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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 12:40am On Jul 22 |
budaatum: They dont teach certain history in schools here. Especially history that talks about British colonial racist past. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 1:39am On Jul 22 |
Zahra29: Badenoch is second generation, in the sense that she is a UK-natively born child of foreign-born parents, even though the whole concept of "generations" of immigrants is nonsense beyond the first generation (the ones who arrived from somewhere else), as descendants who are born citizens should no longer be described as immigrants of any generation. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by budaatum: 2:34am On Jul 22 |
lavida001: They can't obviously teach all history, but they do teach a lot of history here, at least compared to some places. And there's always libraries and books and telly where a lot of history can be seen. There's even a whole month dedicated to Black History, so I'd even go as far as claiming quite a lot of "British colonial racist past" is taught, which really can't not be taught since some pesky kid from India or Kenya or Jamaica or Nigeria or even Ireland would raise the "British colonial racist past" as a topic in class and cause it to be discussed. And the intention of teaching about it is so students learn to not be racist and stupid now. Below is from the history curriculum. The national curriculum for history aims to ensure that all pupils: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 4:52am On Jul 22 |
Zahra29: AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY. The founding fathers thought it was so important that they wrote that into the constitution. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 5:25am On Jul 22 |
Look at the molue that jammed Elon yesterday. Lol
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 6:00am On Jul 22 |
toughest007: toughest007: Yes its now personal attack which is typical of MAGA hats, why do you have problem with the truth? Tell me one thing i have said so far about your cult leader Trump that is not true, Just one. You see how painful its to know that you are supporting a convicted criminal, a convicted sex-abuser and a fraudster? If you and some Nigerians can over look his dirty past to support him then why are we disturbing our politicians? They are better than Trump. We support all sorts of nonsense abroad and back home we have the gut to be shouting corruption right left and centre. 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 6:23am On Jul 22 |
missjekyll: Love this from VK. Very accurate summary of the depravity that Trump represents. Was very interesting to see EM's (non) response as well - sidestepping the points and making vague, irrelevant claims about fake news - as usual from MAGAs, as if Trump's actions haven't been very well documented beyond any doubt. And I loved the very specific follow-ups from VK who, interestingly, used to be a republican himself. https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/elon-musk-vinod-khosla-twitter-exchange-donald-trump-joe-biden-democratic-nominee-us-president-2569942-2024-07-22 |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by claremont(m): 7:09am On Jul 22 |
toughest007: Trump has been convicted of a felony, he meets the criteria of being called a convicted felon. Do you have any other definition of what a convicted felon is? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by NewT123: 7:48am On Jul 22 |
missjekyll: Badenoch said in her speech in parliament said she grew up in Nigeria even though she was born in Uk. She came to live in the UK when she was 16 years old. She is a 1st generation immigrant
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Gerrard59(m): 8:11am On Jul 22 |
justwise: Tell that to Europeans who support right-wing parties because left-wing parties have failed to curtail immigration issues from mostly Muslim countries. Again, lovey-dovey folks who fail to realise that humans are tribal beings, I will be here to gloat to high heavens when Donald wins. What I pray for is a resounding victory. Audible to the deaf, visible to the blind and vocal to the dum.b. I want a victory that will be devastatingly brutal! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:29am On Jul 22 |
justwise: Hehe.. trump is not someone to be debated with. Even someone as oratorial as Obama might struggle cos while a sensible person is reeling out facts, all trump would do is latch on to a narrative, keep repeating it and make it a punch line. You are sweating this matter too much. Most Nigerians would prefer Trump only for his stance on Abortion and LQBTQ. It does not matter if he's actively working against their economic wellbeing. It's like Britain and immigration 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Gerrard59(m): 8:30am On Jul 22 |
Cyberknight:. What is the name of this church? Secondly, you are implying that southern Nigerians do not contribute or have never contributed to relief campaigns of any sort for their brethren in the north affected by the ongoing insurgency. Can you point to any figures or verifiable information to substantiate this? Unless you are specifically expecting Lagos/Abuja/PH/sundry urban dioceses or churches with wealthy parishioners to forcibly dip their hands into their parishioners' pockets and organise a wealth transfer from them to people in other parts of Nigeria, I do not see how a church or a denomination can be accused of doing nothing to support its [denominational] co-worshippers in this regard. Apart from the United States and maybe, just maybe South Korea, Nigeria has the highest concentration of wealthy pastors in the world. All of whom are located in Southern Nigeria. Aside from David Oyedepo who cried out in the killings of Christians across Northern Nigeria during Buhari's first term, NO PROMIMENT pastor in Southern Nigeria has done the same. NOT ONE! When David Hundeyin together with the late Obadiah Mailafia campaigned and lobbied for Nigeria to be listed amongst countries where more Christians have been murdered than elsewhere, the church in the south did not contribute. If it is hold hooooge crusades in the UK and Canada, the likes of CCI, Salavation Ministries, House on the Rock, HICC, RCCG, COZA etc., know how to organise such. In fact, at a point, Catholic Priests were kidnapped and killed like chickens almost every week, the Catholic Church in Nigeria never murmured. Even the Vatican was mute. Talking about RCCG, Enoch Adeboye described El-Rufai as a "kind and caring man". Iyin Aboyeji whose dad is the GO of Foursquare Gospel Church termed the brutal killings of ethnic minorities in Kaduna, all of whom were Christians as "little genocides". The orphans from these "little genocides" are being sponsored by faith-based institutions in the US by groups headed by WHITE people, not Nigerian-American or black groups o. O ye lovers of black people. When Nigeria was removed from the list at the behest of lovey-dovey Biden, only the church in the north raised concerns. Their groove and tithing counterparts in the south didn't care. There has been no outreach or scholarships offered to brilliant victims of these slaughtering by the church in the south even though some of the best private universities in Nigeria are church owned. In fact, it is AUN owned by a Muslim - Atiku - that sponsors most of these orphans. Also I do have recollections of the odd fundraising drive or other campaign fronted by one Christian leader/public figure or another over the years since the insurgency took hold. TB Joshua, CAN, Oritsejafor, etc. all come to mind, if I remember correctly. Thanks for mentioning TB Joshua even though he spent more time on mountains in South America and Israel than the mountains in Jos and Adamawa. As for Ayo Oritsejafor, he is a businessman who tries to corner the Northern market for his prosperity preachings. Good luck to him when Northern Christians have sold their remaining and unoccupied farmlands to raise money to pay jihadists who kidnapped and raped their children from hostels. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 8:47am On Jul 22 |
jedisco: Does he? Remember this image from 2016 elections 1 Like
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bolagabriella: 9:25am On Jul 22 |
Ticha:Do you make the request for interview questions from both government and private companies? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by bolagabriella: 9:26am On Jul 22 |
Schoolhike: Do you make the request for interview questions from both government and private companies? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:50am On Jul 22 |
missjekyll: You suppose wrong 😊 Badenoch describes herself as 1st gen: in her maiden speech in the House of Commons she described herself as “to all intents and purposes a first-generation immigrant.” https://www.politico.eu/article/kemi-badenoch-british-pm-tory-race/ You're right, experiences differ, nevertheless progress should be celebrated and having a person of colour/descendant of immigrants as the premier of all 4 countries in the UK is a major achievement (not replicated elsewhere) on the journey to a perfectly inclusive,colour blind society. (Unless you're waiting for the the UK Crown to become more diverse e.g. rotate between Charles and all the commonwealth nations....imagine the Oba of Ibadan on the throne 😂) 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 9:57am On Jul 22 |
claremont: Context bro, context! Next time, read and understand the context of the discuss before rushing to bail Justwise. Point to where I said he isn't. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 9:58am On Jul 22 |
Cyberknight: Badenoch describes herself as 1st generation. Perhaps because her parents weren't domiciled in the UK when she came to live here permanently. Agree, I always get confused as to the diff between the generational immigrants, although they typically stop counting after 2nd or 3rd generation lol. Most black and brown people only go back as far as 3rd generation anyways. I think people low-key use it to gauge ties to the land - how deep one's roots go. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:03am On Jul 22 |
Zahra29: Why did she add this phrase? Because she isn't. I have just called myself a 1st gen immigrant without any fancy schmancy phrases. Her parents emigrated. She was born to uk citizens. We are not the same. She only says that to legitimise her anti immigrant rhetoric. If they start locking up 1st gen emigres now, she ll run away. 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 10:16am On Jul 22 |
justwise: Please grow up bro... Grow up! Exactly why I said you ain't as intelligent as you make folks here believe. Tell me this isn't true. Or do you have a problem with this particular truth? As the class captain here, you ought to have known that you are derailing this platform and encouraging same. I need to point that out too to you. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by toughest007: 10:19am On Jul 22 |
missjekyll: ...and you know better than the founding fathers? This is exactly what I keep pointing out! Trying to sound politically correct and woke! |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:23am On Jul 22 |
missjekyll: I'm not sure Kemi is anti immigrant? Being on the right wing doesn't automatically mean that she is antiimmigrant. Most on the right advocate for lower/controlled immigration as opposed to zero immigration. Her parents were not UK citizens when Kemi was born in the UK (at least I haven't seen anything to the contrary). When she was born, UK still conferred automatic citizenship by virtue of birth, irrespective of parents status - before this was rescinded by Thatcher. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:26am On Jul 22 |
Gerrard59: And you shall have it! 7 million more votes in 2020. 14 million more in 2024 for dems. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(m): 10:29am On Jul 22 |
toughest007:As you might have noticed, a good number of people here are expressing their diverse political opinions without attacking anyone personally. This is what it should be in any civilised society. This thread is not one topic thread, if you don’t like the topic then don’t bother reading. I have not called you names or attacked you as a person. All my comments here are directed to Trump and his supporters. That said. I will not have you insult me just because you disagrees with my political views. I will not remember to mention this to you again. 18 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:33am On Jul 22 |
toughest007: They wrote explicitly that there will be no state religion. Their ancestors had fled religious persecution in England . They wanted no more of the snakeoil 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 10:40am On Jul 22 |
bolagabriella: Yes I ask for all interviews. It helps clarify my thoughts processes and because I always have notes with me, it means I can at a glance pick out which examples are suitable. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by kwakudtraveller(m): 10:46am On Jul 22 |
toughest007:On the contrary, America is not a Christian country as The First Amendment specifically prohibits the government from favouring one religion. Also the Founders' had mixed beliefs. Some founders were Christian, while others held different beliefs. https://www.uscourts.gov/educational-resources/educational-activities/first-amendment-and-religion 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 10:55am On Jul 22 |
Ticha:Are you saying it's ok to have my examples written out to prompt me when I want to answer a question? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Cyberknight: 11:01am On Jul 22 |
kwakudtraveller: Correct. Perhaps all the sound and fury around this issue would be clarified if all parties defined what they meant by a "Christian" or other religion country. Does this mean a country where the government defines it as such through the adoption of a state religion or one where the majority of the population profess to practice said religion? By the former definition, the US does not qualify and by the latter, it does. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ticha: 12:08pm On Jul 22 |
dustydee: No 😅 I have notes (aide de memoir more like) of important points/ examples to hit on each specification. Same kind of notes you'll have if debating (hark to secondary school days) or giving a presentation. I will have 2 - 3 bullet points of each of my examples on an A5 sheet and I refer to them. In fact when I talk about my skills around being organised, being detailed, juggling tasks and being analytical - I use my notes as an example of one of the ways I keep myself on track and accountable. Because day to day at work, I use notes and reminders, otherwise I'll lose track. The only civil service interview I passed (2 interviews online, failed one), I actually had all my examples written up and read off them. I do presentations for work so paraphrase a lot anyway. I had 2 screens, had the video interview on one screen and my notes on the other. Same way I do presentations. Shame they were painfully slow with onboarding! I won't advise you to do that of you'll read verbatim! 3 Likes 3 Shares |
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