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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:07pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


They were degraded.

People holding idea is one thing, allowing them to run mad with that idea will only worsen things.

That is what you can do. You can have any idea in your head no matter how stupid as long as it doesn't affect others

ISIS has been degraded and Hamas will be too. I know terror lovers like that morron will be pained but we can't let terrorist like him dictate our lives
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:08pm On Jun 20
ijebosb:


Yes, tell us more about how to defeat an ideology Dr. Ramdeuter, PHD of bullshitting and not knowing what da fuq he's talking about. lol

You are the one with terrorist ideology. As long as your ilk are degraded enough to keep your anti Semitic ideology in your head and not to kill Israelis that's enough
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:09pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


That is what you can do. You can have any idea in your head no matter how stupid as long as it doesn't affect others

ISIS has been degraded and Hamas will be too. I know terror lovers like that morron will be pained but we can't let terrorist like him dictate our lives

the most annoying part, he is not putting this much energy into IPOB despite the fact he is IPOB

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:10pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


IDF and Israel said their goal is to degrade Hamas not to have the power to attack Israel

Talk about reading and understanding, you don't do much of that do you?

Lol.. Speak on Dr, Raumdeuter, PHD (Bullshit)
You seem not to understand what/who Hamas is.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:16pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


the most annoying part, he is not putting this much energy into IPOB despite the fact he is IPOB

Keep on lying, LIAR.
Why don't you lie some more about Raum's postion so he can correct you again. Lol.

The fact you feel the need to interject yourself into other people's arguments is wild.
And them then take it upon yourself to lie about their positions is even wilder.

You're a loser's loser. A lying degenerate. You're a joke. lol
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:17pm On Jun 20
ijebosb:


Bwahhahaha.
You literally tried to lie about Raumdeuter's position.

And Raumdeuter came back and reinstated his position. You are the one here who seems incapable (clealry becasue you're a dumbass) of understanding. Comprehension seems to be your problem. You lie so much even when other people don't want you lying for them. Lol.



comprehension failure again. Obama said that he also fought ISIS. Syria and Russia /= Obama
You did not understand or comprehend what I said and failed to realize what Raumdeuter said. Raum did not say ISIS is extinct as a result of the bombing. As you can see, ISIS still exists, and Al Qaeda still exist

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:20pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


comprehension failure again. Obama said that he also fought ISIS. Syria and Russia /= Obama
You did not understand or comprehend what I said and failed to realize what Raumdeuter said. Raum did not say ISIS is extinct as a result of the bombing. As you can see, ISIS still exists, and Al Qaeda still exist


Ability to read and understand is really lacking

Has ISIS power and influence been reduced or not?

That's the point of fighting terrorists like him
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:21pm On Jun 20
ijebosb:


Lol.. Speak on Dr, Raumdeuter, PHD (Bullshit)
You seem not to understand what/who Hamas is.

You should know more about Hamas

So why don't you tell us what you and your friends are about
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 5:28pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


Ability to read and understand is really lacking

Has ISIS power and influence been reduced or not?

That's the point of fighting terrorists like him

It has. Infact, recently, ISIS-k killed a lot for people in Russia. They arrested 8 of them this month in the US. They are all in the Asylum program Biden set up.

The Idea is still there. There are Nazis today living their life. WW2 did not wipe them out.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:37pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:

comprehension failure again.

I'll just leave this here. What you said vs. what Raum said. The tell that he was calling you a lawyer is the word Yet. Do I need to post a definition?

bemeruca:

Obama said it since 2015 that ISIS is an ideology, and you cannot simply bomb an ideology out of existence.

Vs.

raumdeuter:

Yet how was ISIS dealt with by Syria and Russia? Shey dem forget their ideology when Assad and Putin bombed them.

Lol..
Step 1.) Lie
Step 2. (where we are currently) Obfuscate and Bullshit when get caught lying
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:46pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


It has. Infact, recently, ISIS-k killed a lot for people in Russia. They arrested 8 of them this month in the US. They are all in the Asylum program Biden set up.

The Idea is still there. There are Nazis today living their life. WW2 did not wipe them out.


Has anyone ever been wiped out? There are Nazis all over the world but the bombing of WW2 degraded them that they are unable to harm anyone

That's what Israel needs to do to Hamas and their friends

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 5:53pm On Jun 20

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:57pm On Jun 20
ijebosb:


I'll just leave this here. What you said vs.

Vs.



Lol..
Step 1.) Lie
Step 2. (where we are currently) Obfuscate and Bullshit when get caught lying

Bemeruca wants Hamas degraded, I want same, US govt want same Israel govt want the same

Now tell us what you want beside killing some Jews. What else is on your Xmas wishlist terrorist?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:05pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


Bemeruca wants Hamas degraded, I want same, US govt want same Israel govt want the same

Now tell us what you want beside killing some Jews. What else is on your Xmas wishlist terrorist?

I want you all to stop killing Palestinians.

Collective punishment is a punishment or sanction imposed on a group for acts allegedly perpetrated by a member of that group, which could be an ethnic or political group, or just the family, friends and neighbors of the perpetrator. Because individuals who are not responsible for the acts are targeted, collective punishment is not compatible with the basic principle of individual responsibility. The punished group may often have no direct association with the perpetrator other than living in the same area and can not be assumed to exercise control over the perpetrator's actions. Collective punishment is prohibited by treaty in both international and non-international armed conflicts, more specifically Common Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention and Article 4 of the Additional Protocol II.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:07pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


Bemeruca wants Hamas degraded, I want same, US govt want same Israel govt want the same

Now tell us what you want beside killing some Jews. What else is on your Xmas wishlist terrorist?

You're a certified Rhodes scholar aren't you?
aside: Has anyone even been a Rhodes scholar from your third tier college? That's if you even went to college.

Nice shift of terminology. Seems you're in the stage of obfuscation as well. I imagine this is what a discussion between two dumfugs sounds like esp when one is a practiced liar.
Here's a hint, what the US government wants is not what Israel wants. But to understand that would require you to read, use your brain, and reason beyond childish talking points.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:09pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


I want you all to stop killing Palestinians.



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But this is it collective punishment. You don't know what you are talking
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:10pm On Jun 20
In fact, Biden's cool with this shit is losing him my vote!

He cancelled the visit when he should have let him visit so he can be told off! So spineless!

And before anyone wrongly infers buda wants Jews killed, I don't want Saudis killed neither.

budaatum:
US can just simply lift sanctions on Iran and watch Saudi scream. Their continued support of Saudi in Yemen is a travesty.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-US-Is-Preparing-Its-Response-To-The-Short-Sighted-Strategy-Of-OPEC.html

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:12pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


But this is it collective punishment. You don't know what you are talking

So, you think buda is so stupid that buda does know what buda is talking about?

Why don't you next time just say "buda Is stupid".

I swear. I will not argue with you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:19pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


So, you think buda is so stupid that buda does know what buda is talking about?

Why don't you next time just say "buda Is stupid".

I swear. I will not argue with you.

You don't know what you are talking about. There is no collecting punishment. If Hamas is not holding hostages and fighting, then you can call this collective punishment.

Talk to hamas, afterall you sent them money. Tell them to surrender and release the hostages.

Also, see hamas saying their objective is to wipe Israel. They don't want two state solution, they don't want Israel to exist..
It will be crazy for Israel to allow a Palestinian state as it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNccvNJtGk?si=Fk1ZwUfHse2YB-Fb

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:23pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


I want you all to stop killing Palestinians.



Image below is tattoo shop on my street.


What do you want for Israeli?

The killing of Palestinians falls on Hamas. The moment they release all hostages hostilities will stop
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:24pm On Jun 20
ijebosb:


You're a certified Rhodes scholar aren't you?
aside: Has anyone even been a Rhodes scholar from your third tier college? That's if you even went to college.

Nice shift of terminology. Seems you're in the stage of obfuscation as well. I imagine this is what a discussion between two dumfugs sounds like esp when one is a practiced liar.
Here's a hint, what the US government wants is not what Israel wants. But to understand that would require you to read, use your brain, and reason beyond childish talking points.

What do you want beside death to Israel
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:25pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


You don't know what you are talking about.

I think it is fairer to say my opinion differs to yours instead of yelling 'buda is stupid', but If that's your conclusion, so may it be.

When I need my brain washed by bemeruca I'll call you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:31pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


What do you want for Israeli?
Peace. I want Israel to live in peace with itself and with its neighbours.

Tell me. If you were a Palestinian woman or child (you do know those exist, right?), what would you want?

raumdeuter:
The killing of Palestinians falls on Hamas. The moment they release all hostages hostilities will stop

You imply hostilities began when Hamas took hostiles so I better ask and not stupidly infer.

Were there no hostilities before Hamas took hostages?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:32pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


I think it is fairer to say my opinion differs to yours instead of yelling 'buda is stupid', but If that's your conclusion, so may it be.

When I need my brain washed by bemeruca I'll call you.

you have been the one using this word here. I have not used the word.

Also, it is not my opinion. What you push as collective punishment does not fit this scenario
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:34pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:


Also, it is not my opinion. What you push as collective punishment does not fit this scenario

Are you suggesting all Palestinians took hostages and therefore deserve to be wiped out?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:36pm On Jun 20
budaatum:

Peace. I want Israel to live in peace with itself and with its neighbours.

Tell me. If you were a Palestinian woman or child (you do know those exist, right?), what would you want?



You imply hostilities began when Hamas took hostiles so I better ask and not stupidly infer.

Were there no hostilities before Hamas took hostages?

Hostility began when the Arabs decided they wanted to control the whole land that did not belong to them. they started the civil war, they started the war. they are still dreaming of killing off the Jews or Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJNccvNJtGk?si=Fk1ZwUfHse2YB-Fb

when they teach children to hate their neighbors from the tender age of 3. how will they see peace?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:41pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


Are you suggesting all Palestinians took hostages and therefore deserve to be wiped out?

79 to 90% of Palestinians Supported Hamas and they supported their actions that day. they dance in Joy not knowing what was keeping Israel from Gaza was the defenses Israel put in to protect itself.

Now, Civilians crossed into Israel and took hostages looted, and burned down houses. off course not all of them are culpable, But this is war and war does not stop because some people are innocent.

Everyone is holding Israel to a different standard.

this is cause and effect. Hamas continues to hold hostages and put them in populated areas, they say they want their people to die so that budaatum will shout free free Palestine in the UK. All these are the reasons civilian casualty is high.

so collective punishment does not apply
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 6:41pm On Jun 20
bemeruca:

when they teach children to hate their neighbors from the tender age of 3. how will they see peace?

Israel teaches their children to hate their neighbours and Arabs and especially Palestinians too, and have been doing so ever since they wrote a book.

How could either of them see peace?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On Jun 20
budaatum:

Peace. I want Israel to live in peace with itself and with its neighbours.

Tell me. If you were a Palestinian woman or child (you do know those exist, right?), what would you want?

You imply hostilities began when Hamas took hostiles so I better ask and not stupidly infer.

Were there no hostilities before Hamas took hostages?

Does Hamas bear any form of agency on peace in the area? How come we are not asking them

You explicitly wrote you don't want death to Palestinians but someone missed Israelis being killed by Hamas

Hostilities have been going on for 100 of years , the current escalations started on October 7 when Hamas went into Isreal and killed 1400 kidnapping over 200

When Hamas surrenders and hand over hostages the citizens of Gaza will go back to their lives pre October 7
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 6:47pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


Israel teaches their children to hate their neighbours and Arabs and especially Palestinians too, and have been doing so ever since they wrote a book.

How could either of them see peace?

Israel wants to be left alone to exist, Hamas want to wipe out Israel as it's written in their own charter

How do you live in peace with someone that wants to eradicate you
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:49pm On Jun 20
budaatum:


Israel teaches their children to hate their neighbours and Arabs and especially Palestinians too, and have been doing so ever since they wrote a book.

How could either of them see peace?

Israel lives side by side with Arabs. They are in their government too.
there are 2 million Arabs in Israel. they only teach their children what is happening and who is trying to kill them. to some point, I agree. Israel is teaching its kids not to trust Palestinians

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:50pm On Jun 20
raumdeuter:


Israel wants to be left alone to exist, Hamas want to wipe out Israel as it's written in their own charter

How do you live in peace with someone that wants to eradicate you

Budaatum will never get it.

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