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Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Legendguy(m): 9:15pm On Jul 24
I want to know, if for instance, someone stole money or get it in a dishonest way like politicians or Yahoo boys, and bought numerous houses and properties.

If such person becomes born again and died after fulfilling scripture requirements for holiness, can he still make heaven?
Knowing fully well that he acquired those properties with stolen or looted money?

Is there a need for him to do restitution?
Or should he follows the scripture in 2 Cor 5 vs 17 that says " Therefore if a maybe in Christ, old things have passed a ways; behold all things are become new
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by BeyondCertainty: 9:22pm On Jul 24
Our God is a merciful one.

He forgive murderers let alone a politician who stole money, but the sins will not go unpunished.

Thus, such person will be punished, and if he's dead, his siblings or anyone in his generation will suffer the consequences of his actions.

The heaven own is the one I don't know.

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Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 9:24pm On Jul 24
Legendguy:
I want to know, if for instance, someone stole money or get it in a dishonest way like politicians or Yahoo boys, and bought numerous houses and properties.

If such person becomes born again aydied after fulfilling scripture requirements for holiness, can he still make heaven?
Knowing fully well that he acquired those properties with stolen or looted money?

Is there a need for him to do restitution?
Or should he follows the scripture in 2 Cor 5 vs 17 that says " Therefore if a maybe in Christ, old things bypassed a ways; behold all things are become new

Zacchaus did restitution, they must do restitution. So you want to be enjoying your loot at the expense of the poor. No oh. The wages of sin is death

Them no fit make heaven
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Verbtips(m): 6:02am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


Zacchaus did restitution, they must do restitution. So you want to be enjoying your loot at the expense of the poor. No oh. The wages of sin is death

Them no fit make heaven
as question:a yahoo boy how do you go abt doing restitution??,
answer:pakage the the money and give GOD He knows how to distribute it simple
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Trueprophet91: 7:07am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


Zacchaus did restitution, they must do restitution. So you want to be enjoying your loot at the expense of the poor. No oh. The wages of sin is death

Them no fit make heaven

Zacheaus couldn't do that thing he said,it was all spore of the moment.
How many people could he even pay?

And restitution has nothing to do with salvation
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by StillDtruth: 8:12am On Jul 25
Legendguy:
I want to know, if for instance, someone stole money or get it in a dishonest way like politicians or Yahoo boys, and bought numerous houses and properties.

If such person becomes born again aydied after fulfilling scripture requirements for holiness, can he still make heaven?
Knowing fully well that he acquired those properties with stolen or looted money?

Is there a need for him to do restitution?
Or should he follows the scripture in 2 Cor 5 vs 17 that says " Therefore if a maybe in Christ, old things have passed a ways; behold all things are become new

A person who became rich by stealing and all can never repent, so dont bother.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by StillDtruth: 8:16am On Jul 25
BeyondCertainty:
Our God is a merciful one.

He forgive murderers let alone a politician who stole money, but the sins will not go unpunished.

Thus, such person will be punished, and if he's dead, his siblings or anyone in his generation will suffer the consequences of his actions.

The heaven own is the one I don't know.

If you are talking about God of the bible then when you say that their sins will not go unpunished, then you say that they did not get His mercy, which is correct because, mercy is merited.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by StillDtruth: 8:19am On Jul 25
Verbtips:
as question:a yahoo boy how do you go abt doing restitution??,
answer:pakage the the money and give GOD He knows how to distribute it simple

On top your yahoo you won kome insalt God join? Hmm! I pity you.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Mistral(m): 8:22am On Jul 25
Legendguy:
I want to know, if for instance, someone stole money or get it in a dishonest way like politicians or Yahoo boys, and bought numerous houses and properties.

If such person becomes born again aydied after fulfilling scripture requirements for holiness, can he still make heaven?
Knowing fully well that he acquired those properties with stolen or looted money?

Is there a need for him to do restitution?
Or should he follows the scripture in 2 Cor 5 vs 17 that says " Therefore if a maybe in Christ, old things have passed a ways; behold all things are become new


Yes, restitution is necessary, especially when the individual knows the locations of those they have deprived.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Babamide(m): 8:29am On Jul 25
Have you ever imagined heaven as an illusion created to stop everyone from doing evil or being evil?
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 8:56am On Jul 25
Trueprophet91:


Zacheaus couldn't do that thing he said,it was all spore of the moment.
How many people could he even pay?

And restitution has nothing to do with salvation

Restitution has alot to do with salvation. You can't tell me you hand changed without but you still have belong to your victims in use.

People who sat for other people in exams, must go to report themselves to show penitence.

Person who cheated on his wife must tell the woman what had been up when she is not looking.

If you stole money, and the people whom you stole money from are still alive. It is your duty to return what you have stolen. The only time you can decide to pay the money into offering bags is when the person or people are no more.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by IamANigerianMan: 8:56am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


Zacchaus did restitution, they must do restitution. So you want to be enjoying your loot at the expense of the poor. No oh. The wages of sin is death

Them no fit make heaven
Who told you zachaeus did restitution? Show me where he did in the bible... Some ononsense taught in your church of the years, so what the one that kill people like st Paul etc... Zachaeus appeared once in the entire bible and this now form your teaching, drop nonsense my friend
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 9:09am On Jul 25
Verbtips:
as question:a yahoo boy how do you go abt doing restitution??,
answer:pakage the the money and give GOD He knows how to distribute it simple

The subject of restitution remains a subject that many people or pastors try as much they can to avoid because they love the wages of unrighteousness.

Some yahoo boys know the victims they have scammed, some even have a well documented contacts of their scammed victims. If salvation reach them, it falls on them to contact the victims, apologize to them, and give back to them what they have taken. Another question is what if they have squandered the loot? Na to dey ask God for mercy and guidance.

E no easy to vomit wetin person don chop.

However, you can pay that into offering bags if you no longer have the victims contact or they victim is late. But if the person is still alive because you want to short cut, you quickly go and pay it into offering bag. You never do well!
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 9:14am On Jul 25
IamANigerianMan:

Who told you zachaeus did restitution? Show me where he did in the bible... Some ononsense taught in your church of the years, so what the one that kill people like st Paul etc... Zachaeus appeared once in the entire bible and this now form your teaching, drop nonsense my friend

And told you that zacchaus didn't do restitution?
For to be able to understand the context of zacchaus statements, you must dig the personality of zacchaus as person, and the kind of job he was doing before he met jesus.

Lastly, if you have anything in possession that belong to another man, return it.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Trueprophet91: 9:15am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


Restitution has alot to do with salvation. You can't tell me you hand changed without but you still have belong to your victims in use.

People who sat for other people in exams, must go to report themselves to show penitence.

Person who cheated on his wife must tell the woman what had been up when she is not looking.

If you stole money, and the people whom you stole money from are still alive. It is your duty to return what you have stolen. The only time you can decide to pay the money into offering bags is when the person or people are no more.

What if you don't have the money to pay back, does it mean you can't be saved?
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 9:21am On Jul 25
Trueprophet91:


What if you don't have the money to pay back, does it mean you can't be saved?

You can be saved. But you have one thing to do, tell your victim or the offended that you re sorry. Way back when we use to hear it from men of God, not god of men. They will tell us to do it prayerfully.

Restitution is not something you just wake up and do. You do it with guidance of the Holy spirit. Otherwise it might land you into a big mess you re not prepared for.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Trueprophet91: 9:22am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


You can be saved. But you one thing to do tell your victim or the offender that you re sorry. Way back when we use to hear it from men of God, not god of men. They will tell us to do it prayerfully.

Restitution is not something you just wake up and do. You do it with guidance of the Holy spirit. Otherwise it might land you into a big mess you re not prepared for.
Now you're talking,yet there are cases where it's absolutely unnecessary
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by IamANigerianMan: 9:28am On Jul 25
Bliztzer:


And told you that zacchaus didn't do restitution?
For to be able to understand the context of zacchaus statements, you must dig the personality of zacchaus as person, and the kind of job he was doing before he met jesus.

Lastly, if you have anything in possession that belong to another man, return it.

Useless people, You can use a verse or statement in the bible to justify anything... Most of this noƱsense teaching is from DEEPER LIFE and some of this useless church... Restitution is not biblical... God is love, if any man is Christ he or she is a new creature... Don't create fear on people, once their born again they are sins are forgiven.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by SoSlimOlak(m): 10:14am On Jul 25
He's full of mercy, slow to anger cry
Also a consuming fire šŸ”„
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Bliztzer: 10:53am On Jul 25
IamANigerianMan:


Useless people, You can use a verse or statement in the bible to justify anything... Most of this noƱsense teaching is from DEEPER LIFE and some of this useless church... Restitution is not biblical... God is love, if any man is Christ he or she is a new creature... Don't create fear on people, once their born again they are sins are forgiven.

grin cheesy grin
God is love abi?
Why is he the judge?

Some churches way back in the 80s preached the same thing. So a sinner can keep it loots and enjoy it, is that what you re saying?

When I stole from my own father, I did restitution. I told him how much I stole. I didn't hide my sin under a carpet of God is love.
Though I didn't have the money to pay him, the old man forgave me. Your repentance is not genuine without restitution.
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by Georgekyrian(m): 11:24am On Jul 25
BeyondCertainty:
Our God is a merciful one.

He forgive murderers let alone a politician who stole money, but the sins will not go unpunished.

Thus, such person will be punished, and if he's dead, his siblings or anyone in his generation will suffer the consequences of his actions.

The heaven own is the one I don't know.

Shut up, nature doesnā€™t forgive, is not merciful.. face fact and not faith, that is why we keep been slaves when we are supposed to be kings
Re: Can These Set Of People Still Make Heaven by seanery: 3:02pm On Jul 25
Religion generally is a total waste of time, and its scam.

We are all theif in one way or d other.

So, dis question no mount up

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