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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Gondonu: 3:26am On Jun 29 |
Where is the asslicker Reno Omokri coming from with this history? This man is just catching cruise with blatant lies and propaganda. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Validated: 3:55am On Jun 29 |
SpatialKing:Truth ... however Igbos are no longer "slaves" now. Unfortunately, same cannot be said of the Yorubas in Ilorin, who are still slaves to their Fulani masters even to these days. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 6:57pm On Jun 29 |
Slytiger: Ijaw bought igbo as slaves from igbo Now read carefully at what I wrote , igbo had a OSU caste system where they sell criminals/ people who disobeyed the law And people that practiced this were Aro a subgroup of igbo. One thing about igbo is you cannot generalize them because they were divided into different subgroup Instead mention the subgroup that sold the people to ijaws. Aro subgroup were the ones involved in the slave trade, and they sold igbo considered criminals or neighboring communities to the white men Ijaw acted as a middleman and bought some for themselves which they will later free after some years. Saying ijaw enslaved igbo is stupid , Instead igbo sold igbo is better. Nri a subgroup of igbo never practiced slavery and considered everyone equal 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by opamoses1: 7:05pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr:With the amount of Igbos sold, it's hard to believe that all of them were criminals sold by the Aros. Raiding small villages was the most common with slavery. 2 Likes |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 7:06pm On Jun 29 |
GeneralPulal: When you mean enslave , what comes to your mind was that they were conquered First igbo were divided into subgroup, Nri ,aro and so on The igbo you claim you enslave were actually those the aro igbo sub group sold to the British and ijaw Those slave they sold were actually OSU Outcasts or neighboring villagers captured by the Aro igbo subgroup, but they were all levelled igbo because they were sold by igbo. Now Benin and ijaw combined could not have even defeated Aro subgroup, not to talk about other subgroup There is subgroup of igbo people who fought British for 30 good years ! Aro sub group of igbos fought British for 2 years or more Benin empire was torn down totally within only 9 days The problem here is the fact that igbo sold other igbo as slaves because Benin and ijaw combined are mere acts compared to even subgroup of igbo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 7:09pm On Jun 29 |
opamoses1: They were all mostly actually criminals sold by aro Aro were kinda brutal, aro too had slaves . I read somewhere an igbo man had Ijaw which he freed by baptizing him with water and naming him an igbo name as a sign of freedom The subgroup of igbo that didn't involve themselves in violence or slavery was NRI They were peace loving people who even freed slaves and gave them freedom, they were more advanced than others and were among the first to discover certain technologies like glass , wax tech and farming Did you know igbo also had pyramids? I blame the aro for tarnishing igbo image |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 7:36pm On Jun 29 |
Slytiger: I don't think I need to reply you again I already told you the slaves were sold to ijaw people by igbo people People igbo captured and sold as slaves too were called ibos or Igbos. Ijaw and any igbo subgrouo never fought any major war . The British itself would not even enslave igbo and were resisted for 30 good years! It's ijaw that would now enslave igbo? Okay if you say ijaws enslaved a sub hub of igbo then which igbo did the British fought since you claimed igbo were already conquered? Both ijaw and Benin didn't matter much but they are just too loud, people that British burned down their empire and captured everyone as slaves within 9 Days? |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Wickeddy: 7:57pm On Jun 29 |
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 8:29pm On Jun 29 |
Wickeddy: No need to laugh, the report is false The igbo subgroup of aro never engaged in any major war with Benin or ijaw Instead igbo of aro sold slaves to ijaw , slaves captured during tribal wars or OSU caste system Some of these slaves were not even igbo but because they were sold by aro igbo subgroup they were tagged as igbo Ijaw and Benin are too small , they were defeated within 9 days by the British Meanwhile it took 30 years for British to completely bring the igbo entirely down |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Dalohad: 8:56pm On Jun 29 |
Enslave Ibo to do what exactly? If they truly enslave Ibos to build their villages, why are they minorities to Ibos in all indices today? Why is Onitsha and Aba bigger and more developed than Benin and Bayelsa? |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Wickeddy: 8:58pm On Jun 29 |
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:01pm On Jun 29 |
Dalohad: Don't bother yourself, it's all a tactics by Reno . Asari dokubo tried to use the same tactics last year Thank goodness reality speaks for ndigbo, people can see who igbo people are today and they will surely know Reno is lying. Igbo amaka 2 Likes |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by saddler: 9:18pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr: Stop this trash you are dumping here. Igbos resisted British for 30 years? This only exists in your empty brain. ![]() ![]() Benin was the only tribe that resisted the British and fought head-on while your ancestors were easily colonized without any resistance. Now you are here spilling trash. 3 Likes |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:25pm On Jun 29 |
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:31pm On Jun 29 |
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by saddler: 9:31pm On Jun 29 |
[quote author=Voyagerr post=130720347][/quote] Stop spilling trash! There was no resistance from anything called igbo when it comes to colonization. Your ancestors were simply bushmen or slaves at best. Stop mentioning Anioma because that term is a recent word describing many ethnic groups who were under the Benin empire. They are not igbos and have always rejected being called igbos. Next time you want to bring a proof on history, dont bring a Revisionist idea that was written just a year ago. 1 Like |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:35pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: I don't even know what to call you , there are documents written and you are here saying trash out of emotion Benin that was captured in 9 days ?? Apart from the anioma people, Arochukwu igbo subgroup fought the British for 1 year and Nro resisted for about 2 years or so Benin is over hyped ! Today they have very little relevance. The same people you call bush men are the first set of people to discover the most wax art , engaged in advances farming, made bronzes and sculpture and had highly civilized religious practices Do you know igbo people also had pyramids? They're the only ethnicity to have one in Nigeria. |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:39pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: Igbo people were divided into subgroup and each were powerful, although NRI didn't practice slavery and were peace loving people, they didn't invade anyone but instead people joined them out of free will They freed slaves and practiced a Democratic system, while most empires were fighting each other like bunch of terrorists and bandits Nri already had advancement and discovered the lost wax technique before even the British They were civilized enough to know war is a waste of time and instead they built a civilization based on religious practices, peace and love. All the rest of the empires were just fighting like idiots, where is the Benin empire now? Or the ijaw ? When you spend all your time fighting and now you are living in old Glory Falsifying documents to make yourself look great while worshipping a man like you as a God ! |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by saddler: 9:44pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr: You may tag it old glory or whatever term but trying to distort or misrepresent history is a criminal offense. When it comes to history, your tribe has almost nothing on the Benin Empire. The facts are there even by your own igbo kinsmen for you to check e.g Nnamdi Azikwe, Olaudah Equiano, and now the Obi of Onitsha. Let history be history, dont distort it. 2 Likes |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Yujin(m): 9:48pm On Jun 29 |
Slytiger:Many of you just wake up and start writing incorrect stories about Ndigbo that you love to hate. I wonder what you seek to achieve through your misinformation. If it is to psychologically sell the idea of Ndigbo being an inferior people, then clearly you're delusional. Ndigbo have never felt inferior to any human not even the Europeans that came with superior technology. History is history and can never be changed especially when there are facts on ground to back it up. The only ethnic group that indeed raided and enslaved some Igbo communities where the Igalas. They did this mostly in the Northern fringes of Igboland around the Nsukka area. Though they became Igbonized overtime due to the superiority of the Igbo culture, some of their vestiges still remained. In northern Anambra, they didn't enslave anyone because they didn't succeed. They eventually settled down and also became Igbonised. The Awka people have a story to protecting an unknown Igbo group who ran to them for protection from their pursuers who were raiding them. Awka people gave them a land to occupy within Awka before facing their pursuers who most likely were Igalas and decimated them. The land given to those Igbo groups fleeing was called Ama-obia and is still called by the same name today. As for the Ijaws, there's no single record of them raiding a single Igbo community. Whatever slaves some Ijaw merchants (middlemen) had, they purchased from Igbo slave traders who were mostly Aro Igbos on the Eastern and Southern parts of the Niger Delta. The same Aros sold Igbos to Efik merchants who were the middlemen in Calabar slave ports. Notice Igbo language didn't feature in Calabar because Igbo middlemen weren't there as fellow traders with the Efiks but in Bonny and Kalabari areas in Rivers state, Igbo middlemen alongside Ijaw middlemen bought enslaved people of different ethnic groups with Igbos being the majority simply because we had a dense population far above the rest. On the Western side of the Niger, another Igbo group sold enslaved people. This was done by the Ukwuani Igbos and they sold them to Ijaws of Brass who took them further down to Kalabari areas and sold to both Igbo and Kalabari Ijaw middlemen. There are books that explained this very well. Ijaws were also heavily fragmented and weren’t effective for anything on land. They were mostly known for piracy on the waterways during those days so it's a thing of wonder to say Ijaws raided any Igbo community. The Ukwuani Igbos mostly of Aboh got the enslaved people who they sold mostly by buying them from Igalas and others they got from raiding and defeating communities around them with whom they had problems. Aboh was very powerful back in the days. Among the enslaved people they bought from the Igalas were other Igbos(I am certain were victims of the Nsukka raids), Hausas, other middlebelt ethnic groups and probably minorities from far away Adamawa region. Igalas raided other ethnicities of the middlebelt for slaves too. Finally, the Itsekiris were very tiny and faraway from any Igbo community. They have no border with any Igbo community and must travel pass a lot of Urhobo communities before getting to the fringes of Ukwuani who had a powerful kingdom at the time. It's madness from Reno Omokri to put Itsekiri and Igbo in one sentence. Finally, as a yeriba, you should take out the log of wood from your eyes before attempting to talk about the speck of dust in our eyes. You were raided and sold by many ethnic groups. It was well documented. The Binis ruled over the entire Ondo state and parts of Ekiti where they exacted slaves. The Fon raided and sold yeribas at Ouidah slave ports. The Fulanis raided and sold yeriba slaves and the Nupes also raided and sold your people after destroying the old capital of Oyo kingdom known as Oyo Ile. A Fulani emir even rules you yeribas till date and his descendants will continue to rule Ilorin till the end of time. |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 9:57pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: I don't think most Nigerian have a very high IQ You think this is a street Battle? I'm stating facts and you're arguing with your emotions Benin empire might be great but great to itself alone Igbo never had an empire but your subgroups were powerful enough, NRI alone had so much achievement and were peace loving people I did not say anything that didn't happen about the Benin neither did I falsify anything Benin was defeated in 9 days! The empire fell off and the oba ran away. Igbo as a whole weee not easily defeated because they were divided into subgroups If the whole igbo has joined forces to form an empire it would have been brutal because they had the tech and the normal and achieved a lot even as subgroups. But I am glad they didn't form any empire, I don't like the method used by empires , they just kill and keep killing amd keep expanding until they lose everything. |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 10:02pm On Jun 29 |
Validated: The people aro igbo sub group sold were the ones that were slaves , the slaves were not fully taken by conquests They were sold by Aro a subgroup of igbo , Unlike NRI that never practiced slavery and were peace loving people, they expanded not by war but by peace Nri didn't fight war , they believed in peace and controlled trade and commerce. They freed slaves and their land were called Holy land . Any slave who step is foot in Nri automatically becomes free Nri has already discovered the act of wax broozing, metal,and had advanced religious and agricultural system. They even had pyramids! No empire have it in Nigeria! Igbo history is rich , don't let terrorists and savages fool you with Petty talks . People whose people are a minority today |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by chopnaira: 10:04pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr:My favourite book about Nigerian tribe. 1 Like
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Gerhards: 10:04pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: Illiterate, can you stop fouling this thread with your demented ignorance!! 1 Share
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Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 10:07pm On Jun 29 |
chopnaira: If you understand how igbo were then you would understand they were divided into sub groups It was not until the British came and united all igbo speaking people. Don't bring out books written by who knows who |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 10:11pm On Jun 29 |
chopnaira: Igbo are one of the largest ethnicity in Africa at large. Now like I said the Igbo operated in subgroup and were democratic in nature unlike empires that were all united terrorists. By then no tribe was really recognized then , it was not until the British united all igbo speaking people that we had the numbers we had today Even Benin and ijaws although both had an empire , not sure about ijaws but , today we have them in very little numbers. |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by saddler: 10:11pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr:These facts you are stating only exists in your head and over-bloated ego which has been shown to be in the average igbo man. Just blabbing and blabbing on the internet vomiting falsehood. Even when your kings and elders tells you the truth, you abuse them because they aren't saying what you want to hear The British punitive expedition in Benin lasted 3 weeks. This can be found almost everywhere accurately documented with the events that took place. But here you are spilling falsehood and trying to talk down on Benin who created a civilization your ancestors could only envy from afar. Keep on with your ego, its innate. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Voyagerr: 10:17pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: Which civilization did Benin create? Do you even know the meaning of civilization? British invaded Benin 9–18 February 1897 The whole greatness was brought down in no less than 2 weeks! What exactly was the civilization? Or the selling of slaves was the civilization? The oba that was killing his own people for sacrifices? Tell me what significant their civilization or whatever was ? At least we see great civilization today , the han dynasty, the Iran , British, Spanish and so on still producing great things Benin own is just mouth, apart from their art , what else did they make they will shock anyone? Over hyped! Get out |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by saddler: 10:35pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr: Your ancestors were not sensible enough to even be humanly organized. As at the time of the Benin Empire, the reigning form of human organization were Kingdoms and Empires. And Benin built one that stood out in what will later be known as Nigeria. It was even recognized by the outside world. This is also a fact you can check. Let's ask...what did your ancestors achieve? What were they known for? Cannibalism and being raided and sold as slaves. Even other Ethnic groups such as the Igala raided igbo villages and captured your ancestors. They took your lands and even installed their kings. Till today there are kings in igbo land( Enugu) who testify they are from Igala. Do you know what is called ",The Bight of Benin"? Benin Enpire was so great and recognized that the a bight along the West African coast was named after it. Do you also know the Republic of Benin 🇧🇯? That country derived it name from the Bight of Benin. What do you call that? Greatness At a time your ancestors were still in the bush, Benin was already being recognized by world powers as at that time. No need schooling you on the obvious. Next time you want to discuss or argue history, be careful about what you write and leave Benin out of your falsehood. Benin history is too documented to be distorted by a low-life like you. 3 Likes |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Gerhards: 10:36pm On Jun 29 |
Voyagerr: Stop making sense to those animals with human skin, is this a rocket science 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Gerhards: 10:38pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: Useless thing, see where humanly organized life,has gotten us into. Igbos are liberal in nature, we don't worship kings like sheep |
Re: Bini And Ijaw Were Able To Enslave Igbo Because They Were Not United - Omokri by Gerhards: 10:42pm On Jun 29 |
saddler: Do you forgot you grow up drinking garri morning and night? 1 Share
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