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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by bestman09(m): 11:46am On Jul 06
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by panpan(m): 12:00pm On Jul 06
The judgement is belated.
The judgement, dated 4th July 2024, gives an order to be carried out on 22nd February 2024.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Indispensable85(m): 12:01pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

English language is truly hard my brother....

Was the primary a subject of this suit, that's what you will ask first.

What was in contention was the ward delegates list not the Primary. Section 84(14) of the Electoral Act 2022 made it clear who can challenge or have the locus standi to challenge the outcome of a Primary.


Ighodalo will appeal because it will have adverse effects, but ask yourself why INEC has not acted on this Court Order...


The plaintiffs came under section 82 not 84, that's why the preliminary objection of the respondent was overruled by ekwo. They're not challenging the results of the primary but their unlawful exclusion from the process. Can you build on a faulty foundation? Can you build something on nothing and expect it to stand? As long as the process is pronounced faulty by the court, the results have been invalidated indirectly. Don't forget that thus case was already in court even before the primary election held. The pdp that is running to the appeal court knows what's at stake here.

By the way , inec doesn't need to act now until when it's time for final publishing of candidates name for the election. Let them not stay the execution and proceed to appeal. I wan check something.

In any case Asue Ighodalo will be trashed in the election.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Tareq1105: 12:05pm On Jul 06
Isaacc729l:
Despite political banters from critics, the certified true copy of the judgement reveals that the court did not void Edo PDPs guber primary.

So, why the appeal?

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Indispensable85(m): 12:05pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

Number One: How will they enforce it?
They are not aspirants hence cannot challenge anything that happened on 22/2/2024.

Even though Ighodalo must appeal.


The question is what is he appealing against? Since he's not affected? LolHaha

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Tareq1105: 12:16pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

English language is truly hard my brother....

Was the primary a subject of this suit, that's what you will ask first.

What was in contention was the ward delegates list not the Primary. Section 84(14) of the Electoral Act 2022 made it clear who can challenge or have the locus standi to challenge the outcome of a Primary.


Ighodalo will appeal because it will have adverse effects, but ask yourself why INEC has not acted on this Court Order...

Why is PDP entertaining his followers in this manner?

Why would it have adverse effect on ighodalo if truly the judgement doesn't invalidate his election?

Let ighodalo not appeal within the days allowed in Law if he would be on the ballot in September.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by FatimaAbubakar(f): 12:34pm On Jul 06
CrushObituaries:
Ok


Ekperima
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 12:35pm On Jul 06
fergie001:
The Certified True Copy of the Judgement delivered by Justice Inyang Edem Ekwo of the Federal High Court, Abuja shows that the ruling did not invalidate or nullify the Edo PDP Governorship Primary.

The judgement also did not make any pronouncement on the validity or otherwise of Asue Ighodalo or his running mate, Osarodion Ogie.

The suit was filed on 8th February 2024 by Kelvin Mohammed, on behalf of 375 Ward delegates allegedly barred from participating in the 22nd February Primary.
I had been waiting for your analysis..

Thanks..

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 12:40pm On Jul 06
Eriokanmi:
Fear the apc and propaganda. Even the PDP members resigning have been automatically welcome into the APC on social by propagandists cheesy, as if edo will vote the apc just like that, lol.

Oga,APC already have Edo...

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 12:42pm On Jul 06
BluntCrazeMan:
I had been waiting for your analysis..

Thanks..

It will have adverse effects on it nonetheless

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Christistruth00: 12:43pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

English language is truly hard my brother....

Was the primary a subject of this suit, that's what you will ask first.

What was in contention was the ward delegates list not the Primary. Section 84(14) of the Electoral Act 2022 made it clear who can challenge or have the locus standi to challenge the outcome of a Primary.


Ighodalo will appeal because it will have adverse effects, but ask yourself why INEC has not acted on this Court Order...


You cannot confuse us
The Recognized Delegates not on Obaseki's side were deliberately prevented from voting because Obaseki wanted to impose Asue by all means

It is not hard to understand

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by adioolayi(m): 12:56pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

Number One: How will they enforce it?
They are not aspirants hence cannot challenge anything that happened on 22/2/2024.

Even though Ighodalo must appeal.

So, why should Ighodalo appeal, since they are saying the judgement didn't affect him?

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Christistruth00: 12:57pm On Jul 06
adioolayi:


So, why should Ighodalo appeal, since they are saying the judgement didn't affect him?


Exactly
We might not be students of Law

but we are definitely students of the Truth

And God Almighty is a God of Truth and Justice

You cannot have Justice without Truth

And the Truth is Obaseki imposed Asue on the Party

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Great2017: 1:17pm On Jul 06
Indispensable85:



The plaintiffs came under section 82 not 84, that's why the preliminary objection of the respondent was overruled by ekwo. They're not challenging the results of the primary but their unlawful exclusion from the process. Can you build on a faulty foundation? Can you build something on nothing and expect it to stand? As long as the process is pronounced faulty by the court, the results have been invalidated indirectly. Don't forget that thus case was already in court even before the primary election held. The pdp that is running to the appeal court knows what's at stake here.

By the way , inec doesn't need to act now until when it's time for final publishing of candidates name for the election. Let them not stay the execution and proceed to appeal. I wan check something.

In any case Asue Ighodalo will be trashed in the election.
Your last paragraph already shows the side you are speaking for and therefore made all your analysis subjective.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 1:32pm On Jul 06
fergie001:
The Certified True Copy of the Judgement delivered by Justice Inyang Edem Ekwo of the Federal High Court, Abuja shows that the ruling did not invalidate or nullify the Edo PDP Governorship Primary.

The judgement also did not make any pronouncement on the validity or otherwise of Asue Ighodalo or his running mate, Osarodion Ogie.

The suit was filed on 8th February 2024 by Kelvin Mohammed, on behalf of 375 Ward delegates allegedly barred from participating in the 22nd February Primary.


FROM MY OWN ANALYSIS..
THESE ARE THE THINGS I NOTICED FROM THE JUDGEMENT..

1. The Court accepted that the 378 delegates were THE TRUE DELEGATES, but were illegally excluded from the Primaries.. But nothing was said about the authenticity of those delegates who finally participated in the primaries (who were not elected at the various wards).

2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES.
Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID.
They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise.


3. The Court went ahead and ORDERED PDP to INCLUDE the Excluded DELEGATES in the PRIMARIES which was held in FAR-BACK FEBRUARY-2024.

HOW COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE.??
WHAT EXACTLY DID THE COURT MEAN BY THAT.?
IS IT FOR THE PDP TO CONDUCT A FRESH PRIMARIES.??
OR FOR PDP TO APPROPRIATE VOTE-COUNTS TO THOSE EXCLUDED DELEGATES
(I really don't understand that part of the rulings -- thus, the plaintiffs might have to seek for further interpretations of that part of the ruling)

If the Court wanted to render the Primaries NULL-AND-VOID, The Judges would have mentioned it inside the Judgement.!!

4. Thus, if PDP “INCLUDES” the excluded delegates without removing those delegates who were Not elected at the wards, then it means that the delegates who were elected at the wards are lesser in number to those who finally participated in the primaries..

IN ALL SINCERITY,, THIS JUDGEMENT IS SUBJECT TO FURTHER INTERPRETATIONS.


Cc..
Senatordave1

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by fergie001: 1:40pm On Jul 06
adioolayi:


So, why should Ighodalo appeal, since they are saying the judgement didn't affect him?
Simple, it doesn't take his name off the ballot.
If he wins and it gets to the tribunal,na wahala then.....
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Bobloco: 1:42pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

The motto of the Boys Scout is Be Prepared.
👍

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Bobloco: 1:44pm On Jul 06
senatordave1:


Oga,APC already have Edo...

senatordave1, be patient September will soon be here

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 1:44pm On Jul 06
senatordave1:


It will have adverse effects on it nonetheless
There might be need for the plaintiff to go back to the courts again for further interpretations.

If not,, the precedences that would be set here would be very disastrous in the future.
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Ojuntana: 1:48pm On Jul 06
AntiChristian:
So wetin happen now?

People Duping People!
Alhamduliahi
You've found your true calling

Tell us about All Progressive Criminals who have been terrorising you with poverty
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by psucc(m): 1:51pm On Jul 06
This judgement has been overtaken by events. And so cannot be enforced. The primaries was conducted in February while the judgement came in August, hence its enforcement is statute barred.
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:12pm On Jul 06
BluntCrazeMan:
There might be need for the plaintiff to go back to the courts again for further interpretations.

If not,, the precedences that would be set here would be very disastrous in the future.

True.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:13pm On Jul 06
Bobloco:


senatordave1, be patient September will soon be here

Must November reach before you know APC has Ondo

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by frog12: 2:16pm On Jul 06
2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES.
Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID.
They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise:


Mr lawyer. no be the court say the process was fraudulent? wetin that mean?


BluntCrazeMan:


FROM MY OWN ANALYSIS..
THESE ARE THE THINGS I NOTICED FROM THE JUDGEMENT..

1. The Court accepted that the 378 delegates were THE TRUE DELEGATES, but were illegally excluded from the Primaries.. But nothing was said about the authenticity of those delegates who finally participated in the primaries (who were not elected at the various wards).

2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES.
Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID.
They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise.


3. The Court went ahead and ORDERED PDP to INCLUDE the Excluded DELEGATES in the PRIMARIES which was held in FAR-BACK FEBRUARY-2024.

HOW COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE.??
WHAT EXACTLY DID THE COURT MEAN BY THAT.?
IS IT FOR THE PDP TO CONDUCT A FRESH PRIMARIES.??
OR FOR PDP TO APPROPRIATE VOTE-COUNTS TO THOSE EXCLUDED DELEGATES
(I really don't understand that part of the rulings -- thus, the plaintiffs might have to seek for further interpretations of that part of the ruling)

If the Court wanted to render the Primaries NULL-AND-VOID, The Judges would have mentioned it inside the Judgement.!!

4. Thus, if PDP “INCLUDES” the excluded delegates without removing those delegates who were Not elected at the wards, then it means that the delegates who were elected at the wards are lesser in number to those who finally participated in the primaries..

IN ALL SINCERITY,, THIS JUDGEMENT IS SUBJECT TO FURTHER INTERPRETATIONS.


Cc..
Senatordave1

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by adioolayi(m): 2:16pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

Simple, it doesn't take his name off the ballot.
If he wins and it gets to the tribunal,na wahala then.....

Okay
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by nelsonose: 2:18pm On Jul 06
Obiedun:
Why is PDP rushing to court?

Oh, it is very important that PDP challenges this judgement otherwise, it can form the basis upon which APC can institute a case to nullify the PDP primary.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:20pm On Jul 06
BluntCrazeMan:


FROM MY OWN ANALYSIS..
THESE ARE THE THINGS I NOTICED FROM THE JUDGEMENT..

1. The Court accepted that the 378 delegates were THE TRUE DELEGATES, but were illegally excluded from the Primaries.. But nothing was said about the authenticity of those delegates who finally participated in the primaries (who were not elected at the various wards).

2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES.
Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID.
They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise.


3. The Court went ahead and ORDERED PDP to INCLUDE the Excluded DELEGATES in the PRIMARIES which was held in FAR-BACK FEBRUARY-2024.

HOW COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE.??
WHAT EXACTLY DID THE COURT MEAN BY THAT.?
IS IT FOR THE PDP TO CONDUCT A FRESH PRIMARIES.??
OR FOR PDP TO APPROPRIATE VOTE-COUNTS TO THOSE EXCLUDED DELEGATES
(I really don't understand that part of the rulings -- thus, the plaintiffs might have to seek for further interpretations of that part of the ruling)

If the Court wanted to render the Primaries NULL-AND-VOID, The Judges would have mentioned it inside the Judgement.!!

4. Thus, if PDP “INCLUDES” the excluded delegates without removing those delegates who were Not elected at the wards, then it means that the delegates who were elected at the wards are lesser in number to those who finally participated in the primaries..

IN ALL SINCERITY,, THIS JUDGEMENT IS SUBJECT TO FURTHER INTERPRETATIONS.


Cc..
Senatordave1

I like your analysis.something similar happened to APC in Taraba where their primaries was partially nullified and to be on the safer side,they conducted a fresh primaries three months to the polls.i think something similar happened in Benue too last year...
I think we need to see the full judgment not this wishy washy and if pdp actually uses fake delegates and illegally substituted real delegates, their primary is by implication null.

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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by fergie001: 2:21pm On Jul 06
BluntCrazeMan:
Cc..
Senatordave1
Again, let me stress that the Courts have no business to adjudicate on the selection or nomination of candidates for political parties, however, the Court has limited Jurisdiction when it comes to Parties obeying its own rules.

The Ward delegateship election is a process culminating in the choosing of a candidate in a primary election. Hence, you cannot divorce Sections 82 from 84 of the EA 2022.

The Courts have stressed many times that only an aspirant has the locus standi to challenge such a suit, it is non-justicable because it falls within the domestic affairs of a political party.

See these: Dalhatu v Turaki, Ayogu Eze v PDP and most recently in the same Edo in Enoghama v PDP. (see link): https://www.nairaland.com/7359275/edo-pdp-supreme-court-affirms#117134104

I have repeated this many times that the Court has no business in imposing an adhoc delegate on a Party. I also repeat you CANNOT DIVORCE THE WARD DELEGATES ELECTION FROM THE PRIMARY PF THAT PARTY.

I also re-emphasise that the intervention of the Courts in the process of selecting or nominating a candidate is very narrow and can only confidently come under Section 84(14), that is to filed by an aspirant.

https://www.thecable.ng/edo-pdp-congress-scourt-dismisses-suit-by-orbihs-faction-says-its-a-party-affair/amp/ (Please check whether this suit is different from the particular one discussed).

for indispensable85

1. INEC has published her final list for Edo.
https://inecnigeria.org/?page_id=13150

2. Let him fight it on 21/Sept but I am looking at the suit proper proper for now.

3. Section 82 talks about duly elected delegates participating in the process.

4. I never said Ighodalo wasn't affected. I have carefully confined myself on whether the PDP Primary was nullified or not. The topic is clear that the primary was not nullified in the sense that it never came up in the suit ab initio.

For Tareq1105
1. If Ighodalo doesn't appeal, his name will still be on the ballot because the judge never made any pronouncement on any consequential order that touches on his validity.

However, if nothing happens as Kelvin Mohammed and others want it to be, they will approach another Court for enforcement which will be granted, and that can be latched on at the tribunal because either the Candidate or the Party refused to appeal.

For Christistruth00
1. How were the "delegates" prevented from participating in the Congress?
Were they restrained? Was there any police report or court order that ensured they did not attend?

They didn't participate in the Congress, they have to show why!
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:31pm On Jul 06
fergie001:

Again, let me stress that the Courts have no business to adjudicate on the selection or nomination of candidates for political parties, however, the Court has limited Jurisdiction when it comes to Parties obeying its own rules.

The Ward delegateship election is a process culminating in the choosing of a candidate in a primary election. Hence, you cannot divorce Sections 82 from 84 of the EA 2022.

The Courts have stressed many times that only an aspirant has the locus standi to challenge such a suit, it is non-justicable because it falls within the domestic affairs of a political party.

See these: Dalhatu v Turaki, Ayogu Eze v PDP and most recently in the same Edo in Enoghama v PDP. (see link): https://www.nairaland.com/7359275/edo-pdp-supreme-court-affirms#117134104

I have repeated this many times that the Court has no business in imposing an adhoc delegate on a Party. I also repeat you CANNOT DIVORCE THE WARD DELEGATES ELECTION FROM THE PRIMARY PF THAT PARTY.

I also re-emphasise that the intervention of the Courts in the process of selecting or nominating a candidate is very narrow and can only confidently come under Section 84(14), that is to filed by an aspirant.

https://www.thecable.ng/edo-pdp-congress-scourt-dismisses-suit-by-orbihs-faction-says-its-a-party-affair/amp/ (Please check whether this suit is different from the particular one discussed).

for indispensable85

1. INEC has published her final list for Edo.
https://inecnigeria.org/?page_id=13150

2. Let him fight it on 21/Sept but I am looking at the suit proper proper for now.

3. Section 82 talks about duly elected delegates participating in the process.

4. I never said Ighodalo wasn't affected. I have carefully confined myself on whether the PDP Primary was nullified or not. The topic is clear that the primary was not nullified in the sense that it never came up in the suit ab initio.

For Tareq1105
1. If Ighodalo doesn't appeal, his name will still be on the ballot because the judge never made any pronouncement on my consequential order that touches on his validity.

However, if nothing happens as Kelvin Mohammed and others want it to be, they will approach another Court for enforcement which will be granted, and that can be latched on at the tribunal because either the Candidate or the Party refused to appeal.

For Christistruth00
1. How were the "delegates" prevented from participating in the Congress?
Were they restrained? Was there any police report or court order that ensured they did not attend?

They didn't participate in the Congress, they have to show why!



In Agi vs pdp 2016,the apex court said internal matters are the business of the parties but the court will intervene if the party disregards or violates it's own laws...pdp has violated its own constitution.duly elected ward delegates were clearly excluded and illegally substituted birthing an illegal , fraudulent primary...
While the court did not mention delegates expressly,it didn't exclude them.by the principle of Ubi Jus ubi remedium,they have rights as contemplated under section 82.

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