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Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by BewareOf419: 5:05pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: We all know and understand the story of Job but we are more concern about Abraham.. So the idea to test the faith of Abraham came from God and not from satan as you claimed |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:05pm On Jun 19 |
BewareOf419: The idea to test someone with the death of his only son shey? Well this is what the Christians in the first century believe: Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: James 1:13 Thanks for your time! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by WhatsDifficult: 6:16pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: Sir the question am asking is what will if the is a big church going all around the world preaching rubbish U have not answerd me but you are saying different things ever since |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29pm On Jun 19 |
WhatsDifficult: You who need to know the difference between the truth and falsehood then you will know that it's impossible for zealous preachers to preach falsehood! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by WhatsDifficult: 6:34pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: What if |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:53pm On Jun 19 |
WhatsDifficult:You need to know the difference between truth and falsehood your question is like saying what if someone is drinking sand and swallowing it like gari. Is that possible? Preaching is a very difficult job that's why Jesus told his close confidants that they will need God's holy spirit to energize them. Do you think God's holy spirit will energize someone preaching rubbish? If you know all the features of original money you can't be deceived with fake money! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by WhatsDifficult: 7:25pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: So that is why u cannot answer it? |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 7:52pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse:Gen 22:1-2 1. Some time later God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” “Here I am,” he answered. 2. “Take your son,” God said, “your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. Offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.” 1 Like |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 7:58pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: Which bible you sef dey read eh? It is literally in the Bible that God was the one who tested Abraham 1 Like |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42pm On Jun 19 |
TenQ: Lawag3: This is why you guys need to study the Bible with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Are you guys Christians or Judaists? According to Jesus Christ is God the cruel one behind evil thoughts? Why do you people keep reading verses like: "All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one fully knows the Son except the Father; neither does anyone fully know the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son is willing to reveal him" Matthew 11:27 Yet you don't grasp that whatever the inspired writers of the Hebrew-Aramaic Scriptures penned down is just a shadow and not the full attribute of the true God? Well Jesus is the one and only person who knows the father in and out that's why he said the Holy Spirit will continue to reveal the things remaining that his friends need to know {John 16:12-13} according to James a spirit anointed Christians among those referring to the true God as "Abba Father" {Mark 14:36; Romans 8:15} this is what we learned: When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, NOR DOES HE HIMSELF TRY ANYONE. James 1:13 So i ask you people again: The idea that Abraham should kill his only son came from God or Satan? Job 1:9-11 compare to Revelations 12:10 Pray for understanding {Proverbs 2:1-5} instead of arguing blindly like Muslims who say their Allah is the same person behind GOOD and EVIL! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:43pm On Jun 19 |
WhatsDifficult: Thanks for your time! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 10:47pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: Don't be foolish does Genesis 22:1-2 say that God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac? Yes or no. God was testing the obedience of Abraham. You sound like an immature child. So I should pick the teachings of JW over what is stated in the Bible? 1 Like |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Aemmyjah(m): 11:14pm On Jun 19 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm confused |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 12:23am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: Again: Gen 22:1-2 1. Some time later God tested Abraham and said to him, “Abraham!” “Here I am,” he answered. 2. “Take your son,” God said, “your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. Offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.” God does not TEMPT a person God may TEST/TRY a person When bible scholars don't know the difference, it is a pity 1 Like
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Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30am On Jun 20 |
Lawag3: Don't get me wrong i never said JW taught me this but they made each Bible student to be studious with diligence. God is the one who spoke to his friend but the idea for him to kill his only son is due to accusations from the evil one who always stand accusing faithful people {Revelations 12:10} Satan must have come up with such an evil idea that Abraham's faith in his friend (God) is due to the fulfillment of having a child. So if Abraham is asked to sacrifice that child he will deny his friend (God) but as things would turn out Abraham was willing to give away anything for this friendship with God. Hebrew 11:17 compare to James 2:23 Such an evil test of faith emanates from the evil one not the Happy God! James 1:13 |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:33am On Jun 20 |
TenQ: With evil things shey? James 1:13 |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:41am On Jun 20 |
Aemmyjah: Good morning my brother, how are you doing? The idea to sacrifice Isaac doesn't emanate from the heart of our God but from the evil one, if evil test should come from God Himself then who will deliver us from evil? Matthew 6:13 The Israelites were misguided by Satan's agents who drew a comparison from what God asked Abraham to do regarding the sacrifice of his only son so they began sacrificing their sons and daughters to Molek but our God later spoke through prophet Jeremiah saying: And they have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart. Jeremiah 7:31 Please carefully meditate on the highlighted in blue, switch your mind back to Genesis 22:2 and ask yourself: is God lying by saying such evil idea to sacrifice our children never came into his heart? Well it's one of Jesus' brothers a Born Again Christian that solved the riddle when he said: When under trial, let no one say: “I am being tried by God.” For with evil things God cannot be tried, nor does he himself try anyone. James 1:13 So who tried Abraham to sacrifice his only son? Could it be the same person talking in Jeremiah 7:31? Is it the same person James was talking about? In the Bible book of 2Samuel 24:1 God moved David to count the Israelites but 1Chronicles 21:1 says it's Satan who is behind the idea to count the Israelites. So to have an accurate knowledge of God's word we must read and compare what we read to God's will it's not God's will to test people with evil things. Please extend my warm greetings to brothers and sisters in Uyo! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 7:16am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: Do you know the difference between a test and temptation? You don't. its no surprise. |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On Jun 20 |
Lawag3:Guy there's no need for further arguments you are free to hold onto your own opinion i've presented my own view on the matter so present yours and move on. If TEST and TEMPTATION doesn't mean the same to you it means exactly the same to me when it involves evil things, can your own friend ask you to sacrifice your own son for the friendship both of you shared? If such a TEST doesn't end your friendship with such a person that's your own cup of coffee! |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by TenQ: 7:45am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse:For someone who doesn't know the difference? |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 7:45am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: You're talking as if God allowed him to kill Isaac did Abraham kill Isaac? Who stopped Abraham? Temptation and test are the same thing? That's all I need to know to know that you're ain't ok. |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:49am On Jun 20 |
Lawag3: Can your own friend use such a thing to test you and such a friendship won't end the very moment he utter it? |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 7:57am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: My friend isn't the owner of all life. My friend did not give me a child at 100 years. Abraham obeyed God and his obedience paid Isaac lived and all the promises that God promised him came to pass. |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:08am On Jun 20 |
Lawag3: This is where you need a diligent study of the Bible Abraham is from a pagan background {Joshua 24:2} so when he heard the voice of a spirit extending a hand of friendship to him he never knew this Spirit is the Creator all he knew is that this Spirit is powerful and by the time God fulfilled His promises to Abraham he realized that this Spirit is able to do all things but did Abraham know everything about this spirit? NO! Exodus 6:2-3 So just like all other people back then also heard voices of spirits Abraham had God's voice Satan knew that since Abraham hasn't fully known the real identity of his spirit friend he will not like to continue the friendship if his friend demands something so precious to Abraham like his only begotten Son. But the idea to sacrifice his only begotten Son couldn't have come from the same Person who said evil thoughts never emanate from Him! Jeremiah 7:31 compare to James 1:13 |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by Lawag3: 8:40am On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: You're an intelligent dunce so Abraham knew a spirit but did not know the spirit was God ? Many instances in the Bible will render that nonsense you put up there invalid Abraham address this spirit as Lord God in Genesis 15:2 God himself revealed himself to Abraham as God Genesis 17 to the end. In Genesis 18 we see bint of the Trinity . God appear to Abraham on the plains of mamre Abraham saw three men and went to them. Abraham addressed them as my Lord singular he addressed them in singular. And when the beings refered to himself as I You've read nada and you understood nada. Abraham knew God well it's in the Bible . Your pride is making you make something so simple hard. Your supposed studying of the word only made you a fool. 1 Like |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:51am On Jun 20 |
Lawag3: The Hebrew text referred "LORD" in your KJV means YAHWEH or JEHOVAH the personal name of the only true God. So when Abraham say Jehovah God he was referring to the God who spoke with him just as others also have their Gods like Zeus, Jupiter, Ra and so on. Each person will call on the name of his own God {Micah 4:5} that's what Abraham did by calling his own God not that he knew this God is the Creator it was Moses whom God revealed all these secret to Abraham never knew all there is to know about the true God! Exodus 6:2-3 |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by BewareOf419: 9:21pm On Jun 20 |
MaxInDHouse: This man rest with your false teaching |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:23pm On Jun 20 |
BewareOf419: "False" you say? Well continue with your inquisition!
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Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by johnw47: 12:12am On Jun 21 |
Re: Had It Been Isaac Was Sacrificed by MightySparrow: 9:54am On Jun 21 |
MaxInDHouse: So Abraham heard voice of Satan. Satanic verses. 2 Likes |
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