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Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by CastedNairaland: 6:56pm On Jun 18 |
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Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by ShoeGetSize: 7:57pm On Jun 18 |
Africa's problems are down to incompetent political leadership, corruption and graft. If you really think a change of language will automatically wipe these issues out of existence, then you need an intervention. LocalStandard1: CastedNairaland: |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by MisterKings(m): 8:00pm On Jun 18 |
I think say you won talk Nepa wahala |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by Gmajor(m): 8:48pm On Jun 18 |
Lol. This op is so delusional. Swahili is even more alien to Nigeria than English. Imagine telling a Bini, Esan man speak Yoruba as his official language |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by Zubeezanga(m): 11:10pm On Jun 18 |
To me religion, it made us nigerians good pretenders a good christian or muslim in a religious gathering but terrible humans in our day to day activities, Another one is our leaders and politicians symdrome, this symdrome has eaten sooo deep that people now believe the politicians are invincible, but check the no of politicians and check the number of citizens? Why has the masses refused taking to the streets and demand accountablity in a very serious way. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by CastedNairaland: 12:07am On Jun 19 |
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Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by LOVEGINO(m): 1:36am On Jun 19 |
LocalStandard1:we die here. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by Laird(m): 3:36am On Jun 19 |
LocalStandard1: Well.let the data speak https://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-03/22/c_137055598.htm Chinese spend billions learning English Chinese sell more and make more from the English market than africa Nigerias probiem is corruption, mismanagement and low domestic manufacturing and production and high population and low export value |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by oyatz(m): 7:19am On Jun 19 |
victory36: You don't understand causes and effects ,in nation building. Brazil is similar to the USA, a settler country. Singapore,Malaysia and Indonesia are far more homogeneous than African countries and use their indigenous languages as official languages with English as auxiliary language. Ethiopia, given it's geographical challenges, has performed better than many colonised African countries. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by babasolution: 7:30am On Jun 19 |
oyatz: Such can only work if Nigeria is divided along ethnic lines,no tribe however small will be willing to displace it's indigenous language, for its neighbours own,English is neutral |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by victory36(m): 8:15am On Jun 19 |
oyatz:having identified ethnic difference as barrier to nation building, who/what is stopping African leaders breaking apart the colonial borders to construct new ethnic aligned borders if not their collective selfish interests? Language can never be a valid reason for being redundant. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by TVTM2023: 12:30pm On Jun 19 |
And what does changing language change Where we not speaking our own native tongue before the whites came? Did we develop infrastructurally Did it change our mentality or our traditions? What did it change? Lets be frank and ask ourselves the truth? English languange and pidgin sort pf madr things open!!! The new generation to come has lost ot already . It is only customs and some traditions and virtues that need to be restored. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by oyatz(m): 11:24pm On Jun 19 |
babasolution: No need for displacement but promoting and using our native languages as medium of impacting Knowledge in Academics, Commerce and Nation building (and English for translations or communications with others), will fast track developments. The Missionaries understood this concept well, when they translated the Bible, Church Hyms and Liturgical books into native languages. Home grown religious groups like the White Garments, African Church and CAC churches further entrenced the religion by adapting the new religion to suit local needs. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by babasolution: 8:46am On Jun 20 |
oyatz: There will be limitations, imagine you have a Yoruba President addressing the nation in Yoruba,how many languages will it be translated to? Smaller tribes will be forced to be incorporated into the big three,which will be disadvantageous to those tribes,it's already happened to my tribe to an extent, were in the past we were compelled to bare Yoruba names for political reasons,today many indigenes have forgotten their original culture, identity and history and the Yoruba is wrongly terming us to be yoruba |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by oyatz(m): 7:02am On Jun 22 |
babasolution: You didn't read to understand but rushed to respond. The President addressing the country is more of passing information than impacting knowledge, so this can be done in English. However if we want the largest number of Africans to have detailed understanding of Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics (STEM) subjects, necessary to catapult Africa into developed countries, then it is best to translate STEM Textbooks into indigenous languages and teach children in local languages. Even ,important detailed political and public information are made in Local Languages for most people to understand and assimilate the languages e.g Campaigns at Political Rallies, Advertisements by National Orientation Agency, Voter's Card Registration & collection, Infotmatuon on Immmunizations etc. Nobody forced you or anyone to bear Yoruba names or speak Yoruba language. It is NEVER happened, it is just parts of your propaganda. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by babasolution: 7:25am On Jun 22 |
oyatz: Yes,we weren't forced but compelled by exigencies of the times,in the early colonial era,people do not realise that what you are proposing was what was to take place in the colonial era,that's why Bibles etc were translated to indigenous languages ,Yoruba was being promoted to be the lingua franca of the West and neighbour regions such as kabba province ,kukuruku and Midwest (Benin,delta area). The Benin and delta vehemently rejected it,that's why the policy was stopped. Very small tribes like mine had no voice n we were influenced to comply until the policy was stopped. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by xexofe1741(m): 7:26am On Jun 22 |
victory36:how do we remove that |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by babasolution: 7:31am On Jun 22 |
xexofe1741: Malaysia, Indonesia, Brazil were not colonised,Brazil is a majority settler country,Malaysia n Indonesia only had political n economic influence from the Dutch,they weren't outrightly colonised like most countries in Africa |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by oyatz(m): 7:40am On Jun 22 |
babasolution: You don't still get the points. Did anyone stop you from translating the Bible to your native language and use your language in religious worship? The Missionaries understood that ,to get their messages across to the new converts, they needed to preach and conduct their services in the languages they understood. Who told you that people have stopped using local Languages in Commerce, religion, music and Social circles? As matter of fact, one of the reasons that SW musicians are breaking grounds in Music is because they partly sing in their Native Language which give their sense of originality and uniqueness. The major reason why guys who dropped out of secondary schools, to learn carpentenry, Tailoring, building ,Auto-mechanics and other skills do well is because, instructions and training in these fields are done in their local languages. Finally, peoples speaking and using ,their native languages, is NOT a threat to other native languages. You can develop your languages, music ,culture and ECONOMY too,which would make others people learn and adopt from you. For instance, in the glorious days of the Bini Empire, there were many people from Yoruba, Igbo, Igala and several small tribes who migrated to Bini or became influenced by Bini culture, languages and political system because it was the 'sense of class' at that time. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by FatimaAbubakar(f): 7:54am On Jun 22 |
This post is dumb. Countries in the South American continent speak either Spanish or Portuguese. Are they not better off than the shitty West Africa and other regions in Africa? |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by babasolution: 8:06am On Jun 22 |
oyatz: The problem is the issue of standardisation of learning,it will be alot of work to vet the standard of formal education in various languages in the same country. Therefore the formal education might end up being thought in few dominant languages which will be at the disadvantage of smaller tribes,leading to further breeding of rancour. |
Re: Remove This From Nigeria And See Nigeria Become Like China (Photo) by oyatz(m): 2:41pm On Jun 24 |
babasolution: The use of indigenous languages in schools doesn't have to mean abolition of English language-based Schools. As a matter of fact, in the early phase of Western Education in Nigeria down till 1960, indigenous languages were used to teach primary schools in the first few years of schooling. We can retain WAEC as a standard and unified exam to give certificates but learning to instill knowledge should be thought in Native Languages and English in STATES that are willing to do so. If Science Textbooks have been translated into indigenous languages since 1850s when the Bible was translated to Yoruba language, Scientific ways of reasoning would have been well entrenched in Nigeria. When we got to Senior Secondary school, most people struggled with Sciences because the subjects were written in a Foreign language and the texts used concepts that were unfamiliar to the environments we grew up. Biology and Agricultural Sciences appeared simpler because most people could relate with what they are taking about in these subjects e.g Heart, Muscles, Monocotyledon or Ruminant Animals etc |
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