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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:05am On Jun 25
Kilishihunter:
This is awful, and lots of people were coming for Ronaldinho's neck when he voiced out his displeasure about the national team, this is just crazy

Brazil too Dey gba

Once neymar comes back he instantly becomes the best player in this team and they will be worth watching

Somalicius junior cannot even bring his Madrid performance to the national team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:07am On Jun 25
Vischy:


This Copa America is seriously shit, Brazil played goal less draw against mighty Costa Rica.

Where is so called balon d'or contender vinicius junior when he's needed most? Even rodrygo ghosted?

When I said vinicius and Bellingham doesn't deserve balon d'or shouts when lewandoski and haaland didn't win it ,it looks like a joke.

Afcon is better.

I will accept akpororo winning the ballon d or as the ucl best player

If the other guy wins it then this sport is finished grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:44am On Jun 25
andrewbaba44:


I will accept akpororo winning the ballon d or as the ucl best player

If the other guy wins it then this sport is finished grin
Not according to a certain phone OS here


Foden for ballon d'or or Nothing!!!!! The most naturally talented English footballer of all time!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 6:45am On Jun 25
oliverano:


Nothing against Ronaldo.

But it's not so hard to understand his point nah. I mean one is not like the other nah.

Ronaldo played more matches in Europe Messi has most goals scored...meaning Ronaldo has appeared more in Europe while Messi has scored the most goals in same Europe. This one is particularly limited to Europe. By Europe I think he's looking at club football in Europe not international football.

Ronaldo has more goals scored but it is Messi with most golden boot...This one is more generic but here, Ronaldo has almost 1000 goals(all comps), but Messi despite not scoring up to that has won more golden golden boots in general...all comps.

They're not the same, look again.
Both could literally be attributed to Messi playing in just one league for 98% of his career. He never changed league and clubs that will cause him to adapt like Ronaldo did on numerous occasions which will dent his numbers. This is a Link of Messi admitting how difficult it was adapting to Psg, new environment and new league before you tell us those things don't have any impact. Why do you think Messi went from 30 la Liga goals and la Liga golden boot to 6 league goals in France.

https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/messi-says-he-struggled-adapt-after-psg-move-some-fans-treated-him-differently-2023-06-23/



When you check Ronaldo goal record and goal ratio for just La Liga and Madrid you get a clearer picture of what Messi enjoyed for 98% of his career. He gets the edge in those statistics because Ronaldo started his Career in England.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 7:06am On Jun 25
oliverano:


Nothing against Ronaldo.

But it's not so hard to understand his point nah. I mean one is not like the other nah.

Ronaldo played more matches in Europe Messi has most goals scored...meaning Ronaldo has appeared more in Europe while Messi has scored the most goals in same Europe. This one is particularly limited to Europe. By Europe I think he's looking at club football in Europe not international football.

Ronaldo has more goals scored but it is Messi with most golden boot...This one is more generic but here, Ronaldo has almost 1000 goals(all comps), but Messi despite not scoring up to that has won more golden golden boots in general...all comps.

They're not the same, look again.

Then he should’ve distinctly said it’s club football. Ronaldo, all his life, has played in Europe. Saying Messing has more goals than him in Europe and then saying he has more goals than Messi overall in the next sentence is a symptom that requires hospitalization.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 7:08am On Jun 25
hensben:
You didn’t get it, check, read and then comprehend for easy assimilation.

I’m not going to try to understand the words of a crazy man who lives in his own world. Only those who live in that same world of his can understand him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:10am On Jun 25
Unlimited22:

Not according to a certain phone OS here


Foden for ballon d'or or Nothing!!!!! The most naturally talented English footballer of all time!

Foden na my guy ,but ballon d or ke ,when that one start ?

We suppose tie egbon Android rope and beat am for that foden ballon d or talk cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 7:15am On Jun 25
Vischy:


20goals a season doesn't win balon d'or,it should be cancelled this year.

Kane had a better season same as Mbappe with 50+ goals.


The favourites are average

Or maybe Ronaldo and Messi have been so exceptional for the last decade the new generation is struggling to meet up to their ballon d’or levels.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:21am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Or maybe Ronaldo and Messi have been so exceptional for the last decade the new generation is struggling to meet up to their ballon d’or levels.


Agreed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 7:34am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Or maybe Ronaldo and Messi have been so exceptional for the last decade the new generation is struggling to meet up to their ballon d’or levels.

Is that really the case. Mbappe and Haaland who are the frontrunners are putting in similar numbers.

This season Mbappe had 43goals in 54 appearances. Last season he had 53goals in 57games. Haaland had 42goals in 48 games this season and 60goals in 62games last season. To put it into perspective Messi only has 3 60goal season in his career. I don't think this new generation will struggle in dropping similar numbers with how attacking football has become.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ijustwantto: 7:38am On Jun 25
I wasn't able to watch the copa. Sleep carry be go cheesy grin
But I heard that vini and fraudrigo suddenly turn to eibar players. Na true?? 🤣
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:39am On Jun 25
Zero shots and zero dribbles completed against Costa Rica of all people

But if it’s the likes of kdb foden and other man city players we will be hearing system players from everyone ,but somalicius junior is not a system player because maybe ancelotti doesn’t have a system at Madrid grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 7:56am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Or maybe Ronaldo and Messi have been so exceptional for the last decade the new generation is struggling to meet up to their ballon d’or levels.


Aside Ronaldo and Messi,Salah has posted 20 goals for 5 seasons including some other players so my statement is correct.

Anyone good enough can score 20 goals especially strikers.

But balon d'or are for exceptional players.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 7:58am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

Is that really the case. Mbappe and Haaland who are the frontrunners are putting in similar numbers.

This season Mbappe had 43goals in 54 appearances. Last season he had 53goals in 57games. Haaland had 42goals in 48 games this season and 60goals in 62games last season. To put it into perspective Messi only has 3 60goal season in his career. I don't think this new generation will struggle in dropping similar numbers with how attacking football has become.

So true no excuse for average players to win balon d'or
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 8:00am On Jun 25
Unlimited22:

Not according to a certain phone OS here


Foden for ballon d'or or Nothing!!!!! The most naturally talented English footballer of all time!

He wasn't wrong ,foden had similar stats of 20 goals just like Bellingham and Vinicius junior with premier league and club world cup as trophies.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 8:02am On Jun 25
Vischy:
💙✨ Erling Haaland’s debut season at Manchester City was best debut season ever 🇳🇴

— 52 goals, most ever for PL player
— 36 league goals, most ever in PL season
— Treble
— UCL
— PL
— FA Cup
— Super Cup
— PL Player of the Season
— PFA Player of the Year
— PL Young Player of the Season
— FWA Footballer of the Year
— UEFA Player of the Year
— Golden Boot
— Golden Shoe
— UCL top scorer
— Gerd Müller Trophy
Ballon d’Or runner up


This is a deserving balon d'or winner.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 8:03am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

Is that really the case. Mbappe and Haaland who are the frontrunners are putting in similar numbers.

This season Mbappe had 43goals in 54 appearances. Last season he had 53goals in 57games. Haaland had 42goals in 48 games this season and 60goals in 62games last season. To put it into perspective Messi only has 3 60goal season in his career. I don't think this new generation will struggle in dropping similar numbers with how attacking football has become.

Similar numbers, maybe, but the impact level is quite different.

We all know Ronaldo is the definition of clutch, especially at his peak. Messi himself has had magnificent impact on important games whenever his team is on course to a trophy.

Mbappe and Haaland may have numbers but their impact, especially at crucial moments, has mostly been tame. They are easily tamed. Ronaldo and Messi aren’t.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 8:06am On Jun 25
Vischy:


Aside Ronaldo and Messi,Salah has posted 20 goals for 5 seasons including some other players so my statement is correct.

Anyone good enough can score 20 goals especially strikers.

But balon d'or are for exceptional players.

Agreed.

Messi and CR7 were anveraging over 30 league goals steady during their peak. They accompanied their numbers with immense impact, trophies, and clutch moment in big matches.

Salah didnt reach or exceed that level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:14am On Jun 25
Vischy:


He wasn't wrong ,foden had similar stats of 20 goals just like Bellingham and Vinicius junior with premier league and club world cup as trophies.
You're not serious 😂😂😂
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 8:21am On Jun 25
Unlimited22:

You're not serious 😂😂😂

I know it's funny but it's gonna be more funny when any of Vinicius junior or Bellingham wins balon d'or with average stats. grin grin grin grin grin cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 8:23am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Similar numbers, maybe, but the impact level is quite different.

We all know Ronaldo is the definition of clutch, especially at his peak. Messi himself has had magnificent impact on important games whenever his team is on course to a trophy.

Mbappe and Haaland may have numbers but their impact, especially at crucial moments, has mostly been tame. They are easily tamed. Ronaldo and Messi aren’t.
Mbappe has produced the numbers, clutch moment and impacts. World cup goals and golden boot, hatrick in a world cup final, scored in two world cup finals, numerous world class performance In the champions league knock out stages, etc


Haaland hasn't produced to the level of Mbappe In terms of champions league knockout stages and world cup but his record against the top teams is still very impressive. He has 12goals and 7 assists in 19games against the so called big 6 in England. Plus numerous goals against the top teams in the champions league.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 8:48am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

Mbappe has produced the numbers, clutch moment and impacts. World cup goals and golden boot, hatrick in a world cup final, scored in two world cup finals, numerous world class performance In the champions league knock out stages, etc


Haaland hasn't produced to the level of Mbappe In terms of champions league knockout stages and world cup but his record against the top teams is still very impressive. He has 12goals and 7 assists in 19games against the so called big 6 in England. Plus numerous goals against the top teams in the champions league.

Mbappe has been phenomenal for France, but let’s not kid ourselves, his stint at PSG has been woeful. Their last UCL campaign is just disgraceful. He wasn’t clutch for his club and never led them to new heights.

Same with Haaland. He’s never done anything of note for his country and his record at Man City is mostly against low hanging fruits. When Arsenal became toff, he found it difficult to score against thrm. Same as in the UCL. His performances did not merit his perceived levels.

Now, I’m not saying they’re terrible players. At all. But compared with Ororo and Ankara Messi, igimu jina sori mehn. That’s why it seems as if they don’t merit the ballondor. They do. But we can’t compare them to those 2 gods.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 8:50am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Mbappe has been phenomenal for France, but let’s not kid ourselves, his stint at PSG has been woeful. Their last UCL campaign is just disgraceful. He wasn’t clutch for his club and never led them to new heights.

Same with Haaland. He’s never done anything of note for his country and his record at Man City is mostly against low hanging fruits. When Arsenal became toff, he found it difficult to score against thrm. Same as in the UCL. His performances did not merit his perceived levels.

Now, I’m not saying they’re terrible players. At all. But compared with Ororo and Ankara Messi, igimu jina sori mehn. That’s why it seems as if they don’t merit the ballondor. They do. But we can’t compare them to those 2 gods.


How can you judge Mbappe performance in the champions league with Psg and call it wooful because Psg as a team didn't qualify or do well. Messi had so many good performances for Barca in the ch
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 8:55am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

How can you judge Mbappe performance in the champions league with Psg and call it wooful because Psg as a team didn't qualify or do well. Messi had so many good performances for Barca in the ch

Messi has had phenomenal performances in the elimination stages of the UCL, even when Barca lost the game (semi against Man Utd in 2008 for example). Then he went and won the UCL the next year, being one of Barca’s top performer.

In essence, he competed at the highest level of club football and won the best teams. Mbappe never did that for PSG- even when they were in pole position to do so.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 8:55am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

Mbappe has produced the numbers, clutch moment and impacts. World cup goals and golden boot, hatrick in a world cup final, scored in two world cup finals, numerous world class performance In the champions league knock out stages, etc


Haaland hasn't produced to the level of Mbappe In terms of champions league knockout stages and world cup but his record against the top teams is still very impressive. He has 12goals and 7 assists in 19games against the so called big 6 in England. Plus numerous goals against the top teams in the champions league.
Nor of this two has really play to the level of Ronaldo and Messi, Mbappe may be catching up but Haaland is no near at all.

Haaland having 10 touches and scoring 2goals in a match is not a top level performance.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 9:08am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Mbappe has been phenomenal for France, but let’s not kid ourselves, his stint at PSG has been woeful. Their last UCL campaign is just disgraceful. He wasn’t clutch for his club and never led them to new heights.

Same with Haaland. He’s never done anything of note for his country and his record at Man City is mostly against low hanging fruits. When Arsenal became toff, he found it difficult to score against thrm. Same as in the UCL. His performances did not merit his perceived levels.

Now, I’m not saying they’re terrible players. At all. But compared with Ororo and Ankara Messi, igimu jina sori mehn. That’s why it seems as if they don’t merit the ballondor. They do. But we can’t compare them to those 2 gods.


How can you judge Mbappe performance in the champions league with Psg and call it wooful because Psg as a team didn't qualify or do well. Are you saying Messi champions league performances were also wooful the seasons Barca didn't do well and got trashed by Liverpool, Roma, Bayern? Last season alone he scored against real socidead in the round of 16 and Barcelona in the quarterfinal before Psg were eliminated in the semis. That's what you are referring to as wooful lol. In what standard is 20goals in 28 knockout matches for Psg plus a champions league final wooful?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bombblacks: 9:18am On Jun 25
TheLequte:


Messi has had phenomenal performances in the elimination stages of the UCL, even when Barca lost the game (semi against Man Utd in 2008 for example). Then he went and won the UCL the next year, being one of Barca’s top performer.

In essence, he competed at the highest level of club football and won the best teams. Mbappe never did that for PSG- even when they were in pole position to do so.
You are telling me Mbappe never stepped up against the best teams in the champions league knockout stages? Are you joking or what. You are judging Mbappe performance on Psg failures which is wrong. You are indirectly saying those seasons that Barca failed to win the champions league and were trashed by Bayern, Liverpool, Roma etc Messi was wooful and didn't do anything. Mbappe has performed in the Champions league without a single shred of doubt. His record speaks for him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheLequte: 9:26am On Jun 25
Bombblacks:

How can you judge Mbappe performance in the champions league with Psg and call it wooful because Psg as a team didn't qualify or do well. Are you saying Messi champions league performances were also wooful the seasons Barca didn't do well and got trashed by Liverpool, Roma, Bayern?

Yes, it was woeful. Or more aptly put- it wasn’t at the level we’ve known Messi to have. However, Messi had enough credit in the bank, having shown in previous seasons that he is him.

Mbappe never reach that level. Yet.


Last season alone he scored against real socidead in the round of 16 and Barcelona in the quarterfinal before Psg were eliminated in the semis. That's what you are referring to as wooful lol. In what standard is 20goals in 28 knockout matches for Psg plus a champions league final wooful?

Real Sociedad. A team that Aston Villa has a bigger European pedigree than. Shame no catch you?

Even the Barca of last season is not one of the best teams in the world at that time.

In essence, last season is not a good yard stick to judge PSG with. They hardly qualified from a group of Newcastle, AC Milan and Dortmund. Then they barely scraped by teams they should be beating black and blue until that average Bayern put them out of their misery. And Mbappe was their star man.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 9:41am On Jun 25
🚨 BREAKING: Newcastle have discussed Noni Madueke internally. (@TheAthleticFC) #CFC

swap deal with ISAK would be the best deal for Chelsea
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Arizoner: 9:50am On Jun 25
Unlimited22:

Not according to a certain phone OS here


Foden for ballon d'or or Nothing!!!!! The most naturally talented English footballer of all time!
he is nowhere near the class of Rooney, Owen, shearer, Gerard, scholes, Beckham, fowler, lineker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by toluxe0075: 9:51am On Jun 25
Realtord43:
Nor of this two has really play to the level of Ronaldo and Messi, Mbappe may be catching up but Haaland is no near at all.

Haaland having 10 touches and scoring 2goals in a match is not a top level performance.

Here is the main issue. How can anyone watch Messi dribble, create chances, dictate the pace of game, score goals, score free kicks, score solo goals and say someone with 9 touches in a match is catching up with him simply because he tapped in 2 crosses from De Bruyne.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 10:12am On Jun 25
In the mud. 😅😅😅😅

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