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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by RealityKings: 11:55am On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


If he can use ordinary handkerchief to grow breast in 2 weeks imagine the quality of BBL and boob job possible with bedsheet and 1 month germination period.

grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:06pm On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


If he can use ordinary handkerchief to grow breast in 2 weeks imagine the quality of BBL and boob job possible with bedsheet and 1 month germination period.
He's running a not for profit business grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:11pm On Jun 19
GloriousGbola:


You run a business so you actually know how it goes.

There are all sorts of leakages where you can still be profitable as long as money is coming in. If you have a dip in your cash flow, those leakages will become serious problems

The company I was referencing was getting regular inflows from their foreign partners. Then one day The partners said - we invested in Kenya and Nigeria at the same time. The Kenya operation is how self sufficient, while the Nigerian operation is not. They stopped investing and that was the end. The company could not sustain itself because the operating capital had been looted

A business can survive an economic downturn or internal leakages. But very few can survive both.
I get you, businesses can't survive leakages from so many fronts and stay profitable, but my point is, if thieves were ripping these businesses off since before 1999, we can pretty much call business theft a constant, and the variable will be the quality of governance that makes these businesses stay profitable despite theft, meaning the "real" cause of these businesses tanking isn't the theft, but the dip in the quality of governance.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:13pm On Jun 19
Theflint1:
He's running a not for profit business grin

philambatropist. cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Godstime001: 12:13pm On Jun 19
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:16pm On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


philambatropist. cheesy
grin grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 12:22pm On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


If he can use ordinary handkerchief to grow breast in 2 weeks imagine the quality of BBL and boob job possible with bedsheet and 1 month germination period.
Doc, Miracles still happen ... Stop seeing everything from the professional point of view!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:24pm On Jun 19
Ihebu4chelsea:
Doc, Miracles still happen ... Stop seeing everything from the professional point of view!

If BBL and boob job can be done with handkerchief or bedsheet, is that not a miracle?

We are saying the same thing!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:25pm On Jun 19
Theflint1:
I get you, businesses can't survive leakages from so many fronts and stay profitable, but my point is, if thieves were ripping these businesses off since before 1999, we can pretty much call business theft a constant, and the variable will be the quality of governance that makes these businesses stay profitable despite theft, meaning the "real" cause of these businesses tanking isn't the theft, but the dip in the quality of governance.

again as a business owner, you are smarter than this

the dip is not in governance, it is in income

are we earning the same revenues we earned in 1999, 2003, 2008, 2011?

the demand for oil is winding down - which is why saudi and uae are pivoting to tourism
the supply of oil is increasing as everyone has it in their backyards
so our income has dropped but our internal opex has risen

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 12:31pm On Jun 19
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 12:32pm On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


If BBL and boob job can be done with handkerchief or bedsheet, is that not a miracle?

We are saying the same thing!
Lol.......
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:47pm On Jun 19
Ihebu4chelsea:
Lol.......

grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 12:48pm On Jun 19
Ihebu4chelsea:
Doc, Miracles still happen ... Stop seeing everything from the professional point of view!
not this one, your body part can't regenerate if severed,na common sense.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:57pm On Jun 19
grin

....................Mí ó ni sọ ń kánkán. LOL!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:18pm On Jun 19
Theflint1:
I get you, businesses can't survive leakages from so many fronts and stay profitable, but my point is, if thieves were ripping these businesses off since before 1999, we can pretty much call business theft a constant, and the variable will be the quality of governance that makes these businesses stay profitable despite theft, meaning the "real" cause of these businesses tanking isn't the theft, but the dip in the quality of governance.

So how come Asians and Indians are thriving every single minute here?

Is it that the quality of governance no dey affect them?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:29pm On Jun 19
izzou:


So how come Asians and Indians are thriving every single minute here?

Is it that the quality of governance no dey affect them?

the other thing about asians - they may be paid more than nigerians, but they are paid less than westerners. and a lot of asian expats are much more conservative financially than westerners. you will see indian managers in tontolo kia moto. but every oyibo manager is in a late model suv.

and because they are coming from third world countries, they can give solutions that work in nigeria.

all this cng, lpg we are going on about - it is a mature technology in india and pakistan. but it is not adopted that much in western nations

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:31pm On Jun 19
OasisX:
grin

....................Mí ó ni sọ ń kánkán. LOL!

alienating everyone and anyone is in the core dna of the obidient

imagine the deranged audacity, disrespect and outright stupidity of calling obj a political prostitute and jobber

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 1:36pm On Jun 19
GloriousGbola:


alienating everyone and anyone is in the core dna of the obidient

imagine the deranged audacity, disrespect and outright stupidity of calling obj a political prostitute and jobber
The only political prostitute and jobber I know is Malcolm's preferred political candidate who, as soon as things were not going as planned, moved from the APGA to the PDP, then to the LP.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 1:44pm On Jun 19
Theflint1:
I get you, businesses can't survive leakages from so many fronts and stay profitable, but my point is, if thieves were ripping these businesses off since before 1999, we can pretty much call business theft a constant, and the variable will be the quality of governance that makes these businesses stay profitable despite theft, meaning the "real" cause of these businesses tanking isn't the theft, but the dip in the quality of governance.

The inflation and cost of almost everything going x3 means those theft now has more impact on the business as it will keep ballooning their operating cost and with the reduced demand, the business can easily crumble.

Both variables affects the business.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:51pm On Jun 19
Theflint1:
At what point in time did Nigerians pickup this habit of theft? I want to imagine cases of theft have been in existence since forever, yet these businesses weren't going under at the rate we're seeing today. Or is it that we expect that as the economy is tanking, the thieves will grow a conscience and go make I pity my Oga business and not steal like I used to grin grin grin

There were many companies we used to see growing up that disappeared without us realizing

For example this is an article about Michelin and Dunlop 2 mega tyre manufacturers who left Nigeria in 2007 and 2008, They have probably been replaced by China and Indian manufacturers now. The reasons those global European brand gave for leaving is similar to what companies are giving now

https://www.just-auto.com/news/france-michelin-ending-nigeria-tyre-making/

https://www.tirereview.com/dunlop-sweeps-out-of-nigeria/

The decision is said to be inspired by the persistence of power cuts, unreliable gas supply, a rise in manufacturing costs and inconsistent governmental tariffs, which allowed imported tyres to gain the upper hand in the domestic market.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 1:54pm On Jun 19
afrodoc2:


If he can use ordinary handkerchief to grow breast in 2 weeks imagine the quality of BBL and boob job possible with bedsheet and 1 month germination period.

Heaven is really far from ur bros.



What is this
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:00pm On Jun 19
raumdeuter:


There were many companies we used to see growing up that disappeared without us realizing

For example this is an article about Michelin and Dunlop 2 mega tyre manufacturers who left Nigeria in 2007 and 2008, They have probably been replaced by China and Indian manufacturers now. The reasons those global European brand gave for leaving is similar to what companies are giving now

https://www.just-auto.com/news/france-michelin-ending-nigeria-tyre-making/

https://www.tirereview.com/dunlop-sweeps-out-of-nigeria/

The decision is said to be inspired by the persistence of power cuts, unreliable gas supply, a rise in manufacturing costs and inconsistent governmental tariffs, which allowed imported tyres to gain the upper hand in the domestic market.


https://www.nairaland.com/8129105/western-multinationals-fleeing-nigeria-being

Also this

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:00pm On Jun 19
GloriousGbola:


the other thing about asians - they may be paid more than nigerians, but they are paid less than westerners. and a lot of asian expats are much more conservative financially than westerners. you will see indian managers in tontolo kia moto. but every oyibo manager is in a late model suv.

and because they are coming from third world countries, they can give solutions that work in nigeria.

all this cng, lpg we are going on about - it is a mature technology in india and pakistan. but it is not adopted that much in western nations

Exactly.

While the constant factor is the bad economy, one group has learnt to stay afloat by paying lesser, cutting costs and doing anything and everything to profit.

Unilever may be paying a factory worker 50k per month, while one Chinese company would be paying 28k (1k per day) per month.

And both of them will produce detergents to sell. Who go fit survive inside a bad economy?

Guinness and NBPlc usually purchase brand new Mitsubishi Pick up for their Sales personnel. Tolaram go buy one Chinese smaller toy for theirs.

Na only Asians & Nigerians fit survive for this kind place

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 2:02pm On Jun 19
I support bayo

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:05pm On Jun 19
BlueRayDick:


Nigeria’s Worrisome Corporate Exodus - Punch Editorial

https://www.nairaland.com/8129052/nigerias-worrisome-corporate-exodus-punch .

I thought the argument has always been that we dont pay enough tax in Nigeria . Here is Dangote alleging he pays 52 per cent tax on every one Naira his company earns. Let’s not forget the multiple taxation we the common men face .

At least we can see that it’s not because the foreign investors cannot compete that’s why they are leaving in droves . I mean ; in what investment friendly country will u be expected to pay 52 per cent tax , forced to provide your own electricity , forced to pay community development levies , face difficulties in repatriating profit in foreign currency, face security threat to ur expats , etc ?
Wise men say...
Only fools rush in...
But I can't help ...
Supporting BAT 🦇

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:09pm On Jun 19
liveLongNprospa:
I support bayo
100%

This is the only thing Bayo has said that I support fully and whole heartedly.

Who needs Shetti- Bobo at this time?

Asiwaju must stay alive till at least Jan, 2027.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:17pm On Jun 19
izzou:


Exactly.

While the constant factor is the bad economy, one group has learnt to stay afloat by paying lesser, cutting costs and doing anything and everything to profit.

Unilever may be paying a factory worker 50k per month, while one Chinese company would be paying 28k (1k per day) per month.

And both of them will produce detergents to sell. Who go fit survive inside a bad economy?

Guinness and NBPlc usually purchase brand new Mitsubishi Pick up for their Sales personnel. Tolaram go buy one Chinese smaller toy for theirs.

Na only Asians & Nigerians fit survive for this kind place

Those western owned companies they feed staff during work. If you see the kain food you go chop for Chevron, Mobil Shell Total canteen even reach dem Dunlop Guiness Michelin omo you go get potbelly after 6months

Wetin concern Chinese employer if you never chop for 2yrs

Abi na staff club wey be like resort, Most of us have one parent or uncle who used to work in a Manufacturing company in the 80 and 90s and those companies have disappeared long ago without trace to be replaced by Lebanese Chinese and Indians
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Jun 19
GloriousGbola:
https://www.nairaland.com/8129105/western-multinationals-fleeing-nigeria-being
Also this

Its happening in Tech and Manufacturing even in US and EU. Most jobs are being sent to India now. If your staff are Americans they will claim benefit, Insurance PTO, workplace Hazard, minimum wage

While in Asia a 9yr old will get $1 per hour gladly no break, no insurance, no PTO etc thats how your sleek phones and designer bags are made, From Chinese sweatshops

When you drive around America yo see giant factories in middle of America that are now abandoned and desolate. Most likely those operations have moved abroad. That is why many of those people who are affected are backing Trump because regular politicians have served them lamba for decades
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 2:23pm On Jun 19
GloriousGbola:


alienating everyone and anyone is in the core dna of the obidient

imagine the deranged audacity, disrespect and outright stupidity of calling obj a political prostitute and jobber
According to MC Cipolla laws of stupidity those who support actions that does not benefit them are the stupid ones.

We need that level of audacity to change the political and socioeconomic landscape of this country. For years politicians have been doing things any how and going Scot free. We need critics like the 'obidiiots' who can criticise anyone including the man that carries the face of the mob.

I don't get this idea of showing respect to someone who failed to respect himself. Respect is reciprocal. If a elder steals and is caught, I shouldn't call him ole because he is my egbon? That's stupidity. If you don't dance naked on the streets no body will call you a madman. Even if it is culture let the culture change because it is not beneficial to anyone.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:39pm On Jun 19
raumdeuter:


Those western owned companies they feed staff during work. If you see the kain food you go chop for Chevron, Mobil Shell Total canteen even reach dem Dunlop Guiness Michelin omo you go get potbelly after 6months

Wetin concern Chinese employer if you never chop for 2yrs

Abi na staff club wey be like resort, Most of us have one parent or uncle who used to work in a Manufacturing company in the 80 and 90s and those companies have disappeared long ago without trace to be replaced by Lebanese Chinese and Indians

Those guys will block every hole that will lead to a loss....No compassion or mercy

I know a guy that worked in a bakery. He said for every slice that you mistakingly don't cut to the right size, it is deducted from your salary.
So in a month, you might have "eaten" your salary from improperly cut bread.

Meanwhile, i know a Western confectionery where the improperly uncut ones are sold as scraps to pig rearers or most times, the staff can take it home (The company has been sold now).

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:46pm On Jun 19
Segedinho:


Heaven is really far from ur bros.



What is this

Oh dear! Are you serious?
I am in sifia pains.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDiick: 2:53pm On Jun 19
raumdeuter:


Those western owned companies they feed staff during work. If you see the kain food you go chop for Chevron, Mobil Shell Total canteen even reach dem Dunlop Guiness Michelin omo you go get potbelly after 6months

Wetin concern Chinese employer if you never chop for 2yrs


Abi na staff club wey be like resort, Most of us have one parent or uncle who used to work in a Manufacturing company in the 80 and 90s and those companies have disappeared long ago without trace to be replaced by Lebanese Chinese and Indians

Treating one's employees well with good welfare package does not necessarily mean the company is wasteful like u are making it seem here. There's actually no big deal in a company providing lunch in the work place, dry ration and other added benefits to their staff.(Some Nigerian owned companies even do it in the financial services sector sef)

These companies make serious money from the businesses they do and it will be wickedness on their part to make that much money without making some provisions for their employees who helped make those monies.

Some of these things are not even luxury. For example , a multinational that owns plants where some chemicals and by products of petroleum products are made will provide cartons of milk for their staff on a monthly basis. When u see the staff of such company carrying Ghana-Must-Go bag of peak milk home, u will think the company is being wasteful . But in the actual sense he needs that milk due to health hazard he's exposed to in the work place.

Now if an Asian takes over such company and stops such dry ration, I know some Nigerians will see it as they bringing an end to wastefulness but they don't know they are only supporting an action against their brothers and sisters.

In the long run these Asians taking over Western owned businesses are not doing us any good. They don't even pay as much tax as their western counterparts because they know how to "cook books", the jobs they offer are low paying jobs,whatever they save while "cutting cost" ends up getting repatriated to their home countries etc.

Let government fix the economy and let businesses be able to thrive, not only Asians who offer less to the economy in the long run

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