OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Ronu miscreants want to takeover UK. They don't want to respect their host anymore. Time for the UK government to respond.

The UK is our home from home..



In OasisX voice sha, We all know what we are doing

izzou:


You are asking HOW?

A woman was charged for murder because her boyfriend killed the child while she was at home and sleeping.

It was on FP weeks back.

If it was in the West, Davido will be liable

Kimbeast:

Was Davido at home? You all are bringing unrelated instances. Here's a similar case that happened here and no one was held liable.

https://people.com/parents/shaquil-barrett-daughter-dead-drowning-pool

izzou:


Hmmmm

You don win!

izzou:


The UK is our home from home..



In OasisX voice sha, We all know what we are doing

izzou:


Hmmmm

You don win!

Kimbeast:

Here's a better example to use. Buccaneers linebacker Shaq two years old daughter drowned similar to davido In their swimming pool and it was ruled out as an accident with no one charged.

https://people.com/parents/shaquil-barrett-daughter-dead-drowning-pool/

Let's assume you left your child with your mother/sister/Maid ( something you have done numerous times) and went off to work or an occasion only to return and the child choked or fell and died does that make you a bad parent and a bad father responsible for his death? That's basically what you are doing with Davido. He left his child in the hands of 8 maids whose sole job is to take care of his child and they failed at it. If you take your toddler to day care and something tragic happens who will be held responsible. The daycare or the parents?

iamoyindamola:

Islam doesn’t favor the female gender at all, over and over it happened and they are at the receiving end

If indeed it is, the religion would not have given men much responsibilities/task. Because, in an ideal settings, irrespective of the woman status, her care/security/all is the responsibility of the man. Building of the society is also the responsibility of the men. It is the same that endanger themselves to certain risk.
The 'men' religion honour women in various ways, for instance, the men who you claim has the religion have their paradise lying under the feet of a woman (the mother), the woman is entitled to inheritance (even after she is married out) baring the facts that she is to be provided for by her husband (men), the woman as a mother is entitled to more respect than the father (men). Again, even when divorced, she is to be provided for and not thrown out, for a certain period of time depending on the scenario and she can be welcomed back again depending on the type of divorce/case.

islamics:


Morning Sir. This first bolded is not true ooo. Perhaps you should read/remember the state of women during the Jahiliyah period and see how Islam gave them honour. Haba! I don't think any honour can supercede that one gaskiya.

The thing is, you can't ascribe how pple treat female to be Islam. That, some pple are treating female oppresingly doesn't mean na so Islam specify. Islam is not about majority, it already have it own take even if na few pple or none dey do am.

The below was my reply to someone mentioning Islam to be by the men, of the men for the men:



That some people are treating female bad shouldn't be ascribe to Islam abeg, rather we should attribute it to the person's shortcomings even if the person might want to hide under the name of Islam cos most pple always look for cover in their misdoings.

izzou:


The UK is our home from home..



In OasisX voice sha, We all know what we are doing

islamics:


Morning Sir. This first bolded is not true ooo. Perhaps you should read/remember the state of women during the Jahiliyah period and see how Islam gave them honour. Haba! I don't think any honour can supercede that one gaskiya.

The thing is, you can't ascribe how pple treat female to be Islam. That, some pple are treating female oppresingly doesn't mean na so Islam specify. Islam is not about majority, it already have it own take even if na few pple or none dey do am.

The below was my reply to someone mentioning Islam to be by the men, of the men for the men:



That some people are treating female bad shouldn't be ascribe to Islam abeg, rather we should attribute it to the person's shortcomings even if the person might want to hide under the name of Islam cos most pple always look for cover in their misdoings.

iamoyindamola:

My point is from Islam point of view
It’s about the men, women don’t have say of how to be treated or their opinions matter

islamics:

Okay Sir.

But if you mean the actual Islamic take on women is your point of question, then it's like, you mean they were to be asked when the rules were made, which one sweet you and which one no sweet you make we adjust?

GloriousGbola:


The arguments about how Islam supports women actually have k leg. . Arabs were burying their baby daughters alive. This was stopped due to Islam. But no one else was burying their baby daughters alive. This was limited solely to Arabs. So you can only argue that Islam made one change to stop a cruel culture that was limited to Arabs and not practised by anyone else.

GloriousGbola:


Islam does not treat women badly but the wife has no choice in the matter when her husband decides to marry another wife. She is expected to bear it because it is the man's right. On a woman's wedding day supposed to be the happiest day in her life, her father and imams are casually telling her husband he has the right to marry more wives if he so wishes.

Islam does not treat women badly but a devout muslim was ready to divorce his wife and sieze the children (I am not sure this is even legal in shariah) and he was obviously backed by multiple imams

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. You can quote different hadiths about how Islam gives women rights or you can ask us about what we see with our own eyes.

islamics:

Okay Sir.

But if you mean the actual Islamic take on women is your point of question, then it's like, you mean they were to be asked when the rules were made, which one sweet you and which one no sweet you make we adjust?

BlueRayDick:




Old things have passed away doc . Paul was once Saul

iamoyindamola:

I didn't want to use Afghanistan or those nistan countries as example of how their women are treated
Was it not recently Saudi, Qatar and UAE allowed their women into the stadium
I read Saudi doesn't allow their women drive until recently and these people will always back it with hadiths
Those nistan countries worse, they rape, mutilate and kill their women if she go against their wish
All these were claimed to be part of hadiths

GloriousGbola:


https://www.channelstv.com/2023/03/24/chrisland-school-staff-vendor-to-face-charges-for-students-death/
the school principal, a teacher and the owner of the vending machine are in jail awaiting trial over a child's electrocution.

i will ask you a simple question. if ifeanyi had died in this manner in a school swimming pool, who would be liable?

you would be calling for the head of the school proprietor

Davido built a swimming pool in his house and did not put in place measures to child proof it. he hired an inexperienced village girl as a child minder. his house is not so much a home as a frat house

he is out of the home most of the time.

you can always search parental liablity child death if you want more clarity

if imade had been staying on and off with davido , it is the same way she would have stumbled into that pool

major accidents NEVER happen in isolation. they are ALWAYs preceded by minor incidents. but negligent individuals fail to read the signs and act accordingly. what makes it worse is that this has happened before, when dbanj child died in the same manner. you would expect a parent with sense to have learned from this and put all precautions in place if a swimming pool is a must . note the emphasis on parent with sense.

if i wanted to be extra mean, i would have said ifeanyi was an inconvenience for him. what stops me from carrying my pikin with me on a social visit? the visit to the ooni was social.

BlueRayDick:


What u see with people chiding Sophia’s valid argument is just what Nigerians do when their fave is involved in a matter ; they will just decide to disregard logic and go with sentiment .

Anybody who unfamiliar with our hypocrisy would think Sophia was pulling a Tonto Dike vs Churchill on Davido. Tonto literally changed the name of their child , denied the man access to the child , goes to the child’s school on Father’s Day dressed in male attire , etc

On the contrary it was Davido right from the child’s infancy that tried stealing the child from the mother . He almost succeeded in shipping the child out of the country if not for Dele Momodu’s intervention. How do u expect that same woman to trust u with the custody of the same child?

It is only logical for her lawyers to argue that a toddler in ur care was deceased and that’s a ground for u not to be granted custody .

But Nigerians with sentiments think it is a blow below the belt .

GloriousGbola:


Male guardianship in Saudi Arabia

https://equalitynow.org/ending_male_guardianship_in_saudi_arabia/

There was a case I read where a woman wanted to travel abroad and her underage son was the one signing the papers

Maybe Oasisx can shed more light on this.

GloriousGbola:


Quite literally she can drop imade at Davidos house, come back to pick her and be barred from entering the house. And she will not be able to do anything about it as a naija matter.

BlueRayDick:


What u see with people chiding Sophia’s valid argument is just what Nigerians do when their fave is involved in a matter ; they will just decide to disregard logic and go with sentiment .

Anybody who unfamiliar with our hypocrisy would think Sophia was pulling a Tonto Dike vs Churchill on Davido. Tonto literally changed the name of their child , denied the man access to the child , goes to the child’s school on Father’s Day dressed in male attire , etc

On the contrary it was Davido right from the child’s infancy that tried stealing the child from the mother . He almost succeeded in shipping the child out of the country if not for Dele Momodu’s intervention. How do u expect that same woman to trust u with the custody of the same child?

It is only logical for her lawyers to argue that a toddler in ur care was deceased and that’s a ground for u not to be granted custody .

But Nigerians with sentiments think it is a blow below the belt .

GloriousGbola:


it seems madam bbl lawyer has a friend on the case.
davido may just end up embarrassing his new wife in court all the more
plenty of reeipts

GloriousGbola:


Quite literally she can drop imade at Davidos house, come back to pick her and be barred from entering the house. And she will not be able to do anything about it as a naija matter.

larride:


You are accusing others of sentiments when you are doing exactly that while discarding the whole context of this joint custody wahala.

1. Davido is not looking for full custody of the child, he's asking for joint custody.

2. Davido is asking for joint custody because Sophia is denying the man access to their daughter. Davido hasn't seen the child in over 1 year and everytime he request to see her, it's always one excuse after the other. Go to Twitter and see all the revelations that's coming out from the case. Even Davido father had to intervened and talk with Sophia about not denying the family access to their daughter and that one even disrespected his father. She wants to continue collecting child support from them but want to deny them access to their daughter, who will accept that.

3. Yes, the unfortunate incident happened with Ifeanyi but Davido wasn't even at home when it happened as there was carer who was tasked to take care of the son but what happened, happened but the same Imade fell sick for days when she was still breast feeding and test revealed cannabis in her blood, Sophia was tested and cannabis was found in her own blood too which means Sophia put their own daughter at risk.

4. Ifeanyi was a toddler when the accident happened (God rest his soul) Imade is not. What his asking for is joint custody and no man should be denied access to their child.

It's fine not to like Davido, but none of you siding with Sophia will accept what she's doing to Davido.

GloriousGbola:


The arguments about how Islam supports women actually have k leg. They reference Arab culture towards women. Arabs were burying their baby daughters alive. This was stopped due to Islam. But no one else was burying their baby daughters alive. This was limited solely to Arabs. So you can only argue that Islam made one change to stop a cruel culture that was limited to Arabs and not practised by anyone else.

If you have stopped genocide of girl babies their rights as human beings can be deferred to another time.

iamoyindamola:

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GloriousGbola:


As a man I am promised my personal orgy with 70 virgins in Al jannah

So what is promised to my wife?

The Qur'an promises that promiscuous men will continue to fk in hell with women whose tongue is gall, whose p*ssy is fire, whose bush is barbs. What is promised to promiscuous women as punishment?

Then again the prophet did say if I recall that hell will be full of women


Yep there it is

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/21457/more-women-in-hell-than-men


When your wife dey vex you tell her to behave and remind her that na women go full hell because they are stubborn and cantankerous and ungrateful beings

larride:


In a court assigned joint custody settlement?

This is pure Davido hating at this point. Nothing else.

folake4u:


Who be madam bbl?

iamoyindamola:

There is a reason I didn't take side in this argument because the 2 of them don't deserve the custody of the child especially Sophie

larride:


You are accusing others of sentiments when you are doing exactly that while discarding the whole context of this joint custody wahala.

1. Davido is not looking for full custody of the child, he's asking for joint custody.

2. Davido is asking for joint custody because Sophia is denying the man access to their daughter. Davido hasn't seen the child in over 1 year and everytime he request to see her, it's always one excuse after the other. Go to Twitter and see all the revelations that's coming out from the case. Even Davido father had to intervened and talk with Sophia about not denying the family access to their daughter and that one even disrespected his father. She wants to continue collecting child support from them but want to deny them access to their daughter, who will accept that.

3. Yes, the unfortunate incident happened with Ifeanyi but Davido wasn't even at home when it happened as there was carer who was tasked to take care of the son but what happened, happened but the same Imade fell sick for days when she was still breast feeding and test revealed cannabis in her blood, Sophia was tested and cannabis was found in her own blood too which means Sophia put their own daughter at risk.

4. Ifeanyi was a toddler when the accident happened (God rest his soul) Imade is not. What his asking for is joint custody and no man should be denied access to their child.

It's fine not to like Davido, but none of you siding with Sophia will accept what she's doing to Davido.