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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:47pm On Jun 20 |
typicalgamer: You guys keep shouting tiki taka is dead. Please, playing style has to do with player selection. When you have Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets in your side, you play in a pattern that suits them. That is why Guardiola used that variant. When we had David Silva and Gundogan at Manchester City, we kept the ball more. So it has to do with the kind of players available. Please I have been watching Enrique since Barca B time. I know lots about the changes. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:48pm On Jun 20 |
typicalgamer: Funny. Please, there is a reason why I have hammered the term heavy possession game. I don't expect every coach to play the same way. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:51pm On Jun 20 |
Goke7:24games and they didn't win 2 i think. Who wan care about tiktok again? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 10:54pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: It seems you forgot who spain was playing against The way spain would play comfortably against Albania they won’t play with a level head against a team like Italy 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:54pm On Jun 20 |
Napoleon55:We that watch them are telling you they're not tikitaka-ing anymore 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:55pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe:Hope you've seen that pragmatism is the virtue not blind loyalty |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:56pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: This lost ball aspect is overstretched by you. I won't drop my own 2cents but the female commentator's. She said Spain have set up in such a way that the moment they lose the ball deep in their opponents half, they're recovering it almost immediately. She noticed that repeatedly and said it more than once. But you're only seeing that and adding "improvement" talks to it asif every football team doesn't ever lose the ball, no matter how talented they're. Haba. Even robots are not perfect. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57pm On Jun 20 |
typicalgamer: So what are you arguing. Spain had serious problems today and I always believe there are tactical solutions that can be made to improve, no matte the side being faced. And I don't expect every team and side to play the same way. I wonder where you guys got that idea. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:58pm On Jun 20 |
Odunayaw: Which one is pragmatism again. Spain was still the more possessive side and built up better. You guys want a coach sitting deep which is a sign of weakness. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:00pm On Jun 20 |
daveP: You don't need a commentator to tell you that Spain fell back in space when they lost the ball. The problem is that they were vulnerable and in another instance, they can lose playing with such gaps. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:00pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe:So you know this and have been yelling for SE to play tikitaka😳 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:02pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe:Say another thing. Spain had less possession and passes against Croatia. Is that tikitaka? 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:03pm On Jun 20 |
Odunayaw: To grow. Not to be world cup champions in the first game. I wonder why simple points takes years to explain. If we are to grow, we need to learn how to play possessively. It is a process. I did not say we should turn prime Barcelona overnight. It starts from the coach and building the system. Scouting vigorously etc. If we walk that path, we will get better as timw goes on. Than expecting changes by sitting deep in our own half. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:04pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: Don’t preach to spain about lapses they’re 2/2 Go talk to England about playing from deep They’ surely need your advice more than successful spain |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:04pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe:Like i said, i don't want to say my own observations. That's why i gave the least weighed one to show you that what you're hammering on is not ALWAYS ULTIMATE or helpful. That's not hard for you to decipher, is it? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 11:06pm On Jun 20 |
The owners have found a new solid formula. But only you want us to sacrifice every other philosophy out there for the fading style? You sure don't love Super Eagles 😂😂😂😂 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:07pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: So why did spain suddenly ditched tiki taka After it has failed them in 2014 2018 and 2022 and you want us to embody and carry on a failed system Give up bro the rest of the world has caught up, nobody will look you while you’re holding possession they’ll press you and pounce on your errors 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:08pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe:Why didn't Spain scout for players like Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets and have now adapted play to suit the kind of players they have? 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:11pm On Jun 20 |
Odunayaw: Na wa. Guardiola and Areta play heavy possession game. When Arsenal meets Manchester City most times, they sit back and allow Manchester City dominate possession. Does that mean Areta is not a heavy possessive coach? Croatia dominating possession means the Croatian coach set them up better. It does not mean Spain no more plays heavy possession football. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:11pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: 2014 had all the possession lost to chile and Netherlands by a wide margin 2018 lost to Russia while maintaining all possession 2022 lost to Morocco all possession no results 2023 they found the winning formula in high pressing and fast counter- same method Germany is playing Now you want us to play tiki taka when our boys can barely play 3 touch wow 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:12pm On Jun 20 |
Odunayaw: That was my first point. Not too thrilled with Fuente's approach because I felt with more choice selection, he can have a more controlling side. That is why I am interested to see Mikel Merino start and play the next game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:13pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: Croatia had a better system but lost and were beat wan at every corner aside possession Omo Abeg give me the inferior system na win i come here come win no be to entertain anybody fada |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:14pm On Jun 20 |
0zymandias: 😂 Winning two matches is not winning formula. It is about dominating for years. I hope to see Fuente improve along the way but his midfield is not yet sharp and they know it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by yinkeys(m): 11:15pm On Jun 20 |
Goke7:Complete but I don’t think he was good with his head like cr7 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:16pm On Jun 20 |
0zymandias: That is what you guys said about Mourinho until he was beaten like thief repeatedly. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:16pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: Nations league champions genius 😂 😂 😂 Count those games join spain is GOATED now Losing for 14 years straight is foolishness only something a delusional person like you would still continue to do 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:18pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: I don’t care about mourinho or guardiola or anceloti just win for me please As a owner of a club do you want to be entertained or do you want to win ?? I’m not one of those people who said guardiola has ruined football just win and nothing else matters 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18pm On Jun 20 |
0zymandias: 😂 Different coaches play different ways. Spain have had different coaches not ditching philosophy. 😂 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:20pm On Jun 20 |
0zymandias: I am more interested in curving a long term winning formula. That is why I was studying and supporting Guardiola when he was coaching Barcelona B. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 0zymandias: 11:26pm On Jun 20 |
TheGoodJoe: Would you still stick to tiki taka when your last major trophy 🏆 was euro 2012 And you’ve been humiliated for almost 14 years straight and you’ll stick to your old guns and not adapt to the times You’ll end up as another finidi if you’re a coach just barely 3 match them don sack you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:27pm On Jun 20 |
Just found this on Twitter. I think he hammered the point well and also proposed a solution which I find interesting and I hope to see the approach in the next round.
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