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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 3:02pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


Simple jare. To advance another brand of religious organization made by man grin grin grin

Gbam! I am hearing that in the yet to be released August Watctower, they are changing the word Disfellowship to removed from the congregation. So, they are saying JWs should no longer use the word again. I asked, what is the difference? Will this prevent them from getting lashed by Governments for their destructive policies? How is this supposed to solve anything? This their GB brain cells don die finish. No single sense for their head. Lol.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:17pm On Jul 09
Courz:


Gbam! I am hearing that in the yet to be released August Watctower, they are changing the word Disfellowship to removed from the congregation. So, they are saying JWs should no longer use the word again. I asked, what is the difference? Will this prevent them from getting lashed by Governments for their destructive policies? How is this supposed to solve anything? This their GB brain cells don die finish. No single sense for their head. Lol.

August watchtower study that was delayed grin grin cheesy grin

Norway palaver hook their neck.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 4:14pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


August watchtower study that was delayed grin grin cheesy grin

Norway palaver hook their neck.

What happened in Norway?
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 4:21pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


The moment I realise that religious organization is conflicted or a conflict in the making internally and externally. I know my time right within it walls are up. Some of the members cannot breakdown what I meant is conflicted internally and externally paapaa. grin grin

Were you a witness?

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 4:28pm On Jul 09
Courz:


I left the Cult once I realised it is indeed a Cult and A Business masquerading as a Religion. There were a lot of things that never made sense to me as a JW but indoctrination put all of that behind. So, in my case, it was an accumulation of doubts over the years. I also heard about the Child Sexual abuse problems during a Watchtower study and asked myself why a so called One True Religion should be battling with Child sexual abuse when throughout its greater part of its existence, it kept pointing fingers at the Catholic church for the same thing. During the Watchtower study, it was stated that JWS are now free to report a child sexual abuse case to the authorities, meaning, JWS were really told not to report but are now free to do so. This part didn't sit well with me. So, I googled Jehovah's Witnesses and Child sexual abuse and lo and behold, several news stories of CSA were online with many of them reporting that JWs were never allowed to report to the authorities with some of them punished for doing so.

After seeing all that, I gave myself the permission to research this Cult. I told Almighty God that He should show me everything. I told him that I must know everything no matter how shocking or overwhelming it is I can handle it and he did just that. He is still doing so till now. I kept stumbling into so much info even till this moment. I saw testimonies revealing the Occultic side of the Religion. I told myself that if I should see evidence about this aspect of the Cult, I'm done with It and will leave with my mind, body and Soul. I saw lots of evidence. Sometimes the evidence find me. There is a part of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society that is not being discussed online that I stumbled into from an African American JW (not an EXJW) who has Freemason family members. What this JW told me made me realise this Cult is part and parcel of the World System, in fact they are the main world players in the way the world is run.

I left once I saw the Occultic side of JW.

What's wrong with occultism?

And do you attend any other church now?

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:05pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


Were you a witness?

I know my time right within it walls are up.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:06pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


What happened in Norway?

A simple search Jehovah's Witnesses and Norway will tell you the whole story.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 5:08pm On Jul 09
Courz:


I left the Cult once I realised it is indeed a Cult and A Business masquerading as a Religion. There were a lot of things that never made sense to me as a JW but indoctrination put all of that behind. So, in my case, it was an accumulation of doubts over the years. I also heard about the Child Sexual abuse problems during a Watchtower study and asked myself why a so called One True Religion should be battling with Child sexual abuse when throughout its greater part of its existence, it kept pointing fingers at the Catholic church for the same thing. During the Watchtower study, it was stated that JWS are now free to report a child sexual abuse case to the authorities, meaning, JWS were really told not to report but are now free to do so. This part didn't sit well with me. So, I googled Jehovah's Witnesses and Child sexual abuse and lo and behold, several news stories of CSA were online with many of them reporting that JWs were never allowed to report to the authorities with some of them punished for doing so.

After seeing all that, I gave myself the permission to research this Cult. I told Almighty God that He should show me everything. I told him that I must know everything no matter how shocking or overwhelming it is I can handle it and he did just that. He is still doing so till now. I kept stumbling into so much info even till this moment. I saw testimonies revealing the Occultic side of the Religion. I told myself that if I should see evidence about this aspect of the Cult, I'm done with It and will leave with my mind, body and Soul. I saw lots of evidence. Sometimes the evidence find me. There is a part of Watchtower Bible and Tract Society that is not being discussed online that I stumbled into from an African American JW (not an EXJW) who has Freemason family members. What this JW told me made me realise this Cult is part and parcel of the World System, in fact they are the main world players in the way the world is run.

I left once I saw the Occultic side of JW.

What did they try to achieve anytime they point accusing fingers at the Catholic Church for clerical abuse?
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 5:15pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


I know my time right within it walls are up.


I see. But you would not like to tell me what were you attend now?

Also, in the Kingdom Halls and in Jehovah's witness' families, do you sometimes have members who ask questions about the beliefs? Do you sometimes have those people who would be considered 'woke'; that is: those who think are mire like rebels and would not want to be associated with anything JW but are still interested in Christianity and worship in other churches? Did you have memers who go to the Kingdom Halls only when they are at home but will switch to other type of christianity as soon as they go to school (boarding house of campus)?
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 5:59pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


I see. But you would not like to tell me what were you attend now?

Also, in the Kingdom Halls and in Jehovah's witness' families, do you sometimes have members who ask questions about the beliefs? Do you sometimes have those people who would be considered 'woke'; that is: those who think are mire like rebels and would not want to be associated with anything JW but are still interested in Christianity and worship in other churches? Did you have memers who go to the Kingdom Halls only when they are at home but will switch to other type of christianity as soon as they go to school (boarding house of campus)?

Now you get....

I see.

Better.

But you would not like to tell me what were you attend now?

I didn't leave to go and exchange more conflicted or a conflict in the making internally and externally of another religious organization.

Also, in the Kingdom Halls and in Jehovah's witness' families, do you sometimes have members who ask questions about the beliefs?

Thousands of them do. When you read their publications with the heading our readers ask. Just know their leadership aka Governing body deem it fit to address questions that had been sent repeatedly to them over certain issues.

Do you sometimes have those people who would be considered 'woke'; that is: those who think are more like rebels and would not want to be associated with anything JW but are still interested in Christianity and worship in other churches?

They do have the faders, the physically in mentally(PIMO) out members are in the thousands too hanging based on social support and circle they will lose when they choose to leave based on their process and procedures.

Did you have members who go to the Kingdom Halls only when they are at home but will switch to other type of christianity as soon as they go to school (boarding house of campus)?

We have had cases of them going to church behind the back of their parents even while at home how much more while they are far away from the eyes of their parents.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:05pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


What did they try to achieve anytime they point accusing fingers at the Catholic Church for clerical abuse?

The roman Catholic is the prime example of anything called Satan's organisation in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are the prime example of whatever they want to use as false Christians.

The problem they have is that the very thing they say the Catholic does that makes it empire of false religion is the very same thing they do and say they are the only true religion doing God's will.

That's why some says community delusions exist in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 6:17pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


The roman Catholic is the prime example of anything called Satan's organisation in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are the prime example of whatever they want to use as false Christians.

The problem they have is that the very thing they say the Catholic does that makes it empire of false religion is the very same thing they do and say they are the only true religion doing God's will.

That's why some says community delusions exist in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin

Gbam. Anything Jehovah's Witnesses have accused other religions of doing, they are doing the exact same thing. A Thief calling others thieves.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 6:20pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


The roman Catholic is the prime example of anything called Satan's organisation in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are the prime example of whatever they want to use as false Christians.

The problem they have is that the very thing they say the Catholic does that makes it empire of false religion is the very same thing they do and say they are the only true religion doing God's will.

That's why some says community delusions exist in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin

Its inevitable, right? Even the blind saw it coming.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 6:23pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


What did they try to achieve anytime they point accusing fingers at the Catholic Church for clerical abuse?

They are trying to divert the attention of the gullible away from themselves by pointing fingers at others. Jehovah's Witnesses are like armed robbers accusing other robbers of the same sin. That's all. Bring down the reputation of others to make yourself look good and credible. It works well for the gullible. A manipulation tactic.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 6:26pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


What's wrong with occultism?

And do you attend any other church now?

Are you into the Occult for you to ask what is wrong with it?

I am Non dominational. I attend any church that is rooted in the Bible. Restriction to a particular church isn't what Jesus taught. I am Non denominational in order to focus solely on Jesus.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 6:27pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


The roman Catholic is the prime example of anything called Satan's organisation in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. They are the prime example of whatever they want to use as false Christians.

The problem they have is that the very thing they say the Catholic does that makes it empire of false religion is the very same thing they do and say they are the only true religion doing God's will.

That's why some says community delusions exist in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses grin grin grin grin

Apart from them thinking it is the exact definition of satanism, do you think they feel they had a score to settle with the Catholic Church? Because I KNOW FOR A FACT, THE SORT OF ANTAGONISM JW HAS AGAINST THE CATHOKIC CHURCH IN PARTICULAR.

To be fair, it is not just the Catholic church theu go up against as they also take up issues with the Eastern Orthodox Churches. But to be fair and honest, they were more concerned about the Roman Catholic church. Do you think there is a certain amount of jealousy in the minds of the organization towards the catholic church for its reach and the strength of its membership? I may be wrong but that's how they come-off to me when I read their publications in those days.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 6:30pm On Jul 09
Courz:


Are you into the Occult for you to ask what is wrong with it?

I am Non dominational. I attend any church that is rooted in the Bible. Restriction to a particular church isn't what Jesus taught. I am Non denominational in order to focus solely on Jesus.

I am a Rosicrucian Student and so far, I cannot see anything wrong with what is studied in the organization. I get the feeling Freemasonry is the same. Although, I think AMORC delves into more arcane knowledge than Freemasonry. There is a lot of socialization in Freemasonry more than you have in AMORC.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 6:31pm On Jul 09
Courz:


They are trying to divert the attention of the gullible away from themselves by pointing fingers at others. Jehovah's Witnesses are like armed robbers accusing other robbers of the same sin. That's all. Bring down the reputation of others to make yourself look good and credible. It works well for the gullible. A manipulation tactic.

I pointed this out to MaxInDHouse in a different thread.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:36pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


Its inevitable, right? Even the blind saw it coming.

Hmmmmmm it took years for many to see it for some.

The danger is the concept that God has an organization. The concept ORGANIZATION wrapped in self righteousness that every other thing outside of their is of the Devil. Any other organization apart from what they call Jehovah's organization is called Satan's organisation. The very same thing Satan's organisation does is what they do and yet want everyone to see them as being Jehovah's organization.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:37pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


I pointed this out to MaxInDHouse in a different thread.

That really interesting.
Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 6:40pm On Jul 09
Courz:


They are trying to divert the attention of the gullible away from themselves by pointing fingers at others. Jehovah's Witnesses are like armed robbers accusing other robbers of the same sin. That's all. Bring down the reputation of others to make yourself look good and credible. It works well for the gullible. A manipulation tactic.

Hide what they know are terrible in their midst, show the good ones and badmouth the others competing with them grin grin grin grin

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 6:45pm On Jul 09
achorladey:


Hide what they know are terrible in their midst, show the good ones and badmouth the others competing with them grin grin grin grin

Exactly. The Motto of Jehovah's Witnesses is Hide what is negative and only talk about what is positive even if the positive is manufactured and delusional that has been repeated over and over again during Brainwashing sessions.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by MiddleDimension: 7:28pm On Jul 09

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:39pm On Jul 09
MiddleDimension:


You may want to have a look

https://www.nairaland.com/7376282/christ-embassy-members-still-believe#130808605

Superb work over there. You really try in your response.

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Courz: 11:51am On Jul 15

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 12:10pm On Aug 15
The spirit they exhibited when the religious organization started and still running till today...

The envious person may resort to fraud, robbery or other dishonest means to get what others have. Or, he may downgrade the one whom he envies, minimizing the accomplishments of that one by undue criticism or by calling into question his abilities and motives. The tendency to envy keeps pushing sinful humans in the wrong direction. From the surface appearance, a man may work very hard and"efficiently. However, envy may be prompting him to attain what others have and even to surpass them. This produces rivalry


The reason their members on nairaland today keeps looking for better performing performance group religious group

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by Everyday247: 12:19pm On Aug 15
achorladey:
The spirit they exhibited when the religious organization started and still running till today...

The envious person may resort to fraud, robbery or other dishonest means to get what others have. Or, he may downgrade the one whom he envies, minimizing the accomplishments of that one by undue criticism or by calling into question his abilities and motives. The tendency to envy keeps pushing sinful humans in the wrong direction. From the surface appearance, a man may work very hard and"efficiently. However, envy may be prompting him to attain what others have and even to surpass them. This produces rivalry


The reason their members on nairaland today keeps looking for better performing performance group religious group
This just how MaxInDHouse behaves. grin grin grin
That fellow even told me that every other Christian denominations are fake, and that the only true Christians today are members of his cult. Very delusional fellow. grin

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 1:49pm On Aug 15
Everyday247:
This just how MaxInDHouse behaves. grin grin grin
That fellow even told me that every other Christian denominations are fake, and that the only true Christians today are members of his cult. Very delusional fellow. grin

You too sabi am reach that level grin grin grin grin.

To those of us who have been there and left we know what it means to go to their meetings and be told repeatedly every meeting day that nothing out there called religious or religious organization does what please God. To them they are all other Christians are false Christians(English) lie lie Christians(pidgin)

I summarize their case reach this level...... they choose to remain separate and ended up in the realm of pharisees

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:41pm On Aug 18
Their 20th Century ended in year 1999. We are 24 years into the 21st century. God indeed frustrates falsehood and false prophecies


The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."

Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19

"Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!"

"Let Your Kingdom Come" (1981) p.102

"But now in our 20th century, we have come to the time for harvest "a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels"!"

Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12

"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."

Now in our day 20th and 21st century, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux

You should Gary

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 10:37pm On Aug 18
achorladey:
Their 20th Century ended in year 1999. We are 24 years into the 21st century. God indeed frustrates falsehood and false prophecies


The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah p. 216

"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."

Watchtower 1984 Mar 1 pp.18-19

"Some of that "generation" could survive until the end of the century. But there are many indications that "the end" is much closer than that!"

"Let Your Kingdom Come" (1981) p.102

"But now in our 20th century, we have come to the time for harvest "a conclusion of a system of things, and the reapers are angels"!"

Watchtower 1989 Jan 1 p.12

"He was laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century."

Now in our day 20th and 21st century, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux

You should Gary

You should Gary

smiley funny

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 10:41pm On Aug 18
johnw47:


You should Gary

smiley funny


That's how lost Gary really is with the use of absolute in his words

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Re: A Thread For Former Nigerian Jehovah's Witnesses by johnw47: 10:51pm On Aug 18
achorladey:


Now in our day 20th and 21st century, there is another group of men that are sitting at one table, they never lie or deceive us. We can have absolute trust in the Governing Body........Gary Breaux

the governing body will never lie or deceive them:

What Watchtower said
prior to 1914


"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

"But bear in mind that the end of 1914 is not the date for the beginning, but for the end of the time of trouble. Zion's Watch Tower 1894 Jul 15 p.226


What Watchtower claims it said
prior to 1914


"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

"Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things." Awake! 1973 Jan 22 p.8




false jw's are such liars and deceivers
even lying to and deceiving each other
taking after their father the devil, of course

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