Really?

Valhalla nko?

Michael547:
You mean people are conscious after death?

Warwick slave, you really want to hear an explanation of hell from an apostate?

Michael547:

So you mean that death and hell fire will be not exist after being thrown into the lake of fire?

Is the lake of fire a place of literal fire just like hell fire? If yes, how come it is able to burn death and Hell fire?

Lake of Fire is not opened now. It's a literal fire because both the body and soul will be thrown into it t, after the 2nd resurrection of the wicked.

Hell fire and death are spiritual evil condition or place or entity.

So yes, they will be burnt in the lake of fire, which will burn all physical, spiritual, immaterial or material entity.

Remember it's God's design, and there's nothing God cannot do, even things we humans cannot fully comprehend.

Just believe the word of God

Michael547:

You mean people are conscious after death?

In Hell (Hades)... Yes they are conscious of their sinful lives on earth

Jokerman:


In Hell (Hades)... Yes they are conscious of their sinful lives on earth

What is the conscious part of them?

DoWhatThouWilt:


Warwick slave, you really want to hear an explanation of hell from an apostate?

Is that what you call yourself?

Jokerman:


Lake of Fire is not opened now. It's a literal fire because both the body and soul will be thrown into it t, after the 2nd resurrection of the wicked.

Hell fire and death are spiritual evil condition or place or entity.

So yes, they will be burnt in the lake of fire, which will burn all physical, spiritual, immaterial or material entity.

Remember it's God's design, and there's nothing God cannot do, even things we humans cannot fully comprehend.

Just believe the word of God

So you are saying that hell fire is not a literal fire?

How do you know that the lake of fire is physical and where will it be located?

So how come a physical and literal lake of fire would now burn a spiritual death and hell fire?

Explain with bible verses.

Michael547:

What is the conscious part of them?

The Soul Sir, which is the spirit of God.(Which is our consciousness)

Our body is the house of the soul which is exactly our being... So if we let our bodies control our spirit man in the wrong way, it will lead down the path of destruction.

1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

Jokerman:


The Soul Sir, which is the spirit of God.(Which is our consciousness)

Our body is the house of the soul which is exactly our being... So if we let our bodies control our spirit man in the wrong way, it will lead down the path of destruction.

1 Peter 2:11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

So you are saying that the spirit and the soul are the same?

Michael547:

So you are saying that hell fire is not a literal fire?

How do you know that the lake of fire is physical and where will it be located?

So how come a physical and literal lake of fire would now burn a spiritual death and hell fire?

Explain with bible verses.

1. Hell Fire is the spiritual place of rebellious and sinful spirits/souls. When humans die, their physical bodies drop and buried, but their spirit beings (soul), go on to live and cannot actually die because the soul is eternal (From God).

2. The Lake of Fire will be both for physical and spiritual death. Which is the second death. It is not open yet, until it's set time.

Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

From the bolded Sir, we can see that the two people were literally thrown alive into the Lake of Fire 🔥.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Now the spiritual entity are also thrown into the Lake of Fire.

This tells us that the Lake of Fire is the end of all physical and spiritual nonentities to God.

However, for spirits and people( who will be in their resurrected dirty and sinful bodies), the Lake of Fire is eternal, as God is eternal.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Jokerman:
Hell fire is the wrath of God against his disobedient creatures.

There's is no coming out after a soul enters there until the second death of Lake of Fire where Hell Fire will be thrown into as well.

The devil fights tooth and nail for humans to join in his abode, thinking it will hurt God very much as God loves humans dearly , however God has already made a provision for Man to escape the wiles and deception of the Devil, in the person of Jesus Christ.

See what Jesus Christ said about Hell Fire:
Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


Accept Jesus as your Lord and Personal Saviour Now
No one can fight God
Stop listening to the voice of the devil
Overcome the power of Sin by accepting the cleansing blood of Jesus..

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Shalom

Where did you get the idea that the devil does whatever he likes?
Or you think say the devil no get owner?

Or you think there is something God created that he can not control..

Be insulting God while thinking you are making sense...

Kontinue

Jokerman:


Both are enemies of God.

And they will be destroyed and eternally punished in the presence of God and His holy angels

[i]Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

God get enemy?

Do you know the meaning of omnipotent?

Jokerman:


Hell is where the devil and his agents are condemned to.... God created it as a punishment for them and any rebellious person who follows after the Devil- Hence it's an enemy of God.

Death is an Enemy of God.

Lake of Fire is where God will destroy all enemies

God is the divine universal consciousness...not a man

The devil is just the moon (an Orisha)
Satan is just the Wind (an Orisha)
They are laws and principles of existence.
I wonder why Christians worship them?

sonmvayina:


God get enemy?

Do you know the meaning of omnipotent?

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

StillDtruth:


When you say "death came for him" or when you confess " you saw hell" were they chairs and plates?

It's called personification..

sonmvayina:


Where did you get the idea does whatever he likes?
Or you think say the devil no get owner?

Or you think there is something God created that he can not control..

Be insulting God while thinking you are making sense...

Kontinue

God created all things.

But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.

God is not a man.

sonmvayina:


God is the divine universal consciousness...not a man

The devil is just the moon (an Orisha)
Satan is just the Wind (an Orisha)
They are laws and principles of existence.
I wonder why Christians worship them?

Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour

It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator

Jokerman:


James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.


1 Corinthians 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

Yes...I understand that..

The last fight between Marduk( The living God) and inanna ( the Orisha of death). The story says Marduk won at the end..I know that...

But humans are God spirit+ dust of the earth.
So which one is going to hell, God's spirit or dust of the earth?

Jokerman:


God created all things.

But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.

God is not a man.

Yes I understand that...
Only man is created in God's image...

All others are not..
The devil is just the moon, (the prince of darkness)
Satan is the wind (the Lord of the air)..

Lucifer is the princess of death...

So I don't understand you.
If God spirit fails to fulfill it's mission the first time it is sent again and again..till it is done..I don't understand why God will send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire...does not make sense to me ..does it to you?

sonmvayina:


Yes I understand that...
Only man is created in God's image...

All others are not..
The devil is just the moon, (the prince of darkness)
Satan is the wind (the Lord of the air)..

Lucifer is the princess of death...

So I don't understand you.
If God spirit fails to fulfill it's mission the first time it is sent again and again..till it is done..I don't understand why God will send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire...does not make sense to me ..does it to you?

That is how God wants his thing to be.

So if we are wise, we better be on God's side and avoid the everlasting fire of torment.

And there's only one way to escape it.

Hope you know it?

Jokerman:


Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour

It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator

But God warned every one not to have "any other God before him" meaning no intermediary or middle man...and he also forbids us from worshipping the likeness of anything in heaven like the stars and moon or on earth like human beings and animals or the waters under the earth...don't you think worshipping the likeness of a man (Jesus) is ok with God. As if God knows this will happen. He warned us before hand .

Just my advice..

Jokerman:


That is how God wants his thing to be.

So if we are wise, we better be on God's side and avoid the everlasting fire of torment.

And there's only one way to escape it.

Hope you know it?

You did not answer my query?
Why would God send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire? Explain to me how it makes sense to you?
When the Bible speaks of salvation it is only from physical danger. David wrote those psalms because Saul was after him.at death, God's spirit returns to him and the body returns to the earth...

Why would God send his spirit to "hell"?

Jokerman:


Christians are human beings that worship God in truth and in spirit by the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, who they accepted as the Lord and Saviour

It's occultic people that worship created things and not the creator

You are not worshipping the creator..

You are worshipping a man(a Jewish man) as God..That is idolatry if you ask me. God to God directly as he commanded us...try it for one week as see if he will not answer it.. I found God when I drop Jesus. He was the one blocking my access to God. Now I go to my creator directly and he answers all my prayers....no intermediary or middle man...I give him alone all the adoration...

Jokerman:


God created all things.

But any being that chooses to disobey God will be punished by God.

God is not a man.

What about Jesus??

sonmvayina:


But God warned every one not to have "any other God before him" meaning no intermediary or middle man...and he also forbids us from worshipping the likeness of anything in heaven like the stars and moon or on earth like human beings and animals or the waters under the earth...don't you think worshipping the likeness of a man (Jesus) is ok with God. As if God knows this will happen. He warned us before hand .

Just my advice..

Lol....

Hear God speaking.... 👇

Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.


Jesus Christ Himself Speaking 👇

John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
10:30 I and my Father are one.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Question

So why can't we follow what God said, by asking us to hear from Jesus Christ?

StillDtruth:


Who cares?

But clearly, i can say so that all of them there can be giving themselves gbas gbos gbus.

Satan go blow death hell go stab satan death go chop kingxams, liephinix, go shoot lordreed, kushite go burn maxindhouse, demon dey tear janosky head. etc while fire is till burning all of them, all these going on forever

Just look at what is going on in your head. It's clear you are sick in the head for real.

sonmvayina:


What about Jesus??

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

From the verses above, we see that Jesus is both God and Man.

Making him the express connection between God and Man, after the devil stole it through sin

Jokerman:


Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

From the verses above, we see that Jesus is both God and Man.

Making him the express connection between God and Man, after the devil stole it through sin

Saying the same thing.
All Christian ideas...

Has got nothing to do with God
We are all image of God....

Jokerman:


Lol....

Hear God speaking.... 👇

Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.


Jesus Christ Himself Speaking 👇

John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
10:30 I and my Father are one.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Question

So why can't we follow what God said, by asking us to hear from Jesus Christ?

You are not following what God said..
You are following what Christianity is saying.

Christianity is a mockery against God...

sonmvayina:


You did not answer my query?
Why would God send his spirit to burn in an everlasting fire? Explain to me how it makes sense to you?
When the Bible speaks of salvation it is only from physical danger. David wrote those psalms because Saul was after him.at death, God's spirit returns to him and the body returns to the earth...

Why would God send his spirit to "hell"?

So when God spoke about this, you call him a liar??

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 9:48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.


Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.


Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

sonmvayina:


You are not following what God said..
You are following what Christianity is saying.

Christianity is a mockery against God...

I took everything from the word of God.. the Bible.

sonmvayina:


Saying the same thing.
All Christian ideas...

Has got nothing to do with God
We are all image of God....

Yes.

But we have sinned and fallen short of God's glory, since Adam, and it passed to us.

Only through Jesus we are qualified to go back to God and be with him both body and soul, at the last day.

Anything short of that, is against God.

Stop reading the Epic of Gilgamesh and the likes, so that you won't be deceived at last