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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 1:21pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Fulani slave from Kwara to Kogi Come speak ikwere na bastard.
😂😂now you have jumped to kwara and kogi….I know it’s hurt to be rejected but nwanne, it was prof elechi and the ikwerre elders that made the statement,😂😂direct your frustration at them, but you should respect there decision and accept your rejection in peace…it’s shameful that a grown adult should be crying bitterly like you are doing😂😂😂
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by muykem: 2:34pm On Jul 07
Orch1981:

Success bring envy
Yes but it doesn't bring enermy but friends even if it's eyes service. Everybody wants to associate with success not disassociate from it.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 3:00pm On Jul 07
Gajagojo:

That is Ibo logic

First of who is Ibo
How is that defined?
Was there ever a country called Ibo ?

Ibo is a creation of the British and Nigeria
Before Nigeria there was never a single group known as Ibo

That is the reality
Ngwa people never called themselves Ibos and actively denied being Ibos for decades
Aros DEFINITELY did not see themselves as Ibos and for verylong their main business was hunting and selling Ibos as slaves

Just like most Fulanis in Nigeria cannot speak Fulani and only speak Hausa

Hausa language does not make them Hausa


Hausa language is a lingua franca in Northern Nigeria
Just like English is lingua franca in Nigeria,the USA and Arabic language is in so many countries


You're mistaking Igbo for Ibo, we are talking of Igbo. If you can't pronounce it well, are you also finding it difficult to write it well?

How can British who can't pronounce Igbo tag us Igbo?

That is the reality
Ngwa people never called themselves Ibos and actively denied being Ibos for decades
Aros DEFINITELY did not see themselves as Ibos and for verylong their main business was hunting and selling Ibos as slaves


Your post is full of contradictions. Ngwa was selling Igbo people as slaves when the British never created Igbo first. who were the people calling themselves or see themselves as Igbo then?

Just like most Fulanis in Nigeria cannot speak Fulani and only speak Hausa



Fulani is a distinct ethnic group from Hausa, that's why they don't speak Hausa, they have their own language, they came all the way from Futajalon, they are not Hausa or related,

Igbo never colonized anyone. All Igbo groups speak Igbo dialects.

Igbo is also the umbrella/mother ethnic group that covers large Dark skinned Africans between West and Central Africa. Including minority groups in Central African countries like Southern Cameroon, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea etc. Igbo is their mother ethnic group. If an Ibibio man do his ancestry test in USA for eg, he/she will be told that he/she have so so so % of Igbo ancestry and so so so % of Central African ancestry.

Igbo is a major group in West Africa and is the largest Christan group in Africa.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 3:06pm On Jul 07
vacanci:


What they mean is that the Ngwa is not even part of South East but an extension of Ikwerre. All other Igbo areas are south East

If Ngwa and Etche are sons of Ikwerre, then by extension those areas are Ikwerre and not the other way round


What is South East?
South East of what?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 3:06pm On Jul 07
AnyanwuSK:




You're mistaking Igbo for Ibo, we are talking of Igbo. If you can't pronounce it well, are you also finding it difficult to write it well?

How can British who can't pronounce Igbo tag us Igbo?



Your post is full of contradictions. Ngwa was selling Igbo people as slaves when the British never created Igbo first. who were the people calling themselves or see themselves as Igbo then?




Fulani is a distinct ethnic group from Hausa, that's why they don't speak Hausa, they have their own language, they came all the way from Futajalon, they are not Hausa or related,

Igbo never colonized anyone. All Igbo groups speak Igbo dialects.

Igbo is also the umbrella/mother ethnic group that covers large Dark skinned Africans between West and Central Africa. Including minority groups in Central African countries like Southern Cameroon, Gabon, Equatorial Guinea etc. Igbo is their mother ethnic group. If an Ibibio man do his ancestry test in USA for eg, he/she will be told that he/she have so so so % of Igbo ancestry and so so so % of Central African ancestry.

Igbo is a major group in West Africa and is the largest Christan group in Africa.

Have you read Things Fall Apart?
Achebe. Wrote Ibo NOT Ibo

Was he confused?

Ikwerre is not a dialect it is a language on its own right

You are talking about a lot of irrelevant nonsense like largest Christian group in Africa
Who asked you?
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by AnyanwuSK: 4:10pm On Jul 07
Gajagojo:


Have you read Things Fall Apart?
Achebe. Wrote Ibo NOT Ibo

Was he confused?

Ikwerre is not a dialect it is a language on its own right

You are talking about a lot of irrelevant nonsense like largest Christian group in Africa
Who asked you?


Ibo is the English spelling of Igbo.

If you say the British created something and named it with another language they can't pronounce it's a silly statement.

I busted your lies and you said my post are irrelevant.

I'm telling you the ground that Igbo holds in sub- Sahara Africa and you're talking nonsense. The ground is religiously homogeneous.
Religion will count when the time comes,

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 4:14pm On Jul 07
Gajagojo:

Please help me understand how bearing Elechi makes a person Igbo
If you meet me in Lagos or abroad and i tell you that my name is Chibuike Amaechi,
What will you call me,,,*omo ibo* right?
Be sincere to yourself and God,,, what will you call me.
Even when that elechi from ikwerre makes comment that opposed your view here on nairaland,,,, upon sighting his Monika,,, *elechi, you'll starting tagging him IPOB, omo
heboe, flat head, druggie and all sort of derogatory language on Igbos.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by LOVEALAIGBO: 4:16pm On Jul 07
jamesversion:
So this thread don reach 18 pages. grin

Na wah oh. undecided

The quest by Igbo haters on this forum (who it turns out are mainly Yoruba and APC members for some funny reason) to shrink Igbo territory and ensure we have no outlet to the sea is what drives this thread and similar threads to many pages and run for days!

I have warned naive and trusting Igbo that Ndigbo can NEVER be safe, secure and have the freedom to develop at our own pace using our own resources for so long as we continue sharing the same country with certain people! Let’s keep on burying our heads in the sand and pretend we’re not sharing the same country with truly malevolent and wicked people who don’t wish us well!
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 4:34pm On Jul 07
DomPerignon:


When did Ikwere people attach themselves to you ?

You are confusing Ikwere for the ever confused Asaba people who will claim SS in the morning and be claiming Biafra in the evening.

Why did Ohaneze slate last year's Ibo day in
PH but will later move it to Owerri after massive protest by Ikwere leaders?

You are the ones dragging them and not them dragging you

Born liars

They're the one attaching themselves to Igbos.
If I'm ijaw and i give myself names (all my names) Yoruba, understands and speak Yoruba fluently. Is it the Yorubas that are attaching themselves to me or Am i the one
attaching myself to Yorubas.
Just as Africans are now leaving their language and culture to to study English (European) language, to sound English, to behave like English and to look like whites. Will we be blaming or accusing England of attaching themselves to us? Or are we not the ones forcing ourselves to be like them,,, speaking their language, bearing their names, culture.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 4:57pm On Jul 07
bixton:






I like this.
Imagine running just because of war to where is their proper and rightful land and left this who are the real owners to die and after the war they intend to return to claim what is not theirs......

The igbos apart from the fulani's are the only tribe trying to claim other peoples land even in this age of technology.

Ikwerre land has never been an igboland. Just as aba land is never an Owerri land, ohafia can never be umuahia people's land.
If there is war in Nigeria now, onicha people living in Owerri will run back to their villages, Owerri people living aba will run back to their villages, ogoni people living ikwerre will run back to their villages.
Even the next village to my village can't take our land or farm in our village land despite being brothers.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 5:13pm On Jul 07
Soliddust3030:
. Inter marriage over time, and you know the igbos migrate a lot and know how to influence the locals.
Why did they not do same with akwa ibom and cross rivers state that are also close to them.

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 5:19pm On Jul 07
oladipupo2234:

Many africas bear english name, but does that make you a British? And has any british threatened you to stop using their names?

Stop forcing people to be IGBO.

Africans were colonized by Europeans, so bearing and speaking European languages is understandable.
Did Igbos also colonize ikwerre people?

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Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 5:55pm On Jul 07
herich:

If you meet me in Lagos or abroad and i tell you that my name is Chibuike Amaechi,
What will you call me,,,*omo ibo* right?
Be sincere to yourself and God,,, what will you call me.
Even when that elechi from ikwerre makes comment that opposed your view here on nairaland,,,, upon sighting his Monika,,, *elechi, you'll starting tagging him IPOB, omo
heboe, flat head, druggie and all sort of derogatory language on Igbos.
sentiment
You don't know me or my level of exposure, education or sophistication
So with respect your assumptions are foolish
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 6:27pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂now you have jumped to kwara and kogi….I know it’s hurt to be rejected but nwanne, it was prof elechi and the ikwerre elders that made the statement,😂😂direct your frustration at them, but you should respect there decision and accept your rejection in peace…it’s shameful that a grown adult should be crying bitterly like you are doing😂😂😂

Who rejected who one mad man can't speak for whole Igbos...we are one unlike Yoruba Muslim and christians deal with your dividing house first what happen here in foreign land is none of your business bloody Fulani slave.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by RedboneSmith(m): 6:47pm On Jul 07
herich:

Africans were colonized by Europeans, so bearing and speaking European languages is understandable.
Did Igbos also colonize ikwerre people?

They never have an answer for this question.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 6:48pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Who rejected who one mad man can't speak for whole Igbos...we are one unlike Yoruba Muslim and christians deal with your dividing house first what happen here in foreign land is none of your business bloody Fulani slave.
😂😂see brother wey mumu….it’s you ibos that are agent of division that started that nonsense division tactic,with your usual Yoruba Muslim rethorics😂😂

Almost every yoruba family has mix religion and we are at peace with it😂😂but you cursed savages saw how united the Yorubas have always been, so you brought the nonsense Yoruba Muslim rethorics to try and divide us, but we wiser than you savages😂😂

Unlike in your cursed region, were you still practice Osu caste rubbish and other ibos sees and ebonyi man has lesser ibos😂😂very primitive cavemen, we don’t practice that nonsense here in Sw, we see ourself has equal, even in anambala some ibos of other sad yeast state were sack just because the don’t come from Anambala😂😂you are very primitive in your cursed region, that’s why it’s only ibos that live in that cursed region😂

Yorubas are proud people, even our kith and keen in north central have always associated themselves with the rest of the Yoruba tribe, unlike you cursed savages from Alaibo that ikwerres and other sub Igbo group have always rejected😂😂😂 no one want to be associated with a cursed and primitive people like you savages…..nwanne take your rejection in peace and stop crying, no be by force to be ibo Biko😂😂pretend to have some shame even though we know you lack shame😂😂

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 6:55pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂see brother wey mumu….it’s you ibos that are agent of division that started that nonsense division tactic,with your usual Yoruba Muslim rethorics😂😂

Almost every yoruba family has mix religion and we are at peace with it😂😂but you cursed savages saw how united the Yorubas have always been, so you brought the nonsense Yoruba Muslim rethorics to try and divide us, but we wiser than you savages😂😂

Unlike in your cursed region, were you still practice Osu caste rubbish and other ibos sees and ebonyi man has lesser ibos😂😂very primitive cavemen, we don’t practice that nonsense here in Sw, we see ourself has equal, even in anambala some ibos of other sad yeast state were sack just because the don’t come from Anambala😂😂you are very primitive in your cursed region, that’s why it’s only ibos that live in that cursed region😂

Yorubas are proud people, even our kith and keen in north central have always associated themselves with the rest of the Yoruba tribe, unlike you cursed savages from Alaibo that ikwerres and other sub Igbo group have always rejected😂😂😂 no one want to be associated with a cursed and primitive people like you savages…..nwanne take your rejection in peace and stop crying, no be by force to be ibo Biko😂😂pretend to have some shame even though we know you lack shame😂😂

Who get time to read what envious Yoruba Muslim type.

Come to rivers igboland everyone will see your foreign face yéyé people.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 6:58pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂see brother wey mumu….it’s you ibos that are agent of division that started that nonsense division tactic,with your usual Yoruba Muslim rethorics😂😂

Almost every yoruba family has mix religion and we are at peace with it😂😂but you cursed savages saw how united the Yorubas have always been, so you brought the nonsense Yoruba Muslim rethorics to try and divide us, but we wiser than you savages😂😂

Unlike in your cursed region, were you still practice Osu caste rubbish and other ibos sees and ebonyi man has lesser ibos😂😂very primitive cavemen, we don’t practice that nonsense here in Sw, we see ourself has equal, even in anambala some ibos of other sad yeast state were sack just because the don’t come from Anambala😂😂you are very primitive in your cursed region, that’s why it’s only ibos that live in that cursed region😂

Yorubas are proud people, even our kith and keen in north central have always associated themselves with the rest of the Yoruba tribe, unlike you cursed savages from Alaibo that ikwerres and other sub Igbo group have always rejected😂😂😂 no one want to be associated with a cursed and primitive people like you savages…..nwanne take your rejection in peace and stop crying, no be by force to be ibo Biko😂😂pretend to have some shame even though we know you lack shame😂😂

The Ikwerre (natively known as Iwhuruọhna) is an Igboid ethnic group in Rivers State, Nigeria.[1][2] The Ikwerre ethnic group in Rivers State, spans over four Local Government Areas; Port Harcourt, Obio Akpor, Ikwerre, and Emohua.. Pockets of the Ikwerre are found in Ohaji-Egbema LGA of Imo State.

IKWERRE

If that Page pain you go and add Yoruba there if you see taiwo shola and Mohamed there pained goat.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 7:02pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Who get time to read what envious Yoruba Muslim type.

Come to rivers igboland everyone will see your foreign face yéyé people.
😂😂you are in severe pain kpele…even wike dealt with you savages in oyinbo when you brought your ipob nonsense to rivers😂😂why are you not having your Monday sit at home in rivers if you have not been rejected😂😂

grin
You are now a laughing stock and a butt of all jokes to everyone, even minority tribes get level pass Una😂😂fuckin conquered slave, abeg take your rejection in peace…no one want to be associated with a cursed tribe, shameless pig😂😂

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 7:05pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂you are in severe pain kpele…even wike dealt with you savages in oyinbo when you brought your ipob nonsense to rivers😂😂why are you not having your Monday sit at home in rivers if you have not been rejected😂😂

grin
You are now a laughing stock and a butt of all jokes to everyone, even minority tribes get level pass Una😂😂fuckin conquered slave, abeg take your rejection in peace…no one want to be associated with a cursed tribe, shameless pig😂😂

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 7:12pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


The Ikwerre (natively known as Iwhuruọhna) is an Igboid ethnic group in Rivers State, Nigeria.[1][2] The Ikwerre ethnic group in Rivers State, spans over four Local Government Areas; Port Harcourt, Obio Akpor, Ikwerre, and Emohua.. Pockets of the Ikwerre are found in Ohaji-Egbema LGA of Imo State.

IKWERRE

If that Page pain you go and add Yoruba there if you see taiwo shola and Mohamed there pained goat.
😂😂😂you think am a petty illiterate trader like you grin I can also type that and post it to you 😂😂

We have heard it severally from the elders of ikwerre land and prof elechi also said it in there presentation, that they are not ibo grin even during my service year in owerri, I have a friend who is also ikwerre, and he told me clearly, that they are not ibo and a very distinct tribe😂😂Biko nwanne stop the forced attaché, it’s nauseating and irritating, even your ancestors will be rolling in their grave, seeing how low and inferior the present generation of ibos have descended to😂😂….ikwerres are not ibos, no be me talk am and they have not been saying it today, even wike told us he his not ibo😂😂abeg no be fight nwokem😂😂

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 7:28pm On Jul 07
[quote author=NgwalandAbia post=130843265][/quote]hahaha😂😂pained Okoro slave…I see you are exhausted…kpele get well soon from the rejection😂😂truly it hurts to be rejected, no one want to be ibo grin

Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 8:10pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂😂you think am a petty illiterate trader like you grin I can also type that and post it to you 😂😂

We have heard it severally from the elders of ikwerre land and prof elechi also said it in there presentation, that they are not ibo grin even during my service year in owerri, I have a friend who is also ikwerre, and he told me clearly, that they are not ibo and a very distinct tribe😂😂Biko nwanne stop the forced attaché, it’s nauseating and irritating, even your ancestors will be rolling in their grave, seeing how low and inferior the present generation of ibos have descended to😂😂….ikwerres are not ibos, no be me talk am and they have not been saying it today, even wike told us he his not ibo😂😂abeg no be fight nwokem😂😂

It's your useless father and mother who can't afford food Is responsible for your frustrations...why can't you come here to drag land Mumu Muslim Yoruba,you think here is your land na we get rivers and will die to defend it if you don't like go Bleach yourself or ask God to change your tribe jealous Mumu people.
Come and take rivers make we see don't stay in your conquer region to rant about what happens in our land.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 8:15pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


It's your useless father and mother who can't afford food Is responsible for your frustrations...why can't you come here to drag land Mumu Muslim Yoruba,you think here is your land na we get rivers and will die to defend it if you don't like go Bleach yourself or ask God to change your tribe jealous Mumu people.
Come and take rivers make we see don't stay in your conquer region to rant about what happens in our land.
😂😂😂 See mumu, you just a chest beater, what did your father do when wike sent you ipob miscreant from oyingbo back to your cursed land😂😂shameless pig…..why can’t you hold your Monday sit at home on rivers if na your papa born you😂😂😂just making empty noise, who no know Una before,empty chest beater😂😂
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by NgwalandAbia(m): 8:19pm On Jul 07
SonofLagos:
😂😂😂 See mumu, you just a chest beater, what did your father do when wike sent you ipob miscreant from oyingbo back to your cursed land😂😂shameless pig…..why can’t you hold your Monday sit at home on rivers if na your papa born you😂😂😂just making empty noise, who no know Una before,empty chest beater😂😂

Wike is Igbo don't let Igbo matter kill you frustrated slave of Fulani.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by SonofLagos: 8:23pm On Jul 07
NgwalandAbia:


Wike is Igbo don't let Igbo matter kill you frustrated slave of Fulani.
grin attaché by force grin wike have always rejected you savages,it’s a public knowledge nwokem grin he told us he his an ikwerre man and not ibo grin rejection is a hard pill to swallow nwokem grin accept it in peace and stop crying😂😂
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 8:38pm On Jul 07
Christlike01:


This is exactly what Giannis Adetokunbo's mother did! She taught all her Yoruba children Igbo language and change their mentality and worldviews to that of Igbo! That's exactly what the GRV's mother has successfully done. She brainwashed that fool to the extent that he hates himself - his own identity and heritage! The fool claims he doesn't even think in Yoruba;what a shame! It is the same thing Mrs Akeredolu of Ondo State is trying to do with
her children.


Given what we know about these Igbo women,I believe this your faction of the story. I think it's authentic. Ikwerres are not Igbo;they are a distinct ethnic group different from Igbo. Why won't I believe so when majority of these Igbo are already claiming and celebrating Giannis Adetokunbo,the Basketballer,as an Igbo man! Truly,Igbo people's attache by force is quite appalling.
So it was Igbo that changed their king's from bearing Oba to Eze,
Their deities as amadi, also changed binin calling of God as Chi or chukwu grin grin grin.. you guys are really dull
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 9:10pm On Jul 07
Gajagojo:
sentiment
You don't know me or my level of exposure, education or sophistication
So with respect your assumptions are foolish
You failed to answer my question because your prev comment was illogical grin grin.
How is your stup!d education and sophistication with nonsense education my business. Coward grin grin
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Probz(m): 9:14pm On Jul 07
RedboneSmith:


They never have an answer for this question.

Precisely.
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by Gajagojo: 10:07pm On Jul 07
herich:

You failed to answer my question because your prev comment was illogical grin grin.
How is your stup!d education and sophistication with nonsense education my business. Coward grin grin

Your question is a lunatic inquiry deserving contempt
Re: Ikwerres Deny Ancestral Affiliation With South-East by herich(m): 10:33am On Jul 08
Gajagojo:


Your question is a lunatic inquiry deserving contempt
On nairaland, if a Monika with *Elechi (from ikwerre) makes an opinion contrary to view, you'll call him IPOB, druggie, flat head etc. just a simple question,,,, You've been blowing blowing air since grin grin

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