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Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by DMerciful(m): 2:56pm On Jul 11
Aptly put- politics of illiteracy
Ttipsy:
The only contentment we have in Nigeria is politics!

We have fanatics who always don’t give a fck about good governance as long as they have their tribe man and religious man in power

Politics of illiteracy

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Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by DMerciful(m): 2:59pm On Jul 11
Its ok if the rest of Nigeria feels this way.
However, Nigeria is not working and someone saying he wants to leave a union shouldn't be demonize because unity cannot be forced
JagabanB:
This article explains it all, the lgb0s have developed "they hàté us" complex over the years and that's why they find it difficult to blend with other tribes even minor tribes.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by DMerciful(m): 3:03pm On Jul 11
Its a democracy, so if there's a vote in Igbo land, you'll not be among the majority.

If the majority of Igbos wanna leave Nigeria, you'll respect a democratic referendum just like not all British people wanna leave the EU but it happened for all
Svoboda:
I am igbo as well, but i dont like the exhibitionist, boastful and victimhood tendencies of my people. With such an appendage we are creatimg more enemies than friends and allies. I know what i personally suffered when i refused to endorse obi over others in 2023 and when i opted for buhari both over jonathan and atiku.

Most nationalistic igbo politicians havent been spared our peoples collective wrath either. They prefer paraochial minds like Peter Obi and venerate neo anarchists like Nnamdi Kanu. Mind you, Kanu is the sole reason our land remains largely unaafe.

In my local church, i belong to the igbo community. But when it comes to the igbo penchant for exhibitionism and loudness, which is usually a veiled attempt at drawing envy and silent hisses from the other on looking tribes, i hide myself because i put myself in the shoes of those people and i wonder how they might be feeling at our peoples insensitivity a lot of times.

The igbo really need a very strong introspection.

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Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by Tochi3(m): 3:08pm On Jul 11
Svoboda:
I am igbo as well, but i dont like the exhibitionist, boastful and victimhood tendencies of my people. With such an appendage we are creatimg more enemies than friends and allies. I know what i personally suffered when i refused to endorse obi over others in 2023 and when i opted for buhari both over jonathan and atiku.

Most nationalistic igbo politicians havent been spared our peoples collective wrath either. They prefer paraochial minds like Peter Obi and venerate neo anarchists like Nnamdi Kanu. Mind you, Kanu is the sole reason our land remains largely unaafe.

In my local church, i belong to the igbo community. But when it comes to the igbo penchant for exhibitionism and loudness, which is usually a veiled attempt at drawing envy and silent hisses from the other on looking tribes, i hide myself because i put myself in the shoes of those people and i wonder how they might be feeling at our peoples insensitivity a lot of times.

The igbo really need a very strong introspection.

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Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by onumadu: 3:10pm On Jul 11
The article may have broached some boundaries or rudiments of truths here and there, but what I find fascinating is the fact that whenever you see articles like this pointing out Igbo faults or "to blame", it is nearly always written by Igbo persons.
I find it fascinating and disturbing that elements from an ethnic group would be constantly self-deprecating or self-immolating, for purposes of which I cannot fathom.
If you find 100 articles blaming Igbo for their plight in Nigeria, well above 80 would be written by Igbo persons.
I know for a fact that Igbo are a proud nation that loves itself, but still there are these elements within it that aren't quite comfortable about it, as if Igbo is the only ethnic group that has pride and love for itself.
I decided years back to stop fighting for any Igbo or Biafran causes precisely for this reason.
The person that would hate you most for fighting for him or her is an Igbo person.
Depressing.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by sulaak(m): 4:31pm On Jul 11
Autodidact1:



I almost agree completely with you in the other paragraphs. But this highlighted portion is completely false.

Quota system as it's practiced in Nigeria doesn't make any sense. Quota system should happen in places where a certain portion of the society is under represented. Are the northerners under represented? Are they minority? Are the unheard and vulnerable? They're the ones with power and using that power to their advantage.

Why has no Igbo person come close to clinging the seat of power at until recently? Does it mean no Igbo has ever been serious about it? You mean to tell me theirs no conspiracy against the Igbo specifically and the Yorubas enabling it even if they're victims themselves?


The truth is that Igbo political elites have a poor political strategy in the context of Nigeria's political system.

For example, Tinubu set up ACN, and took physical control of Lagos resources to support his political ambition. In 2011, he joined forces with CPC to create APC. Peter Obi is now the presidential candidate of LP. He can muster between 6 and 10 million votes, but does he control LP? Can he arrange a merger between PDP and LP with the understanding that they will back PDP Atiku for 2027 and PDP will back PO for 2031 or vice versa?

NB: I don't support Tinubu or APC , the are hopeless and corrupt and have virtually destroyed Nigeria.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by Autodidact1: 4:35pm On Jul 11
sulaak:


The truth is that Igbo political elites have a poor political strategy in the context of Nigeria's political system.

For example, Tinubu set up ACN, and took physical control of Lagos resources to support his political ambition. In 2011, he joined forces with CPC to create APC. Peter Obi is now the presidential candidate of LP. He can muster between 6 and 10 million votes, but does he control LP? Can he arrange a merger between PDP and LP with the understanding that they will back PDP Atiku for 2027 and PDP will back PO for 2031 or vice versa?

NB: I don't support Tinubu or APC , the are hopeless and corrupt and have virtually destroyed Nigeria.

If you agree that the Tinubu alliance destroyed Nigeria, why are you suggesting it for the Igbos?
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by sulaak(m): 5:10pm On Jul 11
Autodidact1:


If you agree that the Tinubu alliance destroyed Nigeria, why are you suggesting it for the Igbos?

I am not suggesting it for Igbos. I am against any political alliance that has no ideology.


The direction of travel is another mega political party made up of PDP, NNPP and LP to take on the APC
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by aswani(m): 5:25pm On Jul 11
They should have allowed the musician to play his music nau, ah ah.

I am a little bit surprised at the story, most Yoruba musicians know a lot of igbo songs. I am assuming the guy knows his audience from their dressing, he could have done a lot of English, pidgin or even igbó songs and dropped a Yoruba one once in a while.

If he was playing back to back Yoruba music, even if they were praise ones, then quite frankly, he got what he deserved.

Someone also must have warned him first and he ignored them, unless they had a band on standby to replace him (not just the DJ).

All in all, a very bad situation.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by JagabanB: 4:48pm On Jul 12
DMerciful:
Its ok if the rest of Nigeria feels this way.
However, Nigeria is not working and someone saying he wants to leave a union shouldn't be demonize because unity cannot be forced
Someone wanting to leave the union shouldn't be demonize but saying others forced u into the union when it was your ancestors that cleared shut the door for someone wanting to leave, should that be applauded?
We are not against ur Biafra, we are against the way u go about it.

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Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by JagabanB: 4:48pm On Jul 12
Tochi3:
..what other opinion do you hold against those you envy so much..

..you must see the lies, deceit & propaganda as an explanation to fuel your desire for hatred, jealousy & tribalism against the Igbos.... grin grin

..i can imagine you moving all over Oshogbo on bear foot with so much hatred & bile in you.. grin grin
Attend a school, that's how to liberate the mind.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by Konquest: 10:02pm On Aug 09
sulaak:


https://businessday.ng/analysis/article ... blameless/


The Igbo are not harmless and blameless

BusinessDay

Tochukwu Ezukanma


At a wedding party in Washington DC, an Igbo DJ and a Yoruba band, alternately, entertained the guests. The beat and rhythm of the band’s music was Juju, but the lyrics were in English. The leader of the band attended the same church with the bride. So, on this exceptionally memorable day of the bride, he came, with his band, to celebrate with his sister in the Lord. The bride is of Igbo parentage but born in the United States of America. The gathering was predominately Igbo. At a point, the Master of Ceremony of the occasion, a crude Mbaise man, blurted: this is an Igbo wedding and we do not want a Yoruba band here; he ordered the band to leave. Flustered and dispirited, the band members started packing their musical instruments.

I went over to the band leader, and asked him not to feel too bad for this is the Nigerian reality: ethnic diversity laced with tribalism. I told him that I, like some other guests, was totally indifferent to the ethnic makeup of the band playing. And that some other guests may have been offended by the presence of a Yoruba band but could tolerate it, and then, there were others, like the MC that could not tolerate it. Similarly, if this were a Yoruba wedding, and an Igbo band played, some Yoruba may not mind, some will mind but stomach it, and others will not tolerate it, and may insist on its departure. While there is strength and virility in Nigerian diversity, it is inevitably associated with that pesky, exasperating albatross: tribalism. To varying degrees, all the major tribes of Nigeria are guilty of tribalism.

As the Nigerian information minister (during the civil war), Anthony Enahoro, denounced Igbo hegemony; he accused the Igbo of having boasted of dominating Nigeria and the entire Africa. To me, his statement was inconceivable; I could not imagine that the Igbo were ever that boastful. However, on further research, I found his statement factual. In 1945, Daddy Onyeama, at an Igbo Union meeting, said that the Igbo will not only dominate Nigeria but the whole of Africa. In 1949, Nnamdi Azikiwe said that the gods of the Igbo that have given them the domination of Nigeria will also give them the domination of Africa. That was verbal flamboyance that must have hurt the feelings and wounded the pride of other ethnic groups of Nigeria.

Interestingly, although the Igbo made conceited statements that insulted other peoples’ sensibilities, they lament tactless blusters by other Nigerians that piqued the Igbo. For example, they were unsettled by a statement attributed to the Suarduna of Sokoto, Ahmadu Bello, which said: it was the British that interrupted our (Hausa/Fulani) jihad. When the British leaves, we will continue our jihad to the south, and ultimately, dip the Koran into the Atlantic Ocean. Both the Igbo and Hausa/Fulani rodomontade were culpable of arrogance, insensitivity and thoughtlessness. They were overconfident and indiscreet statements that bruised the insensitivity and injured the pride of others. The Igbo leaders talked about domination in business, education and the professions, as dictated by enviable Igbo cultural skills. The Hausa/Fulani leader talked about religious domination, as determined by the jihadist unhinged murderousness and proselytizing barbarity.

Rattled by the outcomes of the January 1966 coup, the decimated the Hausa/Fulani leadership and a power shift from the Hausa/Fulani to the Igbo, the Hausa/Fulani unleashed carnage against the Igbo; they murdered thousands of Igbo. The Igbo ran to their home region and declared their own independent state of Biafra. Biafra was a reckless and impetuous enterprise that had no chance of success. As Biafra, inescapably, faltered, and tethered towards a collapse, the Igbo needed someone to blame. They sought and found scapegoats in the “sabotaging” and “back-stabbing” minorities of Biafra. They mass-murdered the minority peoples of Biafra, killing thousands of them.

Presently, most Igbo are angry, bitter and feel persecuted by other Nigerians and every Nigerian government and its policies. For example, although, since 1999, no Igbo politician has made a serious run for the presidency, many Igbo already believe that there is a conspiracy amongst other peoples of Nigeria against an Igbo presidency. Although, most heterogeneous countries of the world have quota system, in one form or another, the Igbo consider quota system in university admission an anti-Igbo policy. That this is a national issue (with advantages and disadvantages) that, also, adversely affects the Yoruba, Edo and all southerners, are facts the Igbo do not want to get in their way. And incredibly, many Igbo think that the Fulani herdsmen, despite their ravages of communities in Benue, Kaduna, etc are primarily targeting the Igbo, and that their attacks on none Igbo communities are just ploys to give an orchestrated anti-Igbo onslaught a coloration of a national problem. Clinging to the lies we were fed in Biafra, we believe that we are a blameless and harmless people surrounded, hated and victimized by murderous and vengeful peoples of Nigeria. And, as such, our only saving grace is in secession. It is this groundless belief that is fuelling the neo-Biafran lunacy and the muddled enthusiasm for it among many Igbo youths.

The renowned American diplomat, John Galbraith, once wrote that, “Every human endeavor is geared towards the acquisition of power and glory”. Power, in this context, is protean; it includes political power, the power of a teacher over his students, a wife, over her husband’s patience and bank account and a toddler, over the mother’s time and mood. Essentially, we are all driven by the same basic interests – power and glory. Secondly, no one is really angelic or totally demonic. In their song, Ebony and Ivory, Paul McCarthy and Steve Wonder sang, “There is good and bad in everyone”. Like any other group of humanity, the Igbo have their strengths and weakness, with the capacity for both good and bad. Like other major ethnic groups of Nigeria, the Igbo, have, in the quest for power and glory, been insensitive and arrogant, exploitative and inconsiderate, and vicious and murderous. And, like the Hausa/Fulani, we have massacred, in thousands, those that stood in the way of our political ambitions.

The Igbo desperately need to appreciate that they are not blameless and harmless, and that the other peoples of Nigeria are not a band of the vengeful and murderous united in a common plot to annihilate the Igbo. This will enable us to value the good in other Nigerians, and thus, resolve to live in peace, and forge a common future, with them in a united Nigeria.



Tochukwu Ezukanma
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by confusedlady(f): 10:59pm On Aug 09
Tochukwu Ezukanma.....
You took a mirror, looked at your people's reflection and then tried to tell the truth. You are in a minority because as you can attest from this thread 99.9% of Ibp people hate to hear the truth about themselves.
I actually fear for you and your family because they will come after you like a headless mob and call you all kinds of names.
I wonder why the Ibo fail to see themselves how they really are. Every other person can see this noisy,loud,arrogant support for rebellion, insurrection and anarchy while consistently trying to play the eternal victim.
I really feel for this writer Tochukwu Ezukanma,because they will never accept this true picture. They will label him a Yoruba Muslim, a saboteur, a sell out,an efulefu,a betrayer,and many more names. They will track down his social media pages and make his life a living hell. Some will go after his wife and children. Some will try to trace his job in order to get him sacked. The Ibo are and have proven themselves to be vindictive because they have refused to have a sober reflection. See themselves as others can clearly see them and try to change.
Re: The Igbo Are Not Harmless And Blameless by Ojiofor: 11:25pm On Aug 09
gidgiddy:
You do wonder how stupid some people can be.

Someone is complaining about January 1966 coup, the same person has no complaints about July 1966 coup, 1976 coup, 1983 coup, 1985 coup or 1993 coup. His complaint starts and ends with one particular coup, in the many that occurred in Nigeria

Someone is complaining that Igbos said they will dominate Nigeria, he has no complaints about being dominated by the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy for the last 60 years

Someone is complaining that parts of Nigeria are bitter against Igbos, but is finding every reason for Igbos to remain in a country where people are bitter against them


Someone is complaining that Nigeria has failed, but thinks Biafra is lunacy. Do you enjoy remaining part of a failed country?

He also said that Igbos have not made a serious run for the Presidency, Fulani herdsmen are killing Nigerians in all 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria. But that did not stop a Fulani man called Buhari from being elected President twice

I don't believe an Igbo man wrote this nonsense, but if it is an Igbo man that wrote it, he is a disgrace to himself and his ancestors

His choice of words about Biafra may not be nice but what he actually means is that Biafra was ill conceived and have no chance of surviving from day one just like your today's agitation have zero chance of succeeding.

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