Napoleon55:

You did not understand what I meant.

I meant if someone turns up in the future and start belittling the quality of today's game making it look inferior to theirs.
What would be your likely reactions considering the fact that u watched KDB,Messi and co played .

TheGoodJoe:


That is where the gulf in class comes from. The intensity from De Bruyne is on another level.

Marjoribanks:
The fact remains I was the first to mention his name here. Watching him play that day I immediately knew he is a great talent. It is not hard to check whoscore/livescore for a player's position.
I made my comment based on what I was seeing on the pitch. I could easily have checked whoscore/livescore for his position before posting. lol!

I agree with your point then, only after confirming his role from whoscore, however on the pitch he wasn't playing that role! Only Motta can explain!
His assist against Czech came from the midfield-- A central midfielder position.

TheGoodJoe:


Inverted left back and center backs. Most modern coaches invert wingbacks and center backs to the midfield.

TheSuperNerd:
Bastoni, Stones, Ake and now Calafiori are examples of inverted CBs or Libero-like CBs who can come into midfield but no we should call them midfielders. It is funny.

Great point My Top Man.🤜🏽🤛🏽💯

TheGoodJoe:


😂

My hands are clean. I only explained to him why Calafiori was in the midfield position while watching. I didn't saw we should call him midfielder. Innocent analyst like me. 😁

Maka why did you not include Akanji in your inverted CB list?

Meliforme:
Super eagles midfielders with the most long balls

Kelechi Nwakali
Raphael Onyedika
Ifeanyi Mathew

Finidi targeted a long ball strategy against the South Africans, he did not invite Kelechi Nwakali and Ifeanyi Mathew. Raphael Onyedika that he did invite even started from the bench.

komekn:


Most players don't resort to long Balls as a main skill set strategy because they have other football competencies and attributes.

Anybody 😦 can play a long ball but the timing and accuracy of the long pass is the key 🗝️. Consider Trent his ability to do the long left or right foot within a mini second makes him stand out.

But then it's his pin point delivery from free kicks dead balls, shirt and long passes his reading of the game through balls and crosses plus the ability to shoot and score not just long ball that makes him a top level player.

Instead of us too look at better players you are mentioning Nwakali & Mathew .

Kog45:
Pls is inverted CB a manifestation of today’s football.

komekn:


Most players don't resort to long Balls as a main skill set strategy because they have other football competencies and attributes.

Anybody 😦 can play a long ball but the timing and accuracy of the long pass is the key 🗝️. Consider Trent his ability to do the long left or right foot within a mini second makes him stand out.

But then it's his pin point delivery from free kicks dead balls, shirt and long passes his reading of the game through balls and crosses plus the ability to shoot and score not just long ball that makes him a top level player.

Instead of us too look at better players you are mentioning Nwakali & Mathew .

Kog45:
Pls is inverted CB a manifestation of today’s football.

chuks404:
but nwakali has the quality nah. You shouldn't write off a player like that. Emphasis here is on longball

TheGoodJoe:


😂

My hands are clean. I only explained to him why Calafiori was in the midfield position while watching. I didn't saw we should call him midfielder. Innocent analyst like me. 😁

Maka why did you not include Akanji in your inverted CB list?

Kog45:
Pls is inverted CB a manifestation of today’s football.

TheGoodJoe:


The inversion comes with the modern day idea of attacking the offensive area with numerous players, sometimes 6 to 7 players. This leaves a lot of room for the opposition to counter attack.

Inversion creates a narrow shield to limit a center direct counter play.

TheSuperNerd:
I would say Inverted CB is a manifestation firstly of the football of the past but only more refined and more in use today than before.

Franz Beckenbauer was the first truly recognised Inverted CB/Libero. There may have been others before him but he was the most recognised in the 60s and 70s. He was a defender like no other and till today remains one of the greatest CBs of all time.

TheGoodJoe:


I have never argued about that. Zidane can do things with the ball that Kevin De Bruyne can't dream of. I have always maintained that.

Where the confusion came in came to preference. I prefer Kevin De Bruyne because of his offensive contributions over Zidane. Does not mean Zidane's technical impact is not impactful or downplaying Zidane in anyway. I prefer De Bruyne's wingfielder approach.

TheSuperNerd:
I would say Inverted CB is a manifestation firstly of the football of the past but only more refined and more in use today than before.

Franz Beckenbauer was the first truly recognised Inverted CB/Libero. There may have been others before him but he was the most recognised in the 60s and 70s. He was a defender like no other and till today remains one of the greatest CBs of all time.

kennysville:




Truth be told... you prefer DeBruyne because he plays in Man City.... it comes down to bias and not based on objectivity.

TheSuperNerd:
Akanji just skipped my mind at the point of my writing. Ofcourse he is another fine example. Mats Hummels as well.

I didn't want to list so many. A few was enough to make the point.

And you Innocent? Keep capping My Good man Joe

milann:
Do you people know the literal meaning of inverted at all?

Philosopher1979:


People here may not agree but olisah ndah has the qualities of a libero. Immediately you see him play you will notice.

milann:
There is nothing like inverted CB. You people should stop misleading folks. It's utility CB

TheGoodJoe:


Please do a research on Thiago Motta's tactics. It is mind blowing and I think Inzaghi is in for a battle. He views football instead of from one side of the post to the other, he views it from the left side of the pitch to the right. I know you will do justice to it. Calafiori is one of the beneficiaries of his idea.

It is criminal for the thesis files of coaches not made public.

TheGoodJoe:


Please do a research on Thiago Motta's tactics. It is mind blowing and I think Inzaghi is in for a battle. He views football instead of from one side of the post to the other, he views it from the left side of the pitch to the right. I know you will do justice to it. Calafiori is one of the beneficiaries of his idea.

It is criminal for the thesis files of coaches not made public.

TheGoodJoe:


I didn't notice it in the past. It is something I noticed from Pep Guardiola. What I know we had in the past were Sweeper defenders who were creative and also good with dictating play with passes like midfielders. A person that was so good at that was Matthias Sammer in his later days.

Football in the past was rigid when it came to positioning. You will not find Roberto Carlos or Cafu living their roles to go to the midfield to control games. Nor Celestine or Mobi.

typicalgamer:


This table you they shake my drink 🍹 they inside o

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with you. John Stones inverts when he plays as a center back. Same with Akanji.

Explain to us the difference between utility and inversion. I am waiting.

TheSuperNerd:
I would say Inverted CB is a manifestation firstly of the football of the past but only more refined and more in use today than before.

Franz Beckenbauer was the first truly recognised Inverted CB/Libero. There may have been others before him but he was the most recognised in the 60s and 70s. He was a defender like no other and till today remains one of the greatest CBs of all time.