AntiChristian:


Let's be clear on the abolish first!

Done away with?

Was it abolished or Changed?

If changed what was it changed to?

What's the law for fornication now?

Show us where Jesus change it in the Bible?

Let me ask u a question.
did the law exist before God gave moses the mosaic law?

SIRTee15:


Let me ask u a question.
did the law exist before God gave moses the mosaic law?

You have evaded the question now!

AntiChristian:


You have evaded the question now!

I have to ask because u making mosaic law look like an eternal law that can never be replaced.
That's why I need to ask.
was there a law b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

Fornication is a sin. sin is separation from God.
if u love God with all your heart and might- the 1st greatest commandment; why do u want to do things that will separate u from God?

SIRTee15:


I have to ask because u making mosaic law look like an eternal law that can never be replaced.
That's why I need to ask.
was there a law b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

Fornication is a sin. sin is separation from God.
if u love God with all your heart and might- the 1st greatest commandment; why do u want to do things that will separate u from God?

I think you understand my question well. Don't try to be mischievous!

Jesus was asked of the greatest commandments and he responded with the two.
Where did he replace the law of stoning fornicators with those two commandments?

SIRTee15:


Mr Man, dont teach me nonsense. bring the verse mat 5.18 here and show me any version that used the word change.
all these ignorant christians. see how u struggling with a muslim here on your own bible.

Are you not the one who first said the word "change"?

So how did He filfill The Law of Sabbath, marriage, divorce etc.?

and are these examples you gave changes?

AntiChristian:


I think you understand my question well. Don't try to be mischievous!

Jesus was asked of the greatest commandments and he responded with the two.
Where did he replace the law of stoning fornicators with those two commandments?

the over 600 mosaic laws were summarised into those 2 commandments by Jesus! that's common knowledge
now answer my question. did the law exist b4 God gave moses the mosiac law?

SIRTee15:


the over 600 mosaic laws were summarised into those 2 commandments by Jesus! that's common knowledge
now answer my question. did the law exist b4 God gave moses the mosiac law?

Show us where Jesus said he summarized all the laws into 2?

AntiChristian:


Show us where Jesus said he summarized all the laws into 2?

Mat 22
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Now answer my question.

Did the Law exist b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

SIRTee15:


I have to ask because u making mosaic law look like an eternal law that can never be replaced.
That's why I need to ask.
was there a law b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

Fornication is a sin. sin is separation from God.
if u love God with all your heart and might- the 1st greatest commandment; why do u want to do things that will separate u from God?

Is there anywhere God said somebody was coming to change his laws.
God's laws are forever.
You have to remember that Judaism and Christianity are two different religions.

It was the Catholics that stole the Jewish scriptures and added their bull shiit .books at the end of Malachi.

God's laws are for ever..anybody coming to change them are false prophets. And God asked them to stone the person. Deuteronomy 13..

SIRTee15:


the over 600 mosaic laws were summarised into those 2 commandments by Jesus! that's common knowledge
now answer my question. did the law exist b4 God gave moses the mosiac law?

There was the law of Maat
There is the code of Hamurappi..
There is also the metu neter....

The Torah was written much much later by Ezra and the priest when they returned home from the Babylonian exile....

sonmvayina:


Is there anywhere God said somebody was coming to change his laws.
God's laws are forever.
You have to remember that Judaism and Christianity are two different religions.

It was the Catholics that stole the Jewish scriptures and added their bull shiit .books at the end of Malachi.

God's laws are for ever..anybody coming to change them are false prophets. And God asked them to stone the person. Deuteronomy 13..

I'm not talking about God's law. I'm talking specifically about mosaic law.
Did Abraham obey the mosaic law.

U people are just jumping into this conversation and giving unnecessary expo

Let that Muslim guy come here and answer the question. Let him answer so I can use him to clean gutter.

Open another thread about the new testament if U have a problem with it. Pls don't derail this thread.

SIRTee15:


Mat 22
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. 35 One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[c] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Now answer my question.

Did the Law exist b4 God gave Moses the mosaic law.

I think there existed the moral laws before the mosaic.

Jesus was never changing the previous laws in those verses you quoted! It was a simple question and answer about the greatest commandments!

I don't know why you guys misinterprete clear texts like this!

So show where Jesus changed the fornication law and what he changed it into?

AntiChristian:


I think there existed the moral laws before the mosaic.

Is circumcision a moral law?

AntiChristian:

Jesus was never changing the previous laws in those verses you quoted! It was a simple question and answer about the greatest commandments!

I don't know why you guys misinterprete clear texts like this!

When U open your church, misinterprete the bible as your like. Until then don't teach me nonsense.

AntiChristian:

So show where Jesus changed the fornication law and what he changed it into?

If U love God with all your heart and might, will U fornicate?

SIRTee15:

Is circumcision a moral law?

No, Immoral law!

When U open your church, misinterprete the bible as your like. Until then don't teach me nonsense.

I no be your teacher here before!

If U love God with all your heart and might, will U fornicate?

This is implicative law and does not mean those who fornicate doesn't love God!

My question is where did Jesus change all commandments will those two laws!
The law of stoning fornicators serves as a punishment to fornicators!

That law was abolished because there is no punishment for fornicators anymore!
The Biblical Jesus did lie that he did not come to abolish the law!
And you lied that Jesus replaced those laws with two commandments.
The context you pasted showed you lied!

AntiChristian:
No, Immoral law!


I no be your teacher here before!

This is implicative law and does not mean those who fornicate doesn't love God!

My question is where did Jesus change all commandments will those two laws!
The law of stoning fornicators serves as a punishment to fornicators!

That law was abolished because there is no punishment for fornicators anymore!
The Biblical Jesus did lie that he did not come to abolish the law!
And you lied that Jesus replaced those laws with two commandments.
The context you pasted showed you lied!

Hahaha

How is circumcision related to morality.
God establish a covenant with Abraham and gave him the commandment to circumcise his descendants .
How is above related to morality.

My friend, throw in the towel. I told U your knowledge of bible is zero.
God's commandment predate mosaic law. Mosaic law is not an eternal law.

And then regarding fornication...I don't blame U as Muslim wey U be- everything na punishment.
As I can see U are confusing the law with punishment.


The law is do not commit fornication because it's a sin.

What U harping up there is punishment in case U break the law and commit fornication- it's called penal code.


For people who don't know, shariah law is not about obeying the law to please Allah. Instead, It's all about keeping the law in order not be punished.

That's why women get killed for refusing to wear the hijab.
That's why people get hacked to death for disrespecting Muhammed.

It's all about fear and not love.

That's why antichristian wants to know how Jesus instruct us to punish those who commit adultery or fornication in his new law.

The law has not been abolished. Christians are expected to keep the law of fornication and adultery.
DO NOT COMMIT FORNICATION
DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
Any Christian who does above is breaking the law!!!

Punishment was introduced by God to discourage people from breaking the law. Punishment is not the Law.
God included penal code into mosaic law because He didn't want the Israelites to end up like their pagan neighbours.

But that wasn't God's original plan. The plan of God was for people to obey his commandment effortlessly.
When people don't break the law, there's no need for punishment.
Punishment becomes necessary when people break the Law.
And that's why he promised to write the laws on our hearts when the new covenant comes.

Jeremiah 31
33 “But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel after those days,” says the Lord. “I will put my instructions deep within them, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 And they will not need to teach their neighbors, nor will they need to teach their relatives, saying, ‘You should know the Lord.’ For everyone, from the least to the greatest, will know me already,” says the Lord. “And I will forgive their wickedness, and I will never again remember their sins.”

Ezekiel also prophesied this new covenant

Ezekiel 11:19-20
And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them a heart of flesh; that they may walk in My statutes, and keep Mine ordinances, and do them; and they shall be My people, and I will be their

So what's the need for punishment when everyone knows the law and obeys it.
That's the covenant Christ brought- the law of Grace.


Obviously Muhammad didn't know about Prophet Jeremiah and Ezekiel, so wasn't aware God himself promised to do away with the law written on stones.

That's why he gave U guys another law written on stone when God himself said there will be no more physical laws.

Physical law replacing physical law full of punishments instead of love cannot be from God.That's a scam.
God clearly said he will do away with physical laws.

Open your eyes antichristian and fellow Muslims, and see the truth. Muhammed is a false prophet. His teachings contradict previous prophets.