No matter what anyone says, I will never encourage anyone to go to Vietnam. Economically the place is dead, we are suppose to be economic migrants, If a place is not doing better than Nigeria economically, then why go there.

tosinhtml:


Ooo anything I read Vietnam, I used to get traumatised. I had an interview with a company there in 2018, that was the meanest and worst interview ever. After 6 rounds of interviews, they made me an offer, and the money was so bad that I started crying. There were 6 difficult interview stages.

I did:

1st Interview - Codility
2nd - Engineering manager interview
3rd - Take home test
4th - Whiteboard Live Coding - pair to pair interview
5th - Design challenge & Refactoring a code within specified time
6th - Live Interview with 6 Developers throwing questions at me.

I could have asked them upfront about the pay range but because I was desperate, I just believed the offer will be good as an International company. I also did not research very well about Vietnam because that country's economic value is in shambles even though they have great social amenities, 24/7 power & good roads.

A friend of mine who travelled to Vietnam 10 years ago came back with nothing, all the money he made there was peanuts, In fact I was better off in Nigeria financially when he came back, now he is desperately trying to relocate to Australia via the Australia Skilled Select program but every thing is super tight atm. Now he is stuck in Nigeria.

This is true even the interview process I had then was too hard and for pennies. Lol, my boss then even increased my salary and I was like after all this suffering see Wetin these fools dey offer as salary. Very heartless beings. Even a Nigerian startup will pay you better then. What's the point of earning low wages and no hope of citizenship or good passport. Just carry my youth dash them.

tensazangetsu20:


This is true even the interview process I had then was too hard and for pennies. Lol, my boss then even increased my salary and I was like after all this suffering see Wetin these fools dey offer as salary. Very heartless beings. Even a Nigerian startup will pay you better then.

Yes, I pity anyone who travels to Vietnam for work. They will be used like rags. God forbid bad thing.

tosinhtml:


Yes, I pity anyone who travels to Vietnam for work. They will be used like rags. God forbid bad thing.

For me the only way I can live in these poor asian countries or the middle east is if they are paying me so much money. By so much money, I mean excess of 30000 usd a month. Anything else it's not worth it. I am giving you the best years of my life with no hope of citizenship or passport and coming back to a shithole country which only God knows how worst it will be when I am ready to return so why should I work for pennies

tensazangetsu20:


For me the only way I can live in these poor asian countries or the middle east is if they are paying me so much money. By so much money, I mean excess of 30000 usd a month. Anything else it's not worth it. I am giving you the best years of my life with no hope of citizenship or passport and coming back to a shithole country which only God knows how worst it will be when I am ready to return so why should I work for pennies

Yes but we all know they won't pay such, never. Poor asian countries are solely for cheap labor, even when you find them on freelance websites, they charge the lowest.

Andychinedu:


There is but only their citizens occupy it…

That’s because of the language barrier.
You can barely engage in any other business or work here apart from teach…

So please save up and find another destination.

Are you saying that English isn't spoken even in the country's capital city? How about the schools for expatriates

tosinhtml:


Ooo anything I read Vietnam, I used to get traumatised. I had an interview with a company there in 2018, that was the meanest and worst interview ever. After 6 rounds of interviews, they made me an offer, and the money was so bad that I started crying. There were 6 difficult interview stages.

I did:

1st Interview - Codility
2nd - Engineering manager interview
3rd - Take home test
4th - Whiteboard Live Coding - pair to pair interview
5th - Design challenge & Refactoring a code within specified time
6th - Live Interview with 6 Developers throwing questions at me.

I could have asked them upfront about the pay range but because I was desperate, I just believed the offer will be good as an International company. I also did not research very well about Vietnam because that country's economic value is in shambles even though they have great social amenities, 24/7 power & good roads.

A friend of mine who travelled to Vietnam 10 years ago came back with nothing, all the money he made there was peanuts, In fact I was better off in Nigeria financially when he came back, now he is desperately trying to relocate to Australia via the Australia Skilled Select program but every thing is super tight atm. Now he is stuck in Nigeria.

Most of you often make mistakes with wrong assumptions & fallacies of hasty generalizations. “That country’s economic value is in shambles” Wrong! Vietnam is a fast growing and fast industrializing country. They have good infrastructures and amenities. Even some people from western countries are surprised to see that small restaurants & public places have free Wi-Fi in Vietnam. The country is currently competing with China as a major producer in many sectors.

Vietnam is currently more productive than any country in Africa yet their cost of living is low. You hardly see extreme poverty and gap between the rich & poor is so close.

Your friend obviously didn’t know what he was looking for & didn’t plan well, thus he failed. Same Vietnam has many Nigerians who are teaching or are into manufacturing, and are making monthly earnings that many workers in Nigeria can’t earn in a year!

As someone who is into coding, Vietnam shouldn’t offer you the best prospects because they also have lots of citizens who are into it. The only advantage you may have over them is ability to speak English fluently. So, why would they pay you as expatriates when their own people or Indians can do it for much less?

We have been saying this since, do not travel to Vietnam if you’re not going for tourism, teaching or business. Your friend has himself to blame for traveling without making proper research.

tosinhtml:
No matter what anyone says, I will never encourage anyone to go to Vietnam. Economically the place is dead, we are suppose to be economic migrants, If a place is not doing better than Nigeria economically, then why go there.

Now you’re sounding absolutely ignorant. Before you speak in public places, try and get your facts right!

Vietnam is currently industrializing and growing rapidly. Its economic prospects is among the best in Asia. They’ve lifted millions out of poverty within a very short time and their GDP per capita and GNP keeps soaring.

No country in Africa is currently doing better than Vietnam in terms of economic output and production. They’ve surpassed South Africa, not to talk of Nigeria.

Even villages in Vietnam have good roads, sidewalks and covered drains while your cities in Nigeria are still battling with open gutters & terribly bad roads.

What some Nigerians earn in Vietnam as English teachers, per month, many school principals in Nigeria don’t earn it in a year😆.

Lastly, you might see yourself as economic migrants but another person will see himself as expatriate, big difference!

tosinhtml:


Yes, I pity anyone who travels to Vietnam for work. They will be used like rags. God forbid bad thing.

If you present yourself as rags, your employers will also use you as rags. However, if you have something of value to offer and you have the right mindset, nobody will abuse you.

So, you should rather work on your personality and mindset.

tensazangetsu20:


For me the only way I can live in these poor asian countries or the middle east is if they are paying me so much money. By so much money, I mean excess of 30000 usd a month. Anything else it's not worth it. I am giving you the best years of my life with no hope of citizenship or passport and coming back to a shithole country which only God knows how worst it will be when I am ready to return so why should I work for pennies

Lol, you’re a very funny person. You seem to have a very unflattering opinion about every other country except Chile you see as heaven 😆.

What you should understand in life is that choices & priorities always differ from person to person. For you, Chile is eldorado, but for another person, they might not like it.

Are you aware that you can be working as an IT person in Chile & be earning $3000 monthly while another person who is earning $1500 monthly in Vietnam ends up making more savings than you?

You will be stuck in one job in Chile while a teacher in Vietnam can easily tap into the manufacturing sector of that country and be exporting goods?

Meanwhile, Chile is not what you present it to be. Its main exports are still minerals. It still has a relatively high unemployment rates of up to 19%. Nobody works in Vietnam with hopes of staying for donkey years, except retirees that decided to settle there and get married to Vietnamese people.

There is no guarantee that an immigrant will always get a passport after staying for some years, because immigration policies are often changed by governments. You might see Chile as eldorado but another person might also see it as a nightmare because of its poor and volatile accessibility. Traveling between there and Nigeria can be a harrowing experience. I personally can’t live in a country where the idea of traveling to my country becomes a nightmare.

NaijaVietnamese:


Lol, you’re a very funny person. You seem to have a very unflattering opinion about every other country except Chile you see as heaven 😆.

What you should understand in life is that choices & priorities always differ from person to person. For you, Chile is eldorado, but for another person, they might not like it.

Are you aware that you can be working as an IT person in Chile & be earning $3000 monthly while another person who is earning $1500 monthly in Vietnam ends up making more savings than you?

You will be stuck in one job in Chile while a teacher in Vietnam can easily tap into the manufacturing sector of that country and be exporting goods?

Meanwhile, Chile is not what you present it to be. Its main exports are still minerals. It still has a relatively high unemployment rates of up to 19%. Nobody works in Vietnam with hopes of staying for donkey years, except retirees that decided to settle there and get married to Vietnamese people.

There is no guarantee that an immigrant will always get a passport after staying for some years, because immigration policies are often changed by governments. You might see Chile as eldorado but another person might also see it as a nightmare because of its poor and volatile accessibility. Traveling between there and Nigeria can be a harrowing experience. I personally can’t live in a country where the idea of traveling to my country becomes a nightmare.

Chiles unemployment rate isn't up to 10 percent besides I don't present any Eldorado for anybody. I have discouraged every person that has reached out to come to Chile to not come here cause they will suffer greatly.

Besides no reduce my salary sha. I am entering 10k a month before year end . For now government refugee funds make sense. I am starting prostitution soon and will make more

NaijaVietnamese:


Most of you often make mistakes with wrong assumptions & fallacies of hasty generalizations. “That country’s economic value is in shambles” Wrong! Vietnam is a fast growing and fast industrializing country. They have good infrastructures and amenities. Even some people from western countries are surprised to see that small restaurants & public places have free Wi-Fi in Vietnam. The country is currently competing with China as a major producer in many sectors.

The rest of your post is true, but the bold is false. Not even India can compete with Big Daddy China in manufacturing, especially when the Chinese finance most newly built factories in Vietnam. That said, I see Vietnam doing better than India in the long term.

Vietnam is a fast developing country far more than Nigeria. No matter how interior a countryside may be in Vietnam, three things are certain: Electricity, good road and pipe-borne water.
Nigeria external reserve is $35 Billion while that of Vietnam is $92 Billion.

Hi all,

I have been offered a job as a teacher in Vietnam.

I am seeking information on how to get police clearance and how to legalize/notarize my documents.

Any information will be helpful.

The organization is going to arrange visa, but I have to get those notarized documents to them. time is running out. Please help

tosinhtml:


Ooo anything I read Vietnam, I used to get traumatised. I had an interview with a company there in 2018, that was the meanest and worst interview ever. After 6 rounds of interviews, they made me an offer, and the money was so bad that I started crying. There were 6 difficult interview stages.

I did:

1st Interview - Codility
2nd - Engineering manager interview
3rd - Take home test
4th - Whiteboard Live Coding - pair to pair interview
5th - Design challenge & Refactoring a code within specified time
6th - Live Interview with 6 Developers throwing questions at me.

I could have asked them upfront about the pay range but because I was desperate, I just believed the offer will be good as an International company. I also did not research very well about Vietnam because that country's economic value is in shambles even though they have great social amenities, 24/7 power & good roads.

A friend of mine who travelled to Vietnam 10 years ago came back with nothing, all the money he made there was peanuts, In fact I was better off in Nigeria financially when he came back, now he is desperately trying to relocate to Australia via the Australia Skilled Select program but every thing is super tight atm. Now he is stuck in Nigeria.

When I said there’s no such job here for a foreigner what do you think I meant…!
It’s not always you’d expect details from someone.

The only job that will pay you $1k above here is teaching.

Just accept it like that or believe whatever you feel.

@ my journey to Hanoi … I have gotten the evisa and will be visiting month end . Please, I did like to know if I can stay in a particular hotel while I visit other provinces . How big is the country ? Is it possible for me to situate in Hanoi and sightsee in Ho Chi Minh, Sapa etc or do I have to be moving ? I just want to spend 7 nights . Thank you in anticipation .

Hanihani:
@ my journey to Hanoi … I have gotten the evisa and will be visiting month end . Please, I did like to know if I can stay in a particular hotel while I visit other provinces . How big is the country ? Is it possible for me to situate in Hanoi and sightsee in Ho Chi Minh, Sapa etc or do I have to be moving ? I just want to spend 7 nights . Thank you in anticipation .

Congratulations on getting your visa.
Ho Chi Minh is in the south of Vietnam while Sapa is far North of Vietnam.
From Sapa to Ho Chi Minh city is 32 hours by road (non stop) and 2 hours by Air to Hanoi, then you use bus to Sapa for like 3 to 4 hours. So check it out yourself.
Hotels are cheap so you can pay for the days only you wish to stay in any city.

Since you're coming strictly as a tourist and to spend 7 nights and wish to visit other provinces. If you have reasonable amount you can do road trips. Eg. If you land in Hanoi ( North), tour the tourist provinces like Ha Long Bay / City, Sapa, Hanoi city Ninh Binh. Then take a bus to Da Nang (12 hours from Hanoi). Da Nang is in central Vietnam. There you visit Hoi An, Hue and Da Nang City and beach. From Da Nang you move again to Ho Chi Minh city and tour the South including the Mekong River etc. from Ho Chi Minh city you depart Vietnam. But 7 days may not be enough to tour all these cities.

Vietnam is good, no doubt but truth must be told... We are here because we don't have many choices. Vietnam is just like Polytechnic or college of education. Na for people wey University no reach

padua1234:
Vietnam is good, no doubt but truth must be told... We are here because we don't have many choices. Vietnam is just like Polytechnic or college of education. Na for people wey University no reach

are you teaching English over there?

NaijaVietnamese:


If you present yourself as rags, your employers will also use you as rags. However, if you have something of value to offer and you have the right mindset, nobody will abuse you.

So, you should rather work on your personality and mindset.

There is absolutely nothing to work my dear, I was earning (times * 2) of what I was being offered in Vietnam in 2018, Two years later I started earning (times * 10) of the same amount in Lagos Nigeria.

My company even hired in Vietnam & I was earning over 50% of my colleagues who are in Vietnam. There is nothing in Vietnam apart from teaching jobs as you say & no teaching Job in Vietnam can pay me $7k per month, so why will change my mindset over peanuts.

My childhood friend who lives in Vietnam earns $500 per month, that is peanut salary for someone who is hustling abroad.

NaijaVietnamese:


Now you’re sounding absolutely ignorant. Before you speak in public places, try and get your facts right!

Vietnam is currently industrializing and growing rapidly. Its economic prospects is among the best in Asia. They’ve lifted millions out of poverty within a very short time and their GDP per capita and GNP keeps soaring.

No country in Africa is currently doing better than Vietnam in terms of economic output and production. They’ve surpassed South Africa, not to talk of Nigeria.

Even villages in Vietnam have good roads, sidewalks and covered drains while your cities in Nigeria are still battling with open gutters & terribly bad roads.

What some Nigerians earn in Vietnam as English teachers, per month, many school principals in Nigeria don’t earn it in a year😆.

Lastly, you might see yourself as economic migrants but another person will see himself as expatriate, big difference!

I sincerely do not understand why you are comparing yourselves to the lowest of low in Nigeria in terms of salaries. Why not compare yourself to Bank Managers, MD, ED of banks.

My point is, there are better countries to relocate to, nobody should be relocating to Vietnam to earn peanuts please unless you were totally jobless in Nigeria.

xest:
are you teaching English over there?

Yes

How can someone earning over 2 million naira monthly with free accommodation & free utilities be earning peanuts

There is something called cost/benefit analysis. Someone that spent less than 4 million to travel to Vietnam and still earn a lifetime professional certificate with it, is better than someone who spent 18 million to go to Europe or Canada.

Here is the breakdown;
Vietnam;
1. You recover your total expenses in two months of working.
2. You work professionally.
3. You live the life of a middle class, above the income of the majority of citizens.
4. You have the opportunity of doing side hustles in exportation.

Europe/Canada;
1. It takes you many months if not years to recover your expenses.
2. You’re likely to end up with shitty jobs such as cleaners, care givers or security guards etc.
3. You have to juggle between jobs with extreme stress so you can pay for high cost of living.
4. You will be among the lowest income earners & live very basic lifestyles.

Lastly, school principals are not among the lowest of the low in Nigeria, they’re supposed to be middle class. Why should I compare with bank managers that have worked for many years and spent huge sums of money along the line? Against someone that spent 4 million and was only starting a new career? Nevertheless, a teacher in Vietnam can also compare with them eventually if they’re focused in maximizing their side hustles by continually scaling up.

tosinhtml:


I sincerely do not understand why you are comparing yourselves to the lowest of low in Nigeria in terms of salaries. Why not compare yourself to Bank Managers, MD, ED of banks.

My point is, there are better countries to relocate to, nobody should be relocating to Vietnam to earn peanuts please unless you were totally jobless in Nigeria.

tosinhtml:


There is absolutely nothing to work my dear, I was earning (times * 2) of what I was being offered in Vietnam in 2018, Two years later I started earning (times * 10) of the same amount in Lagos Nigeria.

My company even hired in Vietnam & I was earning over 50% of my colleagues who are in Vietnam. There is nothing in Vietnam apart from teaching jobs as you say & no teaching Job in Vietnam can pay me $7k per month, so why will change my mindset over peanuts.

My childhood friend who lives in Vietnam earns $500 per month, that is peanut salary for someone who is hustling abroad.

What exactly is your childhood friend doing in Vietnam? Don’t tell me he is teaching?!

NaijaVietnamese:
How can someone earning over 2 million naira monthly with free accommodation & free utilities be earning peanuts

There is something called cost/benefit analysis. Someone that spent less than 4 million to travel to Vietnam and still earn a lifetime professional certificate with it, is better than someone who spent 18 million to go to Europe or Canada.
Here is the breakdown;
Vietnam;
1. You recover your total expenses in two months of working.
2. You work professionally.
3. You live the life of a middle class, above the income of the majority of citizens.
4. You have the opportunity of doing side hustles in exportation.

Europe/Canada;
1. It takes you many months if not years to recover your expenses.
2. You’re likely to end up with shitty jobs such as cleaners, care givers or security guards etc.
3. You have to juggle between jobs with extreme stress so you can pay for high cost of living.
4. You will be among the lowest income earners & live very basic lifestyles.

Lastly, school principals are not among the lowest of the low in Nigeria, they’re supposed to be middle class. Why should I compare with bank managers that have worked for many years and spent huge sums of money along the line? Against someone that spent 4 million and was only starting a new career? Nevertheless, a teacher in Vietnam can also compare with them eventually if they’re focused in maximizing their side hustles by continually scaling up.

hello op please help i sent my visa application and it was returned back for modification, apparently had something to do with icao line. what i'm suppose to fill here

NaijaVietnamese:
How can someone earning over 2 million naira monthly with free accommodation & free utilities be earning peanuts

There is something called cost/benefit analysis. Someone that spent less than 4 million to travel to Vietnam and still earn a lifetime professional certificate with it, is better than someone who spent 18 million to go to Europe or Canada.

Here is the breakdown;
Vietnam;
1. You recover your total expenses in two months of working.
2. You work professionally.
3. You live the life of a middle class, above the income of the majority of citizens.
4. You have the opportunity of doing side hustles in exportation.

Europe/Canada;
1. It takes you many months if not years to recover your expenses.
2. You’re likely to end up with shitty jobs such as cleaners, care givers or security guards etc.
3. You have to juggle between jobs with extreme stress so you can pay for high cost of living.
4. You will be among the lowest income earners & live very basic lifestyles.

Lastly, school principals are not among the lowest of the low in Nigeria, they’re supposed to be middle class. Why should I compare with bank managers that have worked for many years and spent huge sums of money along the line? Against someone that spent 4 million and was only starting a new career? Nevertheless, a teacher in Vietnam can also compare with them eventually if they’re focused in maximizing their side hustles by continually scaling up.

This is just baseless generalisation, have you lived in any European country and experience this?

padua1234:

Yes

good

NaijaVietnamese:


If you present yourself as rags, your employers will also use you as rags. However, if you have something of value to offer and you have the right mindset, nobody will abuse you.

So, you should rather work on your personality and mindset.

What you said about presentation is a FACT.
The poster's childhood friend who is earning $500 definitely came with a tourist visa and was illy prepared. I imagine the poster's Childhood friend was a teacher in Nigeria earning less than 100K and is taking $500 not only because she's stranded in Vietnam but also, sees $500 as a huge upgrade being that she is likely neither paying rent nor spending money on transportation to work.

NaijaVietnamese:


What exactly is your childhood friend doing in Vietnam? Don’t tell me he is teaching?!

Hello. Please I need your help to confirm genuineness of Vietnam visa issued to someone that reached out to me.

MeinKampf:

Hello. Please I need your help to confirm genuineness of Vietnam visa issued to someone that reached out to me.

Who issued the visa to him? Agent?
If yes, he can simply ask him for log in details so he can check on their website. Or you can inbox me a copy of it.

Use the login details to check it here: https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/web/guest/home

MeinKampf:

Hello. Please I need your help to confirm genuineness of Vietnam visa issued to someone that reached out to me.

NaijaVietnamese:


Who issued the visa to him? Agent?
If yes, he can simply ask him for log in details so he can check on their website. Or you can inbox me a copy of it.

Thank you so much. It's an agent but all what he has been saying leaves much room for doubt. I know he won't release the email to him, so I'll send a copy to you. Thanks