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| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:11pm On Jun 30 |
FxMasterz: You asked me: FxMasterz: So i EXPATIATED on what you quoted. Only those who have finished their race will be taken and they can't go unless they drop the flesh and blood (physical body) they are carrying {1Corinthians 15:50} they must put on the spiritual body which is only given to those who have finished their earthly mission. So anyone who is still living must die first before he or she can be turned into a spirit to join those going to heaven that's why Jesus said they can't marry there because it's physical bodies that determines our gender! Luke 20:34-36 |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by FxMasterz: 8:42pm On Jun 30 |
MaxInDHouse: You're not getting it. Leaders should teach but they cannot claim any monopoly of Revelation. Revelation is children's food. Every child partakes of it for spiritual growth. Every child of God has access to the deep things of God through the Holy Spirit of God in us. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by FxMasterz: 8:59pm On Jun 30 |
MaxInDHouse: Look at the bolded above please and compare with the scripture below: 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and [b[the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed[/b]." Do you see how the bolded in your comment directly contradicts scripture? Humble yourself before the Word of God please. Not before the words of your GB. The Word of God is bigger than your GB. Let me give you another scriptural.proof that the Body of Christ is a spiritual body. Ephesians 5:30-32 "for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church." The church, the body of Christ is the bride of Christ. Revelation 21:9-14 "One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb." Can you see that even the apostles who have gone ahead of us are still part of what makes the bride of Christ and by extension, the Body of Christ? 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:54pm On Jun 30 |
Aemmyjah: you agree with Christians that this mad max's thread titled: "The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven" is a stupid thread, .... good 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:59pm On Jun 30 |
Aemmyjah: especially in this stupid mad max thread where he said; Jesus began ruling in heaven in 1914 .... yeah i agree 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:13am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw old light that Jesus gave you, such as dates that never eventuated, so He then corrected you with new light, new dates that also didn't eventuate you are full of it mad max: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:22am On Jul 01 |
false jw's now liken themselves to bereans bereans studied God's word, they didn't change it to suit false doctrines 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:32am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool false jw mad max Jesus was talking to His apostles in that verse, you false jw's think that the Holy Spirit is just God's power and not a person, note; they will receive power from the Holy Spirit, not; they will receive power from the power oh lost one 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 12:51am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: WARS, FOOD SHORTAGES, PESTILENCES and EARTHQUAKES all began in the year 1914 just how deluded are these lost false jw's 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:26am On Jul 01 |
FxMasterz: At least you now agree after seeing what the scriptures say that there must be those taking the lead and TEACHING others in Christianity {Hebrews 13:7, 17} i've proved to you now that your friends have nothing tangible against God's organization they're just rambling up and down this forum. As for the monopoly of teaching you need to know the duty of those chosen to lead God's organization so you won't be mixing things up! THEIR DUTY God is the Head of all when talking about pure worship so Jehovah give instructions to His Son which he passes to the chosen ones to pass in turn to the congregation that's the meaning of what Paul said: "But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God" 1Corinthians 11:3 The purpose of this arrangement is for God's people throughout the world to have the same line of thought regarding sacred service to God {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} this is what will make the fulfillment of Zephaniah 3:9 work perfectly among God's people. They are in charge of all the congregation arrangements regarding preaching and teaching work assigned to the church of Christ for the work to be carried out thoroughly and that nobody on this planet is left out without being witnessed to regarding the Good News of God's kingdom! Matthew 24:14 But this doesn't mean that they will not make any mistake since they are imperfect humans that's the import of the term "God's only begotten Son" only Jesus is the perfect teacher who can't err but as for humans they will err that's the import of Beroeans studying the scriptures {Act 17:11} to know how the chosen ones among the Jews should operate if you don't know their roles in God's arrangement then you will take offense when imperfection set in on their part. Do you think millions of Jews living in the first century who refuses to believe in Jesus don't have their own reasons? Of course they do but where they missed out is failure to ascertain the duty of the Christ at each point in time once you don't understand his mission and what he's supposed to do at the time of his coming surely you will take offense and kick against him! Matthew 11:6 So the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have their own divine assignment at this time {Matthew 24:45} they are to feed the congregation of Christ and lead them into bearing thorough witness globally as disciples of Christ. Act 1:8 But if you're looking at what the churches of Christendom are setting up like schools, hospitals and so on you may be tempted to start asking why this organization is not doing the same since these things seems good to you yet there is no scriptural references saying the congregation of Christ will build schools and hospitals for the public. So my friend i'm not against you in anyway i just want you to know that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are doing exactly what the scriptures say the faithful slave will do in our time {Matthew 24:45} and it's normal for people who don't know their assignment to pick offense at what they do due to their mistakes which is peculiar to all imperfect servants of God from the beginning until now!  |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44am On Jul 01 |
FxMasterz: Your desperation to prove the organization wrong is what's blurring your senses on this matter, according to Paul those going to heaven must die first and drop their physical bodies that's the import of flesh and blood that can't inherit the kingdom {1Corinthians 15:50} while many of them since the first century have been SLEEPING IN DEATH these ones will be resurrected first when the trumpet sound but the rest who are still alive must complete their earthly mission so that at the time they die they will not sleep in death like the rest who have died before the trumpet rather they will be transformed into spirits immediately they die. I'm a very humble person so leave that matter of humility i'm not like you who jumped into accusing someone falsely simply because he also accused you falsely i don't see myself as your teacher unless those who see that quality in me and i always tell them that they can be better than Maximus if they humbly study the Bible with God's people: Jehovah's Witnesses. Read these comments: SeniorMan715: Questionnaires: Questionnaires: Questionnaires: Questionnaires: Questionnaires: Questionnaires: CJStarz: CJStarz: There are many more like someone called me "General Maximus" another lady called me her "Sugar Daddy" all these people have noticed how cool and calm i am when responding to comments so as regards humility i'm far far better than you but when you're biased then you and i can never ever flow as brothers! |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 3:30am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: very dum lost false jw mad max Christendom is Christianity, i'm glad you false jw's know you are not part of it. Christendom 1. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. 2. an obsolete word for Christianity. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 3:46am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: cannot stop lying lost false jw mad max there is no one at these forums more puffed up that you: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. MaxInDHouse: i'm not like you who jumped into accusing someone falsely simply because he also accused you falsely false jw you jump into falsely accusing people even when they never accused you MaxInDHouse: someone called me "General Maximus" another lady called me her "Sugar Daddy" you mean you are far far more puffed up than him, oh general mussolini: Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense, delusions of grandeur is mental disease 2 Likes |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On Jul 01 |
The purpose of this thread is to help sincere and honest hearted individuals who may like to look critically into the case a church that declared that Jesus began ruling in heaven in the year 1914. In the first century the Jewish nation had the knowledge that the Christ or Messiah will come according to the calculation of their religious leaders and custodians of their laws! So there was this high expectations few years towards the ending of the last century (B.C.E) before Christ era and the beginning of Christ era (C.E) in fact two Judeans back then started acting like rebels gathering men to overthrow the Roman empire claiming they are the Christ the first was Theudas and another after him was Judas both were killed in the process {Act 5:36-36} Jesus of Nazareth later spoke of these two men that they were thieves and plunderers! John 10:8 But what happened to Jesus of Nazareth himself? Did the Jewish nation accepted him as the Messiah? What made the Jews rejected Jesus of Nazareth in the first century? To be continued... |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On Jul 01 |
Jesus was born but the since he wasn't an ordinary child circumstances surrounding his birth later made critics to insult him calling him a bastard born of fornication {John 8:41} in fact these critics claimed that his real father must have been a Samaritan {John 8:48} all these came as a result of the circumstances surrounding his miraculous birth. These and many more were things the Jewish religious leaders back then was telling the Jews in the first century, when he grew up as a carpenter taking up the craft of his foster father most people who knew his beginning had been forgetting the whole story not until he went to meet his cousin John the baptist who was baptizing the Jews in river Jordan in preparation for the coming of the Christ. At first John hesitated to baptize Jesus saying he supposed to be baptized by Jesus and not the other way around {Matthew 3:14-15} but Jesus persisted so John baptized him and while coming out of the water John saw God's Holy Spirit landing on the head of Jesus then God spoke from heaven saying “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.” Matthew 3:17 All these were written by Jesus' friends so no Jewish historian outside Jesus' group of friends wrote anything about his life and ministry so do you think it could be easy for Jews living back then and millions of Jews around the world today to believe that this same Jesus of Nazareth was the promised Messiah? Well his disciples continued penning down all the things Jesus did during his life time and how they continued doing what he commanded them including prophecies regarding our time and their writings is what we know today as the New Testament! |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:13am On Jul 01 |
Jesus said a lot about his future disciples and how sincere individuals can IDENTIFY them. You may wonder why must Jesus emphasize so much on how to identify his disciples later when himself and his first century disciples are no longer around? Well it's because Jesus knew that Satan who is the enemy of God and His people will do whatever it takes to confuse even those having faith in God's promises! Matthew 24:24-25 So what can help sincere individuals to figure out the real disciples of Christ Jesus in our own time? Jesus said: “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Every tree not producing fine fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those men. Matthew 7:15-20 Who are the false prophets of our time? How do we figure out the true disciples of Christ? I will be right back! |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:17am On Jul 01 |
johnw47: Your surname is folly |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21am On Jul 01 |
To analyze what Jesus said @ Matthew 7:15-20 we must first consider the work Jesus assigned to his disciples and what they're supposed to achieve with the work assigned to them. So any religion claiming they're followers of Christ but can't meet up with the goal surely is fake! The preaching and teaching work is what Jesus commissioned his disciples to carry out globally {Matthew 28:19-20 compared to Act 1:8} the purpose of the work is to gather all obedient humans throughout the earth under one umbrella so that they can form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Micah 4:1-3} therefore Jesus' real disciples must be peaceful people anywhere they may be found on this planet {Matthew 10:16} and people throughout the earth should acknowledge that they have love among themselves! John 13:34-35 |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:43am On Jul 01 |
johnw47: Max is not mad He's my brother And I love him You're the ones who are making the thread stupid cos you act so stupid If I say the House I live is in stupid, is it the builder that is stupid or how people behave? If I say NL is stupid, am I blaming Seun Osewa? Folly is your surname |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 8:48am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: oh duh very dum one, it's better than yours which is fool lost false jw aemmy i see you are still posting in mad max's what you call stupid thread 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:51am On Jul 01 |
johnw47: This is an attempt by you people to malign God's people and it's something I wish he'll see and will act My own threads are equally stupid threads where u people have come to do nonsense You all combined cannot stand Maxindhouse in an intelligible argument Worst you can do is act like hyenas, peddling lies and cracking pots You have never dropped anything intelligent to build anyone's faith on Nairaland Maxindhouse is my brother as long as he remains faithful to Jehovah. This thread is stupid cos of people like you |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 8:58am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: really, do you challenge be to prove it Aemmyjah: He's my brother we are the ones who have shown 607bce and 1914ce to be wrong of course you frauds cannot admit it Aemmyjah: If I say the House I live is in stupid, is it the builder that is stupid or how people behave? oh duh dum dum, if you say the house you live in is stupid, i say you are mad, a house can only be a house if you say nl is stupid a mad man like you would be blaming Christians oh duh dum dum, fool is your surname 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:08am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: lost false jw mad max you false jw's are so dym, calling Christians; satanist and bloody fool etc. etc. etc. is not being peaceful you false jw's are deluded and lie all over the place: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:17am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: Do not answer the stupid one according to his foolishness, So that you do not put yourself on his level Proverbs 26:4
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| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:20am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: lost false jw aemmy your crying post most everyone but you deluded false jw's yourself, know without a doubt that you are not God's people Mat_23:15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you travel around on sea and land to make one proselyte; and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:30am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: false jw mad max u of course r always the liar, no one at these forums is on the low intelligence level as you lost ones: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. what you people know is sewer mouth name calling and wrongly using God's word 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 9:40am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: lost false jw aemmy of course you fakes can never stop lying: Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. in showing up the lies of you frauds, this below will further help to build others faith on nairaland: from jwfacts dot com 1914 : Failed Watchtower Prophecy One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the “start” of the conclusion of this system of things. Rather, Watchtower falsely predicted 1914 to be the “end” of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the earthly paradise. It is important to know what Watchtower preached would happen in the years leading up to and including 1914, and compare this with what it now claims was said. What Watchtower said prior to 1914 "The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239 "But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226 What Watchtower claims it said prior to 1914 "The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5 "Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8 The contradictory statements above help identify two critical facts: 1. Watchtower falsely predicted this system would end in 1914 2. Watchtower is not entirely honest about its history to be continued 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 10:21am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: lost false jw aemmy 1. mad max said while bragging about his days in military intelligence that he can defeat six fully armed combatants single handed 2. he said for all here to read; that his wife loves to play with his penis false jw mad max is certifiably mad but of course you frauds support each other in your lies and your paranoia etc. and even in your blaspheming the Holy Spirit when i say you guys are lost i of course am serious: Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. false jw mad max also teaches that Jehovah isn't all knowing, he teaches that Jehovah isn't Almighty, and he teaches that Jesus is a deceiver you false jw aemmy of course support him and say he is not mad, Christians can see that he is much more than just mad 2 Likes |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by FxMasterz: 11:31am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: Paul said "We shall not all sleep." End of story. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by johnw47: 11:32am On Jul 01 |
Aemmyjah: lost false jw aemmy your jehovah doesn't see, i believe it he also isn't all knowing or Almighty according to mad max Aemmyjah: Worst you can do is act like hyenas, peddling lies and cracking pots quote some of my lies oh false accuser like the devil: Rev_12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by FxMasterz: 11:39am On Jul 01 |
MaxInDHouse: I'm a leader, and I teach. If you don't understand something, ask questions. I too receive teachings as well. So, stop using your understanding of my position to judge what I'm saying. Ask for clarifications instead. The Bible makes us know that Believers should converge together under a group of leaders to fellowship together and hear the word of God. The Bible also makes us understand that independent personal walk with God with constant revelation of scripture is important for spiritual growth. The teachings of leaders is not a replacement for personal revelation. Revelation is the only way through which the Father communicates with His children. This revelation is in two modes. Through the elders to all the children. And to each child personally. Even earthly fathers too communicate this way. A child that has no revelation in the Kingdom is a bastard. 1 Like |
| Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:50am On Jul 01 |
FxMasterz:Not sleep where? Well in our language the word "SLEEP" means death until resurrection as the dead person is unconscious until he is awaken from sleep {John 11:11-14} so when Paul said all BORN AGAIN will not SLEEP he is talking about the time when Jesus has started ruling in heaven at that time any BORN AGAIN Christian will no longer remain unconscious in death rather they will be transformed immediately at their last breath. That's what he meant all BORN AGAIN Christians must drop the flesh and blood they carry about now which is their fleshy bodies and that's when they die! |
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