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Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by Kingsempires(m): 10:40pm On Jul 26 |
AntiChristian:Idon't blame you,i will blame my fellow christians that use to debate themselves and the worse part is that they do it openly.i use to see your comment on christian argument.to see how some christian people brain work dey no go mine their business they will be put mouth for others people doctrines.that is what gives you the priviledge to post this kind of thing.mind what you say because what you say can put you in trouble.christianplease you people should stop debating yourselves.the way people's languages and cultures are different that is how people's believe is different.jesus taught us love yet you will see christian hating each others.i don't blame you is us that is bring yourself down for mulsim to be insulting us.i pray for you for God to open your eyes from this blamsemy words you wrote here,God bless you |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:42am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:So going by your understanding an Israelite who practiced what his God incorporated into the law is a thief even though he is acting in line with what was provided in God's laws simply because you want to accuse him using the unloving societal laws today shey? Well going by your judgement them Muhammad is a criminal for sleeping with a 9 years old child because it's a crime today! ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 5:54am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz:No flaws in my reasoning! Stealing is what Jesus did! Jacob stole his brother's birthright! Jesus and his disciples were hungry! They took grains that do not belong to them. So the commandment you shall not steal is an error from God and Jesus! Same as you shall not covet your neighbour's grain! The problem was that Jesus had many other options than stealing but he just chose to steal. If you were to do the same thing now it will be classified as stealing and you'll say there's no such farms again! This means human's way of life changes your God's law. It shouldn't be! Jesus stole! If you do the same you commit same offence! Hehehe, only a slowspoke would justify a man over 50yrs fingering a 4 yr old. I guess that's what you've been doing in your neighborhoods. Like prophet like follower! Bring the law he broke here or meshionu na! Jesus broke no law because no law says a man should not eat from a farm when he's hungry in Israel!Jesus stole bro! The was a people lives doesn't change God's law. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 6:40am On Jul 27 |
MaxInDHouse: ![]() The laws Jesus broke were two commandments you shall not steal and you shall not covet your neighbour's grain! What laws did Muhammad broke from your own JW Bible sir? ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 6:42am On Jul 27 |
Kingsempires: I actually believe the real Jesus will never steal nor covet others grains but we only talk about what was written about him which he himself was unaware of! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 7:02am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:Okay, I can see that you just deliberately want to destroy yourself. No need to argue with someone who is on a deliberate path of self destruction. No one present during the event said Jesus stole except a Mohammedian slowpoke who lives thousands of years after the event. Bring the law he broke here or meshionu na! God's law was "eat in any farm. Don't take anything home from the farm." You're the one who is stealing Nairaland by using it when it is not your own. Go and practice what mohammed did in Lagos. Let's see if you won't be imprisoned for life. Both you and the useless father of the 4yr old kid! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 7:13am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz: I can go to Japan and marry a 13 years. You are illogical. Even in Angola and Phillipines I can successfully marry 12 years old with parental consent! It's not a must to live in Lagos! Back to Jesus and his disciples stealing! If you go to a farm and do the same what will be your crime? Thefts according to common law! Won't it also be theft according to the same biblical laws You shall not steal? Of course it will. Jesus literally approved the commandments You shall not steal! Jesus said "Ask and you shall be given"! But he didn't ask! He just stole! And I heard he was a carpenter! Was there no job? Even with fishermen and tax collector yet there were hungry and stole! I tire for this imbroglio o! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 7:33am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian: No, mohammed married a 4yr old. Give commensurate example. A man of over 50yrs whose dirty manhood is still rising to a 4yr old girl's private is certainly under demonic control. He was even fingering her at such an age! Jesus acted according to the law. Deal with it. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 7:38am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz: ![]() Which commandments did he break? Your arrogance and ignorance is a compound one! Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam acted within the law! Jesus broke the law just as he stopped the law of stoning adulterers and said it's what comes out of a man that defiles a man and not what goes into him. So you can eat anything! Hunger bad! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 7:45am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian: Keep blaspheming Jesus if that makes you happy. The law says anyone can eat anything in a farm as long as he or she does not take anything home. Jesus acted within the ambits of that law. No one arrested Him. No court prosecuted Him. Only a slowpoke Mohammedian finds it necessary to blaspheme and thus accuses Jesus. You'll reap what you're sowing except the truth was not known by you. I don't need to argue with you at all. But regarding Mohammed and his dirty manhood, I will continue to pester you with it. A demonic man who calls himself a prophet is still getting erection on a 4yr old at an age over 50yrs. A bastard! Criminal prophet! See what Meta AI said about such a heinous crime as committed by the mohammed criminal.
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Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 7:55am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz: Should I ask AI in which country is it permitted for many adults to steal brazenly from a farm openly due to hunger? I don't need to call anyone bastard or criminal as my parents taught me well. You've been showing signs since your very first comment! And I have a leash on my anger as our Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam taught us well! ![]() Stealing is forbidden! Jesus stole! Ask AI your questions well! You should have included the name of our Prophet and see AI tutor you! Help me ask this one above too? |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:29am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:According to God's word any Israelite who eats grains inside the field due to hunger is not stealing and it's stated that stealing according to God's word is taking the grains out of the field. Muhammad committed a lot of offense going by the laws of God! • Muhammad is not a descendant of Jacob the last three names of the patriarchs {Genesis 3:15} mentioned in line with prophethood so he is a fraud. • Muhammad never performed any miracle to show that he was sent by the same God of Israel yet he wants to prove he was sent by the God who equipped Moses with powerful signs to prove God's backing. • Muhammad started fighting and killing the Arabs who has been worshipers of idols all their lives claiming they should worship only one God something those people never knew all their lives. • Muhammad married a woman old enough to be his mother thereby laying down a legacy that no one not even you will welcome in your family. Àbí can you welcome a woman of 40 years as wife for your 25 years old Son? • Muhammad failed to control his libido, slept with the wife of his adopted son and claimed God approved it. • Muhammad established a black stone as God in Mecca and forced the people to start WORSHIPING it something that's against the laws of the God he claims to represent. • Muhammad started a false religion with no useful message for mankind leading billions of people into killing one another even while they are all claiming worshipers of some Allah, something the true God of Israel detests. You must love your neighbor is a commandment for those claiming brothers and sisters within the same faith but Muhammad's religion failed to maintain love and peace among worshipers of his Allah. I can go on and on so don't even go there. The grains Jesus and his disciples picked belongs to an Israelite who can never ever accuse them of stealing because what they're doing is approved by their God! ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 9:11am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian: You should ask AI if the law says you can enter a farm to eat when you're hungry but you cannot take anything home from the farm, does that make anyone who eats from the farm a thief? That's the right question, you slowpoke. AI says your mohammed is a criminal. Mohammed was actually sex maniac and a demon possessed paedophile. I've included AI responses for your low IQ to peruse. 1 Like
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Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by Kingsempires(m): 10:04am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:but no one in the scirpture said Jesus steal so why are you saing Jesus steal from someone |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 10:41am On Jul 27 |
Kingsempires: But what he did eating other people's grain is stealing even if no one talked about it. Jesus said to the rich ruler to obey the commandments and "You should not steal" was among... |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 10:49am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz: AI is quoting United Nations Convention laws for you! This is plain foolishness and stupidity of the highest order! Use your Bible and quote one law broken there as i have quoted two! But AI is your new found Bible! Stealing is the act of taking someone else's property without permission or legal right, especially dishonestly and with the intent to keep it for oneself. It involves the unauthorized appropriation of something that belongs to someone else, typically with the aim of depriving the rightful owner of its possession or use. Stealing is considered a criminal offense in most legal systems and can have various consequences depending on the severity of the act and the laws of the jurisdiction where it occurs. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by Kingsempires(m): 10:50am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:oga i'm tired of You.anyhow you understand it that concern you and God. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 11:24am On Jul 27 |
MaxInDHouse:But stealing is still stealing sir. If your grandkid were to do what Jesus did today copying Jesus will you tell her that the law has been cancelled or your country law forbids what Jesus did? It is stealing and covetousness. Moreso other options were available for him to have used to get food if famished! Muhammad committed a lot of offense going by the laws of God!Genesis 3:15 ""And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." ![]() • Muhammad never performed any miracle to show that he was sent by the same God of Israel yet he wants to prove he was sent by the God who equipped Moses with powerful signs to prove God's backing.He did many miracles and the Qur'an is the greatest of them. I thought you claim you were a mosque goer before, so what did you learnt then in mosque? Nothing! Miracles of Muhammad is on wikipedia go check am! • Muhammad started fighting and killing the Arabs who has been worshipers of idols all their lives claiming they should worship only one God something those people never knew all their lives.Old man dey lie. Hope your grandkids won't inherit lies from you sir. Muhammad fought wars both defensive and offensive wars! He was persecuted for years by his people till he migrated to Madinnah were Islam grew by leaps! He didn't start by fighting and killing Arabs as you lied! He preached on the streets and he was stoned! • Muhammad married a woman old enough to be his mother thereby laying down a legacy that no one not even you will welcome in your family. Àbí can you welcome a woman of 40 years as wife for your 25 years old Son?The age of marriage of Muhammad and Khadijah has never been authentically reported by any Muslim scholar. Even if we take the report to be true, what law did they break according to your scripture? Probably they broke the law of your Governing body of Jehovah witnesses! They broke no law! Khadijah was previously married and later married him. My son will marry based on piety and love for Allah! What age did Jehovah stipulate for marriage in the Bible? • Muhammad failed to control his libido, slept with the wife of his adopted son and claimed God approved it.He did not sleep with anyone he is not meant to sleep with! His adopted son is not his biological son! And she was divorced! In Numbers 31, Jehovah got 32 virgins of war particularly at Numbers 31:40 after killing all the men and non-virgin women! How can Jehovah get 32 virgins of war just like that? • Muhammad established a black stone as God in Mecca and forced the people to start WORSHIPING it something that's against the laws of the God he claims to represent.The Black stone was not from the time of Muhammad but Abraham. So you lied again! And no Muslim worships the black stone! There was a time Muslims face Jerusalem for prayers before turning to Mecca! • Muhammad started a false religion with no useful message for mankind leading billions of people into killing one another even while they are all claiming worshipers of some Allah, something the true God of Israel detests. You must love your neighbor is a commandment for those claiming brothers and sisters within the same faith but Muhammad's religion failed to maintain love and peace among worshipers of his Allah.Both Jews and Christians kill. Most European countries are Jews and Christians! There's a shooting almost everyday in USA. Is that not what is called the signs of end time? And there can't be peace anywhere except where your Jehovah wants peace. Na your Jehovah cause everything according to your Bible! I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, JEHOVAH, do all these things. Isaiah 45:7 But there's peace in Saudi Arabia and Dubai than there is in Jesus's Israel! And there's no Christian country after Jesus! I can go on and on so don't even go there.The grains belong to the Israelites that were against him. Why didn't Jesus ask for it before taking it? (Matthew 7:7), Why didn't Jesus remember Matthew 4:4 ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Don't be a clown sir! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 11:25am On Jul 27 |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 11:27am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:You mohammedian slowpoke, Mohammed was neither a Jew nor a Christian, we cannot use the Bible for him! However Saudi Arabia where Mohammed committed the crime is a founding member of the United Nations Convention, hence the UN law applies to Saudi Arabia and therefore Mohammed is a criminal according to that law! If the criminal Mohammad was alive today, the dirty prophet would be in jail. Stealing is the act of taking someone else's property without permission or [b]legal right, especially dishonestly and with the intent to keep it for oneself. It involves the unauthorized appropriation of something that belongs to someone else, typically with the aim of depriving the rightful owner of its possession or use. Stealing is considered a criminal offense in most legal systems and can have various consequences depending on the severity of the act and the laws of the jurisdiction where it occurs.[/b] The bolded describes your folly and confirms that indeed you have a very low IQ. Jesus had legal right because the law said any hungry man can eat from any farm. That gives anyone the legal right to eat from any farm. Jesus didn't do anything dishonestly. He went freely like anyone else in the open glare of everybody because He was doing something not special. Jesus didn't keep anything to Himself. He only ate and left. Your definition still does not apply to Jesus. By your definition, Jesus didn't steal. Can you see that? You slowpoke. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 11:42am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz:Use your Bible laws now or tell Holy spirit to manufacture laws for you! Legal age in Saudi is 18 years but court can grant marriage to a child of 15 and under if she has reached puberty and there's an established benefit to the child! Based on this law, Muhammad passed with flying colors! The bolded describes your folly and confirms that indeed you have a very low IQ. Jesus had legal right because the law said any hungry man can eat from any farm. That gives anyone the legal right to eat from any farm. Jesus didn't do anything dishonestly. He went freely like anyone else in the open glare of everybody because He was doing something not special. Jesus didn't keep anything to Himself. He only ate and left. Your definition still does not apply to Jesus. By your definition, Jesus didn't steal. Can you see that? You slowpoke. If Jesus and his disciples were to do same stealing today, they will all be crucified probably with you! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 11:49am On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:According to this slowspoke, a 4yr old whom his dirty Mohammed defiled has reached puberty. How old are you? Mohammed passed with pedophilic colours. Lol. If Jesus and his disciples were to do same stealing today, they will all be crucified probably with you! But there's no proof they did any stealing, you slowspoke. Their actions were legal according to Israel's law at the time. But same cannot be said of the imbecilic, demonic and murderous paedophile called mohammed. The criminal was also a thief. He was even accused of stealing. Lol. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 11:59am On Jul 27 |
FxMasterz: He slept with his wife after she reached puberty! No use lies kill yourself! But there's no proof they did any stealing, you slowspoke. Their actions were legal according to Israel's law at the time. But same cannot be said of the imbecilic, demonic and murderous paedophile called mohammed. The criminal was also a thief. He was even accused of stealing. Lol.Of course the carpenter's son, fishermen, tax collector and others stole grains from a farm! They had no job, no money and couldn't even ask people to help! I remember Jesus did curse the fig tree when he was also hungry too! Hunger bad! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by FxMasterz: 12:36pm On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:Slowpoke no one reaches puberty at the age of 9. And we must consider that the criminal started fingering her when she was 4! The demon of Islam has corrupted your thinking! He started fingering her at the age of 4 and inserted his dirty manhood into her when she was just 9. A man over 50yrs o! He was probably insane! Mohammed is a criminal! Of course the carpenter's son, fishermen, tax collector and others stole grains from a farm! They had no job, no money and couldn't even ask people to help! According to a slowpoke Mohammedian. What is Mohammedianism? It is the art of marrying a girl at 4, fingering her at 4, and having sex with her at 9 when you are already past 50yrs of age. It can also be defined as the art of stealing expensive cloths and still calling yourself a prophet without proving your innocence. 1 Like |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:07pm On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian:This is where you are wrong! The laws in Jesus' day differs from what we have today. ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by Minime10(m): 7:48pm On Jul 27 |
AntiChristian: You should better be careful with your mouth, before you destroy yourself. Being a JW is no licence to speak blasphemy against God. You're probably looking for likes over this post that is devoid of tact & wisdom. You better repent and seek God's forgiveness before it's late. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by Iamanoited: 2:20am On Jul 28 |
FOR EVERYTHING IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH BELONGS TO GOD. |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13am On Jul 28 |
Kingsempires: Oya prove you're a real Christian nah! Instead of observing how real disciples of Christ deal with different religionists you are following the sons of disobedience who can't offer you anything tangible other than wicked intentions. Luke 6:45 ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:16am On Jul 28 |
Minime10: See your life! ![]() Who told you AntiChristian is a JW?
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Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 10:45am On Jul 29 |
Minime10: I am not a JW ooooooo! And i am not looking for likes! Holy Spirit has confused you go and resubscribe to it! |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:37am On Jul 29 |
AntiChristian: That's problem of misinformed churchgoers. Once someone didn't agree with their religion such a person is a JW! ![]() |
Re: Did Jesus And His Disciples Steal Or Not? by AntiChristian: 11:57am On Jul 29 |
MaxInDHouse: What changed, God's law or man's? And does man's law affect God's or vice versa? |
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