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Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Victerica(m): 1:25pm On Jun 23 |
Ironbull: That one concern you and God. The person don do what is needed of am... You tomorrow, go still do restitution too Besides, wetin you go gain self? |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by danigbo(m): 1:30pm On Jun 23 |
Who told you RESTITUTION is not in the Bible. Read the book of Genesis chapter chapter 20.And see what would have happened to Abimelech if he had not restored Sarah...Abraham's wife. 1 Like |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by omoredia: 1:32pm On Jun 23 |
It's not a must. Just like worshipping God. But the more u give for God the better off u would be in terms of your eternal reward |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by 12345baba(m): 1:40pm On Jun 23 |
U see y catholic tell una say big sin and small sin dey but una no go gree |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Ironbull: 1:45pm On Jun 23 |
Victerica: Alright I have heard you. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by macfish101(m): 1:47pm On Jun 23 |
Sheistoopretty:mental case |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by olamakinde(m): 2:03pm On Jun 23 |
Sheistoopretty:jennyclay wannabe |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by olowolekan(m): 2:04pm On Jun 23 |
Ironbull: You don't know the power of God. He would have prayed through and God directed him to come and confess to you. You will only forgive and pity him . Jacob and Esau comes to mind . God is more than man . Only ensure that God is leading you . |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Skii(m): 2:52pm On Jun 23 |
Iamblessed85: Exodus 22 |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Ironbull: 3:01pm On Jun 23 |
olowolekan: Alright, I have heard you. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Susbae: 3:45pm On Jun 23 |
For those saying restitution is not biblical, have you forgotten what Zachaeus did after his encounter with Jesus? He returned whatever he obtained by fraud to their rightful owners. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Pastoshizzy(m): 4:19pm On Jun 23 |
I'm MOVING.
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Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Pastoshizzy(m): 4:23pm On Jun 23 |
Sheistoopretty:Same Nigerian men sustaining your godmother - Jennyclay. Must be turn out hasn't been as before.
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Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by MalaikaEH(f): 4:42pm On Jun 23 |
Restitution seems like saying you want to pay for what Jesus had already paid for. It does not save. Only Jesus can save. Someone should do it anyway, if their conscience refused to free them. The thief that died on the cross with Jesus went to paradise without doing any restitution. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Chemlite: 6:02pm On Jun 23 |
quip:[color=#006600][/color] No one forced it on you! Someone brought a topic for discussion on this forum, and you requested for scriptural back up, which I did. Now, you're changing the narrative that it is not a commandment. Maybe you have to differentiate between a command and non-commandment. All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and they are profitable for doctrine, reproof, instruction, correction in righteousness. Restitution is a n evidence of salvation. In the book of Luke, Jesus made a statement after Zaccheus declaration "today salvation is come to this house" |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by CharlesofJesus: 6:25pm On Jun 23 |
we cannot "work" our way to heaven (Ephesians 2:8-9). Apostle Paul reminds us that we are saved by God's mercy, not by our own works or righteousness (Titus 3:5-7). When we put our faith in Jesus, we become new creatures in Christ, and old things pass away just as you have rightly said (2 Corinthians 5:17). Regarding restitution, Jesus did not command it as a requirement for salvation. Even Zacheous, who was familiar with the Law of God, was not commanded by Jesus to pay back those he had defrauded (Luke 19:1-10). While Zacheous chose to do so voluntarily, it's important to recognize that we cannot fully restore our past wrongdoings. As Matthew's story shows, Jesus' grace and forgiveness are available to us, despite our past mistakes (Matthew 9:9-13). Jesus did not emphasize restitution but rather faith, forgiveness, and a new life in Him. Let's rest in God's grace and mercy, knowing that our salvation is a gift, not earned by our works or efforts (Romans 3:24 ebubeson: |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by NzeChimereze1: 6:55pm On Jun 23 |
Sheistoopretty: You mean your father |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Chemlite: 7:32pm On Jun 23 |
[color=#006600][/color] Zubeezanga: The harlot was caught in the very act! Most people saw her. It was a public disgrace. Moreover, they wanted to execute her, while some are also guilty of same crime. That means, it is no longer secret. Moreover, Op acknowledged that there are some sins that do not need restitution. He even gave specific examples.Therefore, the harlot case is different. Personally, I think those that wanted to execute her should have even apologized to her. This part is my opinion "some persons might have slept with her or wanted her for themselves. It also possible that she rejected some, so an opportunity came for them to take their pound of flesh. Else, where was the man that committed the sin with her " |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 7:54pm On Jun 23 |
VOsimhen144:That's not correct. It's not the debts of restitution that Christ paid for Us. The debt Christ paid on the cross was the debt/wages of sin which is DEATH. We owed this. Debt to God who proclaimed that Law " Every soul that sineth MUST die". It was a huge debt that we have no capacity to pay for, and that sin created a demarcation between us and God. So that's why Christ had to come and pay for our sins with his innocent Life and dying the death that was meant for US. So through his death on the cross we are Saved from eternal death. Do you understand now? The debt of restitution is a moral act you do to your fellow man which testifies to your repentance. Zacchaeus paid restitution after receiving Christ into his life in Luke 19;8-9. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by exactly77(m): 7:55pm On Jun 23 |
Depends on what you mean by both. You can't pay for your sins to be forgiven. You can only appropriate the forgiveness purchased for us by admitting wrong by confessing your sins, asking for forgiveness and receiving forgiveness (accepting that you've been forgiven). As led, you can make amends by taking certain actions such as forgiving others, returning something you took illegally, leaving a sexually immoral relationship. To move on (as you asked), in this context means never to allow guilty conscience to hold you back, for the forgiveness of sins frees us from a guilty conscience (especially for damages that you caused that is no longer within your power to correct). |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by quip: 8:29pm On Jun 23 |
Chemlite: listen everyone, restitution is a matter of choice o. no go do pass yourself and enter hot soup. But if the holy Spirit prompts you to do it, by all means do it case closed |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Maysdevices(f): 8:36pm On Jun 23 |
jeromestarks:Whatever you say is true sweetheart, it’s your world |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by NaijaphiliaBlog: 8:51pm On Jun 23 |
StillDtruth: The Latin maxim "Ubi malus, ibi remedium" means "Where there is a wrong, there is a remedy". |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by NaijaphiliaBlog: 9:24pm On Jun 23 |
VOsimhen144: You have actually very succinctly demonstrated why restitution is important. Sin can fall into these categories: A. Against God B. Against fellow human being(s) C. Against the laws of the land OR Combination(s) of any of the above. When you become born again, of course God forgives you 100%. However, since you are still in this physical world, you can only be fully exonerated from consequences of past misdeeds by restitution. Let's take a simple example: Your friend borrows ₦10m from you for a contract, executes it with ₦30m profit, then tells you he is now born again and doesn't have to repay you. Will you agree? Or another: You have 5 children but discovered that only 1 of them is yours when you did DNA tests. Your wife says yes, she cheated on you in those days but is now born again so doesn't need to confess to you. Will you agree? WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY? LUKE 19:8-9 8. Zacchaeus stood there and said to the Lord, 'Look, half of my possessions, Lord, I will give to the poor; and if I have defrauded anyone of anything, I will pay back four times as much.' 9. Then Jesus said to him, 'Today salvation has come to this house, because he too is a son of Abraham'. PHILEMON 1:17-19 17. If thou count me therefore a partner, receive him as myself. 18. If he hath wronged thee, or oweth thee ought, put that on mine account; 19. I Paul have written it with mine own hand, I will repay it: albeit I do not say to thee how thou owest unto me even thine own self besides. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by BJanta: 9:58pm On Jun 23 |
ebubeson: Where are your Bible references. There's no need for any restitution. What is forgiveness if restitution is still required. Restitution is some Churches' doctrine that has no Biblical basis. Here what GOD said, '' I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins. Put me in remembrance: let us plead together: declare thou, that thou mayest be justified. Isaiah 43:25-26 KJV' Hebrews 8:12 KJV [12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, And their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. https://bible.com/bible/1/heb.8.12.KJV How can some sins require restitution and some don't? Is that a perfect doctrine. Is this a perfect law of liberty? How can some be pardoned without restitution, because their sins don't require restitution, but others punished for default in restituting their ' restitutable' sins. Bring out your scriptural support. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by Kalosemeka: 5:41am On Jun 24 |
DIVINEEVIDENCE: What if you partner refuse...then what will you do |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by StillDtruth: 6:36am On Jun 24 |
NaijaphiliaBlog: Precisely! That is The Real LawI It is wrongs that require remedy while rights only.require assertion! The one lawyers are taught is a half truth and half truths are the blackest of all lies Lord Alfred. |
Re: Must A Born Again Christian Do Restitution Or Simply Move Forward? by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 6:58am On Jun 24 |
Kalosemeka: Refuse to do what? Let me understand you. |
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