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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:55pm On Aug 06 |
Walz is a bad pick. What did Kamala smoke. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:57pm On Aug 06 |
cococandy: This is what Trump's support is about, bigots who feel he allows them to comfortably say their bigoted shit. And he doesn't think past this individual bigotry. White Supremacists would say this same thing about Black people. Even the term 'DEI' he used is a stand in for 'Nigger' now. ono: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:00pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: I personally like Walz, he has alot to bring to the ticket, just need to fight off whatever propaganda GOP hopes to use against him 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:01pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: If it is Walz, 2 thoughts on the pick. 1.) Shapiro is still young, doesn't want him to try to upstage her. Same route George Bush II went with 2.) They polled his past Muslim comments and they didn't like what they found. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:13pm On Aug 06 |
From the look of things moderates, independents and most unions are leaning Dems, these are very important demograph, let's see how coming weeks goes 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:17pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos:What Muslim comment? He said nothing wrong. They are idiots. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:19pm On Aug 06 |
Minneapolis 2020 will play everywhere till election day. Shapiro was right there to appeal to moderates this was how Hillary picked that bad Tim Kaine. I hope this gamble is worth it because I want her to win. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by cococandy(f): 2:19pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos: They think they’ll be exempt because they are “one of the good ones”. Until it’s time for them to seek a seat at the table then they’ll know their irrational fears and bigotry were only being used as a means to an end. And end where straight white men own everything and everyone and we’re back to calling them Massa. Bunch of shortsighted scallywags 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:20pm On Aug 06 |
sanpipita: She caved to the antisemitic left. I don't feel this pick at all. I am worried that this will affect her reach with swing voters. Minneapolis 2020 hurt Dems in 2020. Republicans will play so much with this. Shapiro was right there man.. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:21pm On Aug 06 |
sanpipita:I have nothing against Walz. I just hopw that they have something that they can use to counter attack what Republicans bring up because trust me they have an arsenal with this pick. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 2:23pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: I don't think it's antisemitism, that's the propaganda people want everyone to believe in, they would have also called out Shapiro if he was picked too. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 2:23pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: Shapiro would have been the best. The people she doesn't want to offend are infinitesimal and can't do any damage She just pandered too much to the Far Left |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:34pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: Look it, he compared some of the University protestors to the KKK "We have to query whether or not we would tolerate this if this were people dressed up in KKK outfits or KKK regalia," he said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper in April, comparing pro-Palestinian protestors to the Klu Klux Klan. And wrote this when he was 20. Palestinians will not coexist peacefully,” Shapiro wrote. “They do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.” I think the view on what is going on in the Middle East has shifted among the younger Dems. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 2:37pm On Aug 06 |
happney65: She listened to more democrats than independents. I can't blame her, she is surrounded by them (democrats), and to some extent she has to listen to them because they got Joe to step down for her. I like Tim though, I am just worried about Pennsylvania... Hopefully Shapiro will still campaign for her.... But it would have been better the campaign is not starting from Pennsylvania and today. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:38pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: That antisemitic word is thrown out too much. Look at the protests going on in Israel, is that antisemitism? Israel is not the US. We have to be able to make choices that are best for the US. Look it our troops and soldiers are in the Middle East again, because Netanyahu decided he wanted to kill someone in Iran. That's nuts. Too much going on and it seems Netanyahu wants to stoke the fires of a full blown multi country Middle East war because he knows the US will always back his stupid decisions. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 2:39pm On Aug 06 |
Walz is a safe pick. Between Shapiro, Kelly, and Walz, heaven knows Walz is the dream Republican pick. Shapiro should blame Netanyahu. He hates him already and this would amplify the hate. If Netanyahu had given Biden his ceasefire, Shapiro would have been tapped. Whitmer/Shapiro beats Harris/Walz. And if this ticket fails, Biden, Pelosi, and the DNC will be blamed for not putting the nomination to a vote at the convention. Maybe they're saving that ticket for 2028. There is no combination on the right that'll beat that ticket. So obvious, yet they're screwing the pooch. -Lord |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:41pm On Aug 06 |
ObaIgwe1: Data has shown, the VP has little effect on winning a state. I had a negative feeling about Shapiro from what I saw of him during the campus demonstrations. Was open to supporting him even if it gave the Dems a small chance of winning Penn. But it seems everyone thought Waltz was a better pick. From an interview I watched, Pelosi did. It is said that Obama also did. So there is something there. I'm also sure they had polling that showed some problems. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 2:46pm On Aug 06 |
I saw this video yesterday and understood his appeal. https://x.com/mattwagenius/status/1820507813669396846/video/2
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by happney65: 2:49pm On Aug 06 |
ObaIgwe1: It's okay We wait and see |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 2:50pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos: Same thing I heard. I also understand that Harris would have preferred the chemistry between him and Shapiro, but she also don't wanna go into DNC with a divided house. Walz is the preferred choice of most senior democrats, and he is well loved by his fellow Dem Governors. Guy is smart too and a good communicator. started the "weird" thing. I wish them well. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 2:50pm On Aug 06 |
LordReed: Kamala Harris is Astroturfing There. You learned a new word. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:57pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: Skamala vs. Trump https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1820673675831476367?t=JVh80vnCAAjATHcWa3HB1A&s=19 She is weird |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:58pm On Aug 06 |
happney65:I agree but Walz is also very pro-Israel so in the end the far-left is in a lose lose situation. If Cori Bush loses tonight they will lament. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:04pm On Aug 06 |
ObaIgwe1: Right, but I heard, she had instant Chemistry with him as well. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:05pm On Aug 06 |
sanpipita:Nope the attack against Shapiro was because he is Jewish. Walz, Kelly and Beshear all share the same view on Israel as does Shapiro. I argue that Shapiro is even moderate because he called out Netanyahu and supports a two state solution. Walz took photos with Netanyahu, told the Pro-Palestine protesters to get lost in Minnesota, Kelly clapped and attended Bibi's address to Congress. Beshear is Pro-Israel. If those people truly cared about their cause they will oppose all four of them but you know what they are only targeting the Jew. It was never about Palestine but antisemitism. I am terminally online sometimes I read between the words in their opposition to Shapiro it was antisemitism. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:06pm On Aug 06 |
Watch this clip of Walz talking to Tapper. It's a good indicator of why Kamala chose him. Great communicator. Seems like a regular dude. He's a great communicator and he's also clearly smart. I'm impressed at how he parried the remark that he was a far left liberal. As in giving all kids free school lunches makes you a far left liberal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4atTGKL11o |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:08pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos:The protest in Israel just like many of us who oppose Netanyahu don't do so because of antisemitism. But the far-left does so. They don't criticise Israeli policies they hate everything Jewish about Israel that in itself is antisemitism. Israel being a Democracy and existing in the Middle East is America's interest not radical theocratic Islamic states like Iran having their way. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:11pm On Aug 06 |
IjeBos:The University student protesters are infact the KKK. There is nothing peaceful when protesting to cause inconvenience to people and destroying property. He was right. Also the article wasn't a lie at the time he wrote it the Palestinians rejected another two state solution deal. If October 7th didn't convince you that Shapiro was right I don't know what will. They attacked Israel first and are indeed too "battle minded" for peace. Shapiro didn't lie. Thank God that Walz is no different on this issue. So a lose-lose situation for leftists. Any young Dem who is Pro-Palestine over Israel needs to read a damn book and get of TikTok induced Islamic propaganda. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kkins25(m): 3:12pm On Aug 06 |
basilico: What would you call someone with an XXY chromosome or someone with an XO chromosome? Listen ogbeni, I also wouldn't want the likes of Caitlyn Jenner, participating in women's sports or beauty pageants and winning "Woman of the Year." But, you should recognize that, just because a woman has muscles, doesn't mean she's a man. Or, that a guy without muscles is a woman. If they are indeed XY, then they would have extra punching power compared to women of the same weight class. And, that would be unfair to the women. But, no confirmation had been made yet. Given the IOC is inclined to the left politically, I reckon no further investigations would be carried on. A crippled individual is given a separate class of sport because, obviously, you don't want a crippled competing with the likes of CR7. It's obvious, so obvious, I'm tempted to ask you if your head is an empty bas-ket. IjeBos:That antisemitic word is thrown out too much. I wonder if when you watch the news, your eardrums only pick vibrations that say "U.S. good, everybody Bad." Here's a snippet from good old Wiki: The United States of America was the first country to recognize the nascent State of Israel.[1] Since the 1960s, the American Israeli relationship has grown into a mutually beneficial alliance in economic, strategic and military aspects.[1] The United States has provided strong support for Israel. It has played a key role in the promotion of good relations between Israel and its neighbouring Arab states—notably Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt—while holding off hostility from countries such as Syria and Iran. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kkins25(m): 3:16pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: Imagine saying "Nigerians are too tribalistic" for them to govern themselves as an idiotic statement when the reality is that the statement is true. Any young Dem who is Pro-Palestine over Israel needs to read a damn book and get of TikTok-induced Islamic propaganda. hmmmm.. what about the "Genocide?" 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:17pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: You are assuming the intent of people who are protesting. Instead why don't you listen to why they say they are protesting. Some of the people protesting were Jewish. Our current support of Israel is no longer in the US best interest but we do it anyway. That is the reason the CIA, Pentagon and State Department employees were up in arms over what has been going on recently. They have a real fear of negative blowback. Does it look like what is going on in Israel is in even Israel's best interests? Sometime friends have to be able to tell friends they are fuxing up |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 3:17pm On Aug 06 |
AmazonTopaz: I think they all share similar position on Israel... It's just that Shapiro is a Jew and apart from some of his past comments that can be used against him in an election, Kamala is also married to another Jew. So you will have a Jew on Kamala's bed and another one beside him at work in the white house. I believe Kamala would have reached out to Shapiro and get his understanding. But I kinda also like the idea of sending Trump team back to square one. They have done a lot of research and were ready and prepare to attack Shapiro, thinking he would be picked... Now they are more shocked 2 Likes |
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