Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,174,428 members, 7,891,847 topics. Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2024 at 08:50 PM

Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi - Politics (5) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi (6244 Views)

Hardship: I Believe In Youths, Police Can’t Stop Protest – Charly Boy / Peter Obi Explains “From Consumption To Production” / Why More Youths Will Join Boko Haram And Bandits - Shehu Sani Reveals (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by chidiokay: 6:19pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
The courts never did what you claim since LG autonomy was never broken in the first place. Rather, what the courts did was to, against the Constitution, grant control over the LG to the FG in this. undecided

2. Subsections 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 of section 162 of the Constitution have been in existence since 1999. LG autonomy has always been a part of the Law in Nigeria. Stop yammering and pay attention to your own Constitution, please. Stop allowing your politicians to diddle with your head with their many arguments meant to keep you blind and deceived. undecided


The question is, was the constitution followed since 99, or was it enforced ... nobody dey follow you argue the law was long written or not, if not that you just want to argue for arguement sake

I said "reinstated" .. find a dictionary bro cos you are just arguing off point undecided besides is it even court/judge that will pass a new law should we think local govt autonomy is new sef undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by bixton(m): 6:25pm On Jul 15
signature2012:
Whether you like or not; this man is the best person to rule this country.

You are just being a tribalist and religious fanatic to be supporting Tinubu.

Ask yourself, in the last one year, how has life treated you in the I country?

For people to be saying Buhari’s Administration is far better than Tinubu….Ha!!!






Don't say because you are close to APC politicians, and feign away from the truth.
Posterity will judge you and your family o..



Before you say PO is a better person and how has life treated Nigerians for the past 12 months. Remember, Nigeria is made up of 36 States and an FCT.
Now truthfully say how was Anambra State when PO was governor and how was life there?
How much wa PO paying as minimum wage during his administration as governor compared to Lagos and FCT?
How much was the price of food stuffs?
What's the IGR ?
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by YouAreNobody: 6:27pm On Jul 15
lanre316:
What was your investment in Anambra youths when you were the governor?
He invested in education, which is the bedrock of any progressive society and that's the reason why Anambra still tops in education to this day.
You won't know this because you're used to stomach infrastructure
NOETHNICITY:
As gov of Anambra state instead of investing in youth you chose to invest in alcoholic company so that the youths can be drunk and forget themselves

What an incompetent buffoon

1 Like

Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Zidoh(m): 6:29pm On Jul 15
Action speaks louder than voice all you people should put everything in action if talking talking . Let’s do this and that
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jul 15
chidiokay:
■ The question is, was the constitution followed since 99, or was it enforced ... nobody dey follow you argue the law was long written or not, if not that you just want to argue for arguement sake
■ I said "reinstated" .. find a dictionary bro cos you are just arguing off point undecided
■ besides is it even court/judge that will pass a new law should we think local govt autonomy is new sef undecided
The way the average Nigerian reasons is most definitely at the root of all of the problems of Nigeria!

Suppose the Law says that a husband beating his wife and vice versa is a crime, but people continue to flout the law and policemen turn a blind eye when they see a man beating his wife even in a public place, does it mean that the law is the problem and needs to be changed? Does it mean that husbands or wives cannot be sued and prosecuted for any of the crimes they have committed during all of that time when the law was in place? undecided

If nobody dey follows the law then why are you rejoicing here that the Supreme Court has twisted the law to create a new one which according to you nobody will also follow? undecided

2. You can only reinstate/restore a law that was removed or pushed out by way of legal manipulation. Section 162 of the Constitution has remained intact since 1999. The Supreme Court did not reinstate any law; rather it completely ignored the law and chose to instead assert a different idea. undecided

3. Courts do not pass new laws. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 6:31pm On Jul 15
YouAreNobody:
■ He invested in education, which is the bedrock of any progressive society
■ and that's the reason why Anambra still tops in education to this day. You won't know this because you're used to stomach infrastructure
1. Invested in education, how? By rebuilding old buildings? Are you for real? undecided

2. Anambra is tops in education, how? undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Obaranje: 6:33pm On Jul 15
oilyngbati:
Let him first solve the ipob/esn biaf.raud problem in the SE, before we take him serious
as the president of Nigeria abi as buhari solve Boko Haram and bandit problem before you voted him in twice.

Mumu talk
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by bixton(m): 6:34pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
1. Everyone is accepting it probably because like always the Nigerian people remain ignorant of their very Constitution and the many political manipulations of their political class.

See, I don't need to be a lawyer to know what the Constitution says or understand that it is being violated. I simply need to educate myself on what it says to know this. Before all of this the Constitution never granted Governors access to the Special account they were to maintain, and neither did the Constitution grant Governors control over LGs. The illegal control and dipping into LG accounts are criminal offenses and all implicated governors ought to be punished. However, this decision by the Supreme Court does three things
● It exonerates the Governors by insinuating the Constitution is to blame.
● It illegally grants the FG direct access to the LGs, shifting power over the LGs from the National and State House of Assembly into the hands of the FG. That power shift moves Nigeria well away from true federalism as currently defined in the Constitution
● Removes full control over election and removal of LG chairmen from the hands of the people at the local level to the FG. If the people have a problem with their LG chairman, they now have to tangle with FG if they wish to have him or her removed from office

The ruling benefitted the politicians. State governors cannot be impeached and prosecuted for what are crimes against the people. And the FG now garnered more control over issues at the grassroots level. The people get absolutely nothing but a lopsided government at the end of it all. undecided

2. Peter Obi does not enjoy impunity in Nigeria so you are free to demand he be prosecuted for crimes committed during his tenure. So what exactly is stopping you from doing that? undecided





Please can you help me with the section of the constitution that talks about true federalism or you can also explain to me. Let me understand what is true about our type of practice.
Thanks.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Omoejigbahe(m): 6:34pm On Jul 15
The same way the werey invested in anambra youth when he was governor. Agulu fraud.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by YouAreNobody: 6:41pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
1. Invested in education, how? By rebuilding old buildings? Are you for real? undecided

2. Anambra is tops in education, how? undecided

Anambra has one of the highest number of schools in the country. There's no need to build new ones while you can renovate the old ones and equip them with modern facilities and they'll rival any new building. I'm sure you know this. It's foolishness that makes governors to start erecting new structures while there are old structures doing the same functionality, just like my former governor, Rochas, did.

As for your second question, google is available for you to check stats. Or you're one of those your leaders who don't know the value of statistics?
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by bobby007(m): 6:47pm On Jul 15
dumahi:
If only Nigerian youths were wise and united, the Obidient Movement would have been a game changer for this country. The corrupt establishment will not invest in the youths lest their eyes open to the realities of what is happening to them.
obi is nothing but igbo agenda
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by ruffhandu: 6:47pm On Jul 15
Gandrova:
Always repeating the same words Consumption to Production. grin

Perhaps that's the only thing he is capable of achieving.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 6:50pm On Jul 15
bixton:
■ Please can you help me with the section of the constitution that talks about true federalism or you can also explain to me. Let me understand what is true about our type of practice.
Thanks.
Let's visit the meaning of Federalism. Please pay close attention to not just the definition of the term but also the example of current states that implement the system. undecided
Federalism is a system of government in which the same territory is controlled by two levels of government. Generally, an overarching national government is responsible for broader governance of larger territorial areas, while the smaller subdivisions, states, and cities govern the issues of local concern.

Both the national government and the smaller political subdivisions have the power to make laws and both have a certain level of autonomy from each other.https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/federalism
The constitution, the legal contract/agreement upon which the federation of Nigeria is defined does not talk about federalism. What it instead does is describe the design and structure of the system. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On Jul 15
YouAreNobody:
Anambra has one of the highest number of schools in the country. There's no need to build new ones while you can renovate the old ones and equip them with modern facilities and they'll rival any new building. I'm sure you know this. It's foolishness that makes governors start erecting new structures while old structures are doing the same functionality, just like my former governor, Rochas, did.
■ As for your second question, google is available for you to check stats. Or you're one of those leaders who don't know the value of statistics?
1. Having the highest number of schools means absolutely nothing if the level of education remains as poor as it is in other states in the country. But what you seem to be saying is that Obi renovated old schools and equipped them with modern facilities. What modern facilities are those? undecided

2. Nothing on Google says what you claim, and yes, I have had this debate with someone before this. According to reports, it has the best school completion records among the states, sure, but the best educational system... that is a stretch. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Obaranje: 7:01pm On Jul 15
bixton:




Before you say PO is a better person and how has life treated Nigerians for the past 12 months. Remember, Nigeria is made up of 36 States and an FCT.
Now truthfully say how was Anambra State when PO was governor and how was life there?
How much wa PO paying as minimum wage during his administration as governor compared to Lagos and FCT?
How much was the price of food stuffs?
What's the IGR ?
I am not free from Anambra, but I don't think peter made Anambra people to buy one derica of beans 2000, rice 70,000 a bag fuel 750 800 and dollar 1500

And I don't think during his tenure in government manufacturing company where closing shops and no was planning suicide
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by PHIPEX(m): 7:02pm On Jul 15
lanre316:
What was your investment in Anambra youths when you were the governor?
Go and ask those traders at Tradefair complex, they will gist you
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Ijaya123: 7:03pm On Jul 15
Santalpharay:


And you remain wherever they kept you as usual. Blind bat. You people don't want to be redeemed. Always looking at the past ( even though your claim is not true) and refusing to change the future for your good. Fight for the betterment of your children,no! After Tinubu finished with you, his children will continue dealing with your own children since you refused to act today. Tueh!

Ranting of a frustrated and bitter soul
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 7:05pm On Jul 15
Obaranje:
I am not free from Anambra, but I don't think peter made Anambra people to buy one derica of beans 2000, rice 70,000 a bag fuel 750 800 and dollar 1500. And I don't think during his tenure in government manufacturing company where closing shops and no was planning suicide
You are very much correct that he didn't do any of the above. But he certainly did impede, illegally mind you, on the powers of the LG chairmen in his state during his tenure as governor. That contributed to limiting growth at the grassroots levels during his tenure as governor. Just imagine for a minute if the LGs had been able to freely carry out their various functions in the state at the time, the state might be a very different place than it is today. undecided

Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by victorsola: 7:05pm On Jul 15
DamnnNiggarr:


Peter Obi
you mean youth that are 70% Yahoo boys
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 7:07pm On Jul 15
bixton:
■ Before you say PO is a better person and how has life treated Nigerians for the past 12 months. Remember, Nigeria is made up of 36 States and an FCT. Now truthfully say how was Anambra State when PO was governor and how was life there? How much wa PO paying as minimum wage during his administration as governor compared to Lagos and FCT? How much was the price of food stuffs? What's the IGR ?
I wish you lot had asked yourselves all of the very same questions before you installed Tinubu as president. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by ChrisblaOffurum: 7:15pm On Jul 15
Nigeria is a SHITHOLE Country. TINUBU nor OBI won't redeem it. take it or leave it. you all should Rest undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 7:17pm On Jul 15
ChrisblaOffurum:
Nigeria is a SHITHOLE Country. TINUBU nor OBI won't redeem it. take it or leave it. you all should Rest undecided
What makes it even shittier is that even after being burned several times by the many political lies fed to them, the people continue to hope in many of the same political classes of poeple. This is a nation of zombies. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Jonjam269: 7:29pm On Jul 15
The serial party defector and Pandora fraudster that only invested in hero beer during his disastrous 8years as Anambra State governor is forming Mr know it all.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by chidiokay: 7:42pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
The way the average Nigerian reasons is most definitely at the root of all of the problems of Nigeria!

Suppose the Law says that a husband beating his wife and vice versa is a crime, but people continue to flout the law and policemen turn a blind eye when they see a man beating his wife even in a public place, does it mean that the law is the problem and needs to be changed? Does it mean that husbands or wives cannot be sued and prosecuted for any of the crimes they have committed during all of that time when the law was in place? undecided

If nobody dey follows the law then why are you rejoicing here that the Supreme Court has twisted the law to create a new one which according to you nobody will also follow? undecided

2. You can only reinstate/restore a law that was removed or pushed out by way of legal manipulation. Section 162 of the Constitution has remained intact since 1999. The Supreme Court did not reinstate any law; rather it completely ignored the law and chose to instead assert a different idea. undecided

3. Courts do not pass new laws. undecided


From offpoint to wrong analogy undecided you could not even come up with an analogy that suite the discourse

At these point highlight were i said its a new law , do you "reinstate" for something "new" abi o kor fe argue nii

Becos the law has no history of implementation or activation it is more or less "INACTIVE" ..subsequently Governors impunity override that law but the court has restored it ... any local govt chairman can drag his governor to court incase, above all Funds will now be paid directly to local govts .. what never happened don pass no be big deal ... go n sit down jare
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Good2go1: 7:57pm On Jul 15
At least, he would be better than the Agbado president.
Gandrova:
With his church campaign! He should go and sit down, he has nothing to offer.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by iramure(m): 7:58pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
A visionary leader who did nothing tangible in Anambra during the same years that Fashola was in Lagos blazing trails? A visionary leader who for 7 years illegally shackled the LGs in the state and probably criminally dipped his hands into an account meant only for the LGs in his state? A man who stifled development at the LG level by his carelessness? You claim youths had at least 10 million in their accounts during his tenure, and I ask where was that money sourced from. undecided
satire
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Good2go1: 7:59pm On Jul 15
Is he Anambra governor?
Thiefobi1:


Till today Anambra state is not working .

Ekwensu.
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 8:03pm On Jul 15
chidiokay:
■ From offpoint to wrong analogy undecided you could not even come up with an analogy that suite the discourse.
■ At these point highlight were i said its a new law , do you "reinstate" for something "new" abi o kor fe argue nii
■ Becos the law has no history of implementation or activation it is more or less "INACTIVE"
■ .subsequently Governors impunity override that law but the court has restored it ...
■ .any local govt chairman can drag his governor to court incase,
■ above all Funds will now be paid directly to local govts .. what never happened don pass no be big deal ... go n sit down jare
Offpoint here is you and the analogy was to help you better reason the foolishness of what is being done to you here as opposed to what you would rather pretend the case. undecided

2. You are not as intelligent as you pretend, you know? You can only reinstate/restore a law that was removed or pushed out by way of legal manipulation. Section 162 of the Constitution has remained intact since 1999. The Supreme Court did not reinstate any law; rather it completely ignored the law and chose to instead assert a different idea. undecided

3. The Law defined in Section 162 has been ACTIVE since 1999. A Constitutional law goes into effect the moment a country is established upon it. This happened back in 1999 as far as Nigeria as a democracy; the law never experiences a black-out of any sort so long as the nation continues to exist under the system established by that particular contract.

4. Impuntity DOES NOT override the Law(See Section 308 of your Constitution). Immunity does not absolve the President, Vice-President, Governors, or deputy Governors of any of the crimes committed during their time in office. Immunity as defined by the Constitution DOES NOT impede or do away with the people's power to have any of them removed from office and then prosecuted afterward.

5. Local Government Chairmen CANNOT drag Governors for criminal cases (See Section 308 of your Constitution).

6. The Federal government sending funds directly to LGs was illegal before this ruling(See Section 162 of your Constitution). undecided

Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 8:04pm On Jul 15
iramure:
satire
The same applies to Tinubu who equally did nothing as State Governor for 8 years. undecided
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Denalarian: 8:08pm On Jul 15
NOETHNICITY:
Anambra is not the only state where the pupils do well in school

Good! That proves my point
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by chidiokay: 8:50pm On Jul 15
Kobojunkie:
Offpoint here is you and the analogy was to help you better reason the foolishness of what is being done to you here as opposed to what you would rather pretend the case. undecided

2. You are not as intelligent as you pretend, you know? You can only reinstate/restore a law that was removed or pushed out by way of legal manipulation. Section 162 of the Constitution has remained intact since 1999. The Supreme Court did not reinstate any law; rather it completely ignored the law and chose to instead assert a different idea. undecided

3. The Law defined in Section 162 has been ACTIVE since 1999. A Constitutional law goes into effect the moment a country is established upon it. This happened back in 1999 as far as Nigeria as a democracy; the law never experiences a black-out of any sort so long as the nation continues to exist under the system established by that particular contract.

4. Impuntity DOES NOT override the Law(See Section 308 of your Constitution). Immunity does not absolve the President, Vice-President, Governors, or deputy Governors of any of the crimes committed during their time in office. Immunity as defined by the Constitution DOES NOT impede or do away with the people's power to have any of them removed from office and then prosecuted afterward.

5. Local Government Chairmen CANNOT drag Governors for criminal cases (See Section 308 of your Constitution).

6. The Federal government sending funds directly to LGs was illegal before this ruling(See Section 162 of your Constitution). undecided


I was @least expecting you to start by point out where i insinuated the law as new

i don't need compliment, tell me a law that has no potency how e take beta one that was removed or flushed out whateva

How can a law that has zero implementation or record of enforce be active .. are you menstruating undecided if you download a app and never open or use it will it appear on active app, my own phone sometimes advise me to delete such apps .. thats a smart phone you should be smarter

when i said drag governors to court, its not for prosecution stop being dumb, its for interpretation & enforcement, did tinubu not take FG (OBj) to court on local govt creation, have we not seen governors drag FG (Buhari) to court, or is it not FG that sue the 36 governors to court over lG autonomy undecided criminal case kor

I won't even waste my time further, arguing the last paragraph with you,
Re: Investing In Youths Will Aid Our Journey From Consumption To Production – Obi by Kobojunkie: 8:58pm On Jul 15
chidiokay:
■ I was @least expecting you to start by point out where i insinuated the law as new i don't need compliment, tell me a law that has no potency how e take beta one that was removed or flushed out whateva How can a law that has zero implementation or record of enforce be active .. are you menstruating undecided
if you download a app and never open or use it will it appear on active app, my own phone sometimes advise me to delete such apps .. thats a smart phone you should be smarter
when i said drag governors to court, its not for prosecution stop being dumb, its for interpretation & enforcement, did tinubu not take FG (OBj) to court on local govt creation, have we not seen governors drag FG (Buhari) to court, or is it not FG that sue the 36 governors to court over lG autonomy undecided criminal case kor
■ I won't even waste my time further, arguing the last paragraph with you,
1. See how person dey reason in 2024 ooo! shocked shocked shocked shocked

2. Yes, the app is in fact active on your phone until you manually deactivate or disable it! undecided

3. Interpretation and enforcement of what exactly? Be clear on exactly why they approach the courts at least. Look again, at what the constitution says. undecided
(1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in this Constitution, but subject to subsection (2) of this section -
(a) no civil or criminal proceedings shall be instituted or continued against a person to whom this section applies during his period of office;
(b) a person to whom this section applies shall not be arrested or imprisoned during that period either in pursuance of the process of any court or otherwise; and
(c) no process of any court requiring or compelling the appearance of a person to whom this section applies, shall be applied for or issued:
More: https://jurist.ng/constitution/sec-308

4. Ogbeni, it is clear that you are not informed about the Law of your land. Please take time out to do that so you don't continue to argue like a fish-brain. undecided

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (Reply)

Ogun Lawmaker’s Wife Kidnapped / FG, States To Spend 53% Of N17.5tr Budgets On Salaries / For The First Time I Agree With Buhari

Viewing this topic: 1 guest(s)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 81
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.