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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by Jflex07(m): 1:00am On Jul 26
FreeStuffsNG:
Petrol is cheap to buy and import from Malta because most oil companies are aware that it's cheaper to refine and produce Petroleum products in Malta.

If it gets expensive tomorrow, Petrol importers and refiners will go elsewhere. Watch out for Venezuela in few months time.

May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!
Keep sucking Tinubus dick for peanut..

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by grandstar(m): 1:05am On Jul 26
Malta isn't the problem!

Local refineries can compete against imports. The only drawback is the petrol subsidy that makes it unprofitable to refine petrol and sell it as already done with kerosene and diesel.

NNPC isn't the sole importer of refined petroleum products into the country. It is the sole importer of petrol as it is the only entity stupid enough to bring in the product and sell it below the purchase price. It is presently owing international oil traders $6bn for importing petrol.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by Deefirm: 1:11am On Jul 26
You're shameless Mr Man.


FreeStuffsNG:
Petrol is cheap to buy and import from Malta because most oil companies are aware that it's cheaper to refine and produce Petroleum products in Malta.

If it gets expensive tomorrow, Petrol importers and refiners will go elsewhere. Watch out for Venezuela in few months time.

May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by WikeTheDrunk(f): 1:14am On Jul 26
FreeStuffsNG:
Petrol is cheap to buy and import from Malta because most oil companies are aware that it's cheaper to refine and produce Petroleum products in Malta.

If it gets expensive tomorrow, Petrol importers and refiners will go elsewhere. Watch out for Venezuela in few months time.

May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!

Chronic ignoramus

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by malali: 1:47am On Jul 26
PSmurf:
I'm guessing you're feigning ignorance of the dark fleets that sell Venezuelan crude throughout the world? Tell me the last time you heard of one of these dark fleets being seized by the US? Or you heard of India being sanctioned by the US for buying cheap Russian crude? Just stop defending the indefensible it makes a mockery of your education and intellect.


Why cant Dangote buy from the shadow fleets ? I am glad you acknowledge that they exist. Why must he get the crude oil used to feed 300 million Nigerian citizens ?
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by malali: 1:54am On Jul 26
MrBrownJay1:


what does cement got to do with anything?
was the gov buying cement from abroad in the past? was the gov selling cement to Nigerians in the past? rice is more expensive today, is that Dangote's fault too?

Nigeria has FOUR yeye refineries that has never been able to solve Nigeria fuel problems... but if someone put $20B of their own moneyto build the biggest refinery in Nigeria (that can cater for Nigeria's fuel needs), you want to call that monopoly because Dangote's refinery could solve the Nigerian problem that Nigeria (and its 4 yeye refineries) couldnt solve?!?

If he didnt do it with cement ? Why would it be any different with Petrol. He saw an opportunity to raise his profits exponentially at the stake of the desperate Nigerian oil and gas sector turmoil. He took that opportunity. Some of us are really not blind to what is going on. Whip up as much emotional sentiments as you want. He is a private business man masquerading as a Nigerian Savior. He has never saved us from anything. Why all of a sudden now he is our Savior. Sit down and think.
If his intentions are genuine, he will conduct his business with or without the Nigerian Government.
In cement manufacturing,Nigeria gave him [b]free [/b]Limestone, [b]free
Land,free [/b]import waivers, [b]free [/b]tax concessions....yet our cement is one of the most expensive in Africa and the world.

You want to give him petrol too....because he built refinery....dey play !!

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by cyphaAhmed(m): 2:10am On Jul 26
Are you proud of yourself right now?
malali:


Crude Oil is more than just NNPC
1-Crude Oil sales is the generator of revenue for the whole country- the whole 36 states.
2-We don't provide enough crude to fulfill export OPEC quota and local refineries existing before Dangote.
3-The crude market is the world most recognized international commodity market.

4-Nigeria has the right to determine who they sell and buy crude from without any subjugation or coercion.
5-A lot of countries producing crude and exporting also import e.g USA, the crude they produce is not best suited for their refineries, so they export and import the Saudi crude in return, so crude trading is bilateral
6-Nigeria has established trading relationships with some crude buyers internationally for over 30 years, if we stop all of them and sell to dangote today and tomorrow dangote decides to not buy from Nigeria, it will be difficult to re-establish selling to our "plugs" because they might have found other customers.

7-Dangote refinery being a private business entity should source his crude from open market, make petrol and then we are sure of his capacity to function before doing business with him. Building a refinery and effectively running it are 2 different things.
8-If we get involved in Dangote refinery too early, he might use the Nigerian government to run his refinery.Because he is going to need funding and logistics to run the refinery.


Dangote Refinery is still a private business and must be treated as such. Crude oil sale is what the whole Nigeria depends on, we cannot give it to "one person" it doesnt make business sense or protect our sovereignty as a country.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by Cti28(m): 2:34am On Jul 26
malali:


Only intellectually challenged fellows need to go personal on someone sharing a different opinion.
Get well soon.


Are You FreeStuffsNG or not?

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by MrBrownJay1(m): 3:04am On Jul 26
malali:
If he didnt do it with cement ? Why would it be any different with Petrol.

hhmm let me see...
A) the Nigerian gov wasnt paying outrageous prices to get cement (from some yeye Malta factory) before Dangote came into the cement business
B) the Nigerian gov didnt have failing cement factories in Nigeria that baba Dangote had to invest $20B in order to construct a cement factory to save Nigerians and oil prices in Nigeria
C) what else do you see in your crystal ball that stops you from seeing that someone building the biggest refinery in Nigeria is a great thing for Nigerian and Nigerians (regardless of what you "imagine/wrongly assume" will happen in the future)?
D) so you are saying that NOBODY should trust Dangote because cement price is high, yet Nigerian prices are SUPER HIGH TODAY and the country is falling apart (for the last 60years) but you keep trusting the same yeye political parties to rob you of your destiny... pls do tell me, whats the difference between cement monopoly and monopoly of the same yeye political parties ruining Nigeria year in and year out? if you foolishly accept one, why are you so bitter in accepting the other?

at the end of the day, whats best for NIGERIA/NIGERIANS today?

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by StPete: 3:41am On Jul 26
VikingKing:


You will defend the devil himself as long as he's willing to pay you. Where are the imaginary dollars you once said we will save from subsidy? How much is the naira which you said will gain massively when the imaginary dollars start trickling in? Your own na to just dey form expert on every topic when you know absolutely NOTHING! What's up with the dollars you said we will save after Binance? Empty barrel!

Please check my profile for the real free stuffs grin

Thank you so much for finishing that he-goat. May the heavens be kind to you

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by malali: 3:41am On Jul 26
MrBrownJay1:


hhmm let me see...
A) the Nigerian gov wasnt paying outrageous prices to get cement (from some yeye Malta factory) before Dangote came into the cement business
B) the Nigerian gov didnt have failing cement factories in Nigeria that baba Dangote had to invest $20B in order to construct a cement factory to save Nigerians and oil prices in Nigeria
C) what else do you see in your crystal ball that stops you from seeing that someone building the biggest refinery in Nigeria is a great thing for Nigerian and Nigerians (regardless of what you "imagine/wrongly assume" will happen in the future)?
D) so you are saying that NOBODY should trust Dangote because cement price is high, yet Nigerian prices are SUPER HIGH TODAY and the country is falling apart (for the last 60years) but you keep trusting the same yeye political parties to rob you of your destiny... pls do tell me, whats the difference between cement monopoly and monopoly of the same yeye political parties ruining Nigeria year in and year out? if you foolishly accept one, why are you so bitter in accepting the other?

at the end of the day, whats best for NIGERIA/NIGERIANS today?

You make good points. I also agree with you that Nigerian government and NNPC has failed us. I however strongly think Dangote is in it for his profits. We have clear antecedents in the cement manufacturing. Nigerians do not benefit in anyway from having the largest cement manufacturer despite all the free raw materials and concessions, where he would have had to pay for if he was located in another country.
I do not know if you are ready to be objective or you are emotionally blinded due to the sufferings in Nigeria. Cement prices should be cheapest in Nigeria in the whole world.
But guess who pockets all the profit to the detriment of Nigerians. People like you are now advocating we should hand over the oil/gas sector to him.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by malali: 3:44am On Jul 26
cyphaAhmed:
Are you proud of yourself right now?

Country first, Ahmed.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by PSmurf: 4:08am On Jul 26
malali:


You make good points. I also agree with you that Nigerian government and NNPC has failed us. I however strongly think Dangote is in it for his profits. We have clear antecedents in the cement manufacturing. Nigerians do not benefit in anyway from having the largest cement manufacturer despite all the free raw materials and concessions, where he would have had to pay for if he was located in another country.
I do not know if you are ready to be objective or you are emotionally blinded due to the sufferings in Nigeria. Cement prices should be cheapest in Nigeria in the whole world.
But guess who pockets all the profit to the detriment of Nigerians. People like you are now advocating we should hand over the oil/gas sector to him.

I agree to an extent - that cement prices can and probably should be lower, but also recognize there are other competent players in the cement market that can lower their prices and take market share from Dangote if it's profitable to do so. The fact they're not doing so suggests he might be selling at a reasonable market rate. Or that there's anticompetitive collusion in the market-which a responsible federal government should investigate and put an end to.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by strangest(m): 4:14am On Jul 26
Inspirer1:
Dangote may be right with this revelation.

Not maybe... Dangote is right
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by malali: 4:17am On Jul 26
PSmurf:


I agree to an extent - that cement prices can and probably should be lower, but also recognize there are other competent players in the cement market that can lower their prices and take market share from Dangote if it's profitable to do so. The fact they're not doing so suggests he might be selling at a reasonable market rate. Or that there's anticompetitive collusion in the market-which a responsible federal government should investigate and put an end to.

This and others is what i want the government to guard against, because once we surrender the reins to Dangote refinery, we all come under his mercy.If you ask me, The person controlling Petrol in Nigeria is more powerful than the president. Trust me. Why do you think the USA goes to war in Oil countries ? Iraq,Iran,Libya,Russia,Venezuela.......Whoever controls the Oil controls the world.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by PSmurf: 4:24am On Jul 26
malali:


Why cant Dangote buy from the shadow fleets ? I am glad you acknowledge that they exist. Why must he get the crude oil used to feed 300 million Nigerian citizens ?

Because he's not a sovereign nation state.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by Calylove: 4:24am On Jul 26
This Nigerian fuel matter is confusing. When subsidy was paid, we did not enjoy fuel because we were told it was sold to neighboring countries. And our gatekeepers are the borders could not help the matter!
Now, subsidy has been removed and we still buy at higher prices. We were told that subsidy removal will stabilise the market due to competition. Now, all is confusion.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by MrBrownJay1(m): 4:35am On Jul 26
malali:
You make good points. I also agree with you that Nigerian government and NNPC has failed us. I however strongly think Dangote is in it for his profits. We have clear antecedents in the cement manufacturing. Nigerians do not benefit in anyway from having the largest cement manufacturer despite all the free raw materials and concessions, where he would have had to pay for if he was located in another country.
I do not know if you are ready to be objective or you are emotionally blinded due to the sufferings in Nigeria. Cement prices should be cheapest in Nigeria in the whole world.
But guess who pockets all the profit to the detriment of Nigerians. People like you are now advocating we should hand over the oil/gas sector to him.

come on bro, OFF COURSE DANGOTE IS IN IT FOR MONEY, why would you think he will invest his hard earned $20B, if not for profit? the catch is that, in doing so, he will most definitely also help NIGERIA (who are failing miserably with its 4 yeye refinery) and help NIGERIANS get lower prices for fuel....
now sadly, you are using your misplaced emotions to believe that its cheap to manufacture cement and/or to transport it etc. just because someone goes into an industry today, doesnt mean that prices are gonna stay the same forever.... prices of EVERYTHING is more expensive today, but there is a limit to it. the reason why all food in Nigeria are expensive is because of outrageous price of fuel, so when Nigeria get cheaper fuel (which they should get with baba Dangote) then automatically price of transporting that same food will crash, thus bringing food back to its normal price.

explain to me how price of cement should be cheapest in the world in Nigeria...especially when
A) mining for the raw material needed to create cement (limestone/gypsum) has gone sky-high in the last 10years.
B) price of diesel goes up so the price to run all the machinery to create cement goes up too
C) where do you think all the machinery to manufacture cement come from (if not abroad)? so with imported machinery and imported spare arts to repair these machineries (that you pay in Dollars), you need to understand that the price of that same dollar will impact cement production too
D) inflation plays a big part in this equation too... so just as anything else out there, price of cement has to follow the market trend. dont blame Dangote for that, blame the Nigerian gov.
E) since you claim Dangote has a monopoly on cement in Nigeria, abeg, do tell us how much are the prices of Lafarge cement, BUA Cement or UNICEM Cement? are they any cheaper than Dangote own? if it was only a Dangote issue (and not a market issue), then all other cement manufacturers in Nigeria would be half price cheaper than Dangote cement na (and people would by the other cement brands and not Dangote own)... better yet, why should the profit of DANGOTE CEMENT (aka something he manufactures himself) go to Nigerians?!?!?!

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, please, explain to me, as if i was a 5yr old child, how on earth will Dangote pocket all the profit "at the detriment of Nigerians"? the gov still makes the exact same profit from Dangote that they would make if/when they use foreign refineries anyway (the catch is that Dangote's refinery is in Nigeria and no international transaction nor middle men will be needed, thus making the process cheaper)? or do you believe Dangote gets the crude oil FOR FREE to "convert" and sell for his own pocket/profit, abi ( so now gov just give free crude oil to refineries)?!

the fact that you believe that the gov will "give crude oil to Dangote refinery scott free" instead of understanding that Dangote will have to pay for it (how can he get crude oil for free to sell for his own benefit?!?!?!?!), makes me understand you guys dont understand what a refinery does.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by tete7000(m): 4:46am On Jul 26
Melagros:
COMRADES, this is the one thing that is killing Nigeria CORRUPTION
But unfortunately the president is sleeping

Special thanks to Dangote for this exposure

The so called president is chief of the corrupts.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by tete7000(m): 4:50am On Jul 26
malali:


This and others is what i want the government to guard against, because once we surrender the reins to Dangote refinery, we all come under his mercy.If you ask me, The person controlling Petrol in Nigeria is more powerful than the president. Trust me. Why do you think the USA goes to war in Oil countries ? Iraq,Iran,Libya,Russia,Venezuela.......Whoever controls the Oil controls the world.

Abeg make una leave Dangote alone. Una get four refineries, the government you want to use to control Dangote can't make one work despite the huge overhead cost they incur in paying refineries workers. They all steal money and stash abroad while Dangote invest here and get people employed. Yet you want these greedy lots to watch Dangote. Who loves you more, Dangote or those in government who steals the commonwealth to stupor and improverish you without investing a dine back?

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by RepoMan007: 5:01am On Jul 26
malali:


Crude Oil is more than just NNPC
1-Crude Oil sales is the generator of revenue for the whole country- the whole 36 states.
2-We don't provide enough crude to fulfill export OPEC quota and local refineries existing before Dangote.
3-The crude market is the world most recognized international commodity market.

4-Nigeria has the right to determine who they sell and buy crude from without any subjugation or coercion.
5-A lot of countries producing crude and exporting also import e.g USA, the crude they produce is not best suited for their refineries, so they export and import the Saudi crude in return, so crude trading is bilateral
6-Nigeria has established trading relationships with some crude buyers internationally for over 30 years, if we stop all of them and sell to dangote today and tomorrow dangote decides to not buy from Nigeria, it will be difficult to re-establish selling to our "plugs" because they might have found other customers.

7-Dangote refinery being a private business entity should source his crude from open market, make petrol and then we are sure of his capacity to function before doing business with him. Building a refinery and effectively running it are 2 different things.
8-If we get involved in Dangote refinery too early, he might use the Nigerian government to run his refinery.Because he is going to need funding and logistics to run the refinery.


Dangote Refinery is still a private business and must be treated as such. Crude oil sale is what the whole Nigeria depends on, we cannot give it to "one person" it doesnt make business sense or protect our sovereignty as a country.
mental case.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by KingOfTheDamned: 5:24am On Jul 26
FreeStuffsNG:
Petrol is cheap to buy and import from Malta because most oil companies are aware that it's cheaper to refine and produce Petroleum products in Malta.

If it gets expensive tomorrow, Petrol importers and refiners will go elsewhere. Watch out for Venezuela in few months time.

May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!

When in future Nigeria gets very good and corruption is ended . Some of you will literally be hunted down. Same way some stood and defended Hitler back then because they benefitted from his Nazi Government and never foresaw that he would loos eto the allied forces.
Some of you here who have been marked and supporting evil will literally be hunted down one by one .
Because then there will be no tribalism,Nigeria will be united under one good leader and the youths then will be checking the internet for those like you who supported the evil in power just as the Nazi supporters were hunted down one by one and killed.
Mark this post , one day you will cry and be trying hard to explain away all the evil you supported begging to be spared. You will be seeking for people to save you with tribalism but it won't work

Have a good day

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by KingOfTheDamned: 5:27am On Jul 26
helinues:
Good

When in future Nigeria gets very good and corruption is ended . Some of you will literally be hunted down. Same way some stood and defended Hitler back then because they benefitted from his Nazi Government and never foresaw that he would loos eto the allied forces.
Some of you here who have been marked and supporting evil will literally be hunted down one by one .
Because then there will be no tribalism,Nigeria will be united under one good leader and the youths then will be checking the internet for those like you who supported the evil in power just as the Nazi supporters were hunted down one by one and killed.
Mark this post , one day you will cry and be trying hard to explain away all the evil you supported begging to be spared. You will be seeking for people to save you with tribalism but it won't work

Have a good day
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by SmartyPants(m): 5:33am On Jul 26
ugodson:
It may not be his own but the truth is not far from the current Nigerian presidents so Seyi Tinubu

Tell us more... you seem to have some info!
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by demetrio11: 5:46am On Jul 26
why
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by BALLOSKI: 5:48am On Jul 26
FreeStuffsNG:
Petrol is cheap to buy and import from Malta because most oil companies are aware that it's cheaper to refine and produce Petroleum products in Malta.

If it gets expensive tomorrow, Petrol importers and refiners will go elsewhere. Watch out for Venezuela in few months time.

May God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!
Does this even make sense to you?

Why must we import from Malta when we already have a refinery?

We know why they won't make our national refineries work- they want to keep importing and enemies of Nigeria like you would support anything in the name of politics to destroy Nigeria.

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by kalvoken(m): 5:48am On Jul 26
VikingKing:


You will defend the devil himself as long as he's willing to pay you. Where are the imaginary dollars you once said we will save from subsidy? How much is the naira which you said will gain massively when the imaginary dollars start trickling in? Your own na to just dey form expert on every topic when you know absolutely NOTHING! What's up with the dollars you said we will save after Binance? Empty barrel!

Please check my profile for the real free stuffs grin

I hope the free stuff you have on your profile, sense is among?
The Buffalo needs it so badly.
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by Kukutenla: 6:09am On Jul 26
grin grin grin
This thread funny as fvck
FreeStuffsNG must be crying is eyes out wherever he is now, probably on his dirty mattress
Thumbs up 👍 to VikingKing.
You really put the dodo in his place

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Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by caye(m): 6:21am On Jul 26
Yankee101:
They are recycling used black motor oil for use as fuel
It’s very very very dirty
It’s what you throw away when you do oil change
To get used black motor oil in large quantities, probably they are sourcing them from ships , when they do oil changes on them and large industrial plants?

*Just asking*
Re: ‘nil From 2017-2022, $2bn In 2023’; Sudden Surge In Petroleum Import From Malta' by jayce232: 6:28am On Jul 26
malali:


Yes, we want to save money, But we are not planning moving from frying pan to fire. We dont plan to give one business man with monopolistic business antecedents all the profit from crude oil sales to one business man.
You are shameless!
They don't want to support dangote because refining crude in Nigeria will end their subsidy scam which will reduce fuel price. Evil beings. Fuel is now selling for 850 naira at fuel stations.

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