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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by bestman09(m): 11:46am On Jul 06 |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by panpan(m): 12:00pm On Jul 06 |
The judgement is belated. The judgement, dated 4th July 2024, gives an order to be carried out on 22nd February 2024. 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Indispensable85(m): 12:01pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: The plaintiffs came under section 82 not 84, that's why the preliminary objection of the respondent was overruled by ekwo. They're not challenging the results of the primary but their unlawful exclusion from the process. Can you build on a faulty foundation? Can you build something on nothing and expect it to stand? As long as the process is pronounced faulty by the court, the results have been invalidated indirectly. Don't forget that thus case was already in court even before the primary election held. The pdp that is running to the appeal court knows what's at stake here. By the way , inec doesn't need to act now until when it's time for final publishing of candidates name for the election. Let them not stay the execution and proceed to appeal. I wan check something. In any case Asue Ighodalo will be trashed in the election. 8 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Tareq1105: 12:05pm On Jul 06 |
Isaacc729l: So, why the appeal? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Indispensable85(m): 12:05pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: The question is what is he appealing against? Since he's not affected? LolHaha 6 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Tareq1105: 12:16pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: Why is PDP entertaining his followers in this manner? Why would it have adverse effect on ighodalo if truly the judgement doesn't invalidate his election? Let ighodalo not appeal within the days allowed in Law if he would be on the ballot in September. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by FatimaAbubakar(f): 12:34pm On Jul 06 |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 12:35pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001:I had been waiting for your analysis.. Thanks.. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 12:40pm On Jul 06 |
Eriokanmi: Oga,APC already have Edo... 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 12:42pm On Jul 06 |
BluntCrazeMan: It will have adverse effects on it nonetheless 3 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Christistruth00: 12:43pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: You cannot confuse us The Recognized Delegates not on Obaseki's side were deliberately prevented from voting because Obaseki wanted to impose Asue by all means It is not hard to understand 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by adioolayi(m): 12:56pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: So, why should Ighodalo appeal, since they are saying the judgement didn't affect him? 5 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Christistruth00: 12:57pm On Jul 06 |
adioolayi: Exactly We might not be students of Law but we are definitely students of the Truth And God Almighty is a God of Truth and Justice You cannot have Justice without Truth And the Truth is Obaseki imposed Asue on the Party 5 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Great2017: 1:17pm On Jul 06 |
Indispensable85:Your last paragraph already shows the side you are speaking for and therefore made all your analysis subjective. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 1:32pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: FROM MY OWN ANALYSIS.. THESE ARE THE THINGS I NOTICED FROM THE JUDGEMENT.. 1. The Court accepted that the 378 delegates were THE TRUE DELEGATES, but were illegally excluded from the Primaries.. But nothing was said about the authenticity of those delegates who finally participated in the primaries (who were not elected at the various wards). 2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES. Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID. They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise. 3. The Court went ahead and ORDERED PDP to INCLUDE the Excluded DELEGATES in the PRIMARIES which was held in FAR-BACK FEBRUARY-2024. HOW COULD THAT BE POSSIBLE.?? WHAT EXACTLY DID THE COURT MEAN BY THAT.? IS IT FOR THE PDP TO CONDUCT A FRESH PRIMARIES.?? OR FOR PDP TO APPROPRIATE VOTE-COUNTS TO THOSE EXCLUDED DELEGATES (I really don't understand that part of the rulings -- thus, the plaintiffs might have to seek for further interpretations of that part of the ruling) If the Court wanted to render the Primaries NULL-AND-VOID, The Judges would have mentioned it inside the Judgement.!! 4. Thus, if PDP “INCLUDES” the excluded delegates without removing those delegates who were Not elected at the wards, then it means that the delegates who were elected at the wards are lesser in number to those who finally participated in the primaries.. IN ALL SINCERITY,, THIS JUDGEMENT IS SUBJECT TO FURTHER INTERPRETATIONS. Cc.. Senatordave1 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by fergie001: 1:40pm On Jul 06 |
adioolayi:Simple, it doesn't take his name off the ballot. If he wins and it gets to the tribunal,na wahala then..... |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Bobloco: 1:42pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001:👍 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Bobloco: 1:44pm On Jul 06 |
senatordave1: senatordave1, be patient September will soon be here 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by BluntCrazeMan: 1:44pm On Jul 06 |
senatordave1:There might be need for the plaintiff to go back to the courts again for further interpretations. If not,, the precedences that would be set here would be very disastrous in the future. |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by Ojuntana: 1:48pm On Jul 06 |
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Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by psucc(m): 1:51pm On Jul 06 |
This judgement has been overtaken by events. And so cannot be enforced. The primaries was conducted in February while the judgement came in August, hence its enforcement is statute barred. |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:12pm On Jul 06 |
BluntCrazeMan: True. 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:13pm On Jul 06 |
Bobloco: Must November reach before you know APC has Ondo 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by frog12: 2:16pm On Jul 06 |
2. The court didn't rule that the delegates who FINALLY Participated in the Primaries were FALSE DELEGATES. Thus,, this means that the Status-Quo still remains. The delegates who participated in the primaries were still regarded as VALID. They are still regarded as TRUE DELEGATES in that particular primaries, since the court didn't declare them otherwise: Mr lawyer. no be the court say the process was fraudulent? wetin that mean? BluntCrazeMan: 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by adioolayi(m): 2:16pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: Okay |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by nelsonose: 2:18pm On Jul 06 |
Obiedun: Oh, it is very important that PDP challenges this judgement otherwise, it can form the basis upon which APC can institute a case to nullify the PDP primary. 2 Likes |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:20pm On Jul 06 |
BluntCrazeMan: I like your analysis.something similar happened to APC in Taraba where their primaries was partially nullified and to be on the safer side,they conducted a fresh primaries three months to the polls.i think something similar happened in Benue too last year... I think we need to see the full judgment not this wishy washy and if pdp actually uses fake delegates and illegally substituted real delegates, their primary is by implication null. 1 Like |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by fergie001: 2:21pm On Jul 06 |
BluntCrazeMan:Again, let me stress that the Courts have no business to adjudicate on the selection or nomination of candidates for political parties, however, the Court has limited Jurisdiction when it comes to Parties obeying its own rules. The Ward delegateship election is a process culminating in the choosing of a candidate in a primary election. Hence, you cannot divorce Sections 82 from 84 of the EA 2022. The Courts have stressed many times that only an aspirant has the locus standi to challenge such a suit, it is non-justicable because it falls within the domestic affairs of a political party. See these: Dalhatu v Turaki, Ayogu Eze v PDP and most recently in the same Edo in Enoghama v PDP. (see link): https://www.nairaland.com/7359275/edo-pdp-supreme-court-affirms#117134104 I have repeated this many times that the Court has no business in imposing an adhoc delegate on a Party. I also repeat you CANNOT DIVORCE THE WARD DELEGATES ELECTION FROM THE PRIMARY PF THAT PARTY. I also re-emphasise that the intervention of the Courts in the process of selecting or nominating a candidate is very narrow and can only confidently come under Section 84(14), that is to filed by an aspirant. https://www.thecable.ng/edo-pdp-congress-scourt-dismisses-suit-by-orbihs-faction-says-its-a-party-affair/amp/ (Please check whether this suit is different from the particular one discussed). for indispensable85 1. INEC has published her final list for Edo. https://inecnigeria.org/?page_id=13150 2. Let him fight it on 21/Sept but I am looking at the suit proper proper for now. 3. Section 82 talks about duly elected delegates participating in the process. 4. I never said Ighodalo wasn't affected. I have carefully confined myself on whether the PDP Primary was nullified or not. The topic is clear that the primary was not nullified in the sense that it never came up in the suit ab initio. For Tareq1105 1. If Ighodalo doesn't appeal, his name will still be on the ballot because the judge never made any pronouncement on any consequential order that touches on his validity. However, if nothing happens as Kelvin Mohammed and others want it to be, they will approach another Court for enforcement which will be granted, and that can be latched on at the tribunal because either the Candidate or the Party refused to appeal. For Christistruth00 1. How were the "delegates" prevented from participating in the Congress? Were they restrained? Was there any police report or court order that ensured they did not attend? They didn't participate in the Congress, they have to show why! |
Re: Court Did Not Void Edo PDP Guber Primary: See Certified True Copy Of Judgement by senatordave1(m): 2:31pm On Jul 06 |
fergie001: In Agi vs pdp 2016,the apex court said internal matters are the business of the parties but the court will intervene if the party disregards or violates it's own laws...pdp has violated its own constitution.duly elected ward delegates were clearly excluded and illegally substituted birthing an illegal , fraudulent primary... While the court did not mention delegates expressly,it didn't exclude them.by the principle of Ubi Jus ubi remedium,they have rights as contemplated under section 82. 2 Likes |
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