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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:30pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola:Lol...there's really no need for the gymnastics about that, the couple did the smart and expedient thing for them and their family. Maybe na the agenda you don dey cook dey make dem fear begin quote hadiths wey no follow road |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Sportsweb: 4:37pm On Jul 05 |
Why Una de compare WW1 Britain vs Modern Nigeria? What of Modern Britain vs Modern Nigeria? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 4:40pm On Jul 05 |
BlueRayDick:The problem with you and him is that once you're cornered you begin to shift goalposts. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:46pm On Jul 05 |
Amoto94: sheik amoto it is fine to remember the hadith and Quran and act on them when it is time to kill kafirs who disrespect the Prophet, it is fine to remember the hadith and Quran when it is time to take a second wife but in cases of false witness, it is up to personal discretion that is called laws for thee but not for me and that is the hall mark of religious conservatism [for christians, muslims, etal] double standards a different standard for others and a different standard for myself - because unlike the other i am a true believer and Allah will understand my actions there are numerous reports of republicans who make noise about abortion and banning it getting abortions for themselves. religious posturing. this is the same thing. rigidity when it involves others, flexibility when it suits myself. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:48pm On Jul 05 |
Amoto94: Where is the goalpost shifting here? GloriouGbola called out the fact that the lady lying in court is actually a sin which the clerics are willing to overlook. Then u said there's nothing wrong in refusing to give testimony. But the news report said the wife "denied the allegations". Like she literally lied under oath despite her husband's and her own admission of the occurrence of domestic violence. U are the one who is actually twisting and turning here bro. U have not brought to the fore a scriptural backing that says one is allowed to lie while swearing in the name of God. That's where we are 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by superintendents(m): 4:53pm On Jul 05 |
My friends... |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:57pm On Jul 05 |
BlueRayDick: during obj admin, when el rufai was meant to be sworn in - he alleged that two senators [i think maina and mantu] demanded a bribe. el rufai came before senate and swore with a Quran on this. he challenged them to do the same. they immediately backed out saying they did not have ablution. maybe they needed to read the hadith being bandied around |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 5:08pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola:I have read a narration whereby if you don't want to have someone punished there's no need to testify when asked of it but you don't know this narration. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 5:16pm On Jul 05 |
Amoto94:Hadith or Quran? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:18pm On Jul 05 |
iamoyindamola: I am waiting for Oasisx. You know oasis prefered answer is Hadiths are not authentic |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 5:21pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola:Normally they shouldn’t be 100% authentic since they are coming from different people |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 5:27pm On Jul 05 |
liveLongNprospa:ask me this time next year |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by islamics(m): 5:45pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola:No doubt cherry picking/hypocrisy dey but it doesn't change wetin dey inside the book. The book already told us that some pple cherry pick and it warns against it. Theflint1: Was already reconciled? They might have decided to reconcile but the court was formalizing everything. My replying to was based on his question asking if giving false oath is allowed? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by islamics(m): 5:54pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: Make I just borrow Sheik talk kawai, "we know what we are doing". First bolded: This your example no follow as they did f*CK up in stealing funds and Islam has a rule on that. Second bolded: they are also called out for their lies perhaps you might not be aware. Pantami was called out for his double standard during GEJ and Buhari regime. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by islamics(m): 6:01pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: I would like to have this discussion with sheikh one day. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 6:05pm On Jul 05 |
islamics: https://www.al-islam.org/greater-sins-volume-2-sayyid-abdul-husayn-dastghaib-shirazi/nineteenth-greater-sin-false-testimony https://erfan.ir/english/31423.html In my younger days I used to read the Qur'an back to back. The Qur'an and Hadith are full of curses and warnings for bearing false witness. It is one of the major sins. So much so that the Prophet said woe to he who tells lies to make people laugh! Woe to him, woe to him! That is how seriously Islam takes lying - to the extent that making jokes is bad. But all of a sudden you are twisting yourself into pretzels trying to make excuses for lying. Yes, the Qur'an has a lot to say about stealing public funds. I read about a guy who was so afraid of Allah's wrath that he had two lamps one for doing the work of the city and one for his own personal work. So he swapped these while working at night. But our devout politicians from Atiku to those who brought penal code sharia to Nigeria and were ready to have people stoned for adultery have no problem stealing the commonwealth. I am sure they too will fish out some obscure Hadith. After all we were told the other day that you are not supposed to criticise leaders in public but in private as good Muslims. You cannot carry to toga of a devout pious Muslim and then start double talking when it suits you. Remember what the Qur'an says about the hypocrites. They also feature alot in the Qur'an and Hadith. And how on the day of judgment their spines will turn to a single bone and they will be unable to prostrate with the believers 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 6:10pm On Jul 05 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 6:11pm On Jul 05 |
islamics:The court wasn't in session to formalize their reconciliation though, they were there to adjudicate on a crime and by them choosing to lie they made it impossible for the court to reach the truth of the matter. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 6:29pm On Jul 05 |
No be small matter. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by islamics(m): 6:55pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: Nobody is arguing whether lying/giving false oath is bad. We all know the gravity of it. What I am saying is that there are places where it is allowed to achieve a greater good based on scholars analogy. We can read the Quran/Hadith page by page and get some literal meaning but that doesn't negate the facts that there are pple who devoted their time to learn the contextual meaning of the text and are able to draw analogy; these are the pple who would be better grounded than us with a surface meaning. At least, I know there is Ijma and there is Qiyas. Literally, eating dead meat is Haram but you would agree that one is allowed to eat it in case of necessity and the necessity has been defined. Here, lying/slander/false oath is Haram but exception has been made if it involve reconciliation. We don't make the rule but the rule has been made with where there are exception. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:07pm On Jul 05 |
islamics:Does that mean Islam promotes beating up women If no, what he did was wrong and the woman lied on his behalf I understand there are some factors that contributed to her lies but if this was taken to the sharia court The woman will still be punished even after the assault Do you agree? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:09pm On Jul 05 |
islamics: The greater good would have been for Jarus to enjoy his happy marriage with his wife of 14 years and continue building. Rather he brought in a a second wife, which would have changed the equation form a partnership to a competition and a happy home to a jealous battleground. The greater good did not count in this case, but the Islamic rights of a man The greater good would have been to laugh off the wife's pathetic attempts at jazz. Amina wetin dey happen na, on top wife no 2?e no hard like that. Instead a choice was made to divorce her and take away her children, who would then be reared by an indifferent and likely hostile stepmother? The greater good was passed over for shirk But now when Jarus is facing possible criminal liability, the greater good comes into play and haram behavior is justified. Of the men by the men for the men. We thank God for feminist coven sha. It is those witches and bitches that came through for their fellow woman. Otherwise by now madam would be back in ilorin middle aged woman in her family house being told to go and beg her husband and his new wife for forgiveness. This kind of thing can make a person commit suicide. They steal your man, your children, everything you put yourselr in for the past 14 years, all the while piously quoting the Qur'an at you. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 7:25pm On Jul 05 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 8:01pm On Jul 05 |
seankafor:I don't think she's that beautiful. I saw the video from the link. However, don't let filters deceive you, bro. She is not as beautiful as she appears in the video. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:22pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: .....I have been resisting the urge but since you won't let me breathe, let me use hadiths to counter you and justify the harmless, very necessary lie she told. Humaid b. ‘Abd al-Rahman b. ‘Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of ‘Uqba b. Abu Mu’ait said she heard Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) saying: ....another source. Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: Cc Islamics Iamoyindamola 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:25pm On Jul 05 |
OasisX: OasisX: Please back it with a Quranic verse See oasis packaging bro code Habibi wife - Oasis I heard my husband is out with a side chick. Oasis lying to prevent the wife from fighting the husband - It's a lie! I swear your husband is at work in the office! Walahi! 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:27pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: .......I don drop hadiths, manage am like that or you too don't believe in hadiths again?! LOL! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:36pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: .....lying to protect fornication/adultery is evildoing and shouldn't be condoned bro. I'll rather avoid the situation than swearing it. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:39pm On Jul 05 |
OasisX: “It is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people.” (Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1938) your own quote chief |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 8:44pm On Jul 05 |
GloriousGbola: ......not my quote but hadith and you wrongly understand it bro. In that situation you ain't telling lie to bring peace but calamity, cos if the wife later finds out nko?! LOL! Lie to bring peace not calamity bruhhhhhh!!! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:49pm On Jul 05 |
OasisX: you no sabi calamity when madam is being traded out for a newer model. you no see calamity when madam collect small chewing stick cane. you no see calamity when madam is served with divorce papers . you see calamity when bros J dey face criminal charges. confam bro code. tomorrow you go drop one hadith about the rights of women in Islam anyway if madam j behave well, she go get her own 70 male sex doll in al jannah its all good . 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 8:55pm On Jul 05 |
How low can Sophia go on Davido
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