Krismas:
LOL
U mean u couldnt understand wot u just watched?
alright, here we go:
1. Biden emphatically say he was not advised not to withdraw
2. General Mark Milley say he wanted some troops like 35k left behind . wen asked if he advised such to the president, he say, he can't disclose wot he advised president. but PERSONALY he would have wanted 35k to remain to assist afghan military.
3. General Mark Milley say American intelligence didn't see the sudden collapse of the afghan military. i told u, u didn't believe, the general told, u still don't believe?

Long story short. the man is just LYING
Obama sent 250k troops to afghanistan. if that didn't help, is it 35k that will help?

1 Are you joking? All of Biden's generals told him the consequences of pulling out the army.
2. They all testified that the Afghan army was going to fold up but they did not know it would happen so soon.
3. Biden pulled out the army before the civilians that alone is madness
4. I support the withdrawal of America troops. But even a low IQ person would know that civilians should first be pulled out before the military.
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee found that as many as 9,000 Americans were left in Afghanistan during the Biden Administration's disastrous withdrawal.
Note, the Senate is controlled by the Dems.
The 13 soldiers killed at the airport wouldn't have died if Biden did the right thing here.

Krismas:
u have nothing to teach me, with due respect . likes of u believe inordinately in MSM even when they are leading u astray.
which link will i give, u wont call conspiracy theory?
the cornerstone of the matter was that america was badly losing in afghanistan. just like israel is losing in gaza.
prolonging stay, would only have made it worse.
As Biden summarized it, THERE IS NO BETTER TIME TO LEAVE
meaning, even if the withdrawal took place EXACTLY the date, u are now proposing, u would still be the first to condemn the same withdrawal date as premature. Thats how bad american military position was

Let me summarize our discussion for you so you would understand.
Let's say I believe you and begin to argue your point right.
And the person I am arguing with pulls out all his sources to show that Biden of warned of the collapse of the Afghan army then he ask for my source and I say I got the advice from a guy on Nairaland who I don't even remember his name.
He pointed to mo source, he got most of his fact wrong but he is a fan of Biden so he most be correct.
Thats our entire argument for you.
One more thing, when Biden took 9ver, America was not badly losing to Afghan. In fact, in the last year and half of trump in America, no solider was killed.

tctrills:

Let me summarize our discussion for you so you would understand.
Let's say I believe you and begin to argue your point right.
And the person I am arguing with pulls out all his sources to show that Biden of warned of the collapse of the Afghan army then he ask for my source and I say I got the advice from a guy on Nairaland who I don't even remember his name.
He pointed to mo source, he got most of his fact wrong but he is a fan of Biden so he most be correct.
Thats our entire argument for you.
One more thing, when Biden took 9ver, America was not badly losing to Afghan. In fact, in the last year and half of trump in America, no solider was killed.

NO SOLDIER WAS KILLED
according to MSM
so why did they pull out atall?
You making no sense. u have no clue how deceptive MSM is. And thats wot u qoute from morning till night, cos dats wot u badly want to believe
So here is another shocker for u.
All of Afghan military then were all TALIBAN From head to toe.
America was fooled. Just like in gaza, EVERYONE IS HAMAS.

Krismas:
NO SOLDIER WAS KILLED
according to MSM
so why did they pull out atall?
You making no sense. u have no clue how deceptive MSM is. And thats wot u qoute from morning till night, cos dats wot u badly want to believe
So here is another shocker for u.
All of Afghan military then were all TALIBAN From head to toe.
America was fooled. Just like in gaza, EVERYONE IS HAMAS.

Oga in the last 6 month of trump,no American soldier was kill.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/05/brigitte-gabriel/18-month-stretch-of-no-us-military-deaths-in-afgha/
I deal on facts not emotions
One question, why should any one believe you when no source collaborates your opinion?

tctrills:

1 Are you joking? All of Biden's generals told him the consequences of pulling out the army.
2. They all testified that the Afghan army was going to fold up but they did not know it would happen so soon.
3. Biden pulled out the army before the civilians that alone is madness
4. I support the withdrawal of America troops. But even a low IQ person would know that civilians should first be pulled out before the military.
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee found that as many as 9,000 Americans were left in Afghanistan during the Biden Administration's disastrous withdrawal.
Note, the Senate is controlled by the Dems.
The 13 soldiers killed at the airport wouldn't have died if Biden did the right thing here.

U need to stop deceiving yourself. tank goodness no rubbish link was added this time.
1. Biden is not a military man, he knows nothing about military business . he ONLY does as he is advised by his military experts.
2. the american army folded up, is it afghan army that will not? thats so obvious. how important is their useless testimony?
3. Biden had an agreement with the taliban for safe passage. besides it doesn't matter who u pull out first. the military couldn't even protect themselves. talkless civilians. or were they not in the airport, when 4suicide bomders killed alot of civilians? how do u defend against suicide bombers? and most of the civilians were even afghans.
4. Americans who were left in afghan, were those WHO ELECTED TO STAY
it had nothing to do with biden

tctrills:

Oga in the last 6 month of trump,no American soldier was kill.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/jul/05/brigitte-gabriel/18-month-stretch-of-no-us-military-deaths-in-afgha/
I deal on facts not emotions
One question, why should any one believe you when no source collaborates your opinion?

u have NO FACT
same way u have fact that only 300 IDF have died in gaza?
if america was comfortable in afghan, why would dey leave? american troops have been in korea since early 50s.
or u think afghan na korea?

Krismas:

U need to stop deceiving yourself. tank goodness no rubbish link was added this time.
1. Biden is not a military man, he knows nothing about military business . he ONLY does as he is advised by his military experts.
2. the american army folded up, is it afghan army that will not? thats so obvious. how important is their useless testimony?
3. Biden had an agreement with the taliban for safe passage. besides it doesn't matter who u pull out first. the military couldn't even protect themselves. talkless civilians. or were they not in the airport, when 4suicide bomders killed alot of civilians? how do u defend against suicide bombers? and most of the civilians were even afghans.
4. Americans who were left in afghan, were those WHO ELECTED TO STAY
it had nothing to do with biden

Oga Biden is a military man. He is the chief of staff of the military. He makes the biggest military decisions in the world and he has the best advisers.
2.you second point has nothing to do with our argument.
3. This is your most foolish point so far. You mean you would first rescue your military before civilians in a war? Secondly before the disorderly pull out, no single American soldier has died in over 2 years so again, you are wrong.
4 . Wrong again. If so, why do you think Biden spent billions to evacuate 100k people in 3 weeks. I would send you links to show you that Americans in Afghan at that time were mostly despite and looking for a way out. At least you should believe their family members right.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-evacuations-82k-mid-august-31-deadline/

Krismas:
u have NO FACT
same way u have fact that only 300 IDF have died in gaza?
if america was comfortable in afghan, why would dey leave? american troops have been in korea since early 50s.
or u think afghan na korea?

You can doubt fact and I can't help you with that. Pulling out of Afghan has nothing to do with comfort. There are a million other reasons to pull out from an expensive military operation that is not popular among the American people.
Please produce just one source to back up your opinion my guy.

Krismas:
u have NO FACT
same way u have fact that only 300 IDF have died in gaza?
if america was comfortable in afghan, why would dey leave? american troops have been in korea since early 50s.
or u think afghan na korea?

Oga this argument is useless. We live in parallel worlds. You are in a world where you make you things in your head and I am in a world where I look at facts, data, where I study and research before forming an opinion.
Do you see why we can never agree?

tctrills:

Oga Biden is a military man. He is the chief of staff of the military. He makes the biggest military decisions in the world and he has the best advisers.
2.you second point has nothing to do with our argument.
3. This is your most foolish point so far. You mean you would first rescue your military before civilians in a war? Secondly before the disorderly pull out, no single American soldier has died in over 2 years so again, you are wrong.
4 . Wrong again. If so, why do you think Biden spent billions to evacuate 100k people in 3 weeks. I would send you links to show you that Americans in Afghan at that time were mostly despite and looking for a way out. At least you should believe their family members right.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/afghanistan-evacuations-82k-mid-august-31-deadline/

1. Biden is a puppet of the military industrial complex and various military lobbies. he does as he is told.
3. in a suituation where the military cant even protect civilians, wot does it matter who you evacuate first? HOW DO U DEFEND AGAINST SUICIDE BOMBERS? Why don't u answer??
and if american soldiers are not dying? why pulling out?
4. report has it dat 98% americans were evacuated leaving maybe 100-200. question is wot were they doing in war zone to begin with?
civilian evacuation is usually B4 war begin not during or at end of.
i can only suspect those left behind are useless white colonial landgrabbers, who want their loots protected in afghan at all cost

tctrills:

Oga this argument is useless. We live in parallel worlds. You are in a world where you make you things in your head and I am in a world where I look at facts, data, where I study and research before forming an opinion.
Do you see why we can never agree?

wot u call FACTS are mere LIES parroted by MSM.
Am sure it was FACT to u, the monstrous LIE that Saddam Hussein had WMD b4 the iraq war?
It was fact to u, that the covid vac was the only protection against covid?
u have no clue wot fact is

Krismas:
wot u call FACTS are mere LIES parroted by MSM.
Am sure it was FACT to u, the monstrous LIE that Saddam Hussein had WMD b4 the iraq war?
It was fact to u, that the covid vac was the only protection against covid?
u have no clue wot fact is

Again, your opinion, I can't stop you from calling the fact a lie but it's 3 days now and you are yet to point to just one source that's a shame don't you think?

Krismas:

1. Biden is a puppet of the military industrial complex and various military lobbies. he does as he is told.
3. in a suituation where the military cant even protect civilians, wot does it matter who you evacuate first? HOW DO U DEFEND AGAINST SUICIDE BOMBERS? Why don't u answer??
and if american soldiers are not dying? why pulling out?
4. report has it dat 98% americans were evacuated leaving maybe 100-200. question is wot were they doing in war zone to begin with?
civilian evacuation is usually B4 war begin not during or at end of.
i can only suspect those left behind are useless white colonial landgrabbers, who want their loots protected in afghan at all cost

I see you and Biden have a lot in common. As head of state, you will first rescue your military before pulling out your civilians. That's why I say I can't argue with you we live in parallel worlds.
Again, I am waiting for you to point to your sources so that I can take you serious.

tctrills:

You can doubt fact and I can't help you with that. Pulling out of Afghan has nothing to do with comfort. There are a million other reasons to pull out from an expensive military operation that is not popular among the American people.
Please produce just one source to back up your opinion my guy.

The Afghan war was supposed to be cos of 9/11 attacks. It WAS VERY POPULAR among Americans.
As for expense of the war, u think America will go fight in a place where there is no gain? America sold opium for 20yrs in Afghanistan. They made loads of money

Krismas:
The Afghan war was supposed to be cos of 9/11 attacks. It WAS VERY POPULAR among Americans.
As for expense of the war, u think America will go fight in a place where there is no gain? America sold opium for 20yrs in Afghanistan. They made loads of money

Wait is this your source for our discussion or did you mistake me for another person. I can't remember when we discussed opuim. Please get back to topic

tctrills:

I see you and Biden have a lot in common. As head of state, you will first rescue your military before pulling out your civilians. That's why I say I can't argue with you we live in parallel worlds.
Again, I am waiting for you to point to your sources so that I can take you serious.

u pull out civilians before u start a war and not on the close of a war.
so, i don't understand dis ur sudden concern for civilians. how come its such a huge deal to u?
where were all the civilians wen the war raged in the country?

Krismas:
u pull out civilians before u start a war and not on the close of a war.
so, i don't understand dis ur sudden concern for civilians. how come its such a huge deal to u?
where were all the civilians wen the war raged in the country?

That's why I said you think like biden. For me, civilians are always the priority no matter the time

tctrills:

Wait is this your source for our discussion or did you mistake me for another person. I can't remember when we discussed opuim. Please get back to topic

get back to topic? you talked about expense of the war! And am telling u america sold opium in afghanistan.
dey made a lot of money pushing drugs on the world. is that not relevant?
just look at the opium production under america!

tctrills:

That's why I said you think like biden. For me, civilians are always the priority no matter the time

biden didn't start the war. bush did, handed over to obama and trump.
so, why were civilians not anyones concern b4 the war?
why is civilians now a major raucous only after war ended?

tctrills:

1 Are you joking? All of Biden's generals told him the consequences of pulling out the army.
2. They all testified that the Afghan army was going to fold up but they did not know it would happen so soon.
3. Biden pulled out the army before the civilians that alone is madness
4. I support the withdrawal of America troops. But even a low IQ person would know that civilians should first be pulled out before the military.
the Senate Foreign Relations Committee found that as many as 9,000 Americans were left in Afghanistan during the Biden Administration's disastrous withdrawal.
Note, the Senate is controlled by the Dems.
The 13 soldiers killed at the airport wouldn't have died if Biden did the right thing here.

if Biden did not pullout wen he did, maybe all american troops in afghan would have been wasted by now.

Krismas:
if Biden did not pullout wen he did, maybe all american troops in afghan would have been wasted by now.

Just so you know, America lost more men in Korea than in Afghanistan and Iraq added together.
But that isn't even the point. You and Biden are in the same school of thought that you pull out soldiers before civilians so it's hard to debate with people in your world.

Krismas:
biden didn't start the war. bush did, handed over to obama and trump.
so, why were civilians not anyones concern b4 the war?
why is civilians now a major raucous only after war ended?

I really don't understand your point here. Are you saying that because Biden did not start 5he war, he was not supposed to evacuate civilians? Or are you saying that Bush is expected to rescue the civilians even when he is no longer in office?
What is your point?

Krismas:
get back to topic? you talked about expense of the war! And am telling u america sold opium in afghanistan.
dey made a lot of money pushing drugs on the world. is that not relevant?
just look at the opium production under america!

Are you a child? According to your sources, how much did the US make from opium and how much did they spend on the war?
Find the difference and then we can debate even using your sources.

tctrills:

Just so you know, America lost more men in Korea than in Afghanistan and Iraq added together.
But that isn't even the point. You and Biden are in the same school of thought that you pull out soldiers before civilians so it's hard to debate with people in your world.

U keep saying all dis things but fail to answer why civilians were not pulled out b4 the war got underway.
Why didn’t the Americans leave b4 the war? Why were they inside the country as the war raged?

tctrills:

I really don't understand your point here. Are you saying that because Biden did not start 5he war, he was not supposed to evacuate civilians? Or are you saying that Bush is expected to rescue the civilians even when he is no longer in office?
What is your point?

What’s the sense evacuating civilians after war? Why didn’t those civilians evacuate before the war? Biden didn’t start the war. Those who did, did not evacuate maybe cos, there were no civilians in the first place or the civilians faced no dangers from Taliban

tctrills:

Are you a child? According to your sources, how much did the US make from opium and how much did they spend on the war?
Find the difference and then we can debate even using your sources.

continue to deceive urself as usual. I am done talking to you. Thanks and bye

Krismas:
continue to deceive urself as usual. I am done talking to you. Thanks and bye

Oga please before you go just tell us, how much did the US make from you fathom opium sale vs how much they spent on the war. Just answer this and you are free to go

Krismas:
What’s the sense evacuating civilians after war? Why didn’t those civilians evacuate before the war? Biden didn’t start the war. Those who did, did not evacuate maybe cos, there were no civilians in the first place or the civilians faced no dangers from Taliban

Again, you and Biden have the same thinking on this. But then, Biden went ahead with the evacuation of 100k people in 3 weeks that led to the deaths of 13 service people so even on your merits, Biden is a failure

Krismas:
U keep saying all dis things but fail to answer why civilians were not pulled out b4 the war got underway.
Why didn’t the Americans leave b4 the war? Why were they inside the country as the war raged?

Civilians came to Afghan because it made safe by the military so it only made sense to pull them out first. But then I still beg you just give me a link to your sources that's the respectable thing to do. That's if you have any link

Krismas:
major public personalities and politicians took WHAT? How do u know politicians didn't take mere vitamin C?
U, worry about wot u took

😅 Right! I and my relatives, friends, and neighbors also took vitamin C!
Covid was killing millions, why do you think the deaths stopped once vaccines were introduced??

DaddyCoool:


😅 Right! I and my relatives, friends, and neighbors also took vitamin C!
Covid was killing millions, why do you think the deaths stopped once vaccines were introduced??

clown
Nigeria is more than 250million people
only 5million nigerans took the shot
3million took only 1st shot
2million took 1st and 2nd shot
are those the so called covid vaccine that saved nigerians from covid death?

Paving the way for the satanic Karmala Harris? . What a surprise. I feel sorry for the Americans;more satanic and sadistic laws and policies will be delivered on their heads