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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 3:48pm On Jun 22 |
Kingsnairaland:sorry sir I am lost......what planet is this? did he also talked about how flat this planet is? |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 3:49pm On Jun 22 |
Masterviolence: probability of what you wrote here is like a coin either heads or tails there is no luck/probability in warfare, that is why militaries keep conducting training and war games. it your idea, who am I to dispute your innovative solutions in solving one of the most critical questions in modern navy warfare. ๐๐๐ 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 3:55pm On Jun 22 |
sainttwist1:nah.. no fun in that... The fun is in watching it burn ๐ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 4:10pm On Jun 22 |
dvkot: I just want you to have the front seat...you know, VVIP SEAT. you should also consider the experiment stuff......you are making the world safer for future generations lool 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 4:23pm On Jun 22 |
sainttwist1:Nah that ain't the move, u tryna get me killed ๐คญ 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by sainttwist1(m): 4:29pm On Jun 22 |
dvkot:what is the difference...... just helping you |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Savagethe21st(m): 4:46pm On Jun 22 |
@pansophist @lordadam do you believe Russia can actually win the war against Ukraine despite the west supporting Ukraine with advanced weapons like patriot air defense system and drones? Or do you think the war will carry-on for years and when Russia feels the cost is not worth it the will pull out and claim they have achieved their objectives? |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Tonididdyx: 4:50pm On Jun 22 |
Kingsnairaland:Na all Russians want die? All this things are personal interests โฆ |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 4:54pm On Jun 22 |
Obedience40: Nuclear submarines are noiser than diesel-electric submarines. Diesel-electric submarines use electricity when underwater. They only use the diesel generator to change the electric batteries. And to do that, they come to the surface. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 5:07pm On Jun 22 |
Obedience40:Now you've switched to survivability?, The example i gave regarding the introduction of cars was as a result of your outright cry of "stealthiness" You think a diesel-electric submarine uses diesel engine as the main source of navigation? The diesel engine is primarily to recharge the batteries when low, more like a backup power. hypothetically speaking, If those battries could last for 5months without recharge, the need for a nuclear powered submarines will drop, and the sea will become scarier because when the diesel engine is not operational, a hybrid submarines is more steather. I don't need to argue with you again on this subject again, don't say i did not correct you. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 5:11pm On Jun 22 |
โกRussia announces it will host 43,000 Palestinian refugees for six months as a humanitarian gesture. 10 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 5:14pm On Jun 22 |
Crixus13:Don't mind that guy, he thinks a diesel-electric submarine uses diesel engine as the main course for navigation. If not for the batteries that will run out, there'll be zero need for a diesel engine. Making submarines fully electric. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 5:20pm On Jun 22 |
Obedience40:You keep shooting yourself on the foot, because you're playing russian roulette. I told you before not to put forward a debate you have zero knowledge about. To set the records straight, a diesel-electric submarine uses electric for navigation, the diesel engine is only turned on when the battles are out of power and need to be recharged. I hope you understand now. 6 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 5:31pm On Jun 22 |
โกFormer CIA analyst Ray McGovern: โWe know, and Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor to the President, knows that Putin gave the North Koreans a very sophisticated ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) a couple of years ago. Itโs not Russiaโs most sophisticated one, but itโs the next one down. It can reach every inch of the United States; it has decoys, it has chaff galore. It can be guided into place, and most important, itโs mobile. To be mobile, you have to be solid fuel, itโs solid fuel. Has it been tested? Yes, itโs been tested twice. Now, what does that mean? That means that all this pulling of hair by the New York Times, Financial Times, and everybody - โOh, would Russia give sophisticated weaponry to North Korea in a strategic sense?โ Well, be the first to know, folks, they already have. So, what is Putin trying to do? Is he trying to steal the march strategically? Heโs trying to deter, for Godโs sakeโฆโ 5 Likes
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Balogunodua(m): 5:46pm On Jun 22 |
Obedience40: You guz should just die this submarine argument for God sake...whether stealth and non-stealth, a sub is only dangerous when it has not been detected...once it fires it first shot, it's a dead meat already. In this modern time..subs are primarily for deterrent...combat is secondary. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:13pm On Jun 22 |
โก๏ธ๐ท๐บ Russia is now reportedly employing Iranian-made Arash kamikaze UAVs in Ukraine. โ The first attacks using the Arash drones were reported near Ochakov in the Mykolaiv region. โ Initially, the UAVs were mistaken for cruise missiles, but an examination of the debris revealed that they resembled the Iranian Arash-1 or Arash-2 UAVs. โ The Arash and Arash-2 are long-range loitering munitions, also known as kamikaze drones, that have been used by the Iranian military since 2020. โ The Arash-2 has a reported strike range of up to 2,000 km and can carry a 150 kg warhead. โ This drone is a larger and more advanced version of the original Arash, with a wingspan of up to 4 meters and a length of 4.5 meters. โ Additionally, there have been reports that Russia has ordered a substantial number of Arash-2 drones from Iran. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by emmaodet: 6:23pm On Jun 22 |
Masterviolence: I don't know if a diesel-electric submarine operates differently from a diesel -electric ship but from my experience working on a Diesel -electric ship for about 4 years now, this is how it works compared to conventional diesel ship - The diesel -electric ship uses diesel to power it's generators which inturn powers it's electric motors that powers the propulsion and everything on ship while a conventional ship uses diesel to start it's main engines that power the propulsion engines while generators work by the side powering electrical equipment onboard. I doubt ships run on batteries alone for propulsion. Batteries are used to power critical equipment onboard that uses 220/440v and not heavy equipment or propulsion engines like propellers and rudders not steering gears 6 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 6:31pm On Jun 22 |
No one is talking about revolution trying to take place in Kenya I think. |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by pansophist(m): 6:37pm On Jun 22 |
Savagethe21st: Ukraine winning is not possible, unless Nato gets involved, but again, that will trigger China, and this will be the worst nightmare the west will ever dream of. Hence they are so desperate for the Chinese to rebuke Russia. China and Russia may be two different countries, but their security is indivisible. If China is secured, Russia is safe, and if Russia is safe, China is secured. That's the point of SCO. No matter the weapon that is supplied to Kyiv, you need soldiers, and currently, Ukraine is even drafting women, prisoners, homeless men, old men, sick men, and disabled, just to go fight. Russia has killed most Ukrainian soldiers (an average of 50k monthly), and the average Russian doesn't even know anyone who is conscripted. So how can Ukraine win? You can't win by begging for weapons. You win by making it yourself and have motivated soldiers with high morale willing to defend their country. Ukraine lacks all these. 20 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Fash20: 6:44pm On Jun 22 |
WriteerNg: Palestinians should not leave their land cus they will never be allowed back in. This was their oppressor 's plan 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:45pm On Jun 22 |
Savagethe21st:โกโRussia will win this war. Itโs impossible for us to lose. If we are about to lose, we will ensure that everyone loses.โ - President Putin 8 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 6:49pm On Jun 22 |
shoodboi2:thanks for schooling the intruder 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 6:58pm On Jun 22 |
Fash20: It is a game plan to train them to learn survival skills Russia is becoming more technical 3 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by okeysoninv: 7:07pm On Jun 22 |
Vl3ly:dreamer |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 7:09pm On Jun 22 |
Kingsnairaland:does anyone actually believe the moon landing? Even Americans themselves doubt it... They can do it then but can't do it now ๐ 2 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 7:11pm On Jun 22 |
Masterviolence:that is his attitude, he likes to be derailing the post instead to accept his mistake with shame 1 Like |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Balogunodua(m): 7:13pm On Jun 22 |
Vl3ly: What are the odds that Hezbollah might already have this drone in it arsenal, or still reverse engineer it. Israel is going for a rocky dive. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 7:21pm On Jun 22 |
Savagethe21st: Russia has won the war. The West continues to forward weapon systems to Ukraine to stop them from capitulating. For as long as Ukraine does not surrender, the West retains its perfect springboard to test out their strategic plans on Russia's military and economic infrastructure. Warships, Refineries, Airfields, Radar Installations. It is a fantastic sandbox for the Pentagon. Or do you think the war will carry-on for years and when Russia feels the cost is not worth it the will pull out and claim they have achieved their objectives? There is no chance of Russia pulling out. The worst case scenario is a stalemate or largely frozen conflict. Both sides have achieved the vast majority of their objectives. NATO is larger, more tight-knit and has gotten a wake-up call. Russia has strengthened the prior shaky alliance of the Axis Powers and more importantly silenced the Fifth column within the Axis countries. We're entering another period of Great Power confrontation after the 30-year lull post-collapse of the Soviet Union. This is not a situation where the Ukraine War ends and everything goes back to the way it was. That is over. All sides are arming up for a showdown! -Lord 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Tonididdyx: 7:47pm On Jun 22 |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Masterviolence(m): 7:56pm On Jun 22 |
emmaodet:Surface vessels and underwater vessels work quite differently. With the absence of the internet, my little knowledge about engineering could still put up a point for this aurgument, but thank God for the internet. Diesel engines cannot work under water, because a diesel engine needs constant O2 which is of less supply in the depth of the ocean. A diesel-electric submarine works completely on electric when fully submerged. This includes powering the circuit onboard and the propellers that moves the sub around. The only down side to this is the battery's inability to operate for long due to it limited capacity. When the battery capacity is low, the submarine surface, turn on the diesel engine while getting enough O2, charge up the batteries and go back go to the depth of sea. When a diesel submarine is underneath the sea, it become more steathier than a nuclear powered submarine. https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/submarine3.htm#:~:text=The%20sub%20must%20surface%20(or,diesel%20sub%20can%20actually%20submerge. https://observer.com/2019/10/diesel-powered-submarines-vs-american-nuclear-fleet/ 4 Likes |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Balogunodua(m): 7:58pm On Jun 22 |
emmaodet: Of course it works differently...and no ship can run on battery alone...we are not there yet. As for the sub argument...it simple as desiel electric powered sub are far more quieter than their nuclear counterpart. The Diesel-electric powered sub has AIP system that uses tensed HO2 tube to generate power that keeps the battery alive for a longer period of time underwater. What makes it more quieter than a nuclear sub is the fact that Nuclear sub uses reactor to generate heat to a degree that turns water to steam air into turning turbines for power...note heat part in which the reactor needs to keeping pumping to keep circulation... This process makes it more noises than it diesel-electric counterpart that uses an already stored H2O2 for that purpose. All in all once for fire...your location will be known and bleeped hard by opponents. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 7:58pm On Jun 22 |
โกDmitry Medvedev posted on his Telegram: Americans still take everyone for complete idiots. Just imagine that during World War II, Nazi Germany turned to the USSR with a proposal to make the issue of limiting the production of a certain kind of weapons (tanks, aircraft, or the BM-13 Katyusha rocket launchers) a separate strand of negotiations. Like, letโs curb the production. What is it, absurdity, insanity, a madman raving? Yet the US is quite serious about offering us to negotiate a new treaty on the reduction and limitation of strategic offensive arms. Like, we (the U.S) will be providing the Neo-Nazis in Ukraine with all kinds of weapons, including far-range missiles and aircraft, and with you (Russia), we will be discussing a new START treaty. What brazen cynical brutes.! Well, no, this is possible only after supplying the Bandera regime with weapons stops, and its acceptance to NATO is blocked. Otherwise, everything should go according to a totally different scenario; so that, just like in the 1950s and 1960s, the US is plunged into total psychosis of building bunkers against Russian bombs and missiles all over the place. Let their elites get nervous! Let these maggots tremble and shiver! And let one of them throw himself out of the window, screaming, โThe Russians are coming!โ just like the former US Defense secretary James Forestall did while in a psychiatric facility. 11 Likes 2 Shares
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