dot)com.

As a blogger, it is your goal to publish content that is intriguing enough to send massive traffic to your blog.

More traffic = Ad revenue.

Anyone who goes through his profile can reach the same conclusion.

Here you are trying to throw dirt on his personality just because he wants to leave your religion after doing his research and learning about the many LIES of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Shame on you for being so petty.

Your hypocrisy will not allow you rememeber that even your religion is making money from the sale of weapons, tobacco cigarettes and pornography - this is a FACT because there is evidence to prove this.

wumiwumi100:
You just proved to me even more why I should disassociate myself soon. According to you, anyone who is not a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses is not a friend of God because you believe the JW organization is God's organization. I can't blame you because that was what I believed in the past before I realized I had been lied to my whole life.

He has called us enemies thousands of times here. He has made us enemies of his religious organization thousands of times. He will equally ask you to make enemies out of people that you have no issues with just to advance lies and manipulations of his religious organization


Their friendship is conditional on keep dancing to the lies and manipulations of that religious organization. The moment you stop dancing. You become enemies. We have shown them live evidence where the organization says they must believe lies at all cost to maintain unity

Aemmyjah:

Wow
epic response sir
You're like an investigative agent!

God's organization said it today in the study edition of Watchtower:

On the other hand, a Christian who remains immature can easily be misled by “trickery” and “deceptive schemes” and be taken in by conspiracy theorists and apostates. (Read Ephesians 4:14, 15.) He may be prone to being jealous, creating strife, taking offense, or yielding to temptation.​—1 Cor. 3:3

Such ones aren't growing spiritually but since their parents are influencing them you will think they are growing spiritually speaking.
Remember the Watchtower said they can't make sound decisions on their own it's either their parents or others that's deciding for them Whereas each person will carry his own load! Galatians 6:5

Aemmyjah:
Bros
Answer my question
Is that how to answer it?
I won't click that link unless you address me directly

Your blood is getting high, keep it up!

The link is from this same thread not even outside link.

Now, only JWs mention 607 BCE (maybe there's others but my personal research mentions only JWs and my other statement was written that was to lead you to this) was the date Jerusalem was sacked
Since the Jews were released in 537 BCE, that would mark the 70 years of returning to the desolate land as Jehovah himself prophecied

The fact that ONLY Jws is using this DATE 607 should first help you to ask genuine question.

Why ONLY JWS?

When the same Jws agreed with the same historians DATE.

Emusan, since Jehovah said the land will be desolate for 70 years, was this prophecy fulfilled or not?

Already answered.

You switched off your brain then!

If you mention 587 to 537 BCE, will that make it accurate or inaccurate
If JW mention 607 BCE, will that make it accurate or inaccurate?

That is why you don't know what the prophecy all about.

In case you don't know the prophecy of 70years are about 3 different category.

Just take your time to click the link.

Pele...

Which one is accurate
History data of 587 to 537BCE = 50years
Or 607 to 537bce= 70 years

You're still ignorance of the prophecy in the first first place.

Did archeological evidence support 587BC

Your desperate attempt to discredit us has made you a fool cos you're directly or indirectly disputing the Bible that Jerusalem will be desolate for 70 years. You're as envious as the Pharisees

First of all, I'm not the archeologists who put the date in 587BC

Secondly, the archeologists did their jobs not because of watchtower in fact, watchtower is of no important to them.

Lastly, I'm in support of Bible and God.

That watchtower decided to twist God's word doesn't mean I'm against God and His word.

You can disregard ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE while claiming you supported God.

That is exactly what Fxmasterz did. He could not answer a Muslims challenge but himself attributed errors to the Bible while still fighting me. You want to take the side of what historians and fight Bible JWs

How does that relate to my post?

Well, as always, let God be true and historian, archaeology man be a liar.

If not for ignorance, if historians/archeologists should be a liar.

Then the date 537BC you added 70years to to arrive at 607BC will also be lie.

Does that make any sense to you or you're just speaking out of frustration and ignorance.

Are JWs plotting a desperate attempt to fabricate a date to make Jehovah's word accurate? No

Yes!

You don't even like JWs already so it should not be your problem.

ANd it's your problem!

Your organization cannot even achieve 1 tenth of what Jehovah is accomplishing through us that to mislead you to make your religious leaders fatter and wealthier but you're praying for daily bread

We have achieved more than what watchtower couldn't achieve for over 100 years of fruitless effort.

oteneaaron:

It is quite obvious that around 2016, wumiwumi100 was managing a blog called - evernaija(dot)com.

And it's OK for a member of God's organization to share nude pictures on social media shey?

MaxInDHouse:

Continue deceiving yourself!
You have found out that an organization has been lying to you for so long but you're afraid of loosing those who are still buying and selling the same lies that you detest.

Ọmọ stop lying to your own soul.
You can never ever find real friends outside the organization of God that's what makes all apostates thinking about Jehovah's Witnesses always.
After leaving my former religion i never looked back for once in fact they are the ones begging me to come back and associate with them and that they will never ever speak against my faith again.
Something i thought could never be possible the way they all treated me as if becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses is the WORSTEST crime ever.
After almost two decades they now realized the precious gem they lost to the JWs!

We know how you lament about our reasoning skills here while still one of Jehovah's Witnesses

We can never have real friendship you always look for ways to throw spanners between myself and the following Emusan, FxMasterz, Courz, Oteneaaron

Continue your lies and manipulations in your brains

MaxInDHouse:


Please edit the derogatory names leave that for them.

What the apostate doesn't know is that Maximus has been fortified with wisdom and knowledge that no enemy of God's organization can silence rather we are the one that will silence apostates and render them speechless.. Isaiah 54:17
Of course there is room for insults but strong points no one can deby nah JWs get am!

HYPOCRISY is smelling.

Look at this man that has insulted many people on Nairaland trying to form holy.

😂😂😂

Just a little poke and your true nature will be revealed.

We know your modus operandi.

😂😂😂

Emusan:


Do you use yours?



Then who denied the 70 years period of captivity?



Yet you said you don't talk about the destruction of Jerusalem.

So where did you get the date 587BC if not the date JERUSALEM WAS DESTROYED?



So jws aren't the only GROUP that adopted 607BC, that is good to know.



You still think people who said Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC said 70years wasn't accurate?

That is where you'll know you don't understand what the discussion was all about.



Not as bright as your folly!

Sweet

Aemmyjah:



Are JW the only group that adopted 607 as the year that Jerusalem was destroyed? Yes or No

Time to show semblance between the better performing performance group and the bad performing performance group.


Once your lies and manipulations are busted you seek cover among those equally peddling such lies and manipulations

Learn, no way.

oteneaaron:

HYPOCRISY is smelling.
Look at this man that has insulted many people on Nairaland trying to form holy.
😂😂😂
Just a little poke and your true nature will be revealed.
We know your modus operandi.
😂😂😂

Thanks for commenting!

Aemmyjah:



Oga, explain how they spent 70 years in captivity
Remember the Bible said the land will be desolate for 70 years

Oya explain na
Lemme learn from you

Date is now irrelevant it is how they spend 70 years in captivity that is next. It is how they spend the 70 years that will make 1914 true regarding Jesus began ruling

achorladey:


The liar and manipulator calls him timid. One of your brother and friend in Jehovah's Witness definitely not enemies or neighbours just rendered your Jesus Christ began ruling in 1914 useless.


When he disassociate he won't be on the same page with you and now he already shows that your one line of thought in your midst na lies and manipulations

cc Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron

The man has not even left Jws but see the hatred towards his person.

He is still one of JWS for now and there's no one line of thought.

MaxInDHouse:

And it's OK for a member of God's organization to share nude pictures on social media shey?

Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to make money from the sale of weapons, tobacco cigarettes and the porn industry?

Is it OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to use the two witness rule to protect pedophiles who rape children in the organization?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to accept free money from the Norwegian Gambling Authority?

Is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to be registered members of the United Nations for 10 years even when the United Nations is the scarlet colored wild beast?

If you agree that it is OK for the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses to do these things without any repercussion, then you have no right to question wumiwumi100.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

oteneaaron:


HYPOCRISY is smelling.

Look at this man that has insulted many people on Nairaland trying to form holy.

😂😂😂

Just a little poke and your true nature will be revealed.

We know your modus operandi.

😂😂😂

You don't know him,

To him the elder here won't know his works of the past, maybe that can still convince the elder not to leave watchtower