Nyamiriflathed:

So Yoruba Muslim hate Igbos because igbos are Christians 😂😂😂

I am sure you know that many Yorubas Muslims are married to Christians and vice versa.

Yes, converting Yoruba Christians to Muslims is not even difficult to them, the difficult task is south east and south south, they knew it will never happen until end of this life, get it into your thick head

Paythemback:



Are you still angry about 3 million pig?

Abiola and Kudirat pay dearly for it by being killed like ERAN ILEYA, i know your father was part of those who killed both and shared their meat

Afonjananawerey:








Abiola and Kudirat pay dearly for it by being killed like ERAN ILEYA, i know your father was part of those who killed both and shared their meat

Abiola and kudirat equal to 3 million Igbo

Slytiger:

Murtala's coup consisting of Northern soldiers including Buhari, Abacha, Babangida, Danjuma and many others was a retaliation of the earlier coup in the same year consisting of majorly Ibo officers Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna, Anuforo e.t.c

And all of them became great honourable men in Nigeria just for being coup plotters

So why not Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna and the rest?

Yeah I forgot, it one rule for the North and another for the East

Paythemback:



Abiola and kudirat equal to 3 million Igbo

All die na die, what has changed after their death?

Coldie:

I gave you straight answers but when it was time for ur reply ur answers weren’t straight forward.

Anybody reading our posts, look at my reply to her, and look at hers which amongst the 2 of us looks like they came for truth?


Ojukwu has had many incidents where Nigerian government made promises and went back on their word. Nigerian government officials kept inviting ojukwu to different parts of Nigeria for meeting on resolving the crisis, ojukwu said he can meet on a neutral ground where his safety can be guaranteed.

They used their own hand and mouth invite person for meeting, the person honor meeting, they used their own hand make agreement, everyone settle. Immediately everyone went back home same people that called for meeting agreed refused to honour his own agreement. But it’s the fault of the person who didn’t do anything,

Igbos were not the only people killed in the north, the whole easterners were targeted, there was nothing like south east back then, ojukwu was military governor of the eastern region, so if ojukwu wants to secede his region, would ojukwu say ok as governor of eastern region I would carve out igbo land and secede with it? Does that make any sense to you?

Were the oil companies supposed to pay oil revenues in naira or Biafra pounds? At a time when war was lurking and any one of the nation can change its currency, which happened exactly as I just said?

So ojukwu was fighting a war of survival gowon own target was the oil and gas in the east?

But ojukwu is the bad person wow

😆 🤣 😂 lol......
You are so funny....

Stop playing the victims,pre 1967,there were killings of Ibo in the North and the Ibos equally retaliated and killed Hausa/Fulani living in the East. But as usual you will never admit this and try to play the victims.
Ojukwu was the first to instruct all the oil Companies like Shell that were based in Port Harcourt to start paying h revenue in American dollars. This led Gowon to declare total sea blockade of all access to the sea by the Navy.
As per the Aburi agreement there are a lot of write ups about it but you need to understand that Biafra and Nigeria represented by their leaders were trying to achieve the best deals for their side and obviously both parties to the agreement reneged on certain aspects of the agreement when they got back to their home Base.
I ask you what made Ojukwu declare the Biafra a sovereign nation when discussions were still going on?
What made Ojukwu tell the oil companies that the revenue should be paid to Biafra in American dollars? Was it not to procure weapons to fight a war?

Coldie:

Maybe I didn’t see it.

Can you help me answer it, it seems you know the answer

If you don't know that Ifeajuna and Nnamdi Azikiwe were kinsmen and cousins then I don't think you should be writing on the history of the January 1966 coup at all!
Go back and do a proper research or else we will school you on these threads...

Coldie:

I have said it before I have nothing against the north.

Your leader was killed you kill our own too.

It didn’t end there, you kill people that had nothing to do with it. You didn’t stop you kept on killing until the people decided to leave the country. You say come let’s settle let’s do an agreement, we go, meet, agree, shake hands and went home. You that said come let’s meet renegade on agreement we both agreed on, went to war massacred lots of our people, won the war.

I brought this for us to say the truth, talk ur own and convince me, u aren’t convincing anybody. But u are just saying am lying, even when I just proved that you are the one lying with ur photshopped pic

http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

confusedlady:


😆 🤣 😂 lol......
You are so funny....

Stop playing the victims,pre 1967,there were killings of Ibo in the North and the Ibos equally retaliated and killed Hausa/Fulani living in the East. But as usual you will never admit this and try to play the victims.
Ojukwu was the first to instruct all the oil Companies like Shell that were based in Port Harcourt to start paying h revenue in American dollars. This led Gowon to declare total sea blockade of all access to the sea by the Navy.
As per the Aburi agreement there are a lot of write ups about it but you need to understand that Biafra and Nigeria represented by their leaders were trying to achieve the best deals for their side and obviously both parties to the agreement reneged on certain aspects of the agreement when they got back to their home Base.
I ask you what made Ojukwu declare the Biafra a sovereign nation when discussions were still going on?
What made Ojukwu tell the oil companies that the revenue should be paid to Biafra in American dollars? Was it not to procure weapons to fight a war?

Your story is not straight forward it’s only when u want to ask me questions, that u come straight.

Reason is u hv doubts in what u say.


Tell us the part ojukwu renegeded on, the agreement is here: enlighten me :
Aburi accord is as follows:
"Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.
Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.
The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.[6]

Coldie:

Your story is not straight forward it’s only when u want to ask me questions, that u come straight.

Reason is u hv doubts in what u say.


Tell us the part ojukwu renegeded on, the agreement is here: enlighten me :
Aburi accord is as follows:
"Members agree that the legislative and executive authority of the Federal Military Government should remain in the Supreme Military Council, to which any decision affecting the whole country shall be referred for determination provided that where it is possible for a meeting to be held the matter requiring determination must be referred to military governors for their comment and concurrence.
Specifically, the council agreed that appointments to senior ranks in the police, diplomatic, and consular services as well as appointment to superscale posts in the federal civil service and the equivalent posts in the statutory corporation must be approved by the Supreme Military Council.
The regional members felt that all the decrees passed since January 15, 1966, and which detracted from previous powers and positions of regional governments, should be repealed if mutual confidence is to be restored.[6]

Yes, so what is the point you are trying to raise here.
Meetings of the Supreme military council were called but Odumegwu Ojukwu who as usual was stuck on his ways and agenda and refused to attend the meetings, citing security reasons. He claimed he was not safe in any part of Nigeria except the East.

mrvitalis:
Trust me Awolowo would have been no different from tinubu

Maybe the economic index might have been better but he is same as tinubu they have same mindset

In fact Awolowo is worse... He is the originator of this infrastructure virus socialist virus that have suffocated Nigeria

Awolowo might be less corrupt than tinubu but he is no different

Awolowo is a believer of feel good projects
The useless cocoahouse is prime example
A project to brag about but has zero economic benefits

Cocoa house till take has generated enough money to break even

I know you wish it was your tribe that had all those firsts
First Radio/ 📺 station
First stadium
First university
First TALLEST BUILDING

if all these were achieved by Azikwe will you still badmouth them? Hell no you won't.

Na that Jealousy, envy , that feeling that this should be you is the main reason igbos don't like yorubas

But we no send una, we are far greater than you in every aspect of life , the earlier you accept that the better for you because this is just the beginning.

gidgiddy:


And all of them became great honourable men in Nigeria just for being coup plotters

So why not Nzeogwu, Ifeajuna and the rest?

Yeah I forgot, it one rule for the North and another for the East

Ifeajuna was executed for planning another coup to overthrow Odumegwu Ojukwu in Biafra.

You should do a research on how Nzeogwu was buried by the Federal soldiers after he was killed at the war front.
As usual you are playing your games to suit your Ibo supremacist agenda....

EJEGBULEJE:

http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

Bro you are lying again. That link contains false narratives and propaganda.lol imagine this CLEAR LIE:

“ It is important to pint out at this juncture, that Nigeria had been very peaceful. A progressive, ethno-harmonious place, with the only riots of note being some election turmoil in the western Yoruba region of the country and Tiv riots in the Middle-Belt.”

You downplayed key things that would have exposed alot, the writer downplayed how the north had a hand in the western region crisis, tafawa balewa and Ahmadu bello to be precise. You writer downplayed how the crisis started from awolowo trying to make an alliance with the rest of the south, while akintola was trying to make an alliance with the north.
During this power struggle akintola was removed, after he is removal he went violent, after peace was restored he tried again, he went more violent the second time, despite it being an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos, tafawa balewa without due process declared state of emergency on the entire west then appointed someone to rule. During this process despite the fact that it was akintola who brought violence and destruction to the west, it was awolowo who was framed up arrested and charged for treason. Then sentenced to prison. At his absence these people did a sham election that saw Nigerias first massive rigging, violence and voters suppression and smhw same akintola that was the cause of all these carnage was put back in power, which cause major unrest in the whole west. Despite that the unrest had now spread from Lagos to the whole west tafawa balewa refused to declare a state of emergency, but declared it when it was an isolated incident in Lagos alone.

Naturally any smart person knows the whole thing was planned out.


With that look at the full details, observe how the writer from the link downplays this as much as possible and exaggerates igbo incidents.

Also it is worthy to note that after the first coup happened in the west, after akintola was killed calmness returned to the west.

I have told u before and I would say it again, everytime u bring up lies it makes anything u say look questionable.


The writer of that post doesn’t know what he is saying, that’s y majority of the rest of the article is a big lie

confusedlady:


Yes, so what is the point you are trying to raise here.
Meetings of the Supreme military council were called but Odumegwu Ojukwu who as usual was stuck on his ways and agenda and refused to attend the meetings, citing security reasons. He claimed he was not safe in any part of Nigeria except the East.

I asked you a question you did not, but u are explaining like you are trying to be dodgy.

I would repeat the question, you said both sides renegaded the agreement.

I write down the agreement and told you to tell which part ojukwu renegaded on, you are yet to tell me!

Coldie:
January 1966 coup took place that saw the deaths of prominent figures from all over Nigeria, Except the eastern region. All the coup plotters were southerners and majority were of Igbo extraction.

For decades I kept reading people make accusations and counter accusations of if it was an igbo coup or not. I decided to look deeper. My findings are as follows:

Many Nigerians don’t know this but at the time when Nigeria employed merit in alot of things, at a time when justice and fairness was the order of the day, at a time when Nigeria never spoil, when corruption was minimal, when we were able to be a prospering economy even without being an oil producing nation, Nigerians thrived but one stood out amongst all. The igbo man. This standing out brought envy, hatred and plots against the Igbos simply for just thriving in a fair system. I would explain as we go on.

The interior east was amongst the last places that education got to, northerners and westerners have been educated long before easterners. Northerners were educated in the Islamic way, whether it’s not the western or secular education, they already had the culture of learning, westerners were amongst the first to meet the British, education penetrated the west far before the east. But when education got to the east, the speed it was embraced was so much that westerners that originally were educated earlier, had to declare free education to catch up, it reached the extent that during the progroms in the north, how they identify an igbo man is speaking English. As a result of this education, it gave igbos an edge in an impartial and fair world run by the British. Many people don’t know this but before 1967 igbos/Easterners used to make up 60% of the army. This was because entry into the army in the past required that u have a certain level of education, and igbos had it in abundance then. Igbos not just made up majority in the army, Igbos held high offices in the army.

Naturally if you guys are a majority in the army and hold the major posts in the army, any thing happening in the army would involve you. The 5majors were wrong in truncating our democracy and ushering in a military regime that would cause problems down the line, but that’s a story for another day. My major work here is to explain why it might look as an igbo coup but it wasn’t intended to, they were right and they were wrong.

All the victims of the coups except the casualties like people whose wives were caught in the cross fire m, the victims smhw instigated their deaths. Though I wish it never happened.

Ahmadu bello, I support him on certain things and I am against many things he did, I support the norths stance on Nigeria not being ready for independence, I am against Ahmadu bello dividing Nigerians after independence, after independence Ahmadu bello did an interview, and he talked about igbo domination, in this interview: he says if there are 10labourers in a camp, and one is igbo, within a year the igbo man would try to emerge as head of the camp, he didn’t accuse the igbo man of trying to steal from the camp, how is an igbo man’s individual effort to succeed a bad thing according to him? This his remarks is part of what made him a target. The second one involves his participation in the western crisis. Here I would bring in Sir Akintola.

Sir Akintola was the premier of western region, at a time when they had their action group, while Obafemi swollen was of the opinion of extending the had of the west towards the rest of the south, Akintola was of the opinion that they extend it towards the north, during this period Akintola a power tussle between akintola abd swollen erupted and akintola ended up getting voted out of power. After he was removed from power him and his followers got violent and that was how the western crisis started. During this the federal government intervened, if u read up what I wrote above and even read up history, the antagonist here is Akintola, but what Tafawa balewa the then prime minister did was to arrest awolowo and charge him for treason, this is pure injustice. An election was done while awolowo was away and there was massive rigging, voters suppression and violence, the people that were seeing the people ontop do all those things while they followed orders were the military. And who make up majority of the military then “Igbos”. All these happened and Akintola was put back in power. This actions here was part of what I think made Akintola a target of the coup.

Sir Tafawa balewa, he was the prime minister the man at the top, tafawa balewa might be the man ontop but he was put there by Ahmadu bello, the votes that got him into power were from his npc party which was northern people party, which was the region Ahmadu bello ruled over. Tafawa balewa actions of declaring a state of emergency on the west over an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos which obafemi awolowo cried out against, his role in putting akintola back in power depute his atrocities and rigging of the western region elections, was what I think made him a target.

Sir festus Okotie eboh, back then the number one most attacked person on the media attacked by opposition [mainly the west] was festus eboh, reason is that he was the minister of finance and he was known for his extravagant lifestyle and had some corruption allegations against him, i think his name being the first poster boy for corruption was part of what made him a victim.

These above are the major victims of the 1966 coup. Everything I told you make ur personal research I can debate with anybody who thinks otherwise, make ur research and you would know they were guilty, only mistake those military officers made was taking laws into their hands.

The reason why there was no major igbo leader as victim.
Nnamdi azikiwe as at then was out of the country, Michael okpara then premier of the eastern region was not involved in the crisis. The crisis was a north/south west alliance push gone sour. So do you expect the young majors back then who thought they were fighting for Nigeria future, a future without tribalism and corruption, to just locate Sir Michael okpara and kill him for nothing just because they want the killing to be fair?

It has been said many times, it’s a fact, the coup plotters who survived said it many times, the original goal of their coup was to put Obafemi awolowo back in power, if this was an igbo agenda y would they go through such stress to put a non igbo into power? The major things those young military officers did back then was:
Taking matters into their hands, which was a big mistake, another mistake they did was killing, arresting the leaders should have been the last resort, but resorting to killing is what made things worst.

Say the truth?

The obvious fact is what you just penned down... It was even explained further by A.Ademoyega in his book Why We Struck

Coldie:
January 1966 coup took place that saw the deaths of prominent figures from all over Nigeria, Except the eastern region. All the coup plotters were southerners and majority were of Igbo extraction.

For decades I kept reading people make accusations and counter accusations of if it was an igbo coup or not. I decided to look deeper. My findings are as follows:

Many Nigerians don’t know this but at the time when Nigeria employed merit in alot of things, at a time when justice and fairness was the order of the day, at a time when Nigeria never spoil, when corruption was minimal, when we were able to be a prospering economy even without being an oil producing nation, Nigerians thrived but one stood out amongst all. The igbo man. This standing out brought envy, hatred and plots against the Igbos simply for just thriving in a fair system. I would explain as we go on.

The interior east was amongst the last places that education got to, northerners and westerners have been educated long before easterners. Northerners were educated in the Islamic way, whether it’s not the western or secular education, they already had the culture of learning, westerners were amongst the first to meet the British, education penetrated the west far before the east. But when education got to the east, the speed it was embraced was so much that westerners that originally were educated earlier, had to declare free education to catch up, it reached the extent that during the progroms in the north, how they identify an igbo man is speaking English. As a result of this education, it gave igbos an edge in an impartial and fair world run by the British. Many people don’t know this but before 1967 igbos/Easterners used to make up 60% of the army. This was because entry into the army in the past required that u have a certain level of education, and igbos had it in abundance then. Igbos not just made up majority in the army, Igbos held high offices in the army.

Naturally if you guys are a majority in the army and hold the major posts in the army, any thing happening in the army would involve you. The 5majors were wrong in truncating our democracy and ushering in a military regime that would cause problems down the line, but that’s a story for another day. My major work here is to explain why it might look as an igbo coup but it wasn’t intended to, they were right and they were wrong.

All the victims of the coups except the casualties like people whose wives were caught in the cross fire m, the victims smhw instigated their deaths. Though I wish it never happened.

Ahmadu bello, I support him on certain things and I am against many things he did, I support the norths stance on Nigeria not being ready for independence, I am against Ahmadu bello dividing Nigerians after independence, after independence Ahmadu bello did an interview, and he talked about igbo domination, in this interview: he says if there are 10labourers in a camp, and one is igbo, within a year the igbo man would try to emerge as head of the camp, he didn’t accuse the igbo man of trying to steal from the camp, how is an igbo man’s individual effort to succeed a bad thing according to him? This his remarks is part of what made him a target. The second one involves his participation in the western crisis. Here I would bring in Sir Akintola.

Sir Akintola was the premier of western region, at a time when they had their action group, while Obafemi swollen was of the opinion of extending the had of the west towards the rest of the south, Akintola was of the opinion that they extend it towards the north, during this period Akintola a power tussle between akintola abd swollen erupted and akintola ended up getting voted out of power. After he was removed from power him and his followers got violent and that was how the western crisis started. During this the federal government intervened, if u read up what I wrote above and even read up history, the antagonist here is Akintola, but what Tafawa balewa the then prime minister did was to arrest awolowo and charge him for treason, this is pure injustice. An election was done while awolowo was away and there was massive rigging, voters suppression and violence, the people that were seeing the people ontop do all those things while they followed orders were the military. And who make up majority of the military then “Igbos”. All these happened and Akintola was put back in power. This actions here was part of what I think made Akintola a target of the coup.

Sir Tafawa balewa, he was the prime minister the man at the top, tafawa balewa might be the man ontop but he was put there by Ahmadu bello, the votes that got him into power were from his npc party which was northern people party, which was the region Ahmadu bello ruled over. Tafawa balewa actions of declaring a state of emergency on the west over an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos which obafemi awolowo cried out against, his role in putting akintola back in power depute his atrocities and rigging of the western region elections, was what I think made him a target.

Sir festus Okotie eboh, back then the number one most attacked person on the media attacked by opposition [mainly the west] was festus eboh, reason is that he was the minister of finance and he was known for his extravagant lifestyle and had some corruption allegations against him, i think his name being the first poster boy for corruption was part of what made him a victim.

These above are the major victims of the 1966 coup. Everything I told you make ur personal research I can debate with anybody who thinks otherwise, make ur research and you would know they were guilty, only mistake those military officers made was taking laws into their hands.

The reason why there was no major igbo leader as victim.
Nnamdi azikiwe as at then was out of the country, Michael okpara then premier of the eastern region was not involved in the crisis. The crisis was a north/south west alliance push gone sour. So do you expect the young majors back then who thought they were fighting for Nigeria future, a future without tribalism and corruption, to just locate Sir Michael okpara and kill him for nothing just because they want the killing to be fair?

It has been said many times, it’s a fact, the coup plotters who survived said it many times, the original goal of their coup was to put Obafemi awolowo back in power, if this was an igbo agenda y would they go through such stress to put a non igbo into power? The major things those young military officers did back then was:
Taking matters into their hands, which was a big mistake, another mistake they did was killing, arresting the leaders should have been the last resort, but resorting to killing is what made things worst.

Say the truth?

You can see yourself. It's your type of reasoning that led to the counter coup and the civil war. How can you justify the killings of Sir Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa and others?
Nnamdi Azikwe was conviently on vacation and Mike Okpara was not part of the problem. You can see that you are in no way different from the coup plotters who conviently spared their kind men by hinting them of impending coup this allowing them all to escape.
SAD

EJEGBULEJE:

http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

Another lie exposed: and this is what you use as source: when it’s obviously lies and gaslighting:

“ Important to mention that Sardauna is often mispresented. Sardauna was not a leader of Nigeria but was only leader over the northern protectorate. So his statements were about his northern region, just as at the time Ojukwu made even more seditious statements about the eastern region he presided over. Sardauna’s utterances must be listened to in context of the then true Federation with three autonomous parts. Read more on this here.”

Observe how he tries to downplay the bad things sarduana did. at the birth of a new republic everybody is optimistic, the first thing a leader does is tu whip up ethnic sentiments and hate against others on world tv. If in Nigeria in this age, people find this clip bad, imagine the views of people from back then, in an era of ignorance.

I can say it to anybody with confidence, ojukwu said alot of things but I put it to the poster or anybody at all to mention one time ojukwu went on any interview to make any serdituous statement. The writer of the article was born in 1974, so he can’t lie and say he was alive during the war and was witnessing what was happening.

So where did he hear these seditious statements from?

Ojukwu has done many interviews which are in YouTube, anybody can judge, even at the peak of the civil war where people were dieing, he never used any bad word against anybody, neither was he seditious against any tribe.


Prove me wrong

Lifestone:

You can see yourself. It's your type of reasoning that led to the counter coup and the civil war. How can you justify the killings of Sir Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa and others?
Nnamdi Azikwe was conviently on vacation and Mike Okpara was not part of the problem. You can see that you are in no way different from the coup plotters who conviently spared their kind men by hinting them of impending coup this allowing them all to escape.
SAD

I am not justifying the reason for his death, I am trying to make an analysis of y they were targeted, that’s my views of how I think was the reason they targeted them. Especially at the heat of the western crisis which they were DIRECTLY responsible for.


If u remove sentiments did I lie?

Lifestone:

You can see yourself. It's your type of reasoning that led to the counter coup and the civil war. How can you justify the killings of Sir Ahmadu Bello, Tafawa Balewa and others?
Nnamdi Azikwe was conviently on vacation and Mike Okpara was not part of the problem. You can see that you are in no way different from the coup plotters who conviently spared their kind men by hinting them of impending coup this allowing them all to escape.
SAD

Why CAN'T you read well? 😏

The OP already explained that Balewa, Ahmadu Bello,Akintola and Okotie-Eboh were all Killed because they are Actual Cause of the Unrest we had in Nigeria then.😒

You expect the Coupists to Kill Azikiwe who held no Important office?
Or Michael Okpara who had no Business with anything at the Federal level?

historic:




The obvious fact is what you just penned down... It was even explained further by A.Ademoyega in his book Why We Struck

I have never read that book, this is my personal findings from deep research.

People are saying but Michael okpara want killed, Michael okpara had nothing to do with the western crisis, he had nothing to do with the violence in the west. Y then should they kill him.

VinnyBaba:


Why CAN'T you read well? 😏

The OP already explained that Balewa, Ahmadu Bello,Akintola and Okotie-Eboh were all Killed because they are Actual Cause of the Unrest we had in Nigeria then.😒

You expect the Coupists to Kill Azikiwe who held no Important office?
Or Michael Okpara who had no Business with anything at the Federal level?

It’s surprising.


Right now if today today a coup like that was to happen again, people be asking y they did not kill Peter obi?

It’s crazy

Coldie:
January 1966 coup took place that saw the deaths of prominent figures from all over Nigeria, Except the eastern region. All the coup plotters were southerners and majority were of Igbo extraction.

For decades I kept reading people make accusations and counter accusations of if it was an igbo coup or not. I decided to look deeper. My findings are as follows:

Many Nigerians don’t know this but at the time when Nigeria employed merit in alot of things, at a time when justice and fairness was the order of the day, at a time when Nigeria never spoil, when corruption was minimal, when we were able to be a prospering economy even without being an oil producing nation, Nigerians thrived but one stood out amongst all. The igbo man. This standing out brought envy, hatred and plots against the Igbos simply for just thriving in a fair system. I would explain as we go on.

The interior east was amongst the last places that education got to, northerners and westerners have been educated long before easterners. Northerners were educated in the Islamic way, whether it’s not the western or secular education, they already had the culture of learning, westerners were amongst the first to meet the British, education penetrated the west far before the east. But when education got to the east, the speed it was embraced was so much that westerners that originally were educated earlier, had to declare free education to catch up, it reached the extent that during the progroms in the north, how they identify an igbo man is speaking English. As a result of this education, it gave igbos an edge in an impartial and fair world run by the British. Many people don’t know this but before 1967 igbos/Easterners used to make up 60% of the army. This was because entry into the army in the past required that u have a certain level of education, and igbos had it in abundance then. Igbos not just made up majority in the army, Igbos held high offices in the army.

Naturally if you guys are a majority in the army and hold the major posts in the army, any thing happening in the army would involve you. The 5majors were wrong in truncating our democracy and ushering in a military regime that would cause problems down the line, but that’s a story for another day. My major work here is to explain why it might look as an igbo coup but it wasn’t intended to, they were right and they were wrong.

All the victims of the coups except the casualties like people whose wives were caught in the cross fire m, the victims smhw instigated their deaths. Though I wish it never happened.

Ahmadu bello, I support him on certain things and I am against many things he did, I support the norths stance on Nigeria not being ready for independence, I am against Ahmadu bello dividing Nigerians after independence, after independence Ahmadu bello did an interview, and he talked about igbo domination, in this interview: he says if there are 10labourers in a camp, and one is igbo, within a year the igbo man would try to emerge as head of the camp, he didn’t accuse the igbo man of trying to steal from the camp, how is an igbo man’s individual effort to succeed a bad thing according to him? This his remarks is part of what made him a target. The second one involves his participation in the western crisis. Here I would bring in Sir Akintola.

Sir Akintola was the premier of western region, at a time when they had their action group, while Obafemi swollen was of the opinion of extending the had of the west towards the rest of the south, Akintola was of the opinion that they extend it towards the north, during this period Akintola a power tussle between akintola abd swollen erupted and akintola ended up getting voted out of power. After he was removed from power him and his followers got violent and that was how the western crisis started. During this the federal government intervened, if u read up what I wrote above and even read up history, the antagonist here is Akintola, but what Tafawa balewa the then prime minister did was to arrest awolowo and charge him for treason, this is pure injustice. An election was done while awolowo was away and there was massive rigging, voters suppression and violence, the people that were seeing the people ontop do all those things while they followed orders were the military. And who make up majority of the military then “Igbos”. All these happened and Akintola was put back in power. This actions here was part of what I think made Akintola a target of the coup.

Sir Tafawa balewa, he was the prime minister the man at the top, tafawa balewa might be the man ontop but he was put there by Ahmadu bello, the votes that got him into power were from his npc party which was northern people party, which was the region Ahmadu bello ruled over. Tafawa balewa actions of declaring a state of emergency on the west over an isolated incident that happened only in Lagos which obafemi awolowo cried out against, his role in putting akintola back in power depute his atrocities and rigging of the western region elections, was what I think made him a target.

Sir festus Okotie eboh, back then the number one most attacked person on the media attacked by opposition [mainly the west] was festus eboh, reason is that he was the minister of finance and he was known for his extravagant lifestyle and had some corruption allegations against him, i think his name being the first poster boy for corruption was part of what made him a victim.

These above are the major victims of the 1966 coup. Everything I told you make ur personal research I can debate with anybody who thinks otherwise, make ur research and you would know they were guilty, only mistake those military officers made was taking laws into their hands.

The reason why there was no major igbo leader as victim.
Nnamdi azikiwe as at then was out of the country, Michael okpara then premier of the eastern region was not involved in the crisis. The crisis was a north/south west alliance push gone sour. So do you expect the young majors back then who thought they were fighting for Nigeria future, a future without tribalism and corruption, to just locate Sir Michael okpara and kill him for nothing just because they want the killing to be fair?

It has been said many times, it’s a fact, the coup plotters who survived said it many times, the original goal of their coup was to put Obafemi awolowo back in power, if this was an igbo agenda y would they go through such stress to put a non igbo into power? The major things those young military officers did back then was:
Taking matters into their hands, which was a big mistake, another mistake they did was killing, arresting the leaders should have been the last resort, but resorting to killing is what made things worst.

Say the truth?

I love this
Even though there are some inconsistencies
But a great analysis.
Though it's still unbelievable that majority igbo officers seek to put a yorubaman in position, but its quite possible.

I like the way you admitted mistakes and apportion blame , fair enough

But , it's still an igbo coup because as you yourself admit, no single igbo leader was killed , if you were not igbo, you will feel exactly how others feel

Difrent:


I know you wish it was your tribe that had all those firsts
First Radio/ 📺 station
First stadium
First university
First TALLEST BUILDING

if all these were achieved by Azikwe will you still badmouth them? Hell no you won't.

Na that Jealousy, envy , that feeling that this should be you is the main reason igbos don't like yorubas

But we no send una, we are far greater than you in every aspect of life , the earlier you accept that the better for you because this is just the beginning.

Why the f would I wish for that?

EJEGBULEJE:

http://newsrescue.com/genesis-the-beginning-of-north-south-hausa-igbo-beef-in-nigeria/#axzz3pOkUPdIu

Are you dis Daft, read the article here,and still call it lie ...your ppl instigated the Northerners to attack them, and u were killing them in the East too....is that why you are still killing them in the East till date in the name of Biafra

The Igbos will never admit they were wrong, so no need opening thread Upandan..

Here is another lie:

“ This triggered the first inter-ethnic crises in the North. Igbos fled to the East, and returned only later under guarantee of their safety by president Ironsi. Some say mischievous secessionist Igbos orchestrated the pogroms to get their people home”


Imagine where someone is blaming Igbos for the progrom killings in the north, that Igbos orchestrated the killings of thousands of not other people our own people not just once but twice, so that secession can occur. Just imagine the level of gaslighting lol.

mrvitalis:
Trust me Awolowo would have been no different from tinubu

Maybe the economic index might have been better but he is same as tinubu they have same mindset

In fact Awolowo is worse... He is the originator of this infrastructure virus socialist virus that have suffocated Nigeria

Awolowo might be less corrupt than tinubu but he is no different

Awolowo is a believer of feel good projects
The useless cocoahouse is prime example
A project to brag about but has zero economic benefits

Cocoa house till take has generated enough money to break even

Unfortunately for for you, more than 60yrs after Cocoa House was built in Ibadan, there is no single building that is as tall as half of CH in your entire godforsakenRegion. You must all run to SW to have a view of Skyscrapers.

Difrent:


I love this
Even though there are some inconsistencies
But a great analysis.
Though it's still unbelievable that majority igbo officers seek to put a yorubaman in position, but its quite possible.

I like the way you admitted mistakes and apportion blame , fair enough

But , it's still an igbo coup because as you yourself admit, no single igbo leader was killed , if you were not igbo, you will feel exactly how others feel

The actions of the first coup is why till today in Nigeria, especially struggles that cut across regions and geopolitical zones, killing is the last thing anybody ever does. They can keep you imprison for as much cause they know power is transient, but no one ever resorts to killings that easily.

That’s y even with what’s happening with Nnamdi Kanu they can’t kill him.

That’s y in future coups they hardly ever killed the head of state. Or leaders.

The major time a leader outside 1966 was killed was Murtala Muhammad, and I can tell you y I am not surprised he died. The karma of what he did in asaba came for him.

Difrent:


I love this
Even though there are some inconsistencies
But a great analysis.
Though it's still unbelievable that majority igbo officers seek to put a yorubaman in position, but its quite possible.

I like the way you admitted mistakes and apportion blame , fair enough

But , it's still an igbo coup because as you yourself admit, no single igbo leader was killed , if you were not igbo, you will feel exactly how others feel

Tell me the inconsistencies, I want to address it.

I want people to know the truth. One day somebody who really wants to know the truth would see this

VinnyBaba:


Why CAN'T you read well? 😏

The OP already explained that Balewa, Ahmadu Bello,Akintola and Okotie-Eboh were all Killed because they are Actual Cause of the Unrest we had in Nigeria then.😒

You expect the Coupists to Kill Azikiwe who held no Important office?
Or Michael Okpara who had no Business with anything at the Federal level?

You are making my arguments. How do you then account for the top Military Officers officers of Northern and Western lineage that were executed yet, Agonyi Iroson escaped. Man you are laughable.
This is the position of the Igbos that conflagrate the whole situation.

Coldie:

I am not justifying the reason for his death, I am trying to make an analysis of y they were targeted, that’s my views of how I think was the reason they targeted them. Especially at the heat of the western crisis which they were DIRECTLY responsible for.


If u remove sentiments did I lie?

Lol. I can understand why the war. Your argument is seriously annoying

Lifestone:

Lol. I can understand why the war. Your argument is seriously annoying

You and I know, war was the last thing the east wanted?


But I ask you, what other options did the east have?

Our people were being massacred and still being massacred and nothing was been done.

So what were we supposed to do?

Stay there and wait until the people killing us get tired of killing us?

Coldie:


One day am going to join ohaneze, if our people can listen to someone like me alot would change.


Our people owe awolowo an apology. Where we are wrong on awolowo. This is the reason I don’t go all out and prefer to block Yoruba ronu people than start insulting Yoruba tribe, every era every generation an awolowo and an akintola is born, if because of an akintola u start attacking every Yorubas u would stop future awolowos from being born. To me the best way to solve Yoruba ronu issue, is with love not by hate, ignore the Yoruba ronus and shower love to the true ones for the love they show to others. Allow the hateful ones to wallow in hate.


Before I digress: y I think Igbos owe obafemi awolowo an apology:

Back then information was limited, and deep thinkers were few who think things through.

Awolowo was sent to prison and charged with treason becaue he tried to form a southern alliance which we were part of. To me this is the first apology we owe him.

Second one: people say awolowo was responsible for the starvation policy, a war without starvation policy lasted over a year we were in misery and dieing a slower death and a war that starvation policy ended sooner.

Thirdly if it was left to some people after the civil war ended it’s go fvck urself, but awolowo made sure we were given some money to stand on our feet after the war ended, sth that was eventually known as the 20pounds saga. People say 20pounds and people just think 20pounds in 20 pounds, but what actually was the value of 20pounds back in 1970. That apart I beleive sth bigger was proposed but they ended up in 20pounds.

One last thing: the fact that when igbos returned to the west, their properties and assets were preserved and returned to them.


This made me have far much more respect for him.



Chief Obafemi Awolowo, if any of ur descendants are reading this just know igbos have ur respect. Some Igbos might have other views about him but I am a true igbo man and I say this to you.

I commend you for the work you've done in this thread but your stance on Awolowo is completely wrong in my opinion. The starvation policy didn't let the war end quickly. It was a very slow and painful death for those who perished that way. Many were children. I know of a woman who lost six of her nine children in that time (the three who survived were the youngest — the older children were giving them what little food they had).

To ask people to say sorry to the man who masterminded that is absolutely horrific. He was evil — plain and simple — and if he had any morals whatsoever then he would have apologised to the Igbos for what he did.

Lifestone:

You are making my arguments. How do you then account for the top Military Officers officers of Northern and Western lineage that were executed yet, Agonyi Iroson escaped. Man you are laughable.
This is the position of the Igbos that conflagrate the whole situation.

We are not saying anybody is innocent, we don’t have the full details, but am telling you what lead to those guys being the direct victims of the January 66 boys.

Aguiyi ironsi could have been an opportunist who used the opportunity to seize power.

That apart, from what I read and researched, most of the people who died from the coup knew there were rumours of an impending coup, but didn’t beleive anybody had the guts to do it.