IjeBos:


Narrowly defined by who?
You don't live in the US. And so you don't get a say.
You have 0 idea what you are talking about.
She is African American as defined by African Americans in the US.

Shut the Fuq up.

Don Lemon disagrees.
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1819355567070077022

We have receipts.

-Lord

@budaatum, one police station burning in Sunderland. the people are angry about two-tiered policing which is obvious now. I will say, all sides are just wrong but the negligence of the politicians will only make things worse.

AmazonTopaz:

He said what any sane person will say about the protest. His stance on the conflict is the normal dem position.
There is now way you win Pennsylvania and lose Michigan that hasn't happened since 1988. The polls show her doing better in Michigan than Pennsylvania (I don't trust polls) but then the Arab population in Michigan is insignificant to do any damage. She needs Black support and White support to win there and she will.

I think he is somewhat to the right of where I think the Dem. party wants to be on this. He's closer to Biden's position than what I think Kamala would be.
Kamala will be on top of the ticket, so to me it doesn't matter much, but I think the Muslim population in Michigan is ready to take a burn it all down stance. (and I know I'm overgeneralizing, but this is from the interviews of Michigan Muslim voters I've heard).
Will it matter? I don't know. I think as the election get closer and people really have to decide to actively make a choice that will put Trump back in power, attitudes may change.

IjeBos:


Yeah. Buttigeg would have been a good choice, outside of what you mentioned and not sure he offers any electoral help.
The Palestinians in Michigan is the problem with Shapiro. Harris does have empathy but still part of the Biden administration. And the way their community sounds, they were willing to burn it all down and go with Trump to make a point. So, she is on that edge with their support. But, I'll trust that they polled enough to see any potential issues in MI.

I don't even understand why they will pivot to Trump, same Trump that banned visas for Muslims, but let them make their choice and live by it

LordAdam16:


😀😀😁😂😂🤣

They think this is 2016.
Ethnically fluid DEI hire.

-Lord

Just love the internet which never forgets.
Thanks for the link.

LordAdam16:


Don Lemon disagrees.
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1819355567070077022

We have receipts.

-Lord

I don't think Republicans or anyone should focus too much on the color of her skin. whether she is black or not is not that important.

.

sanpipita:
Kamala Harris VP is likely Josh Shapiro

he is Jews, might be a problem due to the ongoing war in Gaza which may possibly hinder her votes in the Muslim community. It's risky.

ObaIgwe1:


In swing states, even the small Arab numbers matter.

I would have suggested Pete Buttigieg; guy is smooth communicator and will take any GOP to the cleaners in any subject debate... But for his orientation, I doubt America is truly ready for it. So while Kamala has to overcome those who are still biased against her race and gender, it will be an overload for her to also have to deal with homophobia.

In my estimate. Shapiro still seem to be the wiser pick, Harris strong empathy for innocent Palestinian loses might help soften those Arabs' stand.

This is one of the disadvantages of the compressed time frame.
VP pick vetting and strategizing ideally takes several weeks.
She's making a bet without some of the helpful, traditional data points that'd have been available in a normal election cycle.
Kelly and Shapiro both have drawbacks.

I fully expect Progressives, Arabs/Muslims, and the Youth segments to raise a stink about Shapiro.
You can't say Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza then go pick Shapiro who went after the protesters while the official death count is about to cross 40K.
It is a f*ck you to Arabs/Muslims.
But Harris needs to boost her chances in the Rust Belt; so she does not have much wiggle room.

I also expect the media to suppress the mini-revolt like they did the disaffected Bernies in 2016.

-Lord

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

IjeBos:


I know he's your boy but you're both siding. He lies when he's wrong. Call a spade a spade.

A lot of his positions/conspiracies if you look closely enough are based on lies, misconceptions, or incorrect facts. And those incorrect facts are the crux of his conspiracy.

I mean you can't argue a poll is created by Dems to prevent people from voting. But then be [b]Wrong or not Understand that that poll was created by a Republican leaning pollster, a famous one at that. It kills your whole point, No?[/b]

At the italics,


That's not true. Trust me. If you care to know, I'm for Harris and I kinda agree to some of the democratic tenets even though I don't stay in the State.

And your second paragraph,

Giving that both of you are on different sides of the divide, statement like that is expected. No qualms.

At the bolded,
You're right. I kinda agree with most of your takes and like I said, he occasionally misyarn but that does not take the fact that he is good with fact and figures?

Cheer!!!

bemeruca:


I don't think Republicans or anyone should focus too much on the color of her skin. whether she is black or not is not that important.

It isn't important.
But have you taken stock of the Kamala positive press since Biden stepped down.
It is a f*cking boulder rolling down the hill.

You have to throw anything capable of throwing it off its course.
It does not have to be sportsmanly.
The objective is to slow the roll.

The fact that it became a national topic of discussion is a testament to it being an effective play.
Trump reinserted himself briefly into the coverage. And they didn't treat this as though Trump called her the n word. That's a win.
Now, we can move on to something else.

The stakes are very high.
Trump cannot allow her become a female Obama. She is very close to that threshold.
And unlike a traditional campaign, she just needs to sprint across to the finish line in 90 days.

-Lord

sanpipita:


I don't even understand why they will pivot to Trump, same Trump that banned visas for Muslims, but let them make their choice and live by it

They will stay home.
It's a hopeless situation when your relatives are being slaughtered and you're given the choice between a ticket with a pro-Israel guy and the administration still sending weapons to Israel and an actual J**.
I don't know how anyone can look at how spirited the protests have been and think Shapiro will not be a huge drag on the ticket.

Biden needs to deliver a ceasefire before the election otherwise Shapiro could very well seal Harris' defeat.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


It isn't important.
But have you taken stock of the Kamala positive press since Biden stepped down.
It is a f*cking boulder rolling down the hill.

You have to throw anything capable of throwing it off its course.
It does not have to be sportsmanly.
The objective is to slow the roll.

The fact that it became a national topic of discussion is a testament to it being an effective play.
Trump reinserted himself briefly into the coverage. And they didn't treat this as though Trump called her the n word. That's a win.
Now, we can move on to something else.

The stakes are very high.
Trump cannot allow her become a female Obama. She is very close to that threshold.
And unlike a traditional campaign, she just needs to sprint across to the finish line in 90 days.

-Lord

The positive press is as usual, that's what they do. They lie.

Like I said before, trump should have just let Biden carry through and have the debate weeks before the election. You see a weakness on your opponent, you stick to it. Now the msm are doing all they can to influence the election. And trust me, people are stupid, they cannot use their brain or think for themselves. For example, look at IjeBos 😂

To much energy is spent on that nonsense. Also, trump should not be going to any media that invites him. He was lucky cnn was objective in the debate.

LordAdam16:


Don Lemon disagrees.
https://twitter.com/TimRunsHisMouth/status/1819355567070077022

We have receipts.

-Lord

Again.
1.) She is African American as defined by the US
The US Census defines African American

Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

2.)Don Lemon is making an argument strictly delineating based on is she a descendent of slaves or descendent from someone coming out of Jim crow.
It's a long debate and I'm not debating that point with you.
I will amend my statement and say 95% plus of African Americans will say she is African American.
Don Lemon and your argument means someone like Biggie Smalls, Malcolm X, Colin Powell and Kerry Washington wouldn't be considered African American.
It's stupid

What's the difference between you and Trump trying to tell Black people in the US how they should identify.

SpaceX:
he is Jews, might be a problem due to the ongoing war in Gaza which may possibly hinder her votes in the Muslim community. It's risky.

They should go ans vote for Trump then make their eyes see shege

IjeBos:


Again.
1.) She is African American as defined by the US
The US Census defines African American


2.)Don Lemon is making an argument strictly delineating based on is she a descendent of slaves or descendent from someone coming out of Jim crow.
It's a long debate and I'm not debating that point with you.
I will amend my statement and say 95% plus of African Americans will say she is African American.
Don Lemon and your argument means someone like Biggie Smalls, Malcolm X, Colin Powell and Kerry Washington wouldn't be considered African American.
It's stupid

What's the difference between you and Trump trying to tell Black people in the US how they should identify.

Good you amended your earlier statement.
All Trump wants is that 5%+ to question Kamala's authenticity.
He needs to keep some of the Black voters he had painstakingly gained since 2020.
This is now a race of razor-thin margins.

-Lord

budaatum:


Yet, here is you making it an issue because of the sustained Kamala bump.

happney65:


They should go ans vote for Trump then make their eyes see shege

Josh Shapiro served in the IDF. Voluntarily.

Imagine asking an anti-Zionist Arab to vote for an IDF soldier.
Have a heart!

-Lord

bemeruca:
@budaatum, one police station burning in Sunderland. the people are angry about two-tiered policing which is obvious now. I will say, all sides are just wrong but the negligence of the politicians will only make things worse.

I think burning down a police station will make it worse for the police station burner, but they might at least be lucky and not have to share a prison cell with migrants.

LordAdam16:


Good you amended your earlier statement.
All Trump wants is that 5%+ to question Kamala's authenticity.
He needs to keep some of the Black voters he had painstakingly gained since 2020.
This is now a race of razor-thin margins.

-Lord

This is mostly blather.
Kamala Harris is Black American.
There is no one who is going to vote for Trump that would have voted for her because of this issue. What this issue will do is remind black people of how racist Trump is.
You wouldn't have a clue about any part of US culture. Because you understand the US through your phone with a filter of right wing propaganda.
You should stick to getting your facts right instead of pretending to be an expert on US blackness.

What is hilarious, you are trying to export the tribalism that makes Nigeria as fuxed up as it is to the US in support of a Racist who thinks you are shit and the country you live in is a shithole.

Nigerian MAGA support is a mental disease.

basilico:


Just a quick one. Who the fuq with a straight mind endorse Kamala Harris?

You ask who endorsed?

I think you should wait to see how many people actually vote for her so you can claim they all have unstraight minds.

budaatum:


You ask who endorsed?

I think you should wait to see how many people actually vote for her so you can claim they all have unstraight minds.

Give me a name . Just one who can endorse that wrecked train

reccy:


At the italics,


That's not true. Trust me. If you care to know, I'm for Harris and I kinda agree to some of the democratic tenets even though I don't stay in the State.

And your second paragraph,

Giving that both of you are on different sides of the divide, statement like that is expected. No qualms.

At the bolded,
You're right. I kinda agree with most of your takes and like I said, he occasionally misyarn but that does not take the fact that he is good with fact and figures?

Cheer!!!

That's good to hear. You know given all the corruption, tribalism and lack of accountability in Naij, I'd assume more people would be open to the Dems message and someone like Trump would be too familiar a candidate and anathema. You know I still don't have a clear understanding why most Nigerians on this board/thread support Trump, well outside of my assumption of Religion.

IjeBos:


This is mostly blather.
Kamala Harris is Black American.
There is no one who is going to vote for Trump that would have voted for her because of this issue. What this issue will do is remind black people of how racist Trump is.
You wouldn't have a clue about any part of US culture. Because you understand the US through your phone with a filter of right wing propaganda.
You should stick to getting your facts right instead of pretending to be an expert on US blackness.

What is hilarious, you are trying to export the tribalism that makes Nigeria as fuxed up as it is to the US in support of a Racist who thinks you are shit and the country you live in is a shithole.

Nigerian MAGA support is mental disease.

You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

budaatum:


I think burning down a police station will make it worse for the police station burner, but they might at least be lucky and not have to share a prison cell with migrants.

but you see what I was warning you about. this is happening because the police arrested a lot of innocent people the other day for nothing. the two-tier policing will bite them hard and it will only get worse.

LordAdam16:


You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

You are really insecure aren't you.
You were made a fool with these lies/spam in the EPL thread. You literally ran away when you were asked to prove your point.
Don't let me embarrass you some more.
Some more of your quality logic: "I won't answer your question in this EPL thread where we can talk about anything because I won't litter it, but I will litter it with me spamming the same thing. derp derp derp. -Lord dumFuq"

LordAdam16:


You'll have to go to the US Politics thread and follow the conversations we had on the topic.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4261#131112144

Ask the same question on that thread if you wish and I'd answer you.
I'm not going to let him litter this thread with his nonsense. He'll feel inclined to do the same elsewhere.
On this thread, I'll persistently respond to anything related to him with prepared, canned responses.

-Lord

The lying dishonest Lord Dumfuq.
MAGA is weird
And Nigerians who live in Nigeria, who burn their data to support MAGA are weirder.

IjeBos:


You are really insecure aren't you.
You were made a fool with these lies/spam in the EPL thread. You literally ran away when you were asked to prove your point.
Don't let me embarrass you some more.
Some more of your quality logic: "I won't answer your question in this EPL thread where we can talk about anything because I won't litter it, but I will litter it with me spamming the same thing. derp derp derp. -Lord dumFuq"



The lying dishonest Lord Dumfuq.

You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

LordAdam16:


You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

LordDumfuq nuggets of wisdom

-Dems are forcing Republican pollster Scott Rasmussen to say Harris is up by 5 points in the polls to keep Republicans from voting to help Dems… derp derp derp.

-A poll said something different today than a different poll said yesterday.. Explain it.. Derp Derp Derp

This was a week ago.

LordAdam16:


THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT 24 HOURS APART.

Explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing?
EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS!
-Lord

Now that all the polls are showing the same trend.
Did you figure out that polls can change from day to day even though they are asking the same question, especially after an event like a President dropping out of a race?
Lol

IjeBos:


LordDumfuq nuggets of wisdom

-Dems are forcing Republican pollster Scott Rasmussen to say Harris is up by 5 points in the polls to keep Republicans from voting to help Dems… derp derp derp.

-A poll said something different today than a different poll said yesterday.. Explain it.. Derp Derp Derp

You've already accepted that you were wrong when you implied that all African Americans consider her to be an African American.

I stick to the topic, call out your BS, and avoid the rest of your st*pid nonsense.
You're an id**t!

So this is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord

ijebosb:
This was a week ago.



Now that all the polls are showing the same trend.
Did you figure out that polls can change from day to day even though they are asking the same question, especially after an event like a President dropping out of a race?
Lol

You're an id**t!

This is the latest roundup of your f**lishness.

Explain how 12 - 10 = 2?
Explain how 12 - 10 is not 5 is right wing propaganda
Show that RMG Research is "Republicans favorite pollster"?
You admitted you were talking out of your ass by speaking for the entire African American community in the US that everyone accepts that Harris is an African American.

BAST**D!

-Lord