BlueRayDick:


What is the alternative to alternative to Western education?

If almajari education provides that the young northern child roaming the streets will not break into ur house tomorrow in search for his next meal, then I don't see reason to talk down on it.

If u think Jonathan was pandering to the northern agenda by coming up with the almajari school system, then what do we call the act of labelling boko haram terrorits "repentant boko haram" which happened all through Buhari's regime?

BlueRayDick:


Hmmmm... To be fair, this video looks like a calculated attempt to rile the people up against the government.

For starters, the video cannot be authenticated. Nobody can confirm if that was a recent incident or an old video. Nobody knows whether the person shot in that video is a criminal or law abiding citizen.

I am not a person to give excuse for Nigerian police's excesses neither do I support police brutality (Because I've once been a victim), but sometimes there's danger in making judgment from a few seconds video.

When I was in school, a cultist killed a fellow cultist and decided to escape on bike. The indigenes gave him a pursuit that lasted about 6 to 7 bus stops till the killer cultist jam traffic. He began shooting sporadically till he was out of bullet and the mob descended on him.

The joint police and soldier men on patrol tried to intervene by asking what was the cause of disturbance of paublic peace. Immediately the security operatives heard what crime he had committed, one of them just drew his weapon and unalived him right there. They picked up his corpse and that of his victim on their way and that was the end.

If that shooting was caught on camera and it lasted just few seconds, I'm sure a lot of human rights groups and societies will be making a lot of noise about an innocent and defenseless man getting shot at close range without fair trial.

Whatever the case may be as per the intention of the video, I believe the people that published it this period are achieving their aim going by the comments under the video

Segedinho:
I don't understand this..

Is this d student loan itself or just a stipend to cushion d effect of d economy on the side of the students..

Cos what is this??

Oasisx

Larride

https://x.com/NELFUND/status/1820738896642076966

Theflint1:
Lol, the Almajiri school system was designed to provide education for those kids in spite of their cultural practices which makes conventional forms of education difficult...the project Fashola was criticizing had not even been allowed to run for 3 years before he shot it down.

Fashola criticizing the Almajiri system with those reasons he gave was APC doing their normal end justifies means sort of politics, same way they played politics with subsidy, only to say later that they knew it was the right step, but chose to politicize it then.

GloriousGbola:


What is almajiri education? There was never any plan beyond building school structures. Did we ever see an almajiri teacher? Or the books intended to teach them? Have we actually seen any concert plan by northern leadership to tackle this?

I have said it before, the north is simply a fuedal structure where there are few ultra wealthy people, a scattered middle class and millions of peasants. All held together by rigid Islamic orthodoxy, ulamas and Islamic clerics who tell you the poor will enter Al jannah first.

As to repentant boko haram, that was simply the north going for federal character. If militants got amnesty and scholarships, we should get the same too. Our time to chop even if money is finished.

swiz123:


The police has no right to execute a subdued alledged criminal. The video I just watched it outright murder.

Only the Judiciary determine the punishment of a convicted criminal, not the executive as enshrined in our constitution.

GloriousGbola:


What is the end product of an almajiri school? Did it even have a curriculum? Did it have a path to actual skills? It was just gej pandering to the north by dashing them money to build structures that would not be put to use.

Theflint1:
Lol, the Almajiri school system was designed to provide education for those kids in spite of their cultural practices which makes conventional forms of education difficult...the project Fashola was criticizing had not even been allowed to run for 3 years before he shot it down.

Fashola criticizing the Almajiri system with those reasons he gave was APC doing their normal end justifies means sort of politics, same way they played politics with subsidy, only to say later that they knew it was the right step, but chose to politicize it then.

OasisX:




.....read what Fashola said again but with open mind devoid of any political sentiment this time around.

Instead of segregating it as Al-Majiri School, kuku build more Primary Schools then enrol these kids free of charge.

What will be the curriculum of this so called Al-Majiri Schools if I may ask?!

GloriousGbola:


Almajiri system was simply poor people sending their children to live with Islamic scholars to be trained. The children when not in Ile kewu were put on the street to beg for alms.

GloriousGbola:


Well to do Hausas do not like western education. They look for alternatives. That is why so many of them were in the Sudan university.

BlueRayDick:


Nigeria is a country where MC Oluomo was caught on camera threatening a certain demography of the electorates who decides to vote against his preferred candidate. The police spokesperson claims the statement was a joke and laughed it off. On the election day, the threat was carried out as MC had intended. What happened thereafter?

Nothing! Absolutely nothing.

If for a second u believe Nigeria is a country where the law reigns supreme, then u need to have a rethink. Anything and many things dey happen for this country.

GloriousGbola:


What is almajiri education? There was never any plan beyond building school structures. Did we ever see an almajiri teacher? Or the books intended to teach them? Have we actually seen any concert plan by northern leadership to tackle this?

I have said it before, the north is simply a fuedal structure where there are few ultra wealthy people, a scattered middle class and millions of peasants. All held together by rigid Islamic orthodoxy, ulamas and Islamic clerics who tell you the poor will enter Al jannah first.

As to repentant boko haram, that was simply the north going for federal character. If militants got amnesty and scholarships, we should get the same too. Our time to chop even if money is finished.

swiz123:
https://www.nairaland.com/8176584/food-crisis-register-n40000-rice#131354948

I am still very optimistic that this rice is not the same one Oasis is talking about, because nobody on this thread claimed to be a civil servant.

Oasis, stop keeping me in the dark and update me on the progress you have made thus far.

I believe I am speaking unbehalf of many in this thread.

Theflint1:
Yes, and the almajiri education system was supposed to bring education to the kids at that level...so while the cultural practice might continue, the government works around these practices to give the kids more than just that Islamic education.

Theflint1:

This is beyond the presence or absence of schools, these kids are not in school because their parents searched for schools and didn't see, they're out of school because they don't even see the need for schooling in the first place. For special problem like this, you need unique solutions that go beyond just building more schools.

swiz123:


I am not unaware of this.

Your post passed off as someone trying to justify illegal execution by the police. Nobody knows what the man did and the policeman murdered him at his own discretion.

During this period and worst in the North, this can cause serious revolution if a devilish mind twists this situation properly.

swiz123:
https://www.nairaland.com/8176584/food-crisis-register-n40000-rice#131354948

I am still very optimistic that this rice is not the same one OasisX is talking about, because nobody on this thread claimed to be a civil servant.

Oasis, stop keeping me in the dark and update me on the progress you have made thus far.

I believe I am speaking unbehalf of many in this thread.

GloriousGbola:


What is almajiri education? There was never any plan beyond building school structures. Did we ever see an almajiri teacher? Or the books intended to teach them? Have we actually seen any concert plan by northern leadership to tackle this?

I have said it before, the north is simply a fuedal structure where there are few ultra wealthy people, a scattered middle class and millions of peasants. All held together by rigid Islamic orthodoxy, ulamas and Islamic clerics who tell you the poor will enter Al jannah first.

As to repentant boko haram, that was simply the north going for federal character. If militants got amnesty and scholarships, we should get the same too. Our time to chop even if money is finished.

GloriousGbola:


Can you show an actual teacher that was engaged in this program? Can you show an actual curriculum? Can you entail why there would be almajiri schools when there were already regular govt schools that provide free education?

So what exactly were the almajiri schools bringing to the table? It was just another of gejs white elephant projects what wasted money without any actual target

GloriousGbola:


Can you show an actual teacher that was engaged in this program? Can you show an actual curriculum? Can you entail why there would be almajiri schools when there were already regular govt schools that provide free education?

So what exactly were the almajiri schools bringing to the table? It was just another of gejs white elephant projects what wasted money without any actual target

Amoto94:

There were plans including free meals and school materials. I happened to assist someone with a report and during our discussion- I asked are they attending the schools? The person replied no that the people are not interested despite the efforts made by stakeholders to make it work. You can take a camel to the river but you can't force it to drink from the said river

OasisX:




......yet you believe building Al-Majiri Schools is all needed to fix the problem?! Suddenly both Parents and Kids will pick interests in Education because Al-Majiri Schools are built?! LOL!

OasisX:


....cc Theflint1.

Theflint1:
Building Almajiri schools wasn't all there was to the initiative, and the idea was supposed to be a merge of what the parents are interested in (Quranic education) with what society needs (Western/conventional education).

monerozi5590:
Bangladesh protest don enter another level. They storm prime minister palace. Prime minister resign, japa go India.

Theflint1:
APC had a campaign against the almajiri education initiative, same way they waged a campaign against subsidy removal in 2012...9 years later those northern kids are still out of school and Nigeria's are suffering the consequences of not removing subsidy when we should.

GloriousGbola:


Can you show an actual teacher that was engaged in this program? Can you show an actual curriculum? Can you entail why there would be almajiri schools when there were already regular govt schools that provide free education?

So what exactly were the almajiri schools bringing to the table? It was just another of gejs white elephant projects what wasted money without any actual target

It was in the midst of what to do with the increasing number of almajirai that the federal government led by former President Goodluck Jonathan began constructing model tsangaya/almajiri schools across the country as part of the Almajiri Education Programme.

Those in charge of the initiative at the time said it was done to help the almajirci system become more mainstream in basic education.

However, years after Jonathan has gone, experts believe the initiative has flopped because the federal government left the concept to states that were right from the beginning not bothered about resolving the problem around almajirci.

Also, most of the clerics championing the karatun allo were evidently reluctant to key into the initiative, which would have paved the way for the children to learn both Qur’anic and western education under one roof.

Daily Trust Saturday reports that the Jonathan administration spent about N15billion to build no fewer than 157 tsangaya model schools across the northern states, which are now sadly in a poor state due to poor maintenance, funding and acceptability by those they are meant for.

According to a response to a Daily Trust Saturday enquiry from the Universal Basic Education Commission (UBEC) on April 4, 2022, the commission constructed, equipped and handed over the 157 model almajiri schools to states.

It showed that Gombe State, for instance, has at least five of such schools, Katsina 10, Kano 12 and Niger 10

However, an investigation by our reporter found that most of the schools are in bad shape, even as many of them are struggling to remain afloat.

Learning infrastructures in the schools are fast deteriorating at a time when the menace of out-of-school children is on the rise

Findings revealed that it was only in 2021 that the President Muhammadu Buhari-led administration moved to modify the strategy, according to disclosures by the Presidential Steering Committee on Alternate School Programmes.

The UBEC has a specialised department called the Department of Tsangaya (Almajiri) Education Programme to address the problems of out-of-school children, especially on basic education.

Although the UBEC stated on its website that the almajiri schools were handed over to respective Universal Basic Education Boards (SUBEBs) in states, some chief functions of the UBEC, according to its mandate, inspired this report

The UBEC has the mandate to coordinate the activities of SUBEBs that are related to the Tsangaya Education Programme; and it is vested with the mandate to collect, collate and report the status of tsangaya model schools to the UBEC management.

However, some of the almajirai said they were happy being in the school as they felt they were better than their counterparts roaming the streets.

Malam Isah Musa, an assistant teacher who has spent six years in the school, said he was made an assistant teacher after he became the most senior almajiri (or pupil) in the school.

“In terms of feeding, those of us who have means of income cater for themselves, while the younger ones beg for food like any other almajiri,” he said.

He appealed to the government to assist them with blankets and mats for the over 70 pupils in the school.

The pupils, on their part, asked for more teachers, as findings revealed that there is only one teacher in the school, called Malam Sulaiman Umar.

Theflint1:

This is beyond the presence or absence of schools, these kids are not in school because their parents searched for schools and didn't see, they're out of school because they don't even see the need for schooling in the first place. For special problem like this, you need unique solutions that go beyond just building more schools.

OasisX:




......read this your post again, then read Fasola's opinion on this matter one more time.

OasisX:
“If you train people to acquire certain skills, you must develop avenue where the skills will be useful and that will be the end gain. For instance, graduates of our technical and vocational colleges will become our major contractors.

“And so, it worries me, what is the end gain of products of the Almajiri schools? Will you put your child there? Will a company looking through its job appraisal consider such graduates from Almajiri schools? What chance will the product of the Almajiri schools have working for multinational companies? Are we giving the children a chance when we segregate them into Almajiri schools? Think about it.”

- Raji Fashola