tctrills:

Yes he started it and that was the right thing to do. But your man chose to leave weapons and Americans behind and that was the entire tragedy.
It was the biggest failure of the US gov since Vietnam.
He had an entire year to move out the weapons and Americans citizens from Afghanistan or simply to renegotiate the terms Trump agreed to.
Biden is just an idiot nothing more, nothing less.

They left those weapons in the hands of afghan soldiers thinking they could defend Afghanistan, you should blame afghan president ashraf ghani for being the first person to run away and all his soldiers surrendered to Taliban without any resistance.

Alliswell248:


Debate is a personal choice......

Tell us how your candidate got 100 percent votes in his agulu ward. Does it mean the reps of PDP and apc equally voted for him.


Common sense is indeed scarce for the average obidafts.

Wailers.

Does apc exist in many Eastern states? we know apc was most south west Ad and buhari's northern Cpc.

As for pdp it's possible since Peter Obi was in pdp up until the primaries so he had control over his pdp ward even after moving to Labour party. They all collapsed structure for him.

I'm sure we saw how sdp was collapsing structure for apc in some south west states so its nothing new.

God1000:
They left those weapons in the hands of afghan soldiers thinking they could defend Afghanistan, you should blame afghan president ashraf ghani for being the first person to run away and all his soldiers surrendered to Taliban without any resistance.

Yes, you should blame the Afghan president and definitely the US president for leaving their arms in the hands of a useless army.
And hope you know that much of those weapons were not even with the Afghan army, they were in storage gathering dust.
It's just a shame.
Biden's stupidity led to the deaths of 13 service men and women.
That guy is a disaster.

DUNDEEmoderatos:

Mr man debate is not compulsory and it is not any part of the law in Nigeria or America.

yes but if the people want it they will have it. Even in the primaries there are many debates b4 u become the party candidate not like in Nigeria where any riff-raff will spray money and get picked.

So you now agree the foremost American Daily NY times and the mouth piece of the liberals whose links text is quoted is fake news.

Krankhead:
STOP SPEADUNG FAKE NEWS . I live and vote in America. Biden never said that

If the election is handled by INEC, I swear he won't lose the election, but he should be ready to pay heavily for it





Biko ndi married women, try dey satisfy Ur husband at home, Na Ur life you give to Christ no be Kpekus

God1000:
The president’s conversation is the first indication that he is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta on Thursday.



https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-withdraw-election-debate.html#commentsContainer

Step down immediately if you can't convince voter's, now we can see what true democracy is everything is transparent in America you have to convince voter's to get their votes unlike here in Nigeria voters have no power, the political corrupt elites decide who will become president and we say we practice democracy it's terrible here

This one don already loss

Caramia2020:
In my country, I haven't seen any candidates that step down no matter the health challenge or any other issues.

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I'm pretty sure your country name is Nig my countiri lol

DaddyCoool:


Mumu

Things Biden said at the debate that make no sense to the likes of you, are Masonic lingos. Those who know, understand perfectly wot he meant. Dey play.

NwaNimo1:
Sabo........He's helping Trump win!

You this guy sha
🤣😂🤣😂

tctrills:

Yes, you should blame the Afghan president and definitely the US president for leaving their arms in the hands of a useless army.
And hope you know that much of those weapons were not even with the Afghan army, they were in storage gathering dust.
It's just a shame.
Biden's stupidity led to the deaths of 13 service men and women.
That guy is a disaster.

Wot should Biden have done separately? The service men killed in Kabul blast were not killed by Taliban, they were killed by ISIS-K. How was Biden to know ISIS-K will strike?
The weapons Biden left behind belong to Afghanistan. Procured with Afghan money. So, should they have taken it along with them? Or wot rubbish are u people saying sef?

Fake news!!
Uncle Joe has not discussed withdrawing from the race. Matter-of-facts he went out on campaign trail right after that debate doubling down on his intention to continue to lead the American people

Zxcvbnmghtr:

As much as I don't like Don Trump . . .but this sticker right here is very apt !

Krismas:
Wot should Biden have done separately? The service men killed in Kabul blast were not killed by Taliban, they were killed by ISIS-K. How was Biden to know ISIS-K will strike?
The weapons Biden left behind belong to Afghanistan. Procured with Afghan money . So, should they have taken it along with them? Or wot rubbish are u people saying sef?

So you got many things wrong as you usually do.
If American citizens were evicted in an orderly form and not in a chaotic manner, there wouldn't have been any dead. They had a whole year to evacuate people but they waited until Kabul fell and it became impossible to safely move away their people.
Again, does it even make sense that you leave your weapons with the Afghan army when your intelligence told you that they could not withstand the Taliban? Again you got it all wrong. Much of the weapon were not even handed over to the Afghan army. Many of the weapons were in storage.
And yes, they should have taken their weapons with them and not left it with a government that in your own words was Procured with Afghan money. That was the only sensible thing to do but as we both know, Biden had long lost his sense.

Krismas:
Things Biden said at the debate that make no sense to the likes of you, are Masonic lingos. Those who know, understand perfectly wot he meant. Dey play.

Same way you said those who took covid vaccine will all be dead in 2 years.
You think we have forgotten??

God1000:
I think the issue for voters is not whether he is fit to withstand the rigors of the campaign. The issue is whether he can be an effective President for the next term given the reality of biology we all have to accept.

He has had a long successful political career, but at 81, he needs to step down for Kamala Harris.

Donald trump should withdraw from the race as well, he's 78, an unhinged old man, a convicted felon that tells a lot of lies.

Trump should withdraw because he's 78 but you voted for ancestor who's over 90 to rule over you. Hypocritical element that's what you're

God1000:
I think the issue for voters is not whether he is fit to withstand the rigors of the campaign. The issue is whether he can be an effective President for the next term given the reality of biology we all have to accept.

He has had a long successful political career, but at 81, he needs to step down for Kamala Harris.

Donald trump should withdraw from the race as well, he's 78, an unhinged old man, a convicted felon that tells a lot of lies.

walk over for trump

tctrills:

So you got many things wrong as you usually do.
If American citizens were evicted in an orderly form and not in a chaotic manner, there wouldn't have been any dead. They had a whole year to evacuate people but they waited until Kabul fell and it became impossible to safely move away their people.
Again, does it even make sense that you leave your weapons with the Afghan army when your intelligence told you that they could not withstand the Taliban? Again you got it all wrong. Much of the weapon were not even handed over to the Afghan army. Many of the weapons were in storage.
And yes, they should have taken their weapons with them and not left it with a government that in your own words was Procured with Afghan money. That was the only sensible thing to do but as we both know, Biden had long lost his sense.

Kabul fell OVERNIGHT
Then who told you America knew the Afghan army couldn’t hold off the Taliban?
Also, there was a deal with the Taliban for safe passage for all to be evacuated and Taliban honored the deal. ISIS-K on the other hand, is no friends with Taliban or America. Four of their members got in the queue like they were evacuating, and detonated themselves killing many peeps, including 13 American troops. How do a year long evacuation prevent that?
Lastly, those equipment were bought with Afghan money. It was not a gift to Afghan. It was purchased. America has no right to take them away. Also America has no right to sit on Afghan money frozen in their banks currently.

DaddyCoool:


Same way you said those who took covid vaccine will all be dead in 2 years.
You think we have forgotten??

Many many have fulfilled my prophecy since.
And if u took the vac yourself, the discussion now should be how you will make heaven

Krismas:
Kabul fell OVERNIGHT
Then who told you America knew the Afghan army couldn’t hold off the Taliban?
Also, there was a deal with the Taliban for safe passage for all to be evacuated and Taliban honored the deal. ISIS-K on the other hand, is no friends with Taliban or America. Four of their members got in the queue like they were evacuating, and detonated themselves killing many peeps, including 13 American troops. How do a year long evacuation prevent that?
Lastly, those equipment were bought with Afghan money. It was not a gift to Afghan. It was purchased. America has no right to take them away. Also America has no right to sit on Afghan money frozen in their banks currently.

oga Kabul did not fall overnight. Who told you that? In fact, Biben was advised by his security chiefs more than a month before the fall of Kabul. Biden had all the security briefings he could have. Please get your facts right. If you don't know, go back and watch the clips of the state and house debriefing the security chiefs. Every one of them said Biden was aware of a potential fall of Kabul.

Now if you began your evacuation on time, you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of people around the airport thereby making it impossible to secure. Please watch the debriefing of the security chiefs before making your arguments. Biko

Below is a link from the New York Times.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/us/politics/afghanistan-biden-administration.html#:~:text=Intelligence%20Warned%20of%20Afghan%20Military,assessments%20painted%20a%20grimmer%20picture.
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Krismas:
Many many have fulfilled my prophecy since.
And if u took the vac yourself, the discussion now should be how you will make heaven

Everyone around me took the vaccine. Not a single person died - even of malaria! Heaven? But you said two years. Or maybe Freemasons extended the time

DaddyCoool:


Everyone around me took the vaccine. Not a single person died - even of malaria! Heaven? But you said two years. Or maybe Freemasons extended the time

You be like Comedian Heather McDonald who smugly bragged about all the vaccines she's taken—including three Covid "vaccines"—then collapses on stage seconds later, fracturing her skull.

The audience laughs, believing it to be part of her act. only It wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3NX0IFyvqk


honestly cant believe ur naivety

tctrills:

oga Kabul did not fall overnight. Who told you that? In fact, Biben was advised by his security chiefs more than a month before the fall of Kabul. Biden had all the security briefings he could have. Please get your facts right. If you don't know, go back and watch the clips of the state and house debriefing the security chiefs. Every one of them said Biden was aware of a potential fall of Kabul.

Now if you began your evacuation on time, you wouldn't have hundreds of thousands of people around the airport thereby making it impossible to secure. Please watch the debriefing of the security chiefs before making your arguments. Biko

Below is a link from the New York Times.
[url]https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/17/us/politics/afghanistan-biden-administration.html#:~:text=Intelligence%20Warned%20of%20Afghan%20Military,assessments%20painted%20a%20grimmer%20picture.
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amazing.
ur link is not relevant and its even tellingly me to sign up or log in b4 i can read?
The important facts of this matter are:
1. America had a deal with Taliban for safe evacuations. And the Taliban kept their end of the bargain
2. Attack America suffered from, came from ISIS-K, who are equally deadly enemies of the Taliban
3. American troop casualties were very high, than what was reported in the MSM. So delaying withdrawal is effectively killing far more troops
4. the airport bombings was suicide bombing. which is difficult to defend against, whether you spaceout the evacuation

Krismas:


You be like Comedian Heather McDonald who smugly bragged about all the vaccines she's taken—including three Covid "vaccines"—then collapses on stage seconds later, fracturing her skull.

The audience laughs, believing it to be part of her act. only It wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3NX0IFyvqk


honestly cant believe ur naivety

You said theyd all DIE in 2 years. Almost ALL major public personalities and politician's took it how many collapsed on stage??

Krismas:
amazing.
ur link is not relevant and its even tellingly me to sign up or log in b4 i can read?
The important facts of this matter are:
1. America had a deal with Taliban for safe evacuations. And the Taliban kept their end of the bargain
2. Attack America suffered from, came from ISIS-K, who are equally deadly enemies of the Taliban
3. American troop casualties were very high, than what was reported in the MSM. So delaying withdrawal is effectively killing far more troops
4. the airport bombings was suicide bombing. which is difficult to defend against, whether you spaceout the evacuation

My link makes it super clear that Biden was warned. If he acted on time, no one would have died.
You claimed Kabul fell over night. My link shows that it is a lie.
Here are other links to educate you on the issue.

Yes, America had a deal with the Taliban but the Taliban were not the only danger and Biden knew it. The sudden unplanned pullout was all the other groups needed to strike. That you don't get this is incredible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/20/austin-miller-afghanistan-biden-house-investigation/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1277067

https://time.com/6269392/white-house-afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-trump/

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-joe-biden-kabul-taliban-air-force-e9fb454b7e9bebac58477e13d603fc06

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/us/politics/milley-senate-hearing-afghanistan.html

These are all credible sources. Go through them then we can have this discussion.

DaddyCoool:


You said theyd all DIE in 2 years. Almost ALL major public personalities and politician's took it how many collapsed on stage??

major public personalities and politicians took WHAT? How do u know politicians didn't take mere vitamin C?
U, worry about wot u took

tctrills:

My link makes it super clear that Biden was warned. If he acted on time, no one would have died.
You claimed Kabul fell over night. My link shows that it is a lie.
Here are other links to educate you on the issue.

Yes, America had a deal with the Taliban but the Taliban were not the only danger and Biden knew it. The sudden unplanned pullout was all the other groups needed to strike. That you don't get this is incredible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/05/20/austin-miller-afghanistan-biden-house-investigation/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1277067

https://time.com/6269392/white-house-afghanistan-withdrawal-biden-trump/

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-joe-biden-kabul-taliban-air-force-e9fb454b7e9bebac58477e13d603fc06

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/us/politics/milley-senate-hearing-afghanistan.html

These are all credible sources. Go through them then we can have this discussion.

I checked only 2 of the links. the idea about dem is towing the same false narrative that America had any control or success over the Taliban. America was losing. running away was the only sensible thing to do. so, enough of all these links talking backwards.
It was Trump who fixed May 1, 2021 as withdrawal date with the Taliban, long before Biden became president. It was not until April 2021 that Biden agreed to go with the Trump date. Only, Biden started the evacuation in September. so, i really don't know wot u people are talking about?
The idea that Biden went against his own generals can only be believed by mumus. its utter nonsense. is it not same newyork times that reported Hamas committed widespread rape in kubutz Beri, which was vehemently denied by the residents of the place? wots so credible about newyork times?

Krismas:
I checked only 2 of the links. the idea about dem is towing the same false narrative that America had any control or success over the Taliban. America was losing. running away was the only sensible thing to do. so, enough of all these links talking backwards.
It was Trump who fixed May 1, 2021 as withdrawal date with the Taliban, long before Biden became president. It was not until April 2021 that Biden agreed to go with the Trump date. Only, Biden started the evacuation in September. so, i really don't know wot u people are talking about?
The idea that Biden went against his own generals can only be believed by mumus. its utter nonsense. is it not same newyork times that reported Hamas committed widespread rape in kubutz Beri, which was vehemently denied by the residents of the place? wots so credible about newyork times?

My guy, if Biden was not prepared for an orderly evacuation, why did he decide to go with Trump's date? I am sure you never asked yourself this simple question.
Oga, I only gave you sources from the left that is very Biden friendly and you are yet to produce one good link to back your point.
I would be a mumu to believe you a nobody on Nairaland and ignore credible sources. Especially when you have no source to point to. You are clearly saying things you don't know. Please go through the remaining links and learn

Krismas:
I checked only 2 of the links. the idea about dem is towing the same false narrative that America had any control or success over the Taliban. America was losing. running away was the only sensible thing to do. so, enough of all these links talking backwards.
It was Trump who fixed May 1, 2021 as withdrawal date with the Taliban, long before Biden became president. It was not until April 2021 that Biden agreed to go with the Trump date. Only, Biden started the evacuation in September. so, i really don't know wot u people are talking about?
The idea that Biden went against his own generals can only be believed by mumus. its utter nonsense. is it not same newyork times that reported Hamas committed widespread rape in kubutz Beri, which was vehemently denied by the residents of the place? wots so credible about newyork times?

I have already answered you in the above post but here is a video of Biden's top general confessing that he warned the idiot about Afghan.
https://youtu.be/vEE236RbV4o?si=APNqrbjZxEZSUmZP
Now you have it on video do you still deny?
Ps, the general is still serving in Biden's government.

tctrills:

My guy, if Biden was not prepared for an orderly evacuation, why did he decide to go with Trump's date? I am sure you never asked yourself this simple question.
Oga, I only gave you sources from the left that is very Biden friendly and you are yet to produce one good link to back your point.
I would be a mumu to believe you a nobody on Nairaland and ignore credible sources. Especially when you have no source to point to. You are clearly saying things you don't know. Please go through the remaining links and learn

u have nothing to teach me, with due respect . likes of u believe inordinately in MSM even when they are leading u astray.
which link will i give, u wont call conspiracy theory?
the cornerstone of the matter was that america was badly losing in afghanistan. just like israel is losing in gaza.
prolonging stay, would only have made it worse.
As Biden summarized it, THERE IS NO BETTER TIME TO LEAVE
meaning, even if the withdrawal took place EXACTLY the date, u are now proposing, u would still be the first to condemn the same withdrawal date as premature. Thats how bad american military position was

tctrills:

I have already answered you in the above post but here is a video of Biden's top general confessing that he warned the idiot about Afghan.
https://youtu.be/vEE236RbV4o?si=APNqrbjZxEZSUmZP
Now you have it on video do you still deny?
Ps, the general is still serving in Biden's government.

LOL
U mean u couldnt understand wot u just watched?
alright, here we go:
1. Biden emphatically say he was not advised not to withdraw
2. General Mark Milley say he wanted some troops like 35k left behind . wen asked if he advised such to the president, he say, he can't disclose wot he advised president. but PERSONALY he would have wanted 35k to remain to assist afghan military.
3. General Mark Milley say American intelligence didn't see the sudden collapse of the afghan military. i told u, u didn't believe, the general told, u still don't believe?

Long story short. the man is just LYING
Obama sent 250k troops to afghanistan. if that didn't help, is it 35k that will help?