saddler:


Ofcourse it is. Slavery and buying of humans is in the bible. The Israelites were involved in it.

Even in the new testament, those who were preaching the gospel also promoted slavery along. There are several verses that proves this.

Ignorance
Christianity means Christ followers not Bible followers

The Bible encompasses times and lives of people like you and I and how they relate with God

femi4:
Ignorance
Christianity means Christ followers not Bible followers

The Bible encompasses times and lives of people like you and I and how they relate with God

Lol! Don't get angry because i am exposing a religion that was imposed on your ancestors.

The following bible verses promotes and supports slavery of humans.

Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).


You cannot tell someone that stealing and fornication is bad on one hand and then telling them that owning a human slave is good on the other hand.

It reeks of hypocrisy and double standards.

saddler:


Lol! Don't get angry because i am exposing a religion that was imposed on your ancestors.

The following bible verses promotes and supports slavery of humans.

Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).


You cannot tell someone that stealing and fornication is bad on one hand and then telling them that owning a human slave is good on the other hand.

It reeks of hypocrisy and double standards.

You lack insight and depth. The scripture wasn't originally written in English.
Those passages isn't talking about captive slaves but relationship between Bosses and employees.
Hence,

Ephesians 6:5 would read,

“Employees, obey your bosses with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.”

Colossians 3:22 would read,

“Employees, obey your bosses in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.”

1 Peter 2:18 would read,

“Employees, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your bosses, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh

saddler:


There is a difference between religion and advancement in science and technology.

Mention one technology or technique that was adopted from Christianity/bible?


That the colonizers adopted Christianity as tool was because they knew they needed something to control the mind of those who they want to enslave. And Christianity was available.



And you mentioned they abolished killing of twins?

What's the difference between aboloshing killing of twins and engaging in human slavery?

Aren't both crimes?

Keep shifting the goal post to suit your narrative.

femi4:
You lack insight and depth. The scripture wasn't originally written in English.
Those passages isn't talking about captive slaves but relationship between Bosses and employees.
Hence,

Ephesians 6:5 would read,

“Employees, obey your bosses with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.”

Colossians 3:22 would read,

“Employees, obey your bosses in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.”

1 Peter 2:18 would read,

“Employees, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your bosses, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh

Damn! I have never seen someone lying with impunity.

No where is the original translation of those verses is the word " employees" ever used.

Some transactions uses slaves while others uses bondservant.

saddler:


Damn! I have never seen someone lying with impunity.

No where is the original translation of those verses is the word " employees" ever used.

Some transactions uses slaves while others uses bondservant.

Not everyone is educated illiterate. Let me show you one

Ephesians 6:5 TPT

Those who are employed should listen to their employers and obey their instructions with great respect and honor. Serve them with humility in your hearts as though you were working for the Master

udemzyudex:


Keep shifting the goal post to suit your narrative.

Yes when you are cornered, it becomes shifting goal post.

You were mischievously trying to lump Christianity together with science and technology

I got you on that.

Just mention one technology that was gotten from the Bible

Baronthecelebri:
Rachel was beauty without brain.
And don't know how to make her marriage work, Leah gave Jacob manpower so that he can perform well.

This is the craziest thing have seen on the internet today. You get point tho

femi4:
Not everyone is educated illiterate. Let me show you one

Ephesians 6:5 TPT

Those who are employed should listen to their employers and obey their instructions with great respect and honor. Serve them with humility in your hearts as though you were working for the Master

Keep trying to be mischievous but the internet is free for everyone to check.

Here is Ephesians 6 vs 5 for you.


Amplified Bible
5 [a]Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with respect for authority, and with a sincere heart [seeking to please them], as [service] to Christ— 6 not in the way of eye-service [working only when someone is watching you and only] to please men, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart; 7 rendering service with goodwill, as to the Lord, and not [only] to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, he will receive this back from the Lord, whether [he is] slave or free

Your type will pick faults in your woman eh. Is jealousy not healthy in marriage? She lied for love. If she didn't now, your likes will still condemn that she has no love.

saddler:


Yes when you are cornered, it becomes shifting goal post.

You were mischievously trying to lump Christianity together with science and technology

I got you on that.

Just mention one technology that was gotten from the Bible

You've not answered my question go back to the initial post and answer my question then I'll answer your.

Stop gallivanting.

saddler:


Keep trying to be mischievous but the internet is free for everyone to check.

Here is Ephesians 6 vs 5 for you.


Amplified Bible
5 [a]Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with respect for authority, and with a sincere heart [seeking to please them], as [service] to Christ— 6 not in the way of eye-service [working only when someone is watching you and only] to please men, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart; 7 rendering service with goodwill, as to the Lord, and not [only] to men, 8 knowing that whatever good thing each one does, he will receive this back from the Lord, whether [he is] slave or free

Lol, you don give up. Thought you will come up with a more informed and intelligent submission. Anyway, take your L and run along

Hmmm it's easy to judge others.

udemzyudex:


You've not answered my question go back to the initial post and answer my question then I'll answer your.

Stop gallivanting.

I simply debunked your response because it wasn't a valid.

So you dont have a valid point for me to engage.

noble2faith:


The Saviour of the world came through Judah, one of Leah's 6 sons. Oya wetin u wan talk?

Joseph was greater than Judah in their lifetime

Oya wetin you dey talk... ?

I am not talking of the descendants of the 12 Sons

femi4:
Lol, you don give up. Thought you will come up with a more informed and intelligent submission. Anyway, take your L and run along

Oh! Were you blind to the bible verse i put up there?

Or you dont know the meaning of " Slaves, be obedient to your earthly masters"?

emaopel:
Did she enjoy the fruits of the son and was was she died early why her older husband was still alive throughout the period?

That doesn't change the fact that Joseph was greater than his 11 Brothers...

The Sun ☀️... The Moon 🌝 and 11 Stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Literally bowed down to the Son of Madam Rachel ..

saddler:


Oh! Were you blind to the bible verse i put up there?

Or you dont know the meaning of " Slaves, be obedient to your earthly masters"?

If you have short memories, I don't have.

Your word below against you...you wrote:

Some transactions uses slaves while others uses bondservant.

You can see that your knowledge is limited

Because she had no value and her husband found out many men had access to her.

The privacy of a woman is her value

femi4:
If you have short memories, I don't have.

Your word below against you...you wrote:

Some transactions uses slaves while others uses bondservant.

You can see that your knowledge is limited

Whether slaves or bondservants....same meaning.

How suddenly you dont know the meaning of slaves again. Wow! religion can be very stupid.

SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quantity.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Leah gave birth to Judah, I hope you know Jesus Christ is from his lineage? So which quality are you talking about?

Lezzlie:
Because she had no value and her husband found out many men had access to her.

The privacy of a woman is her value

the very reason women keep their body count, and the amount of times they've had abortions very private, especially to the man they plan to walk down the aisle with.

I'm starting to see reasons why it's prudent for a man to settle down with a woman with little or no body count. Even the little body count, I'll advise the man to move her away from that environment.

adedayoa2:
Leah gave birth to Judah, I hope you know Jesus Christ is from his lineage?

So which quality are you talking about?

The same Quality that saved the Household of Jacob from Famine...

You are talking of Jesus coming from Judah,

If Judah and his brethren had died of Famine , how would Jesus be born ?

Joseph remains the Greatest of the 12 Sons of Israel.

The Sun ☀️, the Moon 🌝 and 11 Stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

All bowed down to him in their lifetime.

stagger:


Debatable. Jesus came from Judah's lineage.

Same way Achan came from the tribe of Judah.
Joshua 7 vs 1

SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quantity.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Shallow pastor. But Jesus didn't come through her... ohhh you forgot that?

saddler:

See Africans arguing about and worshipping the ancestors of a people in faraway middle east.

The colonialists left Africa a long time ago but those who were enslaved are still having the chains on and happily brandishing it.

Ehhh oga rest abeg. Where are the teachings of our early African fathers?

Bring their history and we will discuss about it.

Daejumong:
She was gorgeous and had a hot body, she was the favourite of her hubby yet she didn’t last in marriage! It appears beauty is not enough!

Rachel was beautiful in face and body( Gen 29:17). Her physical appearance swept Jacob off his feet and he worked 14yrs to have her as wife!

She was also a hardworking lady, a shepherdess(Gen 29:9). Jacob loved her work ethics.

Rachel however had some flaws which probably because of her looks were overlooked by Jacob!

1- Stealing and Idolatry
Gen 31: 19 When Laban had gone to shear his sheep, Rachel stole her father’s household gods.

2- Lying and deceit
Gen 31:34,35
34 Now Rachel had taken the household gods and put them inside her camel’s saddle and was sitting on them. Laban searched through everything in the tent but found nothing.
35 Rachel said to her father, “Don’t be angry, my lord, that I cannot stand up in your presence; I’m having my period.” So he searched but could not find the household gods.

3- Jealousy
Gen 30:1 When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister.

4- Unhealthy Competition with her Sister
Gen 30:7 Rachel’s servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son.
8 Then Rachel said, “I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won.” So she named him Naphtali.

5- Mental health struggles/Desperation
Gen 30:1. So she said to Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!”

Rachel was an uncommon beauty but had her flaws just like all of us. She sadly died after the birth of her second son Benjamin! She sadly did not live long enough to enjoy her marriage! It was devastating for Jacob as well!

Jacob unknowingly cursed Rachel to death when Laban pursued and asked about his stolen gods
Gen 31:31,32
31 Jacob answered Laban, “I was afraid, because I thought you would take your daughters away from me by force. 32 But if you find anyone who has your gods, that person shall not live. ……Now Jacob did not know that Rachel had stolen the gods.

Leah who was not favoured initially eventually became the number one and gave Jacob six sons and a daughter!

Prov 31:30
Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

Your poor bible comprehension is alarming.

So being beautiful is a crime or desiring beauty is?

There was no biblical evidence that Leah feared the Lord, God locked Rachel womb simple, those stories of idolatry and stealing and lying are just excuses, she was raised differently with idols so obviously she had to worship idol.

You can't just take bible story without context, only God can explain why anything happened in the bible.

YourGFsnatcher:

Shallow pastor. But Jesus didn't come through her... ohhh you forgot that?

Fake Prophet..

If not for Joseph, you will not hear of Jesus...

Joseph became Prime minister and saved his household from famine.

Judah and his brethren would have died of hunger if not for Joseph.

If you understand anything about Typology, then you will understand that Joseph (Not Judah) was a type of the Christ that was to come.

The Sun ☀️, the Moon 🌝 and 11 Stars all bowed down to Joseph.

Joseph remains the greatest amongst the Sons of Israel.

femi4:
Her death has nothing to do with her character

This your caption and the overall message was poorly articulated

very poor and out of context. His Caption made it sound like the lady was one of our contemporary. I wonder what her death got to do with the points raised

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SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quantity.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Joseph is not the greatest of the 12 sons of Jacob
Judah is the greatest, read the book of genesis 49.

hibeatz200:
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Joseph is not the greatest of the 12 sons of Jacob
Judah is the greatest, read the book of genesis 49.

Judah would have died of hunger and famine if not for Joseph...

Joseph (Not Judah) was a type of the Christ that was to come..

The Sun ☀️ Moon 🌝 and 11 Stars ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ ⭐ did not bow to Judah but to Joseph.

In their lifetime, Joseph was the Greatest.

joseph1832:
the very reason women keep their body count, and the amount of times they've had abortions very private, especially to the man they plan to walk down the aisle with.

I'm starting to see reasons why it's prudent for a man to settle down with a woman with little or no body count. Even the little body count, I'll advise the man to move her away from that environment.

a used woman is like a used car, bro. You will pay for the use of the previous owners

Today's generation of men are pussies and bastards.

They have lowered their standards and put hoes on a pedestal.

Your respect and pride is tied to how your woman has been used or not used. Even if you invent a time machine, men will lose respect if your woman had been accessed by many men.