Grower. You mean the bag?

truthhurts2:

It depends, are you living alone in that compound? If not, will they accept it or not?

I don't know which side you are but here, a grower is sold for around 1500, I even bought mine for 1k each. So let's say at 1500, you can start with 4 ( 3 hens and 1 cock)

Eagba:

Bros I think you can read something on cockroach farming in look for a aerated container or drum do it in it n feed your birds some cockroaches to supplement their feed

If you can learn cockroach production without causing a major disease outbreak, contain them to just your production site, and eradicate them all when you decide to stop, go for it. Also, treat this as their main meal rather than a supplement. The millet, corn, and soy feed that people throw around here is nonsense. Then you find a clean energy source in their feed. The person you are asking doesn't know about it. Go ahead with your research, bro.

If you can do it for only the chicken you eat at home, and eggs you eat...and you can add organic veggie...Trust me...you will live longer than the average Nigerian.

Goodluck bro!

Is it really possible to raise birds without anti-biotics and vaccines. So you wont be giving them drugs?

epainos:

First, you need to learn. The cost of feeding is extremely high, and it continues to rise. So, if you are not very good, you will not make a profit. So, it is best to start small with no intention of selling in order to learn everything thoroughly. Alternatively, you can sell with some initial losses. If you can do this, you have the ability to learn.

Eggs are easier to sell than meat, so you may want to think about it now. Meat used to be the better option, but it is difficult to sell these days, except around Christmas.

You will purchase day-old broiler chicks for meat, and there are several types. You need to know which one to buy for your market. Also, your cage must be in good condition. You can buy day-old eggs as well, but you will not be able to produce eggs until 5 months. As a result, you must continue to feed them for another 5 to 6 months before producing anything. You can, however, buy some that have been grown for three to four months. It is extremely risky, but people do it anyway. I would not do it, which is why I have to sell meat to support myself because it is a six-week cycle.

The question is, how do you intend to sell your meat? At what price? Go find out. If you can sell whole processed chicken for 4,000 per kg, you can profit by N2,000 per bird if you do not pay salaries. As a result, you may want to budget around N3k per kg for live chicken. Analysis is for today. It changes so fast, so one must follow the market closely.

If you get into wellness and can find customers who eat organic meat, you will have a solid market. This is what you should aim for. Depending on how your product is packaged, you can sell it for between N5k and N10k per kg. You will need a solid understanding of how to raise chickens without antibiotics or vaccines. Many people are unable to do it, but this is what I do.


Why are you telling him to buy all those malnutritional birds? Why not start from day old?

Don't listen to this. Start your journey from the beginning. Learn the rope very well.
etc.

What I explained above is for broiler and layers because I don't believe in local slow birds. They produce fewer eggs, too. If you want to do free range, I prefer noiler, and you start from day old also. But if you really want to do local fowls, then you should buy some young mothers hen that are still laying very well and a cock. Start producing your chicks immediately. Why would you first buy growers....wait for like 6 mths before they start laying eggs and you start multiplying your chickens. Start the multiplication ASAP. Again....I will NEVER go for local fowl because they are not fast growing. Instead, I would rather do cross breeding if I wanted to do them. But really...I would rather do noiler for a start.

Love800:
Didnt the broilers lay egg?

Who did you sold it to. At the market?

The broilers didn't lay egg.. I sold it to a restaurant..

Okay. Is like broilers dont lay eggs, i think. Is it the broilers with white feathers?

You sold it as live-chickens or have you already slaugthered it?
What kind of restaurant. Mamaputs or something else?

Gentlesoul2021:


The broilers didn't lay egg.. I sold it to a restaurant..

Love800:
Okay. Is like broilers dont lay eggs, i think. Is it the broilers with white feathers?

You sold it as live-chickens or have you already slaugthered it?
What kind of restaurant. Mamaputs or something else?

I don't know if all broilers lay eggs. Yes it is the broiler with white feathers.
I sold it as live-chickens in kg (weighed). The guy run a mini- restaurant. I don't know if it's mama put..

Thanks.

I can sight four females in those chickens. I may be wrong though.

Lastly, what do u feed dem with. Pls?

Gentlesoul2021:


I don't know if all broilers lay eggs. Yes it is the broiler with white feathers.
I sold it as live-chickens in kg (weighed). The guy run a mini- restaurant. I don't know if it's mama put..

Love800:
Thanks.

I can sight four females in those chickens. I may be wrong though.

Lastly, what do u feed dem with. Pls?

Yes there are female broiler chickens among them, does a female broiler lay eggs?!!..

I feed them with the organic feeds. Ultima Plus was what was recommended to me by the guy who sold them to me at 2 weeks...

Gentlesoul2021:


Yes there are female broiler chickens among them, does a female broiler lay eggs?!!..

I feed them with the organic feeds. Ultima Plus was what was recommended to me by the guy who sold them to me at 2 weeks...

Breeding is a business billionaries have taken over, and the end game is to control food supply. Exactly what is already happening in Nigeria. The game is that there won't be gardeners and backyard farming... just like how it is already in Nigeria. Go check out... Everyone is calling on the government to give them food. Did people who live from 1900 to late 90s solely depend on government for food supply? Even Awolowo did not attempt to work on staple food. Rather, he introduced cash crops - rubber, cocoa, palms, etc. But today, all forms of breeding have taken over food production from gardeners..lol.

Go ask farmers the cost of seeds... They can't even use heritage seeds because diseases were deliberately spread so that they can buy their own diseases resisted varieties.

So, the same thing is happening in livestock and poultry. The broilers you buy are called commercial. These ones are the ones they want farmers to buy. Sure, the female can lay eggs, but I won't be surprised if they have modified it such that they can't lay eggs again. My point is that the last time I checked, they can still lay eggs, but if you try it...you won't get good quality chicks. You will likely have deformation here and there. However, you can tweak it if you have breeding skills also. But why would you wanna spend months or years tweaking it when you aren't interested in becoming one of the guys who are taking away farming from common men and women? It takes a lot of money to do that.

So, if you want to breed, there is a special kind called "parents" you buy. Then, you can get into the business of breeding. However, you are restricted in many ways. These billionaries still have "grandparents," and I won't be shocked if there are already "greatgrandparents".

Go through my threads on the high cost of day old and learn more. Read the comments there.

One day old chick of the parent is over N5,000....and they sell in bulk. You will be lucky to get 50 chicks. Lol.

Try to do research on NL. These topics have been discussed many times...so, it gets boring when people start asking questions that have been answered many times. No one will respond. So, get yourself together and dig out old threads. Make research.

Good luck!

epainos:

Breeding is a business billionaries have taken over, and the end game is to control food supply. Exactly what is already happening in Nigeria. The game is that there won't be gardeners and backyard farming... just like how it is already in Nigeria. Go check out... Everyone is calling on the government to give them food. Did people who live from 1900 to late 90s solely depend on government for food supply? Even Awolowo did not attempt to work on staple food. Rather, he introduced cash crops - rubber, cocoa, palms, etc. But today, all forms of breeding have taken over food production from gardeners..lol.

Go ask farmers the cost of seeds... They can't even use heritage seeds because diseases were deliberately spread so that they can buy their own diseases resisted varieties.

So, the same thing is happening in livestock and poultry. The broilers you buy are called commercial. These ones are the ones they want farmers to buy. Sure, the female can lay eggs, but I won't be surprised if they have modified it such that they can't lay eggs again. My point is that the last time I checked, they can still lay eggs, but if you try it...you won't get good quality chicks. You will likely have deformation here and there. However, you can tweak it if you have breeding skills also. But why would you wanna spend months or years tweaking it when you aren't interested in becoming one of the guys who are taking away farming from common men and women? It takes a lot of money to do that.

So, if you want to breed, there is a special kind called "parents" you buy. Then, you can get into the business of breeding. However, you are restricted in many ways. These billionaries still have "grandparents," and I won't be shocked if there are already "greatgrandparents".

Go through my threads on the high cost of day old and learn more. Read the comments there.

One day old chick of the parent is over N5,000....and they sell in bulk. You will be lucky to get 50 chicks. Lol.

Try to do research on NL. These topics have been discussed many times...so, it gets boring when people start asking questions that have been answered many times. No one will respond. So, get yourself together and dig out old threads. Make research.

Good luck!

This is the first topic about broiler I'll be seeing on frontpage since 2016 I have been on NL. I'll look up those topics u highlighted.
Thank you

Gentlesoul2021:


This is the first topic about broiler I'll be seeing on frontpage since 2016 I have been on NL. I'll look up those topics u highlighted.
Thank you

Listen, threads you will learn so much from don't make front page. Some of them already have many pages. Threads that make front page are like 1 page, and they patch the initial post with pictures to make them front page worthy. Lol. You won't get so much there because stupid comments suddenly flood the thread after hitting the front page. And then, things died down, and if the OP isn't the front page hunter, the thread continues...and if you follow such, you start learning.

There are so many threads on poultry - chicken, turkey, duck; ruminants - goats, cattle, sheep; rabbits; etc.

Use the search tool, input your search words, and restrict your search to the agricultural section. You'll be amazed tons of information that will pop up.

Good luck!

Thankz so much.
At the bolded, were you asking me a question?

Gentlesoul2021:


Yes there are female broiler chickens among them, does a female broiler lay eggs?!!..

I feed them with the organic feeds. Ultima Plus was what was recommended to me by the guy who sold them to me at 2 weeks...

Love800:
Thankz so much.
At the bolded, were you asking me a question?

Yes I am!!

I heard it use to lay. But i havent seen it myself.

Gentlesoul2021:


Yes I am!!

epainos:

540 chickens at N5,000 will give 2.7 million naira for a year. Hmmm! We haven't removed the cost of production because there will definitely be. And you say this can compete with broilers? Are you serious now?

Well the new minimum proposed wage is N62k per month, so, it can be something. It really can make one earn like an upper working class.

Lesson learned here is that civil servants are just underpaid and they are slaves. Lol.

You can't compare this to broilers when one has the market and gets it right. It is possible to make over N2,000 profit per broiler. Now imagine one has a market for 1000 birds every week which is possible. That's 2 million naira profit per month. The issue is that most farmers here cannot do it because they are just starting. I know farmers who are still doing it. And let's say it even 500 birds one does every month, that's still something.

No matter how you see it, broilers are for meat production, but one must have the source of managing the business. Poverty is the reason NL farmers want to make people think local chickens are good to go with.

Yes, it will give some profit...I know...but let us be serious about it. That's a trap to keep one in the same spot financially. There is no growth innthe business template.

For sure, it is a temporary way out in this present economy for most people. Well.... maybe people doing it now are smart after all. Hmmm!

Lol. It's diversification bro.

Ever heard of multiple portfolios in business.
In your farm,broilers may be the cash cows, but local fowls would be an additional source of income.

Besides, locals are less stressful than broilers

stanvesco:


Lol. It's diversification bro.

Ever heard of multiple portfolios in business.
In your farm,broilers may be the cash cows, but local fowls would be an additional source of income.

Besides, locals are less stressful than broilers

Local fowls for personal consumption is OK... but kindly show me one person who has made enough reliable income from raising them? And let us know the additional income such can give.

Have you ever heard of breakeven analysis in business? Have you ever heard of profit and loss ratio to know which lines to discontinue?

When you understand broiler production, it isn't stressful. The problem with most farmers is that they don't want to spend at all, but they want to make big money. Period. Learn the optimal condition to raise them, give it to them, and they will do excellently well. People who complain they are stressful just don't want to learn or don't want to spend.

At the end of the day, it's all about how we view life. If you can spend and even waste time in order not to spend money, then, good for you. Responsible people compare time and money. Time is money.

I am not saying people should not rear local chickens, but I am asking them to come forward and show us that they have made something reasonable out of it after 1 year or 2 years of production. Go check them out... They make may be N150k or even less in 2 years. And they treat it as their main business. No wonder they keep struggling financially.

For the purpose of health, it is perfect. I can do it for such too.

So, diversify with sense bro because diversification can also shatter you.

epainos:

Local fowls for personal consumption is OK... but kindly show me one person who has made enough reliable income from raising them? And let us know the additional income such can give.

Have you ever heard of breakeven analysis in business? Have you ever heard of profit and loss ratio to know which lines to discontinue?

When you understand broiler production, it isn't stressful. The problem with most farmers is that they don't want to spend at all, but they want to make big money. Period. Learn the optimal condition to raise them, give it to them, and they will do excellently well. People who complain they are stressful just don't want to learn or don't want to spend.

At the end of the day, it's all about how we view life. If you can spend and even waste time in order not to spend money, then, good for you. Responsible people compare time and money. Time is money.

I am not saying people should not rear local chickens, but I am asking them to come forward and show us that they have made something reasonable out of it after 1 year or 2 years of production. Go check them out... They make may be N150k or even less in 2 years. And they treat it as their main business. No wonder they keep struggling financially.

For the purpose of health, it is perfect. I can do it for such too.

So, diversify with sense bro because diversification can also shatter you.

Lol. You think and plan too much bro


Sometimes, perfectionism is a wahala.



Get those local chickens and enter business. Learn along the line.
Local chicken is still in business today because someone is making profit.

I have a friend that ventured into this business and his business failed because somebody bought out his entire stock. Meaning that he sells,sell,sell and outsold his main parents.


So yeah,the market is available.


Enjoy bro

stanvesco:


Lol. You think and plan too much bro


Sometimes, perfectionism is a wahala.



Get those local chickens and enter business. Learn along the line.
Local chicken is still in business today because someone is making profit.

I have a friend that ventured into this business and his business failed because somebody bought out his entire stock. Meaning that he sells,sell,sell and outsold his main parents.


So yeah,the market is available.


Enjoy bro

Read what you wrote. So, your friend who outsold himself is wise or stupid? That's when you don't plan.

Stop this rubbish... and plan well.

Tel me how local birds raising is a business? From what I know, 99.9% who raise it eat 90% of their birds themselves. They are mostly in villages.

A business you can not easily scale up...lol. Have you learned about scalability in business? This is a priority for modern businesses. If you want to get a business visa to these super world power nations, your business must be able to scale up easily. You have to show them the plan how to scale up.

Perhaps you need an adviser to help you with a good business plan. Most of you see it as a waste, and in the end, you mess up. Still, you don't learn. Perfection is not what I preach...so don't twist it. I am only saying...show me that this thing is profitable, but you can't. And ya ya ya ya ya....it is profitable...it is profitable...show me na...you can't...Next...you plan too much. Are you damn serious now? Nope, I won't be a failure ....I won't follow blindly.

That's how they promoted f3 f4 ft noilers...I will make eggs from my noiler...I will use kerosene automatic incubator...lol...rubbish!!!! Go check all the threads....they were all crushed. Should I start posting failed threads here?

Just cos it is cheap or free does not mean it is worth doing. Again, I am not saying local birds aren't OK... but hey...na waooo.

I produce quails... but it is for personal consumption. I don't come here to promote it as a source of income because it is not in Nigeria. But the eggs and meat are ok. It even has a better feed conversion than turkey... but Nigerians won't still buy it. But it is good for personal consumption. I know it is not worth promoting it, so I don't.

If you don't plan well, you have successfully planned to fail. Period.

epainos:

Read what you wrote. So, your friend who outsold himself is wise or stupid? That's when you don't plan.

Stop this rubbish... and plan well.

Tel me how local birds raising is a business? From what I know, 99.9% who raise it eat 90% of their birds themselves. They are mostly in villages.

A business you can not easily scale up...lol. Have you learned about scalability in business? This is a priority for modern businesses. If you want to get a business visa to these super world power nations, your business must be able to scale up easily. You have to show them the plan how to scale up.

Perhaps you need an adviser to help you with a good business plan. Most of you see it as a waste, and in the end, you mess up. Still, you don't learn. Perfection is not what I preach...so don't twist it. I am only saying...show me that this thing is profitable, but you can't. And ya ya ya ya ya....it is profitable...it is profitable...show me na...you can't...Next...you plan too much. Are you damn serious now? Nope, I won't be a failure ....I won't follow blindly.

That's how they promoted f3 f4 ft noilers...I will make eggs from my noiler...I will use kerosene automatic incubator...lol...rubbish!!!! Go check all the threads....they were all crushed. Should I start posting failed threads here?

Just cos it is cheap or free does not mean it is worth doing. Again, I am not saying local birds aren't OK... but hey...na waooo.

I produce quails... but it is for personal consumption. I don't come here to promote it as a source of income because it is not in Nigeria. But the eggs and meat are ok. It even has a better feed conversion than turkey... but Nigerians won't still buy it. But it is good for personal consumption. I know it is not worth promoting it, so I don't.

If you don't plan well, you have successfully planned to fail. Period.

Abeg tell me about the quail ojarey

Love800:
I heard it use to lay. But i havent seen it myself.

Same here too. I haven't seen it..

Ok.

What do you mean by dat organic feeds?

Gentlesoul2021:


Same here too. I haven't seen it..

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Love800:
Ok.

What do you mean by dat organic feeds?

Slightlyredneck:

Please I need quail birds. Where are you located and how much will you sell

Yeah, how-much? I want to cook ukwa with quail very soon.