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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by OdefaGirl(f): 9:15pm On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:


Sharap there, so Aba Ngwa is no more Igbo but Bini?

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by biremi(m): 9:17pm On Jul 06
LadyExcellency:


Sharap there, so Aba Ngwa is no more Igbo but Bini?

Please don't argue with him
Let him tell us the meaning of Akalaka (akara_aka in Igbo) in the Bin language so that from the Man's name we will decide if he was Bini in the first place

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by biremi(m): 9:37pm On Jul 06
The assertion that the language that a person speak doesn't determine his tribal identify is correct but there is one exception to that rule
Your mother tongue definitely determine your tribal identify or else you are tribe less
For goodness sake you cannot separate your mother tongue from your tribe.
I speak french, English and Ibibio fluently and manage to speak Igbo sparingly
It is true that I can't be called a french man or an English man or an Ibibio man because of my proficiency in those languages
Definitely I am an Igbo man because that is my mother tongue irrespective of my poor vocalizations of the Igbo words

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Karnice600: 9:46pm On Jul 06
rigid123:
The Igbos actually don't care. It's high time those calling them Igbos desist, they have been ascribing too much importance to them which have made their heads to swell. What have they achieved that made them think that they are soo important? Nothing.

In Rivers state, they don't have anything. They are denying their root because of oil money and other benefits of oil rich region. They are so lazy, timid and unproductive. Their only trade is womanize, smoke and drink kaikai, nothing else they know or do.

The Igbos calling ikwere people Igbos are bringing shame to the igbo nation, this must stop henceforth. Ikweres are useless to the igbo nation today, tomorrow and forever. They have nothing to offer. The lazy Ikweres are not Igbos.

Keep quiet and be reasonable.
Why are these guys distancing themselves from the Igbos?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Halo22: 10:06pm On Jul 06
The unfortunate thing about Ikwerre and some of these Igbos in Rivers state is that they were deceived to the extent of denying their origin and ancestry. How can you be speaking same language with someone and answering similar name with the person and yet, u are still claiming u have no link with such person. Imagine an Etche man telling u that he is Etche man and not Igbo man. Is there any ethnic group in this country called Etche or Ikwerre? E go soon clear for their eye.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Donake: 10:23pm On Jul 06
Akwerille and Anyiekwerile, Market days which are cultural are Eke,Nkwo,Orie and Afor just as it is with those they deny, Ada is first daughter,Nwo/Nwa is child,Umu are children of, Omugwo is the event of taking care of the new born, Ejima remain twins, Uzo is road,Eze remains King which is the traditional title of community or clan leaders,

This convenience started between 1966 and 1970 towards the 80s because of the political oppression from ijaws with igbo speaking Rivers. Even Asari Dokubo who is a kalabari ijaw has spilled the truth.

The civil war originated these differences. Let them trace their origin to Ondo,they have cultural affinity and similarities with southeast and are igbos. Igbos are vast. They have them not limited to Abia,Imo,Enugu,Anambra,Ebonyi in lowerbasin Benue,igbanke Edo,Anioma Delta,Ekpeye/OgbaEgbemaNdoni/Etche/Omuma/Oyigbo/Ikwerre Rivers,Ogbia Bayelsa....They are in Southern Cameron and Gabon so they can deny themselves but the "curse of been igbos" follow them as far as they are still in Nigeria.

They should rest....

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Donake: 10:31pm On Jul 06
It actually started with the pogrom in the north and fear of extermination during the civil war,then worsened when ijaws stifled the, politically in the then Rivers(Rivers and Bayelsa) since the ijaws took sides with Nigerian forces earlier against Biafran forces. It isn't their fault they have been brainwashed since half a century and still choose same path.

Let's forget the names. The oldest leadership title Eze is king and remains so everywhere yet you lay claims to Benin who use Oba. Isn't it confusing and intriguing? They should just give up. There are more than 300 words and it's meaning that they share from the central igbo yet deny themselves. Even the Ekpeye that sounds most difficult to understand has Ada,Ubie,Oka,Umu,Ejima,Omugwo,Ucheyne,Ike,Ishi,Uka,Ugwo,Eluigwe,Uwa,Chineke and so on... What is all the twist and turn for? THE FULANIS SAW THIS AND USED YAKUBU GOWON TO ACT BUT IGBOS WOULD ONE DAY REUNITE.
Halo22:
The unfortunate thing about Ikwerre and some of these Igbos in Rivers state is that they were deceived to the extent of denying their origin and ancestry. How can you be speaking same language with someone and answering similar name with the person and yet, u are still claiming u have no link with such person. Imagine an Etche man telling u that he is Etche man and not Igbo man. Is there any ethnic group in this country called Etche or Ikwerre? E go soon clear for their eye.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by jamesversion: 10:32pm On Jul 06
So this thread don reach 18 pages. grin

Na wah oh. undecided

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Donake: 10:33pm On Jul 06
Do you have similar culture to the French,Ibibio and Arab?
biremi:
The assertion that the language that a person speak doesn't determine his tribal identify is correct but there is one exception to that rule
Your mother tongue definitely determine your tribal identify or else you are tribe less
For goodness sake you cannot separate your mother tongue from your tribe.
I speak french, English and Ibibio fluently and manage to speak Igbo sparingly
It is true that I can't be called a french man or an English man or an Ibibio man because of my proficiency in those languages
Definitely I am an Igbo man because that is my mother tongue irrespective of my poor vocalizations of the Igbo words
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Umuinyioku: 10:39pm On Jul 06
muhammaduyusufu:


https://punchng.com/ikwerres-deny-ancestral-affiliation-with-south-east/?amp
Rotimi Amaechi,is Ikwerre man. Ex Governor of Rivers State and Minister of Transportation under Buhari administration.

He is avowed Igbo Activist and a Chieftain of Ohanaeze Ndigbo. Very passionate about his Igbo ancestry.

Now, compare him with Nyesom Wike who has denied his ancestry.

Wike is the Brain behind all this denial. Ikwerre man is Igbo. They were part of present Abia and Imo states before creation of state by Gowon regime for political expediency. This is to lent fibre to prosecute the war.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Myhusband(m): 10:52pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:







Does what he wrote make sense to you? their wives change their language, culture, tradition, names and everything, have you heard of such thing before? use your God given brain grin grin


You're the senseless one here because you read if in my post



Someone that don't have brain is advising someone to use his, is that not a confusion
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Ever8090: 10:54pm On Jul 06
Fejoku:

The confusion in Ikwerreland is beyond belief. How can one claim to be siblings with other Igbo clans but deny "Ancestral link" with the same Igbo nation? Is Ngwa not Igbo? Is Etche not Igbo?
By this Punch publication, Ikwerre, Etche and Ngwa historically have the same father and mother. They have tied themselves to the Igbo nation by it. It's expected that they review this publication not long from now.
the desperation to force yourselves on Ikwere simply because they have crude oil in their land wont allow you guys read and understand what is boldly written, if the people who migrated from Benin and settled down in a place, they are still same people only the geographical location that have change..
In this case the ungwa and Echee people living in today's South east does not make them Igbos only their geographical location that has changed

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by subcbouy: 11:41pm On Jul 06
Gerhards:







See what you did to your brother and leader, two face tribe with slavery mentality coupled with coward nature grin grin
grin grin grin grin Why are you now crying about the Ikwerres grin grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by kingsclass: 11:59pm On Jul 06
opamoses1:

You are reading it upside down.



Iwhurohna, Etche and Ngwa all have Bini ancestry through their father Akalaka (a Bini man).
Is Akalaka a Bini name or Igbo name? I have tried to ask my Bini friends the meaning of Akalaka in Bini,and they told me there is nothing like that.In Igbo Akalaka means destiny,and people are still answering the name in Igboland till date.Even the European historians and anthropologists believe that there are so much distortions in our oral histories and that's why they never reply on it.Some tribes even will tell you that their progenitors descended from heaven,while some elderly men can distort their history with some bottles of gin and a few cash.Other one's can also re write their history for political reasons. best known to them.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Sniper101(m): 12:19am On Jul 07
LadyExcellency:
If Etche and Ngwas are Igbos then logically Ikwerres are Igbos.

ahh....this is the modified ad hominem:

How about you look at it this way too...

"Ikwerres are not Igbos, rather Igbos are Ikwerre"

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by rummmy: 12:49am On Jul 07
Akalaka efosa.... grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Whalis: 6:58am On Jul 07
Umuinyioku:
Rotimi Amaechi,is Ikwerre man. Ex Governor of Rivers State and Minister of Transportation under Buhari administration.

He is avowed Igbo Activist and a Chieftain of Ohanaeze Ndigbo. Very passionate about his Igbo ancestry.

Now, compare him with Nyesom Wike who has denied his ancestry.

Wike is the Brain behind all this denial. Ikwerre man is Igbo. They were part of present Abia and Imo states before creation of state by Gowon regime for political expediency. This is to lent fibre to prosecute the war.
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Amaechi has never said for one day he is Igbo. Amaechi said no one could deny him of his Igbos heritage. Heritage is different from ancestry. Google where Amaechi said he comes from when he visited the Deji of Akure. It is online. He said he is not Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba but he is Ikwerre.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 8:56am On Jul 07
Igbo has common boundary with akwa ibom and cross rivers,why are those ones not influenced also by the larger ethnic group close to them.
Establishment of Eze ndigbo outside Igbo land,,is just a leadership position that oversees the interest of all Igbos living at that particular area.
JudasNaKarrot:
You see, this is one of the very reason why the Igbo tribe is most hated in Nigeria and everywhere around the world. They go to a place, live with the people, use their cunning ways to warm themselves into the heart of the aboriginal owners of land, before you know it they have their own Eze this and Eze that first, then later begin to contest the kingship with owners of the land.
I know the Ikwerres very very well and I did a research on their ancestry. That ethnic group, no doubt speak a language much similar to the Igbos who are a much larger ethnic nationality.
As expected, the influence of the larger group will always overshadow the smaller one. Culture, marriage and trade, all are a determinant factor in shaping the society as it progresses. These events happen over a long period of time without someone noticing it.....hundreds of years.
The Aros of the present day Igbos are known to be from the present day Calabar. If he chooses to recognise his ancestry, is it a crime?

The Igbos should be more concerned on how to be united in their region and stop telling someone his own history just because he speaks a language similar to his.

Anambra man hates the Ebonyi and Imo State people. Abia and Imo don't like Enugu and Anambra people. Go and build your own home first before looking for someone to forcefully belong to you.
Who would like to identify with criminals who can kill their own parents just to get rich.



Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 9:00am On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Shut up Yoruba man what do you know about us bloody stranger.

grin but you know all about who is not from Lagos and who is from Ogbomosho grin we know hypocrisy is potent in the DNA of an average flatty grin you can gaslight others but once the table is turned against your ilks you start crying😂😂

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 9:04am On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
grin but you know all about who is not from Lagos and who is from Ogbomosho grin we know hypocrisy is potent in the DNA of an average flatty grin you can gaslight others but once the table is turned against your ilks you start crying😂😂

See this Kwara Muslim.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 9:21am On Jul 07
Why should they be an ethnic group
vacanci:


What they mean is that the Ngwa and Etche is not even part of South East but an extension of Ikwerre. All other Igbo areas are south East.

If Ngwa and Etche are sons of Ikwerre, then by extension those areas are Ikwerre and not the other way round
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 9:24am On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


See this Kwara Muslim.
😂😂pained loser, ikwerres have rejected your cursed tribe…accept it in good faith and stop crying….proudly Lagos cheesy if he pain you, you can hang yourself😂😂
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 9:53am On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂pained loser, ikwerres have rejected your cursed tribe…accept it in good faith and stop crying….proudly Lagos cheesy if he pain you, you can hang yourself😂😂

Shut up I'm from ngwaland we control out ikwere brothers did you read the news where he mentioned we are brothers animal Muslim from far away distance what concern you with a land you will never have a say..bloody parasite.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 10:35am On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Shut up I'm from ngwaland we control out ikwere brothers did you read the news where he mentioned we are brothers animal Muslim from far away distance what concern you with a land you will never have a say..bloody parasite.
grin ikwerres are not ibos…respect there wish and accept your rejection in peace, attaché my force grin….the same way it concerns your hypocritical flatty blodas when any news concerning obodo ragos cheesy pop up and it tickle your crazy obsession, is the same way it concern me now that, the ikwerres have always rejected your cursed tribe grin…nwokem, two can play the game, so accept your rejection in peace😂😂

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 10:56am On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
grin ikwerres are not ibos…respect there wish and accept your rejection in peace, attaché my force grin….the same way it concerns your hypocritical flatty blodas when any news concerning obodo ragos cheesy pop up and it tickle your crazy obsession, is the same way it concern me now that, the ikwerres have always rejected your cursed tribe grin…nwokem, two can play the game, so accept your rejection in peace😂😂

Shut up just like iworis and Lagos people are not Yorubas..

If you are not Igbos come and change their names and language blacky Muslim from waste.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by emmysoftyou: 11:07am On Jul 07
They shouldn't have mentioned ngwa , they have added more problems to the existing ones they have with their confusion on ground..
Ngwa can never denied their heritage, they're not confused like ikwerre..
Abi una want claims aba city?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 11:28am On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Shut up just like iworis and Lagos people are not Yorubas..

If you are not Igbos come and change their names and language blacky Muslim from waste.
😂😂😂hahhaa pained conquered slaves, show us where Awori came out and tell you they’re not Yorubas😂😂unlike ikwerres who have always rejected your cursed tribe…Yorubas don’t don’t do attaché by force like you savages😂😂😂continue crying 😂😂
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 12:10pm On Jul 07
[quote author=Remman post=130829464][/quote]
It was also married igbo women that changed your king's titties from oba* to Eze and igwe*
Is ikwerre that attaching themselves to Igbos.
How would you be bearing Eze, igwe, Amaechi, amadi, elechi and still be accusing Igbos of *attach by force grin grin grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by victory36(m): 12:10pm On Jul 07
opamoses1:

The Obi of Onitsha is ancestrally Bini. Argue with your keypad.
you are sick in the head. So every tribe in Nigeria is ancestrally bini? Same bini that is not even up to the population of ibibios.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by victory36(m): 12:12pm On Jul 07
Paraman:
IKwerres are not igbos.
keep deceiving yourselves. Imagine a man named adekunle denying to be yoruba
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 12:17pm On Jul 07
Gerhards:





He has disgraced himself out of this place, i don't even believe Ikwerre person would make such a comment apart from Ewedus who like to impersonate other tribes, it's their nature, the whole Nigeria know them very well, Ewedus are subhumans grin grin

It was also married igbo women that changed their king's titties from oba* to Eze and igwe*
Is it ikwerre that attaching themselves to Igbos. grin grin
How would you be bearing Eze, igwe, Amaechi, amadi, elechi and still be accusing Igbos of
*attach by force grin grin grin

You can't be Putin on red color and be accusing red house on forcing themselves on you. It is rather you that is Putin on red that attaching or forcing yourself to red house.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 12:58pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂😂hahhaa pained conquered slaves, show us where Awori came out and tell you they’re not Yorubas😂😂unlike ikwerres who have always rejected your cursed tribe…Yorubas don’t don’t do attaché by force like you savages😂😂😂continue crying 😂😂

Fulani slave from Kwara to Kogi Come speak ikwere na bastard.

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