Jamiuokolla:
Before you assess with Vetasses or any other relevant body, try and simulate to get your points so as not to waste money.

For most occupations, don't bother if you do not have at least 85 points...

Thus is wrong. When I was applying, my point was 65, with state point, before I managed to get 10 in PTE. Nomination points was at 85/ 90 then, even NSW reel out 105 as minimum points for my occupation. But in a twist of fate, 189 came, and everyone from 65 points got nominated for 189. 30,000 invitation was given out. Then all states were trying to attract the rest, that same NSW slashed their point to 65 points 3 months later, and people were even rejecting 491.
So there is no harm in trying, today I have my visa.

DJMJ:


Thus is wrong. When I was applying, my point was 65, with state point, before I managed to get 10 in PTE. Nomination points was at 85/ 90 then, even NSW reel out 105 as minimum points for my occupation. But in a twist of fate, 189 came, and everyone from 65 points got nominated for 189. 30,000 invitation was given out. Then all states were trying to attract the rest, that same NSW slashed their point to 65 points 3 months later, and people were even rejecting 491.
So there is no harm in trying, today I have my visa.

If you check my post, I clearly stated "some occupations".

If you check link below, you would see points that were invited for various occupations in the latest 189 round.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

With the current exchange rate, Skills assessment money isn't cheap, unless of course one is financially buoyant enough to take uncalculated risks.

Bottom line is that the focus should be on increasing ones points

If I may ask, what's your occupation and when did you get your invite?

@DJMJ,

Congratulations

I intend to start my Australian pr journey here is my qualification. Pls how do I start ?

Age : 29
Degree : B.tech and M.sc in Architecture
Work experience : 3 years as an Associate Architect

@tunlex01 @bellong

bellong:
@DJMJ,

Congratulations

Thanks my Oga.
Kudos to you @bellong & @tunlex.
Without you two there won't be a story. I got most of my info here and now it's history. Hope to meet you two one day.

Jamiuokolla:


If you check my post, I clearly stated "some occupations".

If you check link below, you would see points that were invited for various occupations in the latest 189 round.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/working-in-australia/skillselect/invitation-rounds

With the current exchange rate, Skills assessment money isn't cheap, unless of course one is financially buoyant enough to take uncalculated risks.

Bottom line is that the focus should be on increasing ones points

If I may ask, what's your occupation and when did you get your invite?

Am not castigating you. Just want to encourage people to try if that's what they are convinced it's the ambition.
I wrote my last PTE 2 months to my 45th, and applied for invitations 2 weeks to 45th birthday. And today, I have my grant.
I got nomination in 2022.
In all, what I was pointing out is not to get discouraged with recent trend, anything can happen at any time.
Theresa's a friend that missed the chance I got cause he gave up too early, when the opportunity beckoned, all his papers were expired.
Hope you understand my point

DJMJ:


Am not castigating you. Just want to encourage people to try if that's what they are convinced it's the ambition.
I wrote my last PTE 2 months to my 45th, and applied for invitations 2 weeks to 45th birthday. And today, I have my grant.
I got nomination in 2022.
In all, what I was pointing out is not to get discouraged with recent trend, anything can happen at any time.
Theresa's a friend that missed the chance I got cause he gave up too early, when the opportunity beckoned, all his papers were expired.
Hope you understand my point

This is the point bro - a whole lot has changed since that time.

I know lots of people that received 190 invites..even with 65 points as at last year.

Nowadays, it's a whole lot more competitive...even for priority occupations like Teachers and Nurses.

As we speak, the slots for 189 this Financial year is half of last year's allocation.

The competition no be here baba.

Lots of onshore candidates with high points are waiting for invitations... nothing.

Not as if I am being antagonistic but with the way things are currently, it's better to check well before spending huge sums of money on skills assessment

frankmoney:
I intend to start my Australian pr journey here is my qualification. Pls how do I start ?

Age : 29
Degree : B.tech and M.sc in Architecture
Work experience : 3 years as an Associate Architect

@tunlex01 @bellong

You start by reading the first few pages of this thread. All the information you need are there

Jamiuokolla:


This is the point bro - a whole lot has changed since that time.

I know lots of people that received 190 invites..even with 65 points as at last year.

Nowadays, it's a whole lot more competitive...even for priority occupations like Teachers and Nurses.

As we speak, the slots for 189 this Financial year is half of last year's allocation.

The competition no be here baba.

Lots of onshore candidates with high points are waiting for invitations... nothing.

Not as if I am being antagonistic but with the way things are currently, it's better to check well before spending huge sums of money on skills assessment

Yes, the competiton is tough but it is due to Immigration becoming a main topic topic in the election run ups.
After the elections , immigration topic will fizzle out slowly, and maybe the points may reduce.
So you never can tell. Just apply and hope for the best.
Besides you are not paying the visa fee unitl you get Invitiation to apply.

Pweety3333:


I work with an oil and Gas firm as an accountant

how is oil & gas related to finance broker?

Pweety3333:


But if we don’t wait we won’t be able to claim the 3 year work experience as I believe vet access will deduct from his cure 3 years leaving him with 2 years work experience because he will have to use Unilag since it is a tier 1 school as the Job is a Group A work too

How do I explain this?

You experience continues to count if you are still in the same occupation after the Vetassess result. So if you wait till 4 years, you are delaying your assessment. You can assess, get whatever is deducted, lodge EOI and the experience still continues to count and when it's 3 years, the point automatically increases/ People without 3 years experience also get nominated.
Note that, you cannot get nomination without first doing the skills assessment and lodging EOI. A stitch in time saves nine.

TADETORO099:
General details
Location: LAGOS
Age: 29
English test result:SPEAKING-6.5 WRITING-6 LISTENING-7 READING-6.5
Tertiary Educational qualifications with DATES: BSC
What was the duration of your course? 5 years
Course of study: AGRICULTURAL ECONOMICS
Awarding Institution(s): OSUN STATE UNIVERSITY
List any other relevant professional certifications/registration:

Employment
Job title(s): CUSTOMER SERVICE OFFICER
Job period: (2019 TILL DATE
Years of experience:5
Proposed occupation(s) to nominate and ANZSCO 6-digit code (do not skip this step; the guide to check your occupation(s) is at the end of this post)

Documents for Employee
Employment letter: Yes
Payslips: Yes
Bank statement showing salary: Yes
Pension statement: Yes
Personal Tax statement: Yes
Can you get a reference letter? Yes
Do you have these documents for all your employment episodes?

Your relationship status: Married
HUSBAND
General details
Location: LAGOS
Age: 30
English test result:
Tertiary Educational qualifications with DATES: BSC
What was the duration of your course? 4 years
Course of study: HUMAN KINETICS AND HEALTH EDUCTION
Awarding Institution(s): TAISOLARIN UNIVERSITY OF EDUCATION
List any other relevant professional certifications/registration:

Employment
Job title(s): AREA SALES MANAGER(FMCG)
Job period: (2019 TILL DATE
Years of experience:5
Proposed occupation(s) to nominate and ANZSCO 6-digit code (do not skip this step; the guide to check your occupation(s) is at the end of this post)

Documents for Employee
Employment letter: Yes
Payslips: Yes
Bank statement showing salary: Yes
Pension statement: Yes
Personal Tax statement: Yes
Can you get a reference letter? Yes
Do you have these documents for all your employment episodes?

Your relationship status: Married

There is no Customer service officer on the occupation list. You n eed to be a manager or head of department.

For your spouse, does he have managers reporting to him? does he report directly to the CEO? If yes, how long has he been reporting to the CEO

Jamiuokolla:
Before you assess with Vetasses or any other relevant body, try and simulate to get your points so as not to waste money.

For most occupations, don't bother if you do not have at least 85 points...

Where did you get this info from?

DJMJ:


Thus is wrong. When I was applying, my point was 65, with state point, before I managed to get 10 in PTE. Nomination points was at 85/ 90 then, even NSW reel out 105 as minimum points for my occupation. But in a twist of fate, 189 came, and everyone from 65 points got nominated for 189. 30,000 invitation was given out. Then all states were trying to attract the rest, that same NSW slashed their point to 65 points 3 months later, and people were even rejecting 491.
So there is no harm in trying, today I have my visa.

Thank you o!

NOmination requirements are not even released, so i'm wondering where the 85 came from

Jamiuokolla:


This is the point bro - a whole lot has changed since that time.

I know lots of people that received 190 invites..even with 65 points as at last year.

Nowadays, it's a whole lot more competitive...even for priority occupations like Teachers and Nurses.

As we speak, the slots for 189 this Financial year is half of last year's allocation.

The competition no be here baba.

Lots of onshore candidates with high points are waiting for invitations... nothing.

Not as if I am being antagonistic but with the way things are currently, it's better to check well before spending huge sums of money on skills assessment

This year (2024 not 2023), I have seen 65 for 190 and 491 invitations. Also, the link you posted above is only for 189. People were clinching 491 and 190 in the state with points as low as 65 and high as 105.

It's all about the state requirements and occupation. Let everyone do what they are convinced about.

tunlex01:

This year (2024 not 2023), I have seen 65 for 190 and 491 invitations. Also, the link you posted above is only for 189. People were clinching 491 and 190 in the state with points as low as 65 and high as 105.

It's all about the state requirements and occupation. Let everyone do what they are convinced about.

My position still stands : peeps should confirm the recent trend of invitation points for respective occupations and check wether they measure up before spending considerable amount of money on Skills assessment.

If you wanna take a risk, it's smarter to take a calculated one!

tunlex01:

Where did you get this info from?

Numerous folks on other multinational forums have been complaining of lack of invitations, despite high points....

If you check the websites of most states for some time now, the emphasis has been on the highly competitive nature of rounds.

Queensland even went ahead to advise prospective applicants for their side to explore other migration opportunities.

Hello everyone,
Please is a B.Sc from UNN classified as tier 1 or 2 in Australia?

tunlex01:

How do I explain this?

You experience continues to count if you are still in the same occupation after the Vetassess result. So if you wait till 4 years, you are delaying your assessment. You can assess, get whatever is deducted, lodge EOI and the experience still continues to count and when it's 3 years, the point automatically increases/ People without 3 years experience also get nominated.
Note that, you cannot get nomination without first doing the skills assessment and lodging EOI. A stitch in time saves nine.

in a case where someone is unable to get payslips , and tax certificates to show experience should I still apply for assessment ? I've been working for 3 years on my own and it will be hard showing payslips and the rest

Jamiuokolaa:


Numerous folks on other multinational forums have been complaining of lack of invitations, despite high points....

If you check the websites of most states for some time now, the emphasis has been on the highly competitive nature of rounds.

Queensland even went ahead to advise prospective applicants for their side to explore other migration opportunities.

so we should not bother going to Australia again?

siina:
so we should not bother going to Australia again?

Unless your occupation na Artisan category, the focus should be on getting more points before spending money on skills assessment.

There are also some occupations that rarely get invited, even with high points.

A whole lot has changed within the last 8-12 months... especially with respect to cut off points, processing times and all.

Basically, one needs to check the current trends for one's occupation before "jumping" to do skills assessment

To answer your question directly with my above explanation - for example, it would be better for an Electrical Engineer with a paltry 65 points to explore other migration opportunities instead of wasting money on Skills assessment with Engineers Australia.

On the other hand, that same 65 points would be sufficient for occupations like Fitter and motor mechanic - this fact is applicable across Subclasses 189,190 and 491

If you need to take a risk, aim to take a calculated one, unless ofcourse you have lots of money to spare

Jamiuokolaa:


Unless your occupation na Artisan category, the focus should be on getting more points before spending money on skills assessment.

There are also some occupations that rarely get invited, even with high points.

A whole lot has changed within the last 8-12 months... especially with respect to cut off points, processing times and all.

Basically, one needs to check the current trends for one's occupation before "jumping" to do skills assessment

If you need to take a risk, aim to take a calculated one, unless ofcourse you have lots of money to spare

To answer your question directly with my above explanation - for example, it would be better for an Electrical Engineer with a paltry 65points to explore other migration opportunities instead of wasting money on Skills assessment with Engineers Australia

what about an architect

frankmoney:
what about an architect

For 189 Subclass, you would need high points - the allocation for 2024/2025 FY has been reduced by almost half of what it was last year - arbitrary meaning of this is that the competition for invites would be atleast twice as intensive as it was last year

For 190 and 491, the story wouldn't be too different. Based on recent trends, 2022 was the last time anybody with less than 75-80 points was invited.

For Architectural Draftsperson however, the cut off points is usually lower.

Jamiuokolaa:


Numerous folks on other multinational forums have been complaining of lack of invitations, despite high points....

If you check the websites of most states for some time now, the emphasis has been on the highly competitive nature of rounds.

Queensland even went ahead to advise prospective applicants for their side to explore other migration opportunities.

Everyone knows it's competitive but the same DHA still send 189 to some occupations for 65 points this last financial year. As many people are complaining of no invite so are many people still getting invitation and grant.
Every person to their own risk assessment. You don't have to give a blanket approach. Most of us will probably not be here if we had this notion. If you are waiting till everything is rosy to assess, by that time, the people who are ready have been invited.
Previous trends most times cannot be used to determines the trend in the new season as requirements and focus changes regularly with the federal and state government needs.

To everyone, if you have other options other than Australia, explore. If you don't have, stick your guns to it and give it a kick.

Aifytreats:
Hello everyone,
Please is a B.Sc from UNN classified as tier 1 or 2 in Australia?

UNN is a tier 2.
4 year Bachelors - AQF Associate degree
5 year Bachelors - AQF Bachelor's degree

frankmoney:
in a case where someone is unable to get payslips , and tax certificates to show experience should I still apply for assessment ? I've been working for 3 years on my own and it will be hard showing payslips and the rest

You might still be able to assess with Vetassess if you have bank statement showing your salary. However for the visa application, Home Affairs will definitely require more employment payment documents than just bank statement especially the tax or pension.

tunlex01:


Everyone knows it's competitive but the same DHA still send 189 to some occupations for 65 points this last financial year. As many people are complaining of no invite so are many people still getting invitation and grant.
Every person to their own risk assessment. You don't have to give a blanket approach. Most of us will probably not be here if we had this notion. If you are waiting till everything is rosy to assess, by that time, the people who are ready have been invited.
Previous trends most times cannot be used to determines the trend in the new season as requirements and focus changes regularly with the federal and state government needs.

To everyone, if you have other options other than Australia, explore. If you don't have, stick your guns to it and give it a kick.

The bolded part of your post is the crux of the matter, and I have explained further in the bolded part of my post below...

Jamiuokolaa:


Unless your occupation na Artisan category, the focus should be on getting more points before spending money on skills assessment.

There are also some occupations that rarely get invited, even with high points.

A whole lot has changed within the last 8-12 months... especially with respect to cut off points, processing times and all.

Basically, one needs to check the current trends for one's occupation before "jumping" to do skills assessment

To answer your question directly with my above explanation - for example, it would be better for an Electrical Engineer with a paltry 65 points to explore other migration opportunities instead of wasting money on Skills assessment with Engineers Australia.

On the other hand, that same 65 points would be sufficient for occupations like Fitter and motor mechanic - this fact is applicable across Subclasses 189,190 and 491

If you need to take a risk, aim to take a calculated one, unless ofcourse you have lots of money to spare

DJMJ:

Thanks my Oga.
Kudos to you @bellong & @tunlex.
Without you two there won't be a story. I got most of my info here and now it's history. Hope to meet you two one day.

Congratulations! You guys should go ahead to clear the coast for us. We are coming behind you. My own story will shake the whole internet.

May the land of the milk and honey🍯favour you.

Jamiuokolaa:


My position still stands : peeps should confirm the recent trend of invitation points for respective occupations and check wether they measure up before spending considerable amount of money on Skills assessment.

If you wanna take a risk, it's smarter to take a calculated one!

Baba, abeg leave matter jare. Don't discourage people. Who says you must have 85 points before you can be invited?

People are getting invites with as low as 70 in many occupations.

Besides, are you part of us or you are against us? Which occupation are you applying for? Have you done your assessment or you are just here to discourage people?

Please, desist from the campaign you are carrying out. We don't need negative energy in this race. Your posts are sounding more like to discourage people.

If competition is high for 189 due to some persons' occupations, they can be invited for 491.

Don't use current trends to outrightly discourage people. If bellong and tunex discourage people right from the inception of this thread, we wouldn't be here. Many have benefited from this thread due to the positive outlook of the contributors here.

We don't need this type of discouraging posts here. Pls, desist from this type of posts and let your posts be more positive. Nobody says it's going to be all rosy. We already know all these.

Mcslize:


Baba, abeg leave matter jare. Don't discourage people. Who says you must have 85 points before you can be invited?

People are getting invites with as low as 70 in many occupations.

Besides, are you part of us or you are against us? Which occupation are you applying for? Have you done your assessment or you are just here to discourage people?

Please, desist from the campaign you are carrying out. We don't need negative energy in this race. Your posts are sounding more like to discourage people.

If competition is high for 189 due to some persons' occupations, they can be invited for 491.

Don't use current trends to outrightly discourage people. If bellong and tunex discourage people right from the inception of this thread, we wouldn't be here. Many have benefited from this thread due to the positive outlook of the contributors here.

We don't need this type of discouraging posts here. Pls, desist from this type of posts and let your posts be more positive. Nobody says it's going to be all rosy. We already know all these.

I didn't discourage anybody oga

I am not here for any sentiments whatsoever - if actual facts that would help peeps make informed decisions seem like some sort of discouragement to you, na your problem be that.

I'm responsible for what I type and not what you understand

You can simply ignore my post - it's not by force.

The remaining points in your post have been addressed below :

Jamiuokolaa:


Unless your occupation na Artisan category, the focus should be on getting more points before spending money on skills assessment.

There are also some occupations that rarely get invited, even with high points.

A whole lot has changed within the last 8-12 months... especially with respect to cut off points, processing times and all.

Basically, one needs to check the current trends for one's occupation before "jumping" to do skills assessment

To answer your question directly with my above explanation - for example, it would be better for an Electrical Engineer with a paltry 65 points to explore other migration opportunities instead of wasting money on Skills assessment with Engineers Australia.

On the other hand, that same 65 points would be sufficient for occupations like Fitter and motor mechanic - this fact is applicable across Subclasses 189,190 and 491

If you need to take a risk, aim to take a calculated one, unless ofcourse you have lots of money to spare

Jamiuokolaa:


I didn't discourage anybody oga

I am not here for any sentiments whatsoever - if actual facts that would help peeps make informed decisions seem like some sort of discouragement to you, na your problem be that.

I'm responsible for what I type and not what you understand

You can simply ignore my post - it's not by force.

The remaining points in your post have been addressed below :

Your stands are just mere presumptions. They are not lay on bricks. Engineers are getting invited with 70. It's all about being patient. Forget about all the current trends. It's election formats. Things will ease out starting from this new financial year.

Another tornado round of invites like the one that happened in 2022 will happen again. It's better you advise individuals to do everything possible to get in the queue than outrightly telling them never to try if they can't score 85 and above. That's a terrible way to advise intending applicants. Not that your discouraging post will hold any water any way. Cuz anyone who has been on this race is well prepared for it.

While I am not in any way faulting your earlier post, but outrightly writing intending applicants that can't score more than 85 points off is not the right thing to do. Don't use current trends to judge everyone situations.

Aside the priority occupations, majority of persons still get invited for non priority occupations. Save this, after the election, things will return back to normal between now and next financial year. That's why it's wise to enter the queue as far as individual meets the required 65 points.

I will still advise you not to outrightly discourage people and write them off. I have seen lots of people who get invited with as low as 65 and 70 for non priority occupations.

In all, who gives up na him fvck up.

Jamiuokolaa:


I didn't discourage anybody oga

I am not here for any sentiments whatsoever - if actual facts that would help peeps make informed decisions seem like some sort of discouragement to you, na your problem be that.

I'm responsible for what I type and not what you understand


You can simply ignore my post - it's not by force.

The remaining points in your post have been addressed below :

Oga you are discouraging people like me

So keep your opinions to yourself

Yes you can keep looking for your 85 point
We don’t even know if your point reach 60 or you have even done assessments

Before you open mouth waa to be requesting for 85 points from intending applicants

You are only looking for people to fall down with you