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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by highbee02: 10:34am On Jul 15
They have started doing that already in Kwara state. They have been planting the Council Chairmen and councilors in Kwara State e.g the Chairman for Ilorin South is from Ilorin West while the councilor for Akanbi III is from Osun state who came 4th during primary. This happened cut across the 16 Local Government Areas, they imposed Chairmen and councilors,I think INEC should start conducting the council polls
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Globad(f): 10:40am On Jul 15
Melagros:
COMRADES, anyone who thinks that the so-called local government autonomy will function effectively, you are dreaming
Because the governors will definitely plant their stooges in every local government area who will be sending them returns. So the joint account will still be functional through the backdoor

Let the stooges send returns. No problem. They will face the music. Meanwhile, let the stooges remember that they have no immunity.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by onome2013: 10:43am On Jul 15
Until Nigerians stop thinking like this Fayose, the country will be stagnant. Must we use godfathers as a bridge to success, when we have our voters cards to decide on who to rule us . AN ELDER STATESMAN DEFINITION MAY ALSO INCLUDES TO BE A VERY WISE ELDERLY PERSON
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Dreamland87: 10:47am On Jul 15
Nwaikpe:
The idiot called Onanuga, speaking for the piggish government thought they could rope Peter Obi in. Peter Obi in his wisdom never replied the bastards because little did the Adviser know, politics does not play out that way.


Peter Obi has always been on the side of low cost governance. And with this supreme court ruling, lets expect every Local Government Government to have their ow 20 special advisers too, and ministers.

No be only low cost governance, na low budget governance.
Dey deceive yourself


grin grin grin grin
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by gr8child(m): 10:48am On Jul 15
He is just talking his own. Local Governments used to be very independent and very influential at the grassroots level before the current republic and nobody died. Prince Demola Adeniji-Adele was a very powerful local government chairman of Lagos Island under the IBB and Abacha regimes. State governors just want to keep local governments under their control by keeping a grip on their financial purse strings. This is understandable because governors need grassroots support to win elections and don't want any unforeseen spoilers come election time.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Funkybabee(f): 10:56am On Jul 15
Na their fear be, if a pdp candidate can win governor sit while apc president is there.


You are saying n0sense
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by CharlotteFlair: 10:56am On Jul 15
I never knew fayose was this neck deep in corrupt mentality.
The other day we saw a video of him spewing thrash in the form of advice to Fubara.
Today, he is boldly telling us that LG autonomy won't work.
Inasmuch as we know that's how these destructive old brigade ran the show, should we not be fashioning out new ways to do things differently to become better?
Must the ignominy continue?

Just like tinubu and Wike, this fayose is power drunk and a control freak.

Whether the LG chairman is put there by the governor or not, the LG should be expected to work according to a script that benefits the Local areas they supervise.
But because it's never about the people but their own self preservation, that's why fayose can never envisage anything different from the old order.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by CharlotteFlair: 11:01am On Jul 15
gr8child:
He is just talking his own. Local Governments used to be very independent and very influential at the grassroots level before the current republic and nobody died. Prince Demola Adeniji-Adele was a very powerful local government chairman of Lagos Island under the IBB and Abacha regimes. State governors just want to keep local governments under their control by keeping a grip on their financial purse strings. This is understandable because governors need grassroots support to win elections and don't want any unforeseen spoilers come election time.
I agree with you.

The governor controlling everything is why the grassroots suffer.

After elections, the governor begins to reward LGs selectively according to the numbers he got during election. Sometimes, a whole section of the grassroots is sidelined in terms of projects for a whole tenure because they didn't support the governor overwhelmingly during elections even though the states allocation belongs to all.

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by BABANGBALI: 11:17am On Jul 15
Bloody thief




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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by sukar886: 11:18am On Jul 15
Crimimal the talk
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Psoul(m): 11:22am On Jul 15
This local government autonomy is just a political gain the federal government.
We should not be jumping up believing that the federal is interested in developing the grassroots.

They are just focused on the next election. Anything that will make them win.
The local government autonomy is just to weaken the strength of the governors so that the federal can control the grassroots and use them to win election.

You'll always be loyal to who is paying you. If federal controls the local government, even a governor winning his election will be at the mercy of the president.

By so doing, the local government and the state government will be at the mercy of the federal government.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by fortune1968: 11:25am On Jul 15
Time will take care of that through amendment to the electoral laws
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Demurray: 12:01pm On Jul 15
ElevationD:
How?

The only reason why things never work can be found in the I-don’t-care attitude of the citizens. Nigerians are easily able to digest all the recklessness of the political class and yet praise them to the highest heavens.

If we must practice democracy, we must follow up in all the sense of it. We watch other democratic nations talking about their local councils. We see how local councils benefit the citizens. One wonders how governors, past and present, sermonize us on how allowing local governments run appropriately would not work.

We already know that Nigerian politics is godfather based. We know that even a Presidential candidate needs some powers that be to help him get there, how much less a governor and other political office holders. Who holds most of them by the scruff of their necks when they assume office? Even the President is checkmated by the National Assembly. So what’s Fayose talking about state assemblies? He can fool some including himself, but he cannot fool everyone. He must grow beyond his jaguda politics. A man who shortchanged his own party in the last Presidential election should not be telling us such crap. He should bow his face in shame.

We all now know that it is the law to forward local government funds directly into their accounts. We await to see that local government chairman who would forward his local government’s funds into the state government account, as a show of loyalty.

Having attained success at the Supreme Court, next would be the states to mind their areas of jurisdiction and allow local government carry out their statutory functions as spelt out by the constitution.

We would like to see INEC conducting local government elections and not state electoral commissions. We saw the examples last weekend with Adamawa and Delta states, where the ruling parties won the entire seats. That’s the loophole for governors to hold local governments by the jugular. With INEC, all parties would participate and equitable representation would be guaranteed all citizens.

We would expect EFCC and ICPC to be very active in the local governments, formulating policies that would protect the resources for development in their accounts.
Absolutely spot on💪
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by munaco: 12:03pm On Jul 15
The government know that the next election will be bloody even with the number of governors APC have, the people will have to decide the best for themselves.
Having LG autonomy will means having access to key individuals that runs the area and neglect the government because that is where the high concentration of thugs is. Tinubu and manipulation na 5 and 6.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by HRMK: 12:06pm On Jul 15
BIG FALLACY!NOT WHEN INEC CONDUCTS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTIONS!!
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Demurray: 12:13pm On Jul 15
To largely extent, the ex- governor was right and what made him to be sure of what he's saying is that fact that the LG election would be conducted by REC which is control by the governor.

I have been saying this right from the day of the judgement that the best way to go is to allow INEC to conduct the LG elections and should be scheduled the same day as the governorship elections. Though the governor may have impact in some LG to not all.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by justuschi50: 12:14pm On Jul 15
Shikena:

CORRECTION: Many government workers - Federal, State, LG.
No! I can say for state and LG but federal system has strict work culture. I know this because my dad was a federal worker he hardly miss work because of the system
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by phemray(m): 12:24pm On Jul 15
It was like that for a Very long time. reasons they didn't mostly go to work was simply because no responsibility was attached to workers with importance, everything happens at the State capital. They go and only talk politics, personal businesses and later went to Thier private farms. Normally, when they have money and many projects/ activities going on, they will be relevant and with discipline, over time everyone will be on ground.
We all have family members at home working at LG but how active were they engaged? When everyone focused on the state capitals, and the chairman comes maybe once a week or none.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Demurray: 12:25pm On Jul 15
Cmanforall:


Or electronic transmission of results.
It's easier at LG level. Everybody knows their Ward's result and can easily be added up to know who actually wins
You are right but if the REC conduct the election, sope Otis lo. .
We had experience it in our local government before, in which the incumbent chairman refused to perform and the commuter decided to vote him out as he's contesting for the second term.
On the election day, we voted for another candidate and won when we added results of the wards together even squarely, but when the result were announced by the REC it was the incumbent that won , the governor called him and gave him brown envelope to shut up or else......
That's how it was swept under the carpet
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by oyebanji(m): 12:45pm On Jul 15
Oga Ayo,

If you had not stripped them of the capability to impact their locality, I am sure they would have performed better.
By the way, there are 3 arms of govt and 3 levels of govt each with their responsibilities sir.

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Bimpe29: 12:48pm On Jul 15
Is Fayose hallucinating or what is wrong with him?

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by blacknp(m): 1:06pm On Jul 15
Melagros:
COMRADES, anyone who thinks that the so-called local government autonomy will function effectively, you are dreaming
Because the governors will definitely plant their stooges in every local government area who will be sending them returns. So the joint account will still be functional through the backdoor
Absolute imaginative nonsense, When The EFCC shows up & ask the LG to account for the money, let them tell the commission they gave it to the Governor.

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Benmsu: 1:23pm On Jul 15
This one still dey Nigeria? You no go keep quiet now till dey open your file

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Shikena(m): 1:37pm On Jul 15
That's why I said many, not most. I worked at federal level and I know many state and LG workers that never miss work.

justuschi50:
No! I can say for state and LG but federal system has strict work culture. I know this because my dad was a federal worker he hardly miss work because of the system
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by dododawa1: 1:58pm On Jul 15
Fayose

Part

of


NIGERIA


Problem
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by dododawa1: 2:01pm On Jul 15
Very

Local government chairman must accounted for very Penny

Collected from Federal government


EFCC is waiting for local govt chairman that give kickback to governors.


NIGERIA must work by force.

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by bdon12: 2:28pm On Jul 15
If not that we dey maaaad...why cant lg elections hold concurrently wit house of assembly elections
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by Honestlyfaith: 2:36pm On Jul 15
local government autonomy is just a political gain the federal government.
We should not be jumping up believing that the federal is interested in developing the grassroots.

They are just focused on the next election. Anything that will make them win.
The local government autonomy is just to weaken the strength of the governors so that the federal can control the grassroots and use them to win election.

You'll always be loyal to who is paying you. If federal controls the local government, even a governor winning his election will be at the mercy of the president.

By so doing, the local government and the state government will be at the mercy of the federal government
I don't think you are correct because the fed or presidency can not know everything and everybody at the local government
I believe the local government automony
When fayose was a governor, how much the he disbursed for local government to operate and function
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by PARADIZEPRIEST: 2:44pm On Jul 15
That old scenario will change now.The Local govt allegiance will now go to PTinunbu who fought and gave them their long denied autonomy angryayo watch and see.
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by waziriinsurance: 2:51pm On Jul 15
HOW CAN YOU EVEN SUPPORT THIS, HOW WILL A GOVERNOR MAKE A LOCAL GOVT CHAIRMAN, HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY OPPOSITION PARTY DONT WIN LG ELECTION? THIS IS WHY NIGERIAN CANNOT GROW
Sermwell:

Someone who is far more experienced than you in politics is telling you something and you're here arguing rubbish! cheesy
Without even being told, don't you know that move is trash?
A whole former governor is telling you something and you have the guts to doubt?

The masses are indeed gullible and stupid cheesy cheesy
Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by deji17: 3:01pm On Jul 15
Fayose is short sighted.

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Re: LG Autonomy Can't Work, Nobody Emerges Chairman Without The Govs - Ayo Fayose by biaframaster200: 3:01pm On Jul 15
But in the time past most especially in the 90's Chairman of local government is totally autonomous of any State governors ....but politicians has made it a governor extended Arms....

This is not what is obtainable in the developed countries....Nigeria really need restructuring ....without optimal functioning of Local government, not grass root growth .....

What a pity

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