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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by ednut1(m): 6:15pm On Jul 14
okoloto:
South east needs more states. It's not injustice only because it is not happening to you. Equal state as per region balances resource and political sharing. Creating more states will not stop regionalism. After all we know who and who is afraid of regional government.
All regions is blessed in Nigeria and I don't know why some are afraid of regional government. They prefer to share free lunch in abuja from other regions without contributing anything. Selfishness and tribalism is what is holding us down. Nigeria will be great but we need to do the right things. Competition breeds achievements. Forget the I'm not competing with anyone mantra.
what does SE currently contribute to Nigeria The IGR of ogun state is more than the 5 SE states. Almost every region is a parasite. Only SS should be talking

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Panda7: 6:15pm On Jul 14
In other theist, states could be given to private coy, who employs, program n manage economic, resource n provide VATs.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by babajero(m): 6:16pm On Jul 14
Ceenelly:
Anioma state is viable and can be self sufficient but it should remain in south south not south east.
All Anioma will be Igbo speaking people.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Goke7: 6:16pm On Jul 14
Mrexcell:




The old regional govts was just only 3 this time am sure it might be even more than 6 so no fear of any marginalisation from bigger tribes.

I see us having up to 10 regions at the end of the day. The SS will have another region out of it while up north we’ll have more regions out NW and NE and even NC.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Moonland100(m): 6:16pm On Jul 14
What most of you don't know about this state creation is that immediately Anioma or Etiti state comes to life, I trust other regions, especially the north, will create more for themselves. Let me explain better, you said you want to add one to the southeast, to make it 6, then the northeast adds one to make 7, the southwest adds one to make 7, and then you come again to add one to make 7... I am telling you within 10 years, Nigeria will reach 72 states.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Kobojunkie: 6:16pm On Jul 14
babajero:
Mr man you just wrote rubbish. During regional government there was competitions amongst regions thereby bringing massive development and enlightenment.
The north that agitated and took us to federalism though they are still covertly practicing feudalism, didn't want anything to do with development, that was why they brought about quota system in the first place, because they couldn't compete.
It was during regional government that we had many indindigenous companies and some foreign companies, where are they today?
And mind you Gowon was just a fulani puppet that they used to capture Nigeria.
Massive development and enlightenment? Are you for real? undecided

After a brief honeymoon period, Nigeria’s long-standing regional stresses, caused by ethnic competitiveness, educational inequality, and economic imbalance, again came to the fore in the controversial census of 1962–63. In an attempt to stave off ethnic conflict, the Mid-West region was created in August 1963 by dividing the Western region. Despite this division, the country still was segmented into three large geographic regions, each of which was essentially controlled by an ethnic group: the west by the Yoruba, the east by the Igbo, and the north by the Hausa-Fulani. Conflicts were endemic, as regional leaders protected their privileges; the south complained of northern domination, and the north feared that the southern elite was bent on capturing power. In the west the government had fallen apart in 1962, and a boycott of the federal election of December 1964 brought the country to the brink of breakdown. The point of no return was reached in January 1966, when, after the collapse of order in the west following the fraudulent election of October 1965, a group of army officers attempted to overthrow the federal government, and Prime Minister Balewa and two of the regional premiers were murdered. A military administration was set up under Maj. Gen. Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, but his plan to abolish the regions and impose a unitary government met with anti-Igbo riots in the north. The military intervention worsened the political situation, as the army itself split along ethnic lines, its officers clashed over power, and the instigators and leaders of the January coup were accused of favouring Igbo domination. In July 1966 northern officers staged a countercoup, Aguiyi-Ironsi was assassinated, and Lieut. Col. (later Gen.) Yakubu Gowon came to power. The crisis was compounded by intercommunal clashes in the north and threats of secession in the south.
Stop lying to yourselves !

https://www.britannica.com/place/Nigeria/Independent-Nigeria#ref517364
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Obiedun(m): 6:18pm On Jul 14
Ojiofor:


Mark you words as you be who na?
Obansanjo I know,Tinubu I know,who are you for your empty words to be marked?
Check my moniker to know who am I. I am still saying it, for you to have one extral state others will have two if not more. That is the arrangement. Keep it a secret. But then if you are too impatient we can create a state for you called 'a state of emergency'.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by JohnnA1: 6:19pm On Jul 14
Dshocker:


As far as i am concerned, regional system of government is what we need at this critical time, let every region go and manage their resources.
SHIKENA 🙌🏽
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Ojiofor: 6:22pm On Jul 14
Obiedun:
Check my moniker to know who am I. I am still saying it, for you to have one extral state others will have two if not more. That is the arrangement. Keep it a secret.

Something was agreed on(sixth state for SE) during 2014 CONFAB,extra states for other regions was it part of the agreement?
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Kobojunkie: 6:27pm On Jul 14
Moonland100:
What most of you don't know about this state creation is that immediately Anioma or Etiti state comes to life, I trust other regions, especially the north, will create more for themselves. Let me explain better, you said you want to add one to the southeast, to make it 6, then the northeast adds one to make 7, the southwest adds one to make 7, and then you come again to add one to make 7... I am telling you within 10 years, Nigeria will reach 72 states.
I believe the aim is for 50 States like America, but I guarantee you that after that, only those in Lagos and maybe in Abuja would be able to raise their heads to say life dey oK. undecided

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Iamanoited: 6:28pm On Jul 14
NIGERIA IS A 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES. AND THAT'S FINAL. TINUBU AND NASS SHOULD RETURN ALL AUTHORITIES TO THEM.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by nairalanda1(m): 6:35pm On Jul 14
babajero:
Mr man you just wrote rubbish.

During regional government there was competitions amongst regions thereby bringing massive development and enlightenment.

The north that agitated and took us to federalism though they are still covertly practicing feudalism, didn't want anything to do with development, that was why they brought about quota system in the first place, because they couldn't compete.
It was during regional government that we had many indindigenous companies and some foreign companies, where are they today?

And mind you Gowon was just a fulani puppet that they used to capture Nigeria.

The fact is, and I have read and even heard from people who were adults under regions.....regions were just as bad as states are now.

Nigeria's problem always has been that we do not fund most of our budget by taxes, but by selling resources. The problem is, one cannot fund a budget by selling oil. And if we go back to regions....well, look at how all the african countries that sell agric and minerals...they are all broke because they do not set the prices of what they sell, and their populations are growing. What makes you think NIgeria regions would be different.

Ghana has regions, and is as broke as can be.

The harsh truth is that we need to stop believing we can fund our budget by just selling groundnut, cotton, cocoa and oil. But since that means more taxes, most of us don't like the idea....so we continue believing in a false narrative.

By the way, the biggest agitators for states were minorites, not the big tribes. History proves it.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by nairalanda1(m): 6:38pm On Jul 14
Mrexcell:




The old regional govts was just only 3 this time am sure it might be even more than 6 so no fear of any marginalisation from bigger tribes.

People are complaining of marginalization in states where there is only one tribe....so dem no go complain about marginalization under regions?

The problem with regions is that if one needed to solve a problem in say the Northern region in say Maiduguri...you had to travel a whole day to Kaduna to get the problem sorted. That's why we ended up with states and broke up the regions....

States don't work because most governors are not willing to tax the populace because most Nigerians are poor. As a result, most of our revenue comes from oil. Selling more resources also has its own issues...other countries are outproducing us well well...and we can't compete.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by babajero(m): 6:38pm On Jul 14
Kobojunkie:
Massive development and enlightenment? Are you for real? undecided

Stop lying to yourselves !

https://www.britannica.com/place/Nigeria/Independent-Nigeria#ref517364
Settle down and read what you posted, it just talked about the north not being able to compete.

Nigeria is in the condition it is today because of the uncatered and unproductive populations the north and west are churning out just to win election. During regional government you don't see a region giving birth to populations like guinea pigs just to win elections just because they know they will get allocation from federation account.

It is only regional government that will address every challenges Nigeria have e.g. unnecessary movement of terrorists from one region to another will be checkmated, food shortages will be checkmated etc.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by sulaak(m): 6:41pm On Jul 14
EmeeNaka:
Agbakoba is not wrong altogether, but he failed to understand that we can't put our eggs in one basket. We have to request for more states for sake of balancing. However, if Nigeria decides to restructure, then there we are.

That is a foolish statement because other regions have more unviable states; the Igbo should also have one. Why not fight for a return to the regional system of government with 6 or 8 regional governments with full economic autonomy?

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by nairalanda1(m): 6:43pm On Jul 14
GeneralPula:

Regionalism is way better than federalism..

This is 2024, not 1904. It would be tough to oppress anybody this time..

And this is 2024, when we have 80% of our revenue coming from oil, not 1964, when the UK was still a guaranteed buyer of most of what we produced.

Plus, (you are a Northerner, I believe)...the truth is, if the North went back to groundnut, cotton, and solid minerals, it won't yield much. Even lithium we have found...China outproduces us in lithium mining. Cotton...all our neighbours in West Africa who produce cotton are being beaten to the ground by US Mass production of the stuff, and farmer subsides in the same US....

South? Cocoa is not a money spinner...ask Ghana. World leader in cocoa...yet can't get a fair price for the stuff. Palm oil...Malaysia and Indonesia are out producing us in that thing...plus they have the land mass, and the climate to do so.


The only thing Nigeria needs to do is widen its tax base....and eventually use its raw materials to make goods the world needs. And export them. Simple. Regions is just a myth.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Kobojunkie: 6:44pm On Jul 14
babajero:
■ Settle down and read what you posted, it just talked about the north not being able to compete.
■ Nigeria is in the condition it is today because of the uncatered and unproductive populations the north and west are churning out just to win election.
During regional government you don't see a region giving birth to populations like guinea pigs just to win elections just because they know they will get allocation from federation account. It is only regional government that will address every challenges Nigeria have e.g. unnecessary movement of terrorists from one region to another will be checkmated, food shortages will be checkmated etc.
So from that entire passage, na only the north you see mentioned? Kai!

2. What the heck is this? Nevermind! Abeg make I waka pass o'jare! undecided
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by sulaak(m): 6:54pm On Jul 14
babajero:
Settle down and read what you posted, it just talked about the north not being able to compete.

Nigeria is in the condition it is today because of the uncatered and unproductive populations the north and west are churning out just to win election. During regional government you don't see a region giving birth to populations like guinea pigs just to win elections just because they know they will get allocation from federation account.

It is only regional government that will address every challenges Nigeria have e.g. unnecessary movement of terrorists from one region to another will be checkmated, food shortages will be checkmated etc.

The S East played dirty politics when the Igbo-led NCNC decided to join forces with the NPC, the NPP coalition with the NPN in 1979, and the Peter Obi coalition with the Atiku PDP. The Igbo are just angry that they were not the political decision-makers today. H

An Igbo man, Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, promulgated the now-infamous "Decree No. 34," which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one.

The Igbo should first point their fingers at themselves before blaming others. Regional government would benefit the SW more than any other region.

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by ponishah: 6:59pm On Jul 14
Obiedun:


https://punchng.com/agbakoba-seeks-return-to-regional-govt-faults-agitation-for-new-states/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2uUtIvfcFwLLxLF_ph-X_cgPgEG9us2T7A3NUXa5IhbVjkMUSorfN8YRM_aem_x7DybodMmLH71QehaRiIBw

There is a big problem we have as a people, low IQ, and the fact that we this we are intelligent is the worst problem of all.
And the biggest of are our politicians, policy makers and analysts like agbakoba and all of them.

How can he say that our states are not viable?
And forgot to say that our governors become more viable than the state as soon as they become governors. What was the salaries of our past heads of states, but they became richer than the annual budget of Nigerian army immediately they became heads of state.
Our problem is not nomenclatures you bring up, anything you call it , system of government is not our problem at all.
Every system works magic in other places, OUR PROBLEM IS THE PROBLEM WITH BLACK PEOPLE - INCURABLE GREED AND INFECTIOUS CORRUPTION.

I laugh when some Nigerians complain and curse Britain for the creation of Nigeria with the amalgamation and subsequent creation of of regions and regional governance, and same people are still clamouring for going back to the same British colonial era style.

Let me ask, is not same politicians like the ones we have now that have buried this country, that will still rule?

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Obiedun(m): 7:07pm On Jul 14
Moonland100:
What most of you don't know about this state creation is that immediately Anioma or Etiti state comes to life, I trust other regions, especially the north, will create more for themselves. Let me explain better, you said you want to add one to the southeast, to make it 6, then the northeast adds one to make 7, the southwest adds one to make 7, and then you come again to add one to make 7... I am telling you within 10 years, Nigeria will reach 72 states.
They cannot understand you.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Newcastle2023(m): 7:09pm On Jul 14
Obiedun:


https://punchng.com/agbakoba-seeks-return-to-regional-govt-faults-agitation-for-new-states/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2uUtIvfcFwLLxLF_ph-X_cgPgEG9us2T7A3NUXa5IhbVjkMUSorfN8YRM_aem_x7DybodMmLH71QehaRiIBw
I believe that all the 36 States are very viable. The problem is very poor management of the resources of the States by their Governors who mostly know next to nothing about leadership and management. Many Nigerian States have more resources than many countries around the world. The problem is having leaders that lack both character and leadership capacity.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by francisobiabo(m): 7:11pm On Jul 14
Where would the land for the new state to be created gotten from? A (single) state in the North ( such as Benue, adamawa, Niger, Kogi, Borno etc) are bigger than the entire South East. Yes the argument may be that landmass does not really determine a State, however, the South East is one of the smallest region in Nigeria and truthfully speaking, it lacks the landmass for any new State to be created or carved out of it.
Thank you....
Ceenelly:
Animal state is viable and can be self sufficient but it should remain in south south note south East.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Obiedun(m): 7:14pm On Jul 14
Newcastle2023:

I believe that all the 36 States are very viable. The problem is very poor management of the resources of the States by their Governors who mostly know next to nothing about leadership and management. Many Nigerian States have more resources than many countries around the world. The problem is having leaders that lack both character and leadership capacity.
I disagree with you. The same way those who are now in government now were talking before they came into power. What have they done now. We know how to talk.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by REALretep(m): 7:17pm On Jul 14
The truth remains that one can't be doing the same thing while expecting a desired change.
The current Nigerian structure is not working...it is doomed

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Kobojunkie: 7:20pm On Jul 14
REALretep:
The truth remains that one can't be doing the same thing while expecting a desired change.
The current Nigerian structure is not working...it is doomed
When, in the history of Nigeria, was the "structure" ever not doomed? You lot are notorious for blaming the structure instead of blaming the Nigerian people who refuse to "stone" the criminals who steal and destroy their future. The structure has nothing to do with the problem which is instead the people; the Nigerian people are zombies! undecided

Democracy is a government for the people by the people. The people of Nigeria are, by design of the system, meant to be seated right in the driver's seat of their government. (Elected officials are meant to be backseaters in a democracy since they work for the people after all.) However, what we have is a situation where the people have instead taken to sitting way in the back seat while expecting the situation to magically run in their favor. They have become wailers pretending they are victims when they are instead at the foundation of the problem. undecided

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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by millionaireman: 7:20pm On Jul 14
To siphon proceeds from crude oil in the Niger delta region, to the old Northern region, too many states were proliferated by northern military dictators in the far north with no parameters used.
Thereafter, the same military dictators supervised a 1999 Constitution that makes creating new states in the shortchanged southeast next to impossible.
Now ask for return to true and fiscal federalism, northern legislators ask you to come to the NASS for political restructuring, knowing full well that the NASS is overwhelmingly and
unduely over-populated by legislators from the old Northern region, and they will surely vote down political restructuring of Nigeria to true and fiscal federalism. The charade goes on and on.
Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by Cherrylips001: 7:27pm On Jul 14
Newcastle2023:

I believe that all the 36 States are very viable. The problem is very poor management of the resources of the States by their Governors who mostly know next to nothing about leadership and management. Many Nigerian States have more resources than many countries around the world. The problem is having leaders that lack both character and leadership capacity.

Yes if only the governors can take advantage of the God given natural resources their state has and put effort in improving the strengths each state has and stop focusing only on the weakness for instance states like zamfara state is very rich with gold aside it other God given natural resources but even with all it natural resources it is still considered a very poor state that has become a home for bandits and terrorist
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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by millionaireman: 7:38pm On Jul 14
EmeeNaka:
Agbakoba is not wrong altogether, but he failed to understand that we can't put our eggs in one basket. We have to request for more states for sake of balancing. However, if Nigeria decides to restructure, then there we are.

Oga Agbakoba is like Ken Nnamani who threw away the baby (6th state for the southeast) together with the bathtub containing the purported 3rd Term ambition of then president Olusegun Obasanjo.
Since then, the southeast area has lost trillions of Naira of federal allocations as well as suffer political under-representation in Nigeria's centre of government. Where is Agbakoba going to get return to regional government from? From the National Assembly or through military fiat?
A 6th state for the southeast where it naturally fits between Imo and Anambra States should come first, since there is no likelihood in the horizon to return regional government system to Nigeria democratically
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Re: "Most States are not viable": Agbakoba seeks return to regional Government by pfadom: 7:54pm On Jul 14
True talk! It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for the political class to revert to the 3 or 4 historical regions or the 6 geopolitical zones.

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